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FEMA Rendition Camps Czar

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May 24, 2013, 4:59:52 PM5/24/13
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The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?

boo



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Conservatives remind me of Yosemite Sam, Wile E. Coyote, and Elmer Fudd.
They bring the guns, the stupidity, and of course, the failure. SAVE
AMERICA!! Spay or neuter your Republican!!

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Wayne

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>The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
>camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?

Naaaahhhh......
Normal people want the Gitmo folks to get their just rewards, not just be
transferred to a federal penn.

The Campaigner in Chief promised to close it, but has been hit by the
realities of life. He's too much of a pussy to do the right thing.

deep

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May 24, 2013, 5:34:11 PM5/24/13
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On Fri, 24 May 2013 15:59:52 -0500, FEMA Rendition Camps Czar
<fea...@poo.com> wrote:

>
>The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
>camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
>
>boo
>
It's Republican obstructionism in order to be able to harass Obama.
Classic conservative case of creating a problem, then lying and
blaming it all on Democrats.

>

deep

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May 24, 2013, 5:51:12 PM5/24/13
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On Fri, 24 May 2013 14:28:37 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
wrote:
Why did Republicans vote unanimously to block the necessary funding
that Obama requested?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21detain.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

RD Sandman

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May 24, 2013, 6:02:22 PM5/24/13
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deep wrote in news:f3nvp817rrtjnsau4...@4ax.com:
It's like liberals blaming all the current problems on the Bush
administration when that isn't the truth. So, in that case, it is a
classic of both sides creting a problem, then lying and blaming it all on
Bush.

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Sleep well, tonight.....

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You can be young without money, but you
can't be old without it.

deep

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May 24, 2013, 6:19:17 PM5/24/13
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On Fri, 24 May 2013 17:02:22 -0500, RD Sandman
<rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:

>deep wrote in news:f3nvp817rrtjnsau4...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Fri, 24 May 2013 15:59:52 -0500, FEMA Rendition Camps Czar
>> <fea...@poo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
>>>camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
>>>
>>>boo
>>>
>> It's Republican obstructionism in order to be able to harass Obama.
>> Classic conservative case of creating a problem, then lying and
>> blaming it all on Democrats.
>>
>>>
>
>It's like liberals blaming all the current problems on the Bush
>administration when that isn't the truth. So, in that case, it is a
>classic of both sides creting a problem, then lying and blaming it all on
>Bush.

Difference is, Bush is responsible for much of what happened with the
economy and a massive impact on the deficit. Obama is NOT responsible
for Gitmo. He requested 80 million dollars to pay for moving all the
prisoners to state side prisons. Republicans voted unanimously to
block the funding. Now those same Republicans are blaming Obama for
not doing anything. That's an outright lie. I guess they are
counting on everyone having as bad a memory as do conservatives.

ABM - Anyone But a Mormon

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May 24, 2013, 6:21:25 PM5/24/13
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On 5/24/2013 5:02 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
>
>
> It's like liberals blaming all the current problems on the Bush
> administration when that isn't the truth.
>


So why did the drunk create a jail that only holds "accused"
camel jockeys -- Was he afraid to bring them to his
dude ranch as weekend help too ? The US already had military jails .

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The methodology of the Right has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

Scout

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May 24, 2013, 6:28:41 PM5/24/13
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"Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:knolqi$5jj$1...@dont-email.me...
>
>
> "FEMA Rendition Camps Czar" wrote in message
> news:519fd4c9$0$12783$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
>
>
>>The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
>>camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
>
> Naaaahhhh......
> Normal people want the Gitmo folks to get their just rewards, not just be
> transferred to a federal penn.

Hmm.. I suspect the later would result in the former.

Think about it.


Gunner Asch

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May 24, 2013, 7:02:40 PM5/24/13
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On Fri, 24 May 2013 15:59:52 -0500, FEMA Rendition Camps Czar
<fea...@poo.com> wrote:

>
>The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
>camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
>
>boo

Tell that to your Obamassiah..who promised to shut down Gitmo witin 6
weeks of winning the 1st presidential election..in 2008

Laugh laugh laugh !!!!!


>
>
>
>--
>
>
>
>Conservatives remind me of Yosemite Sam, Wile E. Coyote, and Elmer Fudd.
>They bring the guns, the stupidity, and of course, the failure. SAVE
>AMERICA!! Spay or neuter your Republican!!

--
"You guess the truth hurts?

Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
Raid® to a cockroach.
Sheriff Brody to a shark
Bush to a Liberal

The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
dick as a brake.

They HATE the truth."

Sancho Panza

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May 24, 2013, 7:10:27 PM5/24/13
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On 5/24/2013 6:19 PM, deep wrote:
> Obama is NOT responsible
> for Gitmo. He requested 80 million dollars to pay for moving all the
> prisoners to state side prisons. Republicans voted unanimously to
> block the funding. Now those same Republicans are blaming Obama for
> not doing anything. That's an outright lie. I guess they are
> counting on everyone having as bad a memory as do conservatives.

Let's see whether you or anyone else can even dream up an explanation
for why Obama has never even bothered to begin trials.


Frank

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May 24, 2013, 7:32:29 PM5/24/13
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Obama is waiting to bring them to the US where they will be tried and
freed on US soil ;)

FEMA Rendition Camps Czar

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May 24, 2013, 7:48:59 PM5/24/13
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On 5/24/2013 6:02 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Fri, 24 May 2013 15:59:52 -0500, FEMA Rendition Camps Czar
> <fea...@poo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
>> camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
>>
>> boo
>
> Tell that to your Obamassiah..who promised to shut down Gitmo witin 6
> weeks of winning the 1st presidential election..in 2008
>
>

He requested 80 million dollars to pay for moving all the
prisoners to state side prisons. Republicans voted unanimously to
block the funding. Now those same Republicans are blaming Obama for
not doing anything.




RD Sandman

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May 24, 2013, 8:11:29 PM5/24/13
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deep wrote in news:flpvp8l5kt0fnm06c...@4ax.com:

> On Fri, 24 May 2013 17:02:22 -0500, RD Sandman
> <rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>deep wrote in news:f3nvp817rrtjnsau4...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Fri, 24 May 2013 15:59:52 -0500, FEMA Rendition Camps Czar
>>> <fea...@poo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
>>>>camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
>>>>
>>>>boo
>>>>
>>> It's Republican obstructionism in order to be able to harass Obama.
>>> Classic conservative case of creating a problem, then lying and
>>> blaming it all on Democrats.
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>It's like liberals blaming all the current problems on the Bush
>>administration when that isn't the truth. So, in that case, it is a
>>classic of both sides creting a problem, then lying and blaming it all
>>on Bush.
>
> Difference is, Bush is responsible for much of what happened with the
> economy and a massive impact on the deficit.

So was deregulation which was done by both parties from 1980 to 1999.
Without that deregulation and Clinton's desire for 8 million new
homeowners and Bush's desire for 5.5 million more......

Obama is NOT responsible
> for Gitmo.

He hasn't closed it despite his promises dating back to when he was a
part-time Senator.

He requested 80 million dollars to pay for moving all the
> prisoners to state side prisons. Republicans voted unanimously to
> block the funding. Now those same Republicans are blaming Obama for
> not doing anything. That's an outright lie.

Yes, but most of it is from you. The real problem is housing them in
mainland prisons and the assumption in that case of constitutional
protections.

I guess they are
> counting on everyone having as bad a memory as do conservatives.

I can tell that you are.

RD Sandman

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May 24, 2013, 8:13:01 PM5/24/13
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ABM - Anyone But a Mormon <a...@loon.tard> wrote in news:519fe7e6$0$12764
$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net:

> On 5/24/2013 5:02 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
>>
>>
>> It's like liberals blaming all the current problems on the Bush
>> administration when that isn't the truth.
>>
>
>
> So why did the drunk create a jail that only holds "accused"
> camel jockeys -- Was he afraid to bring them to his
> dude ranch as weekend help too ? The US already had military jails .
>

Perhaps you should read about what occurs if those folks are held in US
jails and their efforts simply treated as crimes.

ABM - Anyone But a Mormon

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May 24, 2013, 8:29:17 PM5/24/13
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On 5/24/2013 7:13 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
> ABM - Anyone But a Mormon <a...@loon.tard> wrote in news:519fe7e6$0$12764
> $bbae...@news.suddenlink.net:
>
>> On 5/24/2013 5:02 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> It's like liberals blaming all the current problems on the Bush
>>> administration when that isn't the truth.
>>>
>>
>>
>> So why did the drunk create a jail that only holds "accused"
>> camel jockeys -- Was he afraid to bring them to his
>> dude ranch as weekend help too ? The US already had military jails .
>>
>
> Perhaps you should read about what occurs if those folks are held in US
> jails and their efforts simply treated as crimes.
>

If their "efforts" are what ? Specifically what will happen ? Give
us all the scarey, made up, what-if , gory details some ko0ok has
burned into your little victimized brain. Will they sleep in a boy-
scout tent and have hours of boy anal sex ? WHAT WILL HAPPEN ?

Prove they did something. Convict them or return them to their caves.

How many Nazis did the Allies release back to Germany ? That must have
been a horrific ordeal too - and funny the Earth is still turning after
75 years.

Sancho Panza

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May 24, 2013, 8:31:01 PM5/24/13
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Why hasn't the president started their trials?

Wayne

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May 24, 2013, 8:41:57 PM5/24/13
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"deep" wrote in message news:35ovp8des93c6dl9f...@4ax.com...

On Fri, 24 May 2013 14:28:37 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
wrote:

>
>
>"FEMA Rendition Camps Czar" wrote in message
>news:519fd4c9$0$12783$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
>
>
>>The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
>>camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
>
>Naaaahhhh......
>Normal people want the Gitmo folks to get their just rewards, not just be
>transferred to a federal penn.
>
>The Campaigner in Chief promised to close it, but has been hit by the
>realities of life. He's too much of a pussy to do the right thing.

# Why did Republicans vote unanimously to block the necessary funding
# that Obama requested?

#
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21detain.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Because somebody has to stop him from dancing off into the weeds without a
clue.

deep

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May 24, 2013, 9:14:26 PM5/24/13
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On Fri, 24 May 2013 17:41:57 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
wrote:
You said he was "too much of a pussy to do the right thing" and yet he
did try to do the right thing and Republicans wouldn't let him. So
you lied. Now Republicans are lying about Obama. So who is it who
can't do the right thing?

Gotcha...

Wayne

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May 24, 2013, 9:18:19 PM5/24/13
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"deep" wrote in message news:iu30q85qrghiei4bj...@4ax.com...

On Fri, 24 May 2013 17:41:57 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
wrote:

>
>
>"deep" wrote in message news:35ovp8des93c6dl9f...@4ax.com...
>
>On Fri, 24 May 2013 14:28:37 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"FEMA Rendition Camps Czar" wrote in message
>>news:519fd4c9$0$12783$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
>>
>>
>>>The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
>>>camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
>>
>>Naaaahhhh......
>>Normal people want the Gitmo folks to get their just rewards, not just be
>>transferred to a federal penn.
>>
>>The Campaigner in Chief promised to close it, but has been hit by the
>>realities of life. He's too much of a pussy to do the right thing.
>
># Why did Republicans vote unanimously to block the necessary funding
># that Obama requested?
>
>#
>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21detain.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
>
>Because somebody has to stop him from dancing off into the weeds without a
>clue.

# You said he was "too much of a pussy to do the right thing" and yet he
# did try to do the right thing and Republicans wouldn't let him. So
# you lied. Now Republicans are lying about Obama. So who is it who
# can't do the right thing?

The right thing: keep Gitmo open. The alternatives have too many
ramifications.
And of course, the link you provided was from 2009. Obama had plenty of
time since then to get his act together.

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Gunner Asch

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May 24, 2013, 9:30:15 PM5/24/13
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On Fri, 24 May 2013 18:48:59 -0500, FEMA Rendition Camps Czar
<fea...@poo.com> wrote:

>On 5/24/2013 6:02 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 May 2013 15:59:52 -0500, FEMA Rendition Camps Czar
>> <fea...@poo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
>>> camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
>>>
>>> boo
>>
>> Tell that to your Obamassiah..who promised to shut down Gitmo witin 6
>> weeks of winning the 1st presidential election..in 2008
>>
>>
>
>He requested 80 million dollars to pay for moving all the
>prisoners to state side prisons. Republicans voted unanimously to
>block the funding. Now those same Republicans are blaming Obama for
>not doing anything.


What..he was going to buy a whole new airplane to load the ragheads on
and then scrap it when they were done with it??
Really?

And you voted for that dunce?????


--
"You guess the truth hurts?

Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
RaidŽ to a cockroach.

Harold Burton

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May 24, 2013, 9:43:06 PM5/24/13
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In article <519fd4c9$0$12783$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
FEMA Rendition Camps Czar <fea...@poo.com> wrote:

> The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
> camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?


Not according to the Current Resident. Why else didn't he move them
when he controlled both houses of Congress and had a super majority in
the Senate.


Just askin'


snicker

Harold Burton

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May 24, 2013, 9:45:46 PM5/24/13
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In article <20130524211752.568$5...@newsreader.com>,
dzwe...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> A lot of them "confessed" under torture. That's not admissable evidence in
> a US court.

Harold Burton

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May 24, 2013, 9:45:05 PM5/24/13
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In article <519ffc6c$0$12779$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
FEMA Rendition Camps Czar <fea...@poo.com> wrote:

> On 5/24/2013 6:02 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> > On Fri, 24 May 2013 15:59:52 -0500, FEMA Rendition Camps Czar
> > <fea...@poo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
> >> camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
> >>
> >> boo
> >
> > Tell that to your Obamassiah..who promised to shut down Gitmo witin 6
> > weeks of winning the 1st presidential election..in 2008
> >
> >
>
> He requested 80 million dollars to pay for moving all the
> prisoners to state side prisons. Republicans voted unanimously to
> block the funding.


Was that when the Democrats controlled both houses of Congress and had a
super majority in the Senate?





> Now those same Republicans are blaming Obama for
> not doing anything.


Becauese he didn't, he had the opportunity and did NOTHING!


laugh . . . laugh . . . laugh

Harold Burton

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May 24, 2013, 9:46:55 PM5/24/13
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In article <35ovp8des93c6dl9f...@4ax.com>, deep wrote:

> On Fri, 24 May 2013 14:28:37 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"FEMA Rendition Camps Czar" wrote in message
> >news:519fd4c9$0$12783$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
> >
> >
> >>The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
> >>camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
> >
> >Naaaahhhh......
> >Normal people want the Gitmo folks to get their just rewards, not just be
> >transferred to a federal penn.
> >
> >The Campaigner in Chief promised to close it, but has been hit by the
> >realities of life. He's too much of a pussy to do the right thing.
>
> Why did Republicans vote unanimously to block the necessary funding
> that Obama requested?


Why didn't Obama act when his party controlled both houses of Congress
and had a super majority in the Senate?


Just askin'


snicker

Harold Burton

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May 24, 2013, 9:48:29 PM5/24/13
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In article <f3nvp817rrtjnsau4...@4ax.com>, deep wrote:

> On Fri, 24 May 2013 15:59:52 -0500, FEMA Rendition Camps Czar
> <fea...@poo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
> >camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
> >
> >boo
> >
> It's Republican obstructionism . . .


Really, so the Obama crime regime never controlled both houses of
Congress and also had a super majority in the Senate.



Who knew?

Harold Burton

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May 24, 2013, 9:49:52 PM5/24/13
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In article <XnsA1CA990B4...@216.196.121.131>,
RD Sandman <rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:

> deep wrote in news:f3nvp817rrtjnsau4...@4ax.com:
>
> > On Fri, 24 May 2013 15:59:52 -0500, FEMA Rendition Camps Czar
> > <fea...@poo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
> >>camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
> >>
> >>boo
> >>
> > It's Republican obstructionism in order to be able to harass Obama.
> > Classic conservative case of creating a problem, then lying and
> > blaming it all on Democrats.
> >
> >>
>
> It's like liberals blaming all the current problems on the Bush
> administration . . .


Don't be a piker, they blame it all the way back to Reagan, a few
creative ones even take it all the way back to Eisenhower. :-)

Harold Burton

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May 24, 2013, 9:51:51 PM5/24/13
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In article <519fe7e6$0$12764$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
ABM - Anyone But a Mormon <a...@loon.tard> wrote:

> On 5/24/2013 5:02 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
> >
> >
> > It's like liberals blaming all the current problems on the Bush
> > administration when that isn't the truth.
> >
>
>
> So why did the drunk create a jail that only holds "accused"
> camel jockeys --

Same reason the pot smoker kept that jail when his party controlled both
houses of Congress and had a super majority in the Senate and could do
pretty much anything he wanted.


I'll be you're glad you asked.

Harold Burton

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May 24, 2013, 9:53:51 PM5/24/13
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In article <51a005df$0$12754$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
ABM - Anyone But a Mormon <a...@loon.tard> wrote:

> On 5/24/2013 7:13 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
> > ABM - Anyone But a Mormon <a...@loon.tard> wrote in news:519fe7e6$0$12764
> > $bbae...@news.suddenlink.net:
> >
> >> On 5/24/2013 5:02 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It's like liberals blaming all the current problems on the Bush
> >>> administration when that isn't the truth.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> So why did the drunk create a jail that only holds "accused"
> >> camel jockeys -- Was he afraid to bring them to his
> >> dude ranch as weekend help too ? The US already had military jails .
> >>
> >
> > Perhaps you should read about what occurs if those folks are held in US
> > jails and their efforts simply treated as crimes.
> >
>
> If their "efforts" are what ? Specifically what will happen ?

Ask Obama, he had the chance to bring them here. His party once
controlled both houses of Congress and had a super majority in the
Senate, there was no one to stop him. Why didn't the Community Organizer
do anything?


snicker

Harold Burton

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May 24, 2013, 9:55:43 PM5/24/13
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In article <flpvp8l5kt0fnm06c...@4ax.com>, deep wrote:

> On Fri, 24 May 2013 17:02:22 -0500, RD Sandman
> <rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >deep wrote in news:f3nvp817rrtjnsau4...@4ax.com:
> >
> >> On Fri, 24 May 2013 15:59:52 -0500, FEMA Rendition Camps Czar
> >> <fea...@poo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
> >>>camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
> >>>
> >>>boo
> >>>
> >> It's Republican obstructionism in order to be able to harass Obama.
> >> Classic conservative case of creating a problem, then lying and
> >> blaming it all on Democrats.
> >>
> >>>
> >
> >It's like liberals blaming all the current problems on the Bush
> >administration when that isn't the truth. So, in that case, it is a
> >classic of both sides creting a problem, then lying and blaming it all on
> >Bush.
>
> Difference is, Bush is responsible for much of what happened with the
> economy and a massive impact on the deficit. Obama is NOT responsible
> for Gitmo.

He is now. He promised to close it, he had the opportunity when his
party controlled both houses of Congress and had a super majority in the
Senate, but he chose not to, too late to blame Bush, not that idiot
leftards won't stop trying.


snicker

Harold Burton

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May 24, 2013, 9:58:07 PM5/24/13
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In article <519ff369$0$25622$607e...@cv.net>,
Sancho Panza <otter...@xhotmail.com> wrote:

> On 5/24/2013 6:19 PM, deep wrote:
> > Obama is NOT responsible
> > for Gitmo. He requested 80 million dollars to pay for moving all the
> > prisoners to state side prisons. Republicans voted unanimously to
> > block the funding. Now those same Republicans are blaming Obama for
> > not doing anything. That's an outright lie. I guess they are
> > counting on everyone having as bad a memory as do conservatives.


His party controlled both houses of Congress and had a super majority in
the Senate. He could have closed Gitmo easily, but for some reason
chose not to and is now blaming Republicans for his failure.


> Let's see whether you or anyone else can even dream up an explanation
> for why Obama has never even bothered to begin trials.

Stupidity?


snicker

Harold Burton

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May 24, 2013, 10:03:08 PM5/24/13
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In article <20130524213003.433$8...@newsreader.com>,
dzwe...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> He can't be a powerful force for evil, and a weakling, at the same time.


Why not?


snicker
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Sancho Panza

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On 5/24/2013 9:17 PM, Denny wrote:
> Sancho Panza <otter...@xhotmail.com> wrote:
> A lot of them "confessed" under torture. That's not admissable evidence in
> a US court.
>
How many is "a lot"?

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Scout

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"FEMA Rendition Camps Czar" <fea...@poo.com> wrote in message
news:519ffc6c$0$12779$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
Cite.

Seems to me one military transport would be all that would be necessary and
would cost less than $50,000 for the trip.



Klaus Schadenfreude

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May 25, 2013, 11:08:02 AM5/25/13
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Hay how about Congress actually "declare's war" on Al Queda? Then
they're all POW's?

Scout

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May 25, 2013, 11:27:14 AM5/25/13
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"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Heck, if we're going to have a War on Terror...then let's do so.

Officially declare War on Terrorism
Compile a list of all know terrorists, leaders, trainings, aids, supporters,
etc.
Publish this list and give all a chance to contest their inclusion.
After that, they simply start dropping dead.
Hit by a car crossing a street in Berlin
Poison in a man's Breakfast in Iraq.
Bombing mission against a training camp in the Africa desert.
Head shot in Libya.



Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E

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May 25, 2013, 12:00:28 PM5/25/13
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On May 24, 10:10 pm, dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <519fe7e6$0$12764$bbae4...@news.suddenlink.net>,
> Best call it a night Harold. Git em again tomorrow.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Why Denny?? Your bong need a refill? You can't keep up with Burton?
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Klaus Schadenfreude

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May 25, 2013, 1:41:18 PM5/25/13
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Well, I was thinking GBU-28's and GBU-43/B's. Word would soon get
around that it was really unhealthy to be anywhere around a terrorist.

RD Sandman

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May 25, 2013, 3:58:30 PM5/25/13
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ABM - Anyone But a Mormon <a...@loon.tard> wrote in news:51a005df$0$12754
$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net:

> On 5/24/2013 7:13 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
>> ABM - Anyone But a Mormon <a...@loon.tard> wrote in news:519fe7e6$0
$12764
>> $bbae...@news.suddenlink.net:
>>
>>> On 5/24/2013 5:02 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's like liberals blaming all the current problems on the Bush
>>>> administration when that isn't the truth.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So why did the drunk create a jail that only holds "accused"
>>> camel jockeys -- Was he afraid to bring them to his
>>> dude ranch as weekend help too ? The US already had military jails .
>>>
>>
>> Perhaps you should read about what occurs if those folks are held in
US
>> jails and their efforts simply treated as crimes.
>>
>
> If their "efforts" are what ? Specifically what will happen ? Give
> us all the scarey, made up, what-if , gory details some ko0ok has
> burned into your little victimized brain. Will they sleep in a boy-
> scout tent and have hours of boy anal sex ? WHAT WILL HAPPEN ?
>
> Prove they did something. Convict them or return them to their caves.
>
> How many Nazis did the Allies release back to Germany ? That must have
> been a horrific ordeal too - and funny the Earth is still turning after
> 75 years.

Reading your post above only shows that trying to discuss something with
you would be a complete waste of time.


--
Sleep well, tonight.....

RD (The Sandman

You can be young without money, but you
can't be old without it.

RD Sandman

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May 25, 2013, 4:02:44 PM5/25/13
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deep wrote in news:iu30q85qrghiei4bj...@4ax.com:

> On Fri, 24 May 2013 17:41:57 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"deep" wrote in message
>>news:35ovp8des93c6dl9f...@4ax.com...
>>
>>On Fri, 24 May 2013 14:28:37 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"FEMA Rendition Camps Czar" wrote in message
>>>news:519fd4c9$0$12783$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
>>>>camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
>>>
>>>Naaaahhhh......
>>>Normal people want the Gitmo folks to get their just rewards, not
>>>just be transferred to a federal penn.
>>>
>>>The Campaigner in Chief promised to close it, but has been hit by the
>>>realities of life. He's too much of a pussy to do the right thing.
>>
>># Why did Republicans vote unanimously to block the necessary funding
>># that Obama requested?
>>
>>#
>>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21detain.html?pagewanted=
>>all&_r=0
>>
>>Because somebody has to stop him from dancing off into the weeds
>>without a clue.
>
> You said he was "too much of a pussy to do the right thing" and yet he
> did try to do the right thing and Republicans wouldn't let him. So
> you lied. Now Republicans are lying about Obama. So who is it who
> can't do the right thing?
>
> Gotcha...
>

Hey, Dudu, for your reading enjoyment:

The six Democrats who voted against the measure include some of their
party’s most prominent voices on military affairs and criminal justice
issues. Among them were Senators Carl Levin of Michigan, the chairman of
the Armed Services Committee; Jack Reed of Rhode Island, a West Point
graduate and former Army Ranger, and Patrick Leahy of Vermont, the
chairman of the Judiciary Committee.

Senators Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, the majority whip; Tom Harkin of
Iowa and Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island were the others voting
against the measure.

The vote was on an amendment to a $91.3 billion military spending bill
that will finance the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as some other
national security programs, including preparations for pandemic flu,
through Sept. 30.

The abrupt decision by Senate Democratic leaders to strip out the money
for closing the Guantánamo detention center amounted to a strong rebuke
of the Obama White House, which lawmakers in both parties have criticized
for not providing a more detailed plan for what will be done with the 240
detainees currently held in the prison.

From the cite above.

RD Sandman

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May 25, 2013, 4:04:02 PM5/25/13
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Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in news:hal.i.burton-
9FB4F7.214...@unknown-98-136-209-x.yahoo.com:
Yes, but most of them can't think any further than Bush.

RD Sandman

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May 25, 2013, 4:05:52 PM5/25/13
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"Scout" <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
news:knqjf0$9pa$1...@dont-email.me:
This is from the NY Time cite that was produced up the thread:

The six Democrats who voted against the measure include some of their
party’s most prominent voices on military affairs and criminal justice
issues. Among them were Senators Carl Levin of Michigan, the chairman of
the Armed Services Committee; Jack Reed of Rhode Island, a West Point
graduate and former Army Ranger, and Patrick Leahy of Vermont, the
chairman of the Judiciary Committee.

Senators Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, the majority whip; Tom Harkin of
Iowa and Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island were the others voting
against the measure.

The vote was on an amendment to a $91.3 billion military spending bill
that will finance the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as some other
national security programs, including preparations for pandemic flu,
through Sept. 30.

The abrupt decision by Senate Democratic leaders to strip out the money
for closing the Guantánamo detention center amounted to a strong rebuke
of the Obama White House, which lawmakers in both parties have criticized
for not providing a more detailed plan for what will be done with the 240
detainees currently held in the prison.

pyotr filipivich

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May 25, 2013, 5:32:57 PM5/25/13
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"Scout" <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> on Sat, 25 May
2013 11:00:33 -0400 typed in misc.survivalism the following:
><fea...@poo.com> wrote:.
>> On 5/24/2013 6:02 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> On Fri, 24 May 2013 15:59:52 -0500, fea...@poo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
>>>> camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
>>>>
>>>> boo
>>>
>>> Tell that to your Obamassiah..who promised to shut down Gitmo witin 6
>>> weeks of winning the 1st presidential election..in 2008
>>>
>> He requested 80 million dollars to pay for moving all the
>> prisoners to state side prisons. Republicans voted unanimously to
>> block the funding. Now those same Republicans are blaming Obama for
>> not doing anything.
>
>Cite.
>
>Seems to me one military transport would be all that would be necessary and
>would cost less than $50,000 for the trip.

And where does one put someone who neither convicted nor charged
with a criminal offense?

Despite the declaration of Peace by Obama and the Democrats, the
fact remains, that as long as we are not Dar Al-Islam, the war goes
on. As it has since the time of the Prophet. So, where des one keep
enemy combatants? Especially those who would keep no parole if it
were offered?
Just because fearme.poo is just another idiot racists, doesn't
mean he should be setting policy.



--
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.

pyotr filipivich

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Klaus Schadenfreude <klausscha...@yahoo.com> on Sat, 25 May 2013
08:08:02 -0700 typed in misc.survivalism the following:
For the Democrats recognize that they are already at war, would
cause their heads to implode. Because they cannot grasp that the
Islamists mean what they say, when they say their goal is a world
caliphate, and sharia is the law - everywhere. And that the Mullahs
mean it when they say there is the House of Islam, and the House of
War - and that the West is that house of war.

Scout

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May 25, 2013, 5:36:54 PM5/25/13
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"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dpt1q81p9d24jm8la...@4ax.com...
Na, we want to avoid any unreasonable collateral damage if possible. Most
should be pin point attacks against the specific individuals when possible.
When it's like a terrorist training camp, meeting house, etc....then if
you're not involved with terrorists, then what are you doing there?

And I think once people start getting checked off of the list in
mass.....the message will get out that we mean business and being a
terrorist or involved in any way with terrorism just buys you a very short
life span.

The ONLY exception would be if you had critical information on a much higher
priority target....then you might earn a stay of execution, which exists
only so long as you remain uninvolved with any known terrorists or
supporters and immediately report them should they attempt contact or you
spot any.

In short, we'll let you live if you've got good intel and if you immediately
inform us of any other targets you come across. Otherwise, you're not even
warned.


Scout

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May 25, 2013, 5:43:32 PM5/25/13
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"pyotr filipivich" <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:ira2q8lovojnqv4cn...@4ax.com...
> "Scout" <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> on Sat, 25 May
> 2013 11:00:33 -0400 typed in misc.survivalism the following:
>><fea...@poo.com> wrote:.
>>> On 5/24/2013 6:02 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 24 May 2013 15:59:52 -0500, fea...@poo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
>>>>> camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
>>>>>
>>>>> boo
>>>>
>>>> Tell that to your Obamassiah..who promised to shut down Gitmo witin 6
>>>> weeks of winning the 1st presidential election..in 2008
>>>>
>>> He requested 80 million dollars to pay for moving all the
>>> prisoners to state side prisons. Republicans voted unanimously to
>>> block the funding. Now those same Republicans are blaming Obama for
>>> not doing anything.
>>
>>Cite.
>>
>>Seems to me one military transport would be all that would be necessary
>>and
>>would cost less than $50,000 for the trip.
>
> And where does one put someone who neither convicted nor charged
> with a criminal offense?

We could always drop them off with no clothing but their jockey shorts at
one of the old Cold war installations along Alaska's North coast in the
fall, and if we can't come up with anything better by spring, they are free
to try and walk out.


Gunner Asch

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May 25, 2013, 5:49:07 PM5/25/13
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How about 15 miles off shore and at the bottom? They are not..not by
the Rules of War.."enemy combatants". They by the rules of war are
"terrorists" and as such..may be executed. Let em stay with bin
Ladin.


--
"You guess the truth hurts?

Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
Raid� to a cockroach.
Sheriff Brody to a shark
Bush to a Liberal

The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
dick as a brake.

They HATE the truth."

Sancho Panza

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May 25, 2013, 7:40:39 PM5/25/13
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> more than 10 and less than a thousand.
>
Cite? After all, all the hoooha over waterboarding amounted to three
subjects selected from the worst of the worst.

pyotr filipivich

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May 26, 2013, 3:36:08 AM5/26/13
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Klaus Schadenfreude <klausscha...@yahoo.com> on Sat, 25 May 2013
10:41:18 -0700 typed in misc.survivalism the following:
Ah yes - from Steven Coonts: "Secretary of Terror"



Can't find it, but heres "Dispatches from a Real War on Terror"

<http://www.johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/Spoofs/realwaronterror.html>


Ah, here we go ...



“Conventional military responses have also proven futile. Smashing
third world governments because they tolerate or refuse to combat
terrorists hasn’t solved anything. In fact, it makes the clerics
stronger because they no longer have to compete for power with secular
authorities. The people are left to choose between the mosques or
anarchy. Clearly, we must go in other directions.”



“Oh, no!” Senator Franklin roared. “Oh, no. A few fanatics carry out
murderous criminal attacks, but the vast majority of the people in the
Arab world have not raised a hand against us.”

“I beg to differ. They harbor the clerics who preach this poison. They
pay for terrorism, they provide the jihad soldiers, they cheer the
atrocities in the streets and in the mosques. They are not our
friends, senator, nor are they neutral. They are our enemies and we
will not win this war until we recognize and act on that fact.”

<http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1645977/posts>


There are myriads of proverbs and "wise sayings" about how some
times "the only way is through."
--
pyotr filipivich
"What if they gave a war and nobody came?
Why then, the war would come to you."
Bertolt Brecht 1898-1956

pyotr filipivich

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May 27, 2013, 1:03:25 AM5/27/13
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Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> on Sat, 25 May 2013 14:49:07 -0700
I'd say "Send them home - wrapped in a pigskin and stuffed in the
nose cone of a Pershing II." if'n I weren't such a considerate person.
--
pyotr filipivich
"When the smoke clears, it just means he's reloading"
tagline for Desperado.

Gunner Asch

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May 27, 2013, 1:40:04 AM5/27/13
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On Sun, 26 May 2013 22:03:25 -0700, pyotr filipivich
I LIKE IT!!!!!

Got my vote!! MMIRV...Multiple Muslim Inbound Reentry Vehicle!!

Gray Guest

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May 27, 2013, 4:07:25 PM5/27/13
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FEMA Rendition Camps Czar <fea...@poo.com> wrote in news:519fd4c9$0$12783
$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net:

>
> The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
> camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
>
> boo
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Conservatives remind me of Yosemite Sam, Wile E. Coyote, and Elmer Fudd.
> They bring the guns, the stupidity, and of course, the failure. SAVE
> AMERICA!! Spay or neuter your Republican!!
>

Because it's a Democrat President and now it's not an issue.

--
Refusenik #1

Libs suffer from Eleutherophobia. And there is no cure.

Obama called the SEALs and THEY got bin Laden. When the SEALs called Obama,
THEY GOT DENIED. Fuck Obama

David Johnston

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Jun 3, 2013, 2:37:07 PM6/3/13
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And that includes the ones who didn't do anything!

Gunner Asch

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Jun 3, 2013, 2:59:29 PM6/3/13
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On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 12:37:07 -0600, David Johnston <Da...@block.net>
wrote:
Does it? Or is that the belief of Obama and Co? Like Tea Party
members?

David Johnston

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Jun 3, 2013, 3:53:27 PM6/3/13
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Exactly. Before you advocate execution without a trial, you may want to
stop and think about whether or not you might be on the wrong end of it.



Gunner Asch

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Jun 3, 2013, 4:18:34 PM6/3/13
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On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 13:53:27 -0600, David Johnston <Da...@block.net>
Execution? Ive never advocated executing a human being. In fact..Im
largely against capital punishment along with abortion.

Oh..you think that my observations about the coming Great Cull is
advocationg the death of every Leftwinger in America?

What gives you the bleeve that Im advocating it? So news reporters
"advocate" the murders, robberies, etc etc that they report on? Is
that your claim? That the MSM is advocating all those heinious
crimes???????

As for being on the wrong end..Molon Labe!

David Johnston

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Jun 3, 2013, 4:39:34 PM6/3/13
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Your statement right above recommending that alleged enemy combatants
should be disposed of into the ocean.


Gunner Asch

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Jun 3, 2013, 6:21:28 PM6/3/13
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On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 14:39:34 -0600, David Johnston <Da...@block.net>
Which recommendation? Please provide cites and tables and data to
support your claim. I will indeed be waiting.

Cough em out fucktard. Else we will simply laugh at your every
statement from this time forward

Gunner

David Johnston

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Jun 3, 2013, 6:31:50 PM6/3/13
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This one:

Harold Burton

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Jun 3, 2013, 10:19:50 PM6/3/13
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In article <519fd4c9$0$12783$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
FEMA Rendition Camps Czar <fea...@poo.com> wrote:

> The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
> camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?


Ask the Current Resident, he's the one in charge. He had the ability to
close Gitmo but chose not to.


snicker

Harold Burton

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Jun 3, 2013, 10:22:18 PM6/3/13
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In article <519ffc6c$0$12779$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
FEMA Rendition Camps Czar <fea...@poo.com> wrote:

> On 5/24/2013 6:02 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> > On Fri, 24 May 2013 15:59:52 -0500, FEMA Rendition Camps Czar
> > <fea...@poo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
> >> camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
> >>
> >> boo
> >
> > Tell that to your Obamassiah..who promised to shut down Gitmo witin 6
> > weeks of winning the 1st presidential election..in 2008
> >
> >
>
> He requested 80 million dollars to pay for moving all the
> prisoners to state side prisons. Republicans voted unanimously to
> block the funding. Now those same Republicans are blaming Obama for
> not doing anything.

Was that in 2008-2010 when the DemocRATs controlled both houses of
Congress and even had a supermajority in the Senate. Explain how
Republicans could have prevented the shut down of Gitmo then.


snicker

deep

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Jun 3, 2013, 10:46:57 PM6/3/13
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No he didn't you lying ass. He had the funding added to military
appropriations bill and Republicans blocked it. He tried, and
Republicans wouldn't let him, now they are blaming him for not doing
it.

Typical conservatives lies.

>
>
>snicker

Sancho Panza

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Jun 3, 2013, 11:07:44 PM6/3/13
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In which Congress, Mr. Candy Bar?

deep

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Jun 3, 2013, 11:15:00 PM6/3/13
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Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E

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Jun 3, 2013, 11:18:07 PM6/3/13
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On Jun 3, 9:46 pm, deep wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 22:19:50 -0400, Harold Burton
>
> <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >In article <519fd4c9$0$12783$bbae4...@news.suddenlink.net>,
> > FEMA Rendition Camps Czar <fea...@poo.com> wrote:
>
> >> The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
> >> camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
>
> >Ask the Current Resident, he's the one in charge.  He had the ability to
> >close Gitmo but chose not to.
>
> No he didn't you lying ass.  He had the funding added to military
> appropriations bill and Republicans blocked it.  He tried, and
> Republicans wouldn't let him, now they are blaming him for not doing
> it.
>
> Typical conservatives lies.
>
>
>
>
>
> >snicker- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

So when has Obama ever let Congress get in the way of passing
something he REALLY wanted, like Obamacare for example?

Sancho Panza

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Jun 3, 2013, 11:30:47 PM6/3/13
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Your cite says only that it was proposed in the House. You say the
"Republicans blocked it." The vote is scheduled for Wednesday. Maybe you
are just so prescient, but you're certainly no damned good with tenses.

"By RICHARD LARDNER and DONNA CASSATA
Associated Press
WASHINGTON -- Rebuffing President Barack Obama's latest plea, House
Republicans on Monday proposed keeping open the military-run prison at
Guant�namo Bay, Cuba, by barring the administration from transferring
its terror suspects to the United States or a foreign country such as
Yemen."

Now for the $64,000 question. What action is the Senate taking on
Guantanamo?


Gunner Asch

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Jun 3, 2013, 11:37:03 PM6/3/13
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On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 16:31:50 -0600, David Johnston <Da...@block.net>
A QUESTION is a recommendation? Oh you poor stupid utterly lame dumb
shit! Is that the Best you can do?

Kill yourself now and save 2 generations of your family members shame.

Gunner Asch

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Jun 3, 2013, 11:38:06 PM6/3/13
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Actually,..that was 2007-2010. 3 FULL YEARS

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Jun 4, 2013, 7:08:42 AM6/4/13
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Obama issued an executive order to close Guantanamo's prisons at the
beginning of his first term, but the effort was stymied by legislative
restrictions and inaction by the executive branch.

"and inaction by the executive branch. "

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/30/obama-gitmo_n_3185718.html

Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E

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Jun 4, 2013, 7:21:55 AM6/4/13
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On Jun 3, 2:53 pm, David Johnston <Da...@block.net> wrote:
> On 6/3/2013 12:59 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 12:37:07 -0600, David Johnston <Da...@block.net>
> > wrote:
>
> >> On 5/25/2013 3:49 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 25 May 2013 14:32:57 -0700, pyotr filipivich
> >>> <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> "Scout" <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> on Sat, 25 May
> stop and think about whether or not you might be on the wrong end of it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Kinda' like those Americans Obama murdered with drones or leaving 4
Americans to be slaughtered in Benghazi ?

RD Sandman

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Jun 4, 2013, 1:34:36 PM6/4/13
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Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:j7oqq8p7qnnkd11hr...@4ax.com:

> On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 22:22:18 -0400, Harold Burton
> <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <519ffc6c$0$12779$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
>> FEMA Rendition Camps Czar <fea...@poo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/24/2013 6:02 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> > On Fri, 24 May 2013 15:59:52 -0500, FEMA Rendition Camps Czar
>>> > <fea...@poo.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused
"
>>> >> camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
>>> >>
>>> >> boo
>>> >
>>> > Tell that to your Obamassiah..who promised to shut down Gitmo witin
6
>>> > weeks of winning the 1st presidential election..in 2008
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> He requested 80 million dollars to pay for moving all the
>>> prisoners to state side prisons. Republicans voted unanimously to
>>> block the funding. Now those same Republicans are blaming Obama for
>>> not doing anything.
>>
>>Was that in 2008-2010 when the DemocRATs controlled both houses of
>>Congress and even had a supermajority in the Senate. Explain how
>>Republicans could have prevented the shut down of Gitmo then.
>>
>>
>>snicker
>
>
> Actually,..that was 2007-2010. 3 FULL YEARS


Actually, that was FOUR full years. From the 2006 election to the 2010
election. Well, actually from January 2007 to January 2011 that they
held both houses of Congress. Then for two of those years, they also had
the presidency.

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You can be young without money, but you
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RD Sandman

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deep wrote in news:d6lqq8lcldj4ia21b...@4ax.com:
Hey, asshole. He had both Houses of Congress and the Presidency for two
years. He didn't do it then and he hasn't done it now.

Typical liberal oversight.

RD Sandman

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Jun 4, 2013, 2:00:41 PM6/4/13
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deep wrote in news:4smqq8p4qta24ntd7...@4ax.com:
That was this year, dipstick. What happened the other years he was in
office including January, 2009 to January, 2011 when he had control of
both houses of Congress? After all, he promised he would do just that in
his campaign in 2008.

RD Sandman

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Jun 4, 2013, 2:01:30 PM6/4/13
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"Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burto...@gmail.com>
wrote in news:cb5f6225-34d3-474c-80a0-83284a4ef986
@j8g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
Obamacare was passed when he had both houses.

David Johnston

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Jun 4, 2013, 2:43:38 PM6/4/13
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That one is. Asking "How about we kill them?" does not have a different
meaning from "We should kill them". Requests lies ", advice,
recommendations, and insults can all be phrased as questions. Now can
you go fuck yourself?

David Johnston

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Jun 4, 2013, 3:50:52 PM6/4/13
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It's not murder when it's legal.


or leaving 4
> Americans to be slaughtered in Benghazi ?

No, there's no connection there.

>

Jeff M

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Jun 4, 2013, 4:56:16 PM6/4/13
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Congress has steadily opposed the closure of the prison at Gitmo.
Repeated efforts by Obama to close the prison have been thwarted by
bipartisan opposition in Congress. I suppose no Congress member wants
to get the Willie Horton treatment from campaign opponents, if something
should thereafter go wrong, such a a former detainee engaging in a
terrorist attack.

The simple-minded who view the President as an all-powerful father
figure who can do whatever he wants, and are clueless who don't
understand how Congress and our legal system actually work, along with
the usual disingenuous partisans, will try to fix the blame on Obama
exclusively. But his is incorrect and contrary to known facts.

Of course, with wearisome and familiar partisan hypocrisy, regressives
who fully embraced Bush's dubious actions in the "War on Terror,"
including the use of torture, and specifically including using
Guantanamo as an extra-territorial prison, now want to castigate Obama
for failing to correct Bush's wrongheaded decision to open the prison in
the first place. To do so, they must ignore the facts, the law, and the
steadfast opposition of Congress, among other factors, to justify their
false and entirely partisan criticism. Fortunately for them, at least,
such dishonesty and hypocrisy presents no impediment to them, so long as
their purpose is to "get" Obama.

Jeff M

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Jun 4, 2013, 4:57:50 PM6/4/13
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On 6/4/2013 12:57 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
> deep wrote in news:d6lqq8lcldj4ia21b...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 22:19:50 -0400, Harold Burton
>> <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <519fd4c9$0$12783$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
>>> FEMA Rendition Camps Czar <fea...@poo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
>>>> camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Ask the Current Resident, he's the one in charge. He had the ability
> to
>>> close Gitmo but chose not to.
>>
>> No he didn't you lying ass. He had the funding added to military
>> appropriations bill and Republicans blocked it. He tried, and
>> Republicans wouldn't let him, now they are blaming him for not doing
>> it.
>
> Hey, asshole. He had both Houses of Congress and the Presidency for two
> years. He didn't do it then and he hasn't done it now.
>
> Typical liberal oversight.

Typical regressive simple-minded ignorance.

"On 22nd January 2009, President Barack Obama signed an order to suspend
the proceedings of the Guantanamo military commission for 120 days and
to shut down the detention facility within the year.[11][12] On 29th
January 2009, a military judge at Guantanamo rejected the White House
request in the case of Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, creating an unexpected
challenge for the administration as it reviewed how the United States
brings Guantanamo detainees to trial.[13] On 20th May 2009, the United
States Senate passed an amendment to the Supplemental Appropriations Act
of 2009 (H.R. 2346) by a 90–6 vote to block funds needed for the
transfer or release of prisoners held at the Guantanamo Bay detention
camp.[14] President Obama issued a Presidential memorandum dated 15th
December 2009, ordering Thomson Correctional Center, Thomson, Illinois
to be prepared to accept transferred Guantanamo prisoners.[15]
The Final Report of the Guantanamo Review Task Force, dated 22nd January
2010, published the results for the 240 detainees subject to the Review:
36 were the subject of active cases or investigations; 30 detainees from
Yemen were designated for 'conditional detention' due to the poor
security environment in Yemen; 126 detainees were approved for transfer;
48 detainees were determined 'too dangerous to transfer but not feasible
for prosecution'.[16]
On 07th January 2011, President Obama signed the 2011 Defense
Authorization Bill, which, in part, placed restrictions on the transfer
of Guantanamo prisoners to the mainland or to foreign countries, thus
impeding the closure of the facility.[17] U.S. Secretary of Defense
Gates said during testimony before the U.S. Senate Armed Services
Committee on 17th February 2011: "The prospects for closing Guantanamo
as best I can tell are very, very low given very broad opposition to
doing that here in the Congress."[18] Congress particularly opposed
moving prisoners to facilities in the United States for detention or
trial.[18]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp

deep

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Jun 4, 2013, 5:34:59 PM6/4/13
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On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 12:57:46 -0500, RD Sandman
<rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:

>deep wrote in news:d6lqq8lcldj4ia21b...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 22:19:50 -0400, Harold Burton
>> <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <519fd4c9$0$12783$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
>>> FEMA Rendition Camps Czar <fea...@poo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
>>>> camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
>>>
>>>
>>>Ask the Current Resident, he's the one in charge. He had the ability
>to
>>>close Gitmo but chose not to.
>>
>> No he didn't you lying ass. He had the funding added to military
>> appropriations bill and Republicans blocked it. He tried, and
>> Republicans wouldn't let him, now they are blaming him for not doing
>> it.
>
>Hey, asshole. He had both Houses of Congress and the Presidency for two
>years. He didn't do it then and he hasn't done it now.
>
>Typical liberal oversight.

It's mind boggling how little you actually know about how our
government works.

deep

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Jun 4, 2013, 5:38:48 PM6/4/13
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On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 15:56:16 -0500, Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org>
wrote:
Nobody wants it in their state and Republicans are desperate for every
little thing they can dump on Obama about. They've vowed to block
Obama on everything and they're doing it.

>The simple-minded who view the President as an all-powerful father
>figure who can do whatever he wants, and are clueless who don't
>understand how Congress and our legal system actually work, along with
>the usual disingenuous partisans, will try to fix the blame on Obama
>exclusively. But his is incorrect and contrary to known facts.
>

Fortunately for the Republicans their constituency has very poor
memories, don't really pay attention anyway, and don't know how to use
google.

>Of course, with wearisome and familiar partisan hypocrisy, regressives
>who fully embraced Bush's dubious actions in the "War on Terror,"
>including the use of torture, and specifically including using
>Guantanamo as an extra-territorial prison, now want to castigate Obama
>for failing to correct Bush's wrongheaded decision to open the prison in
>the first place. To do so, they must ignore the facts, the law, and the
>steadfast opposition of Congress, among other factors, to justify their
>false and entirely partisan criticism. Fortunately for them, at least,
>such dishonesty and hypocrisy presents no impediment to them, so long as
>their purpose is to "get" Obama.

Yep. All they know is their hate.

Harold Burton

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Jun 4, 2013, 6:05:52 PM6/4/13
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The irony meter pegs.


laugh . . . laugh . . . laugh

Harold Burton

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Jun 4, 2013, 6:15:19 PM6/4/13
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In article <O9-dnXFGkNrvyTPM...@giganews.com>,
What about the simple-minded who claim the GOP are all-powerful
no-sayers who can single-handedly thwart whatever the Current Resident
wants, and who don't understand how Congress and our legal system
actually work, along with the usual disingenuous partisans, who keep
trying to fix the blame on the GOP exclusively?



snicker

deep

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Jun 4, 2013, 6:22:22 PM6/4/13
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Know what a filibuster is dipshit?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26087974@N05/7983998912/

>
>
>snicker

Gunner Asch

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Jun 4, 2013, 6:28:07 PM6/4/13
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On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 12:43:38 -0600, David Johnston <Da...@block.net>
Is it asking that? Or is that your simple minded, racist, bigoted and
utterly biased Opinion? Of course its your Opinion. Nothing more and
nothing less. Bigoted, biased and racists like you are often that far
to the side of madness.

With that said I can exercise my opinion as well. <VBG>

<Plink>

Gunner

Gunner Asch

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Jun 4, 2013, 6:29:26 PM6/4/13
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On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 12:57:46 -0500, RD Sandman
<rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:

>deep wrote in news:d6lqq8lcldj4ia21b...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 22:19:50 -0400, Harold Burton
>> <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <519fd4c9$0$12783$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
>>> FEMA Rendition Camps Czar <fea...@poo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused "
>>>> camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
>>>
>>>
>>>Ask the Current Resident, he's the one in charge. He had the ability
>to
>>>close Gitmo but chose not to.
>>
>> No he didn't you lying ass. He had the funding added to military
>> appropriations bill and Republicans blocked it. He tried, and
>> Republicans wouldn't let him, now they are blaming him for not doing
>> it.
>
>Hey, asshole. He had both Houses of Congress and the Presidency for two
>years. He didn't do it then and he hasn't done it now.
>
>Typical liberal oversight.

3 yrs actually. And they couldnt even agree with each other enough to
pass a budget for more than that.

Jeff M

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Jun 4, 2013, 6:29:44 PM6/4/13
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I don't suppose, then, that you have any understanding of how Congress,
and especially even a minority, or in some cases even one, of the Senate
can thwart the will of the President.

> and who don't understand how Congress and our legal system
> actually work, along with the usual disingenuous partisans, who keep
> trying to fix the blame on the GOP exclusively?

And who would they be, specifically?

Ray Keller

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Jun 4, 2013, 7:49:38 PM6/4/13
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LOL
Jeftard the Disbarred lawyer admits he is a lier
On the other hand, the AVVO and Florida Bar information is factual and about
him

The Florida State Bar only lists one Jeff McCann and he is disbarred


http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/0/1E2018ED1F7A362185256D950064C0A5?OpenDocument

Jeffrey Allen McCann
SuspendedNot eligible to practice in Florida


ID Number:-647004
Address:4371 Northlake Blvd # 249
Palm Beach Gardens, Florida 334106253
United States
Phone:561.839.5307

E-Mail:jmla...@gmail.com
vCard:

County:Palm Beach
Circuit:15
Admitted:08/06/2003

10-Year Discipline HistoryYes

Action DateReference
Suspension01-04-2012201250658
Suspended - with Conditions04-20-2012201290120

Law School:Nova Southeastern University - Shepard Broad Law Center
Graduation Year:2002
Degree:Doctor of Jurisprudence/Juris Doctor

Firm:The Mccann Firm P.A.
Services:ADA accessible client services


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org>
Newsgroups:
alt.bestjobsusa.florida.jobs,miami.general,misc.survivalism,soc.culture.african.american,tampa.music
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: Honest Colin Powell Points out the Racists, Again

> I just respond in kind, automatically posting the same sort of stuff
> that happens to have his name on it, precisely as he's doing, until Ray
> grows up or at least grows tired of his own nonsense. In the meantime, I
> just laugh at the fool he's making of himself online.
>
> But what are you gonna do? I can pity him, and I try not to feed the
> trolls. But even if Ray's driven by nothing more than his internal
> demons of mental illness, its obvious that I'm the target of this
> loony's strangely angry little obsession. Maybe he'll recover his mental
> and emotional equilibrium one day, or finally grow up, or just tire of
> being such a self-embarrassing fool. You can never tell with someone as
> disturbed as Ray appears to be. In the meantime, you could always just
> killfile Ray or me or both for a little while.
>

http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/33401-fl-jeffrey-mccann-1295730.html
Jeffrey Allen McCann
Avvo Rating 1.0 Extreme Caution
This lawyer has been disciplined by a state licensing authority.
State Citation type Year cited Last
updated by Avvo
Florida Suspended - with Conditions 2012 12/19/2012
Florida Suspension 2012






2A is the right to shoot tyrants, not deer.


SaPeIsMa

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"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:g9upq89fkv2rsd13c...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 13:53:27 -0600, David Johnston <Da...@block.net>
> wrote:
>
>>On 6/3/2013 12:59 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 12:37:07 -0600, David Johnston <Da...@block.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/25/2013 3:49 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 25 May 2013 14:32:57 -0700, pyotr filipivich
>>>>> <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Scout" <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> on Sat, 25 May
>>>>>> 2013 11:00:33 -0400 typed in misc.survivalism the following:
>>>>>>> <fea...@poo.com> wrote:.
>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2013 6:02 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 24 May 2013 15:59:52 -0500, fea...@poo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those "
>>>>>>>>>> accused "
>>>>>>>>>> camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
>>>>>>>>>>
> What gives you the bleeve that Im advocating it? So news reporters
> "advocate" the murders, robberies, etc etc that they report on? Is
> that your claim? That the MSM is advocating all those heinious
> crimes???????
>
> As for being on the wrong end..Molon Labe!
>


By that logic, the warmistas are "advocating" the death of millions by their
fantasy of "global warming", er, "climate change", er, "climate
disruption"..

Does anyone know what the new label following "climate disruption" is ??

Harold Burton

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Jun 5, 2013, 1:24:07 PM6/5/13
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In article <n2vrt.59559$9X5....@newsfe31.iad>,
"Ray Keller" <Left...@re.desperate.com> wrote:

> LOL
> Jeftard the Disbarred lawyer admits he is a lier
> On the other hand, the AVVO and Florida Bar information is factual and about
> him



That explains why he has so much free time to whine on usenet. :-)

MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE

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Jun 5, 2013, 1:40:33 PM6/5/13
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Harold Burton ...


OBAMA.
Pro-Invasion. Pro-Torture. Pro-Domestic Espionage
and STILL Pro-Repatriation of Terror to North America.


OBAMA isn't afraid of unleashing terror on you.
He simply needs you to believe it was someone else's idea,
someone else's fault.



"We'll actually have to work very hard to kill
as many people in the 21st century.
What's the difference?
This time, you think the victim could be you,"
Clinton'07

OBAMA shows up both Clinton's on how actually easy it really was.


Why else would OBAMA install
OUR HERO IRON SKY COMMANDER/JOHN KERRY to SECState. and Susan Rise to NSC?



SAME STORY, Different Decade.

http://mobile.wnd.com/2002/01/12585/
'Black Hawk Down' doesn't tell whole story
Movie about Somalia military disaster leaves out Clinton episodes

"When Clinton heard they were in town, he called them into
his office for a meeting and told them that part of the reason
they were dead WAS THEIR OWN FAULT," McKenny said.



History will show, once again,
how INACTION BY A OBAMA/CLINTON paved the
road for Global Jihad, Endless War, and the STATIST HELLWORLD.


"What difference does it make?"
-- CTHILLARY'13, bon mot.
A:
Had Bill Clinton done back in '93, in Mogadishu,
what Ethiopia in a SINGLE WEEK nearly a decade later
there factually would have been no OBL, no AlQaeda, no 911,
no Endless Wars, NO OBAMA!



RESTORED TO ALL ITS GLORY AFTER HILLARY/2016-purge.

http://paragraph11.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/paragraph11-clinton-joker.jpg
SHAMELESS EVIL POLITICO::




LIBs. What PRICE their Vision?
---
HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF, FIRST AS TRAGEDY, THEN AS FARCE:(OBAMA)
IT REALLY IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.


"to leave now we would send a message to terrorists
and other potential adversaries around the world that
they can change our policies by killing our people.
It would be open season on Americans."
-- Bill Clinton '93
just before he pulled out of Somalia.



To abandon this area now -- and to rely only on efforts against
alQaeda from a distance -- would significantly hamper our ability to
keep the pressure on al Qaeda, and create an UNACCEPTABLE RISK of
additional attacks on our homeland and our allies.
-- OBAMA'09 after doing precisely that.



SUCH would NOT be tolerated in a society with a long memory.

RD Sandman

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Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in news:O9-
dnXBGkNpSyTPMn...@giganews.com:
Lots of Democrats there, tweety bird. The Republicans numbered only 41.
That leaves 39 of those 90 votes being Democrats.
It's still there. None of the prisoners have been rehoused in the US or
in Yemen and the Democrats still control the Senate.

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Old Air Force adage..The only time you have too
much fuel is when you are on fire!!

RD Sandman

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Jun 5, 2013, 1:41:35 PM6/5/13
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deep wrote in news:s9nsq85l3orddkl8m...@4ax.com:
Yeahhhh, riiiight. Compared to you I am an Oracle.

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RD Sandman

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Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:qgqsq8l1jqi24aes6...@4ax.com:

> On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 12:57:46 -0500, RD Sandman
> <rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>deep wrote in news:d6lqq8lcldj4ia21b...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 22:19:50 -0400, Harold Burton
>>> <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <519fd4c9$0$12783$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
>>>> FEMA Rendition Camps Czar <fea...@poo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The over loaded federal prison system can't handle those " accused
"
>>>>> camel jockeys along with the other pampered inmates they store ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ask the Current Resident, he's the one in charge. He had the ability
>>to
>>>>close Gitmo but chose not to.
>>>
>>> No he didn't you lying ass. He had the funding added to military
>>> appropriations bill and Republicans blocked it. He tried, and
>>> Republicans wouldn't let him, now they are blaming him for not doing
>>> it.
>>
>>Hey, asshole. He had both Houses of Congress and the Presidency for
two
>>years. He didn't do it then and he hasn't done it now.
>>
>>Typical liberal oversight.
>
> 3 yrs actually. And they couldnt even agree with each other enough to
> pass a budget for more than that.

How do you get three years out of January of 2009 to January of 2011?

--
Sleep well, tonight.....

RD (The Sandman

RD Sandman

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Jun 5, 2013, 1:47:33 PM6/5/13
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Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in
news:O9-dnXFGkNrvyTPM...@giganews.com:
Keyword, Jeff....."bipartisan". His own party was part of what was
blocking him. It wasn't all just nasty conservatives.

I suppose no Congress member wants
> to get the Willie Horton treatment from campaign opponents, if
> something should thereafter go wrong, such a a former detainee
> engaging in a terrorist attack.
>
> The simple-minded who view the President as an all-powerful father
> figure who can do whatever he wants, and are clueless who don't
> understand how Congress and our legal system actually work, along with
> the usual disingenuous partisans, will try to fix the blame on Obama
> exclusively.

Who is doing that? I said he made a claim and didn't back it up. I
believe if you will look up there I said control of BOTH houses of
Congress and the PRESIDENCY. He didn't get his own part to go along with
him.

But his is incorrect and contrary to known facts.
>
> Of course, with wearisome and familiar partisan hypocrisy, regressives
> who fully embraced Bush's dubious actions in the "War on Terror,"
> including the use of torture, and specifically including using
> Guantanamo as an extra-territorial prison, now want to castigate Obama
> for failing to correct Bush's wrongheaded decision to open the prison
> in the first place. To do so, they must ignore the facts, the law,
> and the steadfast opposition of Congress, among other factors, to
> justify their false and entirely partisan criticism. Fortunately for
> them, at least, such dishonesty and hypocrisy presents no impediment
> to them, so long as their purpose is to "get" Obama.

Why don't you save that crap for someone who is out to get Obama?


--
Sleep well, tonight.....

RD (The Sandman

RD Sandman

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Jun 5, 2013, 1:48:50 PM6/5/13
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deep wrote in news:u3qsq89qoljdsi72v...@4ax.com:
Do you understand what 90-2 vote is, dipstick? If not, ask Jeff, he will
fill you in.

--
Sleep well, tonight.....

RD (The Sandman

RD Sandman

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Jun 5, 2013, 1:49:33 PM6/5/13
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Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in
news:rZGdncNI3IDH9zPM...@giganews.com:
Must have been more than that to have a vote 90-2 against.

>> and who don't understand how Congress and our legal system
>> actually work, along with the usual disingenuous partisans, who keep
>> trying to fix the blame on the GOP exclusively?
>
> And who would they be, specifically?
>
>



--
Sleep well, tonight.....

RD (The Sandman

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