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Too_Many_Tools

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Jul 6, 2009, 5:07:55 PM7/6/09
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Our President Obama just made you and your family safer than they ever
were under George Bush.

You and your family can sleep sounder tonight knowing that your
President is doing his job instead of taking yet another taxpayer
funded vacation in Texas.

Meanwhile Cut and Run Sarah can still see Russia from her trailer park
after drinking a couple six packs of beer...the breakfast of
Republicans.

TMT

Obama, Medvedev agree to pursue nuclear reduction
By BEN FELLER, Associated Press Writer Ben Feller, Associated Press
Writer

MOSCOW – President Barack Obama and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev
signed a preliminary agreement Monday to reduce the world's two
largest nuclear stockpiles by as much as a third, down to the lowest
levels of any U.S.-Russia accord, and counter what Obama called "a
sense of drift" in the countries' relations.

"We must lead by example, and that's what we are doing here today,"
Obama declared in a Kremlin hall glittering in gold. "We resolve to
reset U.S.-Russian relations so that we can cooperate more effectively
in areas of common interest."

The document signed by the two leaders at a Moscow summit, Obama's
first in Russia, is meant as a guide for negotiators as the nations
work toward a replacement pact for the START arms control agreement
that expires in December. The joint understanding also commits the
countries to lower longer-range missiles for delivering nuclear bombs
to between 500 and 1,100.

The limit for warheads would be in a range of 1,500 to 1,675 each.
However, there are disagreements on what to count.

Medvedev called Monday's agreement a "reasonable compromise."

A White House statement said the new treaty "will include effective
verification measures" and Obama said it would be completed by the end
of the year. He also held out hope to "move even beyond that in
subsequent agreements and treaties" and said he wanted to host a
summit on global nuclear security next year in the United States.

More broadly, Obama needs Russia's help in pressuring Iran and North
Korea to give up their nuclear weapons ambitions, and also in tackling
terrorism, global warming and worldwide economic woes. But ties are
frayed over Moscow's war in Georgia last year and the U.S. plan for a
new missile defense system in Eastern Europe, so Obama's desire to
move forward is a huge test of his diplomatic skills.

"The president and I agreed that the relationship between Russia and
the United States has suffered from a sense of drift," he said at
Medvedev's side. "President Medvedev and I are committed to leaving
behind the suspicion and rivalry of the past."

His host expressed similar good will.

"This is the first but very important step in improving full-scale
cooperation between our two countries, which would go to the benefit
of both states," the Russian leader said. Injecting a note of caution,
he said that discussions so far "cannot remove the burden of all the
problems."

The two leaders appeared together at a news conference where they and
other officials from both countries signed and exchanged documents
with great flourish and much handshaking.

Among the side deals meant to sweeten Obama's two days of talks here
and show progress toward improving badly damaged U.S.-Russian
relations was permission from Moscow for the United States to
transport arms across its land and airspace into Afghanistan for the
war there. Obama said the deal will save the U.S. "both time and
money," to the tune of $133 million a year, by waiving transit fees
and shortening flying time.

They outlined other areas in which they said their countries would
work together to help stabilize Afghanistan, including increasing
assistance to the Afghan army and police, and training
counternarcotics personnel.

Among other agreements was the resumption of military cooperation,
suspended after Russia invaded neighboring Georgia last August and
sent relations into a nosedive.

They also promised fresh cooperation on public health issues and
revived a joint commission to try to account for missing service
members of both countries dating back to World War II. The commission
was first created by the first President Bush and President Boris
Yeltsin in the early 1990s, but the Russians later downgraded their
participation. The U.S. hope is that the Russians will now open some
of their more sensitive archives to U.S. researchers seeking details
about missing American servicemen.

Yet, the two sides remain stalemated over the U.S. pursuit of a
missile-defense system in Europe, pushed aggressively by Bush and
still under review by Obama's 7-month-old administration. Both sides
hardened their positions ahead of the summit, and Obama gave a lengthy
rationale for the system at Medvedev's side.

Obama suggested the United States has a right to pursue defensive
systems separate from the offensive weapons that are the subject of
most arms control negotiations. Obama repeated the U.S. position that
the planned system is aimed at intercepting missiles from Iran and has
nothing to do with countering" a mighty Russian arsenal," as many in
Russia suspect.

Medvedev called it "a difficult area for our discussion," but
suggested that the new openness between the two countries could help.

Obama said he trusts the Russian leader to follow through on the
agreements they struck. And he refused to be drawn into a debate over
who really holds the reins of power in Russia, widely believed to be
Medvedev's predecessor and mentor, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin. "My
understanding is, President Medvedev is the president ... and Prime
Minister Putin is the prime minister," Obama simply said.

Obama, who meets with Putin on Tuesday, caused a stir in Russia before
his trip by telling The Associated Press that Putin has to learn that
"the old Cold War approaches to U.S.-Russian relations is outdated."

The summit starts a weeklong trip for Obama that also features G-8
meetings and a visit with the pope in Italy, and a speech in Ghana.

After Obama landed in Moscow under drizzly gray skies, he introduced
his wife, Michelle, and their two daughters to Russian officials
waiting to greet them. The entourage then headed to a wreath-laying
ceremony at Russia's Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

Having enjoyed adoring crowds in other parts of Europe, Obama will
face a far more skeptical Russian population. He will outline his
vision for U.S.-Russian relations at a speech Tuesday at the New
Economic School.

Just 15 percent of Russians say the U.S. is playing a positive role in
the world; most said the United States abuses it power and makes
Russia do what the U.S. wants, according to the University of
Maryland's WorldPublicOpinion.org out Sunday.

"I would like to see America meddle less in other countries," said
Valentina Titova, a 60-year-old retired economist strolling not far
from the Kremlin.

Between them, the two countries possess more than 90 percent of the
world's nuclear weapons.

The 1991 Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, or START, led each country
to cut its nuclear warheads to about 6,000. The 2002 Treaty of Moscow
called for further cuts to between 1,700 and 2,200 operationally
deployed warheads by 2012.

But Moscow and Washington have long argued over what weapons should be
subject to cuts.

Russia wants to limit missiles, bombers and submarines along with
nuclear warheads, just as the original START treaty did. The 2002
agreement applied only to warheads. Also, the United States has been
prepared to count only the warheads ready for launch, while Russia
wants to count those in storage as well.

carl

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Jul 6, 2009, 6:20:40 PM7/6/09
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HAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh crap. A liberal nutcase who believes
what Obama is doing is a great thing. HAHAHAHAHAHA.
I'm still waiting for Obama go face to face with the Iranian Pres.
If Obama has the balls. Which I don't think he has.

"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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edi...@netpath.net

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Jul 6, 2009, 6:54:38 PM7/6/09
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Bullshit. Anyone in any metro American area willing to bet that -
even if the Russkies got rid of all but 10 of their nukes - THEIR city
won't be 1 of the 10 Russia would nuke first?

http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!

George

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Jul 6, 2009, 6:59:10 PM7/6/09
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thanks to Bush doing all the heavy lifting, then Obie waltz's in and
sweeps up the crumbs.
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Too_Many_Tools

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Jul 6, 2009, 11:09:50 PM7/6/09
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On Jul 6, 5:59 pm, George <s...@nos.pam> wrote:
> thanks to Bush doing all the heavy lifting,  then Obie waltz's in and
> sweeps up the crumbs.

LOL...the only heavy lifting that Bush ever did was a six pack in each
hand.

TMT

DockScience

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Jul 6, 2009, 11:13:35 PM7/6/09
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"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:0e5a3ff0-bbf2-4263...@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com...
>Our President Obama just made you and your family safer than they ever
>were under George Bush.

Yes... Obama is printing money and your children will pay.


Too_Many_Tools

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Jul 6, 2009, 11:21:36 PM7/6/09
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On Jul 6, 8:07 pm, Mike M. <blarny...@att.net> wrote:
> In article <0e5a3ff0-bbf2-4263-8aef-
> e200e9f03...@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com>
>
> Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Our President
>
> is an Arab cock smoking liberal.

Hmmm...I remember Bush doing the handholding with the Arabs.

Was before or after the Arab cock smoking conservative did the Arabs,
started two wars he didn't finish and spend the Country to the brink
of a depression?

And do you ever notice that it is always the winger who pulls the sex
card?

Don't you guys ever get any?

TMT

Poetic Justice

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Jul 7, 2009, 12:53:41 AM7/7/09
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His children will all be on welfare.... like him.

Bill Smith

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Jul 7, 2009, 1:45:06 AM7/7/09
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On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:07:55 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
<too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Our President Obama just made you and your family safer than they ever
>were under George Bush.

Neither of them can make anyone safe no matter what. A feeling of
safety is an illusion, perhaps even a delusion. Any politician who
says he can make you safe is a liar. Any politician who says he can
make you safe if you give up some of your freedom is a tyrant.

>You and your family can sleep sounder tonight knowing that your
>President is doing his job instead of taking yet another taxpayer
>funded vacation in Texas.

Tax payer funded vacations are okay as long as they aren't in Texas?
Obama has had several already, and that's not necessarily a complaint.


Bill Smith

George

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Jul 7, 2009, 6:54:43 AM7/7/09
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only lifting Obie done is a crack pipe or a doobie.

Bugman

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Jul 7, 2009, 8:40:50 AM7/7/09
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"DockScience" <DockS...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:EoKdndyks6PCIM_X...@giganews.com...

Who was paying for the huge debt from Bush?

Scout

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Jul 7, 2009, 9:07:22 AM7/7/09
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We all are, but Obama managed to spend in about 3 months what it took
Bush over 4 years to do. At the rate he's going to Bush deficit is going
to look like a drop in the bucket. Heck, even if he holds to his
political promise (a first) and cuts his deficit spending by 50% by the
end of 4 years he still will out spend Bush nearly 3 to 1, and that all
in 4 years instead of 8.

Curly Surmudgeon

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Jul 7, 2009, 1:11:03 PM7/7/09
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On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:07:22 -0400, Scout
<me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

> Bugman wrote:
>>
>>
>> "DockScience" <DockS...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:EoKdndyks6PCIM_X...@giganews.com...
>>>
>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>>> news:0e5a3ff0-bbf2-4263-8aef-
e200e9...@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com...


>>>> Our President Obama just made you and your family safer than they
>>>> ever were under George Bush.
>>>
>>> Yes... Obama is printing money and your children will pay.
>>>
>>>
>> Who was paying for the huge debt from Bush?
>
> We all are, but Obama managed to spend in about 3 months what it took
> Bush over 4 years to do.

Nope, don't drink the Kool Aid. Unless you can show objective cites that
delineate the total Bush waste, including infrastructure deterioration,
debt bonds, theft of retirement accounts, M3, etc. to compare with the
actual outlays at this point in time by Obama that is not a valid claim.

> At the rate he's going to Bush deficit is going to look like a drop in
> the bucket.

Do you not consider the money required to fix the Bush Economy that of
George Walker Bush? Remember, this years budget was written by Bush, not
Obama...

> Heck, even if he holds to his
> political promise (a first) and cuts his deficit spending by 50% by the
> end of 4 years he still will out spend Bush nearly 3 to 1, and that all
> in 4 years instead of 8.

That claim is prediated upon what seems to be an erroneous assumption.

--
Regards, Curly
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Scout

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Jul 7, 2009, 5:57:37 PM7/7/09
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Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:07:22 -0400, Scout
> <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> Bugman wrote:
>>>
>>> "DockScience" <DockS...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:EoKdndyks6PCIM_X...@giganews.com...
>>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:0e5a3ff0-bbf2-4263-8aef-
> e200e9...@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> Our President Obama just made you and your family safer than they
>>>>> ever were under George Bush.
>>>> Yes... Obama is printing money and your children will pay.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Who was paying for the huge debt from Bush?
>> We all are, but Obama managed to spend in about 3 months what it took
>> Bush over 4 years to do.
>
> Nope, don't drink the Kool Aid. Unless you can show objective cites that
> delineate the total Bush waste, including infrastructure deterioration,
> debt bonds, theft of retirement accounts, M3, etc. to compare with the
> actual outlays at this point in time by Obama that is not a valid claim.

IOW, totally rewrite the rules to suit your agenda. You want to show
Obama has done such a wonderful job, then show me. All I see is he spend
a shit load of money in a short period of time and we have gotten all
but nothing in return.

Jimbo

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Jul 7, 2009, 6:04:28 PM7/7/09
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On Jul 6, 6:59 pm, George <s...@nos.pam> wrote:
> thanks to Bush doing all the heavy lifting,  

Bullshit.

George

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Jul 7, 2009, 6:31:48 PM7/7/09
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DOES YOUR MOTHER KNOW YOU SUCK DICKS WITH THAT MOUTH?

Scott M. Kozel

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Jul 7, 2009, 9:57:57 PM7/7/09
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George <s...@nos.pam> wrote:
>
> thanks to Bush doing all the heavy lifting,  then Obie waltz's in and
> sweeps up the crumbs.

Just like Reagan and GHW Bush did the heavy lifting to defeat the
USSR, and then Clintoon inherited the benefits.

HH&C

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Jul 8, 2009, 7:30:21 PM7/8/09
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http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/07/federal.buildings.security/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A contrite head of the Federal Protective Service
took the blame Wednesday for security lapses that allowed covert
investigators to sneak bomb components into 10 federal government
buildings.


A GAO report cites lax security in federal buildings after
investigators got bomb components past guards.

The Government Accountability Office, which conducted the tests,
testified that they showed the service to be "an agency in crisis."

Plainclothes investigators testing the effectiveness of private
contract guards at federal office buildings were able to smuggle in
bomb components in all 10 attempts. Only one investigator was stopped
and questioned, but he was allowed to pass with the components of a
liquid bomb.

Once inside the facilities, the testers assembled the bombs in
restrooms, put them in briefcases and "walked freely" into government
offices, according to the Government Accountability Office. Watch
undercover agent smuggle bomb »

Asked point-blank at a Senate hearing Wednesday why the security
guards had failed, Protective Service Director Gary Schenkel said,
"It's purely a lack of oversight on our part."

He added, "I take full responsibility. I am the director of the
organization."

Schenkel, who assumed his post in early 2007, said the police force
was hampered earlier this decade by major budget cuts, which forced
the agency to reorganize how it protects 9,000 federal facilities
nationwide.

Although police officers formerly protected federal buildings, the
agency now uses a core cadre of 1,200 sworn federal officers or
"inspectors" to oversee a small army of about 13,000 private security
guards who man the X-ray machines and magnetometers at building
entrances.

Department of Homeland Security put out an official statement
Wednesday focusing on steps the Federal Protective Service is taking
to improve the situation, but Schenkel was at times more negative,
outlining some of the problems the agency faces.

The service, he said, used a "stubby pencil" system to keep track of
guards, and it would take a "full year, I believe" for changes being
made now to have an effect .

"When I came here, I made an analogy that we were a ship, and it takes
38 miles at sea to turn a ship, an aircraft carrier. I think we are
probably on mile six, but we've certainly initiated the turn," he
said.

Mark Goldstein of the Government Accountability Office testified about
the investigators' operations.

"We brought in all the components that we needed to make a real bomb,"
he said, though the concentration of explosives was "below the trigger
point" for safety reasons. Investigators obtained the components at
local stores and over the Internet for less than $150, the report
says.

"In a number of the locations -- three or four of them -- the guards
were not even looking at the screens that would show materials passing
through," Goldstein said.

"If a guard had been looking, they would have seen materials that are
ordinarily not brought into a federal building, and should have
stopped our investigators and asked, 'Why are you bringing these kinds
of things into a fed building, and what is your purpose?' But in
really no case did that occur.

"In only one instance did a guard ask about something that an
investigator was carrying, [and] after a brief explanation, that guard
let it go through," Goldstein said.

The covert agents then assembled bombs in the bathrooms, he said. "In
some cases, bathrooms were locked, but federal employees let us in,"
he said.

Having assembled the bomb, typically in less than four minutes, the
agents placed it an a briefcase "and walked around a variety of
federal offices -- both legislative branch offices and executive
branch offices in the four cities we went to," Goldstein said.

He blamed the lapses on an "antiquated approach" to security, saying
federal building security is directed in part by the buildings'
tenants, who form a committee to determine the appropriate level of
security. So decisions are made "by people who, frankly, ought not be
making them," he said.

He also said security is "budget-driven; it's not risk-driven."

But he shied away from recommending that the contract security jobs be
federalized, a move the government took for airport security screeners
following the September 11 terrorist attacks. That would be a policy
decision, he said.

But he said the Protective Service was lax in assuring that security
standards it set were followed by the private contract guards. Of 663
randomly selected guards, 411, or 62 percent, were missing some form
of required certification, such as an up-to-date firearm
qualification, background investigation or CPR or first aid training.

Included in the Government Accountability Office report is a
photograph of a guard asleep at his post.

The report also detailed an instance in which a woman placed an infant
in a carrier on an X-ray machine while retrieving identification.
Because the guard was not paying attention and the machine's safety
features had been disabled, the infant was sent through the X-ray
machine, according to the report.

The Protective Service dismissed the guard, who sued the agency for
failing to provide X-ray training. The agency lost the suit because it
could not prove that the guard had been trained, the report says.

In one region, the service "has not provided the required eight hours
of [X-ray] or magnetometer training to its 1,500 guards since 2004,"
the report says.

It report also says the service does not have a national guidance on
how often its inspectors should check on the contract guards. In
several instances, when inspectors have checked on guards, they found
"instances of guards not complying with post orders."

In one case, the report says, a guard was caught using government
computers to manage a for-profit adult Web site.

All of the buildings involved in the bomb smuggling test were "Level
IV" buildings, meaning they house more than 450 federal employees and
have a high volume of public contact. The Government Accountability
Office has declined to identify the specific buildings "because of the
sensitivity of some of the information," the report says.

After the report was obtained by CNN late Tuesday, ahead of its
release Wednesday, Sen. Joseph Lieberman, I-Connecticut, chairman of
the Homeland Security Committee, called the test results "simply
unacceptable."

Added Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, "In this post-9/11 world that we're
now living in, I can not imagine how security lapses of this magnitude
were allowed to occur. "


Both Lieberman and Collins said they were putting the Federal
Protective Service on a list of "high-risk" agencies and asked
Schenkel to provide them with details of how he would fix the security
lapses.

Although the investigators ensured that bombs assembled in the
buildings would not explode, they later videotaped the detonation of
several of the devices at a remote site to demonstrate the their
destructive power.

Curly Surmudgeon

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Curly Surmudgeon

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What part of "objective" did you fail to comprehend?

Oh, you evaded this snippit:

> At the rate he's going to Bush deficit is going to look like a drop in
> the bucket.

Do you not consider the money required to fix the Bush Economy that of
George Walker Bush? Remember, this years budget was written by Bush, not
Obama...

--

HH&C

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Jul 8, 2009, 8:41:47 PM7/8/09
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On Jul 8, 7:39 pm, Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudg...@live.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:57:37 -0400, Scout
>
>
>
>
>
> <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> > Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
> >> On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:07:22 -0400, Scout
> >> <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >>> Bugman wrote:
>
> >>>> "DockScience" <DockScie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:EoKdndyks6PCIM_X...@giganews.com...
> >>>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:0e5a3ff0-bbf2-4263-8aef-
> >> e200e9f03...@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com...

> >>>>>> Our President Obama just made you and your family safer than they
> >>>>>> ever were under George Bush.
> >>>>> Yes... Obama is printing money and your children will pay.
>
> >>>> Who was paying for the huge debt from Bush?
> >>> We all are, but Obama managed to spend in about 3 months what it took
> >>> Bush over 4 years to do.
>
> >> Nope, don't drink the Kool Aid.  Unless you can show objective cites
> >> that delineate the total Bush waste, including infrastructure
> >> deterioration, debt bonds, theft of retirement accounts, M3, etc. to
> >> compare with the actual outlays at this point in time by Obama that is
> >> not a valid claim.
>
> > IOW, totally rewrite the rules to suit your agenda. You want to show
> > Obama has done such a wonderful job, then show me. All I see is he spend
> > a shit load of money in a short period of time and we have gotten all
> > but nothing in return.
>
> What part of "objective" did you fail to comprehend?
>
> Oh, you evaded this snippit:
>
> > At the rate he's going to Bush deficit is going to look like a drop in
> > the bucket.
>
> Do you not consider the money required to fix the Bush Economy that of
> George Walker Bush?  Remember, this years budget was written by Bush, not
> Obama...

Odd. I thought the (democrat) congress wrote the spending bills.
You'll correct me if I'm wrong, right?

> --
> Regards, Curly
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­---
>                          http://tinycurly.com/lpcbrm
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­---

Patriot Games

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:08:15 AM7/9/09
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On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:07:27 +0200, Mike M. <blar...@att.net> wrote:
>In article <0e5a3ff0-bbf2-4263-8aef-
>e200e9...@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com>

>Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Our President
>is an Arab cock smoking liberal.

Bwahahahahahahahhaha!!!

Curly Surmudgeon

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Jul 9, 2009, 12:49:38 PM7/9/09
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On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:08:15 -0400, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
wrote:

Well, Patrick, when are you going to come kill me? Are you just another
usenet wanker or going to follow through on your death threat?

AndyWest

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Jul 9, 2009, 1:12:08 PM7/9/09
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Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:08:15 -0400, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:07:27 +0200, Mike M. <blar...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <0e5a3ff0-bbf2-4263-8aef-
>>>e200e9...@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com> Too_Many_Tools
>>><too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Our President
>>>
>>>is an Arab cock smoking liberal.
>>
>>Bwahahahahahahahhaha!!!
>
>
> Well, Patrick, when are you going to come kill me? Are you just another
> usenet wanker or going to follow through on your death threat?

Apparently, he and "TMT" gathering quarters to pay for the toll booths.

Curly Surmudgeon

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Jul 9, 2009, 1:28:24 PM7/9/09
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I don't think TMT actually issued a death threat but indicated he would
"visit" you. Patrick has repeated his death threat once too often and
I'm going to take him up on his offer just to prove what a coward he is.

You know where I am, I've posted the exact geographical coordinates plus
this is a very small town and everyone here knows me. There is no excuse
for punking out. Let's set a date this month for I have serious
obligations which take me out of town. Usenet wankers are not.

Miss Ann Thrope

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Jul 9, 2009, 1:44:39 PM7/9/09
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On Jul 9, 12:28 pm, Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudg...@live.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:12:08 -0400, AndyWest <DixieDr...@bass.gov> wrote:
> > Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
> >> On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:08:15 -0400, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com>
> >> wrote:

>
> >>>On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:07:27 +0200, Mike M. <blarny...@att.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>In article <0e5a3ff0-bbf2-4263-8aef-
> >>>>e200e9f03...@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com> Too_Many_Tools
> >>>><too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>Our President
>
> >>>>is an Arab cock smoking liberal.
>
> >>>Bwahahahahahahahhaha!!!
>
> >> Well, Patrick, when are you going to come kill me?  Are you just
> >> another usenet wanker or going to follow through on your death threat?
>
> > Apparently, he and "TMT"  gathering quarters to pay for the toll booths.
>
> I don't think TMT actually issued a death threat but indicated he would
> "visit" you.  Patrick has repeated his death threat once too often and
> I'm going to take him up on his offer just to prove what a coward he is.
>
> You know where I am, I've posted the exact geographical coordinates plus
> this is a very small town and everyone here knows me.  There is no excuse
> for punking out.  Let's set a date this month for I have serious
> obligations which take me out of town.  Usenet wankers are not.
>
> --
> Regards, Curly
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­---
>                          http://tinyurl.com/lpcbrm
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­---- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Damn. I'm surprised that other long time usenet stalker, lil' robw,
hasn't begged to meet you. He seems to be the most confused of the "I
wanna' meet you" crowd. But,I guess if I was a 58 year old,dreads
wearing, 5' 6'',tattooed,earring wearing, dwarf whigger looozzzuuurrr
I'd be looking for a way to inflate my deflated ego too.

Curly Surmudgeon

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Hiding behind a modem gives a false sense of courage.

AndyWest

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Curly Surmudgeon wrote:

> On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:12:08 -0400, AndyWest <Dixie...@bass.gov> wrote:
>
>
>>Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:08:15 -0400, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:07:27 +0200, Mike M. <blar...@att.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In article <0e5a3ff0-bbf2-4263-8aef-
>>>>>e200e9...@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com> Too_Many_Tools
>>>>><too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Our President
>>>>>
>>>>>is an Arab cock smoking liberal.
>>>>
>>>>Bwahahahahahahahhaha!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>Well, Patrick, when are you going to come kill me? Are you just
>>>another usenet wanker or going to follow through on your death threat?
>>
>>Apparently, he and "TMT" gathering quarters to pay for the toll booths.
>
>
> I don't think TMT actually issued a death threat but indicated he would
> "visit" you.

"TMT" said he would come into my house and take my stuff... with his
friends!

I called his bluff when I gave him my address.

Did he say he would kill me?
No!
I said I would STOP HIM if he broke into my home to take my stuff.

"TMT" will not "visit" anybody!

I told that coward that I am not to be "visited" so as to chat with.

I didn't invite him.

HE said he would come by and take my stuff.

I double dogged dared him!

I will STOP him IF he makes that attempt to burglarize my home.

If "stop" means "justifiable homicide"... WOO HOOO... he WIll be stopped
and put down!

First shot will "possibly" be into the torso.
But if I hit his tiny cranium instead, who cares?

What loss?

> Patrick has repeated his death threat once too often and
> I'm going to take him up on his offer just to prove what a coward he is.

I don't know about or care about this "Patrick" or how you desire to
deal with it.

Perhaps PAT and TMT are related?
I don't care.

All I know is that TMT is a liar and a pussy, and that I _will_ shoot "
to stop" the first SOB that enters my home with the intent to cause harm
and take my stuff.

And by "stopping" well, y'all know what THAT means!


> You know where I am,

I don't know you or care.

YOU are of no consequence or threat to me...or visa versa.

I've never talked to you.


> I've posted the exact geographical coordinates plus
> this is a very small town and everyone here knows me. There is no excuse
> for punking out. Let's set a date this month for I have serious
> obligations which take me out of town. Usenet wankers are not.


Drink water!

Curly Surmudgeon

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Wasn't addressed to you but "Patriot Games." I know you saw the header,
you changed it.

You are the cockroach under another alias. Smoosh!

> YOU are of no consequence or threat to me...or visa versa.
>
> I've never talked to you.

You're lying. Again. Cockroach.

>> I've posted the exact geographical coordinates plus this is a very
>> small town and everyone here knows me. There is no excuse for punking
>> out. Let's set a date this month for I have serious obligations which
>> take me out of town. Usenet wankers are not.
>
>
> Drink water!

Google wanker. Buh, bye!

tankfixer

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In article <0e5a3ff0-bbf2-4263-8aef-e200e9f036e5
@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com>, too_man...@yahoo.com says...

>
> You and your family can sleep sounder tonight knowing that your
> President is doing his job instead of taking yet another taxpayer
> funded vacation in Texas.

Obama's is in Europe...

>
> Meanwhile Cut and Run Sarah can still see Russia from her trailer park
> after drinking a couple six packs of beer...the breakfast of
> Republicans.

Except she never said any such thing.


>
> TMT
>
> Obama, Medvedev agree to pursue nuclear reduction
> By BEN FELLER, Associated Press Writer Ben Feller, Associated Press
> Writer
>

> MOSCOW ? President Barack Obama and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev
>


Message has been deleted

Too_Many_Tools

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On Jul 9, 4:27 pm, AndyWest <DixieDr...@bass.gov> wrote:
> Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
> > On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:12:08 -0400, AndyWest <DixieDr...@bass.gov> wrote:
>
> >>Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>
> >>>On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:08:15 -0400, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com>
> >>>wrote:
>

> >>>>On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:07:27 +0200, Mike M. <blarny...@att.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>In article <0e5a3ff0-bbf2-4263-8aef-
> >>>>>e200e9f03...@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com> Too_Many_Tools

LOL...after your "kind" invitations, I asked for a valid address so I
and my friends can come visit you.

You have yet to provide a valid invitation.

Liar...coward....winger.. "Andy West" (and your other nyms) you are
just a loser.

And it would seem that you will always be a loser....without an
address.

Laugh...laugh...laugh...

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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Jul 10, 2009, 10:50:43 PM7/10/09
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On Jul 6, 4:07 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Our President Obama just made you and your family safer than they ever
> were under George Bush.
>
> You and your family can sleep sounder tonight knowing that your
> President is doing his job instead of taking yet another taxpayer
> funded vacation in Texas.
>
> Meanwhile Cut and Run Sarah can still see Russia from her trailer park
> after drinking a couple six packs of beer...the breakfast of
> Republicans.
>
> TMT
>
> Obama, Medvedev agree to pursue nuclear reduction
> By BEN FELLER, Associated Press Writer Ben Feller, Associated Press
> Writer
>

LOL...it just drives the wingers crazy knowing what a great President
Obama is.

And how bad Bush really was.

TMT

Curly Surmudgeon

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Jul 10, 2009, 11:22:01 PM7/10/09
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>> >>>On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:08:15 -0400, Patriot Games
>> >>><Patr...@America.Com> wrote:

-------snip------

>> > I've posted the exact geographical coordinates plus this is a very
>> > small town and everyone here knows me.  There is no excuse for
>> > punking out.  Let's set a date this month for I have serious
>> > obligations which take me out of town.  Usenet wankers are not.

Please, the two of you take it to another thread. I've accepted Patrick
Milby's (Patriot Games) death threat and challenge. Please do not give
him any excuse to pull a Gummer.

Again, let us set a date and discover if you have the balls to carry out
your threat or are just another usenet wanker.

Stop hiding, "Patriot Games."

--
Regards, Curly
------------------------------------------------------------------------
If George Bush had a soul it would be damned
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Too_Many_Tools

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Jul 11, 2009, 3:39:17 AM7/11/09
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On Jul 11, 2:33 am, "Pig Brick" <pigbr...@pigbrick.com> wrote:
> "Winston_Smith" <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote in message
>
> news:ctrf55hnpdbcgdvnl...@4ax.com...

>
> > On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:09:42 -0700, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >>In article <0e5a3ff0-bbf2-4263-8aef-e200e9f036e5
> >>@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com>, too_many_to...@yahoo.com says...

>
> >>> You and your family can sleep sounder tonight knowing that your
> >>> President is doing his job instead of taking yet another taxpayer
> >>> funded vacation in Texas.
>
> >> Obama's is in Europe...
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//090710/481/7b658b9b7e3...
> Today he's in Africa. Sleep safely.
>
>
>
> >http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=50528
> > the White House will not reveal the cost to taxpayers of the European
> > vacation that first lady Michelle Obama and the president’s two
> > daughters, Malia and Sasha, took last month.

>
> >>> Meanwhile Cut and Run Sarah can still see Russia from her trailer park
> >>> after drinking a couple six packs of beer...the breakfast of
> >>> Republicans.
>
> >>Except she never said any such thing.
>
> > It was a Saturday Night Live skit.  But it's such a good quote.  It
> > does pretty much sum up most of her style of "logic".

I am.

Cut n Run Sarah isn't.

TMT

Pig Brick

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"AndyWest" <Dixie...@bass.gov> wrote in message
news:4a5660aa$0$22518$607e...@cv.net...


> Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:12:08 -0400, AndyWest <Dixie...@bass.gov> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:08:15 -0400, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:07:27 +0200, Mike M. <blar...@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article <0e5a3ff0-bbf2-4263-8aef-
>>>>>>e200e9...@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com> Too_Many_Tools
>>>>>><too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Our President
>>>>>>
>>>>>>is an Arab cock smoking liberal.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bwahahahahahahahhaha!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Well, Patrick, when are you going to come kill me? Are you just
>>>>another usenet wanker or going to follow through on your death threat?
>>>
>>>Apparently, he and "TMT" gathering quarters to pay for the toll booths.
>>
>>
>> I don't think TMT actually issued a death threat but indicated he would
>> "visit" you.
>
> "TMT" said he would come into my house and take my stuff... with his
> friends!

He said he would come with his moms (both of them) in the Subaru.

Pig Brick

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"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> and my moms (both of them) can come visit you.

Too_Many_Tools

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Jul 11, 2009, 3:48:14 AM7/11/09
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On Jul 11, 2:40 am, "Pig Brick" <pigbr...@pigbrick.com> wrote:
> "AndyWest" <DixieDr...@bass.gov> wrote in message

>
> news:4a5660aa$0$22518$607e...@cv.net...
>
>
>
> > Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>
> >> On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:12:08 -0400, AndyWest <DixieDr...@bass.gov> wrote:
>
> >>>Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>
> >>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:08:15 -0400, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com>
> >>>>wrote:
>

> >>>>>On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:07:27 +0200, Mike M. <blarny...@att.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>In article <0e5a3ff0-bbf2-4263-8aef-
> >>>>>>e200e9f03...@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com> Too_Many_Tools

Pig Brick is cruising for a hookup...anyone interested?

Pig Brick

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"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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Did you hookup your new power drill yet? Remember you were telling the folks
in alt.dildos how you were going to make more peepholes in your basement
ceiling?

Pig Brick

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"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> On Jul 11, 2:33 am, "Pig Brick" <pigbr...@pigbrick.com> wrote:
>> "Winston_Smith" <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:ctrf55hnpdbcgdvnl...@4ax.com...
>>
>> > On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:09:42 -0700, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >>In article <0e5a3ff0-bbf2-4263-8aef-e200e9f036e5
>> >>@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com>, too_many_to...@yahoo.com says...
>>
>> >>> You and your family can sleep sounder tonight knowing that your
>> >>> President is doing his job instead of taking yet another taxpayer
>> >>> funded vacation in Texas.
>>
>> >> Obama's is in Europe...
>>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//090710/481/7b658b9b7e3...
>> Today he's in Africa. Sleep safely.
>>
>>
>>
>> >http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=50528
>> > the White House will not reveal the cost to taxpayers of the European

>> > vacation that first lady Michelle Obama and the president�s two


>> > daughters, Malia and Sasha, took last month.
>>
>> >>> Meanwhile Cut and Run Sarah can still see Russia from her trailer
>> >>> park
>> >>> after drinking a couple six packs of beer...the breakfast of
>> >>> Republicans.
>>
>> >>Except she never said any such thing.
>>
>> > It was a Saturday Night Live skit. But it's such a good quote. It
>> > does pretty much sum up most of her style of "logic".
>

> I am gay.


>
> Cut n Run Sarah isn't.
>
> TMT

We figured that out, thanks.

Gray Ghost

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"Pig Brick" <pigb...@pigbrick.com> wrote in news:4a5848ec$1@news.x-
privat.org:

>
>
> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:831d2b6f-b9f2-4a4f...@y7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 11, 2:33 am, "Pig Brick" <pigbr...@pigbrick.com> wrote:
>>> "Winston_Smith" <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:ctrf55hnpdbcgdvnl...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> > On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:09:42 -0700, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >>In article <0e5a3ff0-bbf2-4263-8aef-e200e9f036e5
>>> >>@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com>, too_many_to...@yahoo.com says...
>>>
>>> >>> You and your family can sleep sounder tonight knowing that your
>>> >>> President is doing his job instead of taking yet another taxpayer
>>> >>> funded vacation in Texas.
>>>
>>> >> Obama's is in Europe...
>>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//090710/481/7b658b9b7e3...
>>> Today he's in Africa. Sleep safely.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=50528
>>> > the White House will not reveal the cost to taxpayers of the European

>>> > vacation that first lady Michelle Obama and the president�s two


>>> > daughters, Malia and Sasha, took last month.
>>>
>>> >>> Meanwhile Cut and Run Sarah can still see Russia from her trailer
>>> >>> park after drinking a couple six packs of beer...the breakfast of
>>> >>> Republicans.
>>>
>>> >>Except she never said any such thing.
>>>
>>> > It was a Saturday Night Live skit. But it's such a good quote. It
>>> > does pretty much sum up most of her style of "logic".
>>
>> I am gay.
>>
>> Cut n Run Sarah isn't.
>>
>> TMT
>
> We figured that out, thanks.
>

First of all, what a shock! Second of all I think syphillis is rotting his
brain.

--
Always remember:

Bull Connor was a Democrat!

Hiccum Blurpaedius

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On Jul 6, 11:09 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Jul 6, 5:59 pm, George <s...@nos.pam> wrote:
>
> > thanks to Bush doing all the heavy lifting,  then Obie waltz's in and
> > sweeps up the crumbs.
>
> LOL...the only heavy lifting that Bush ever did was a six pack in each
> hand.
>
> TMT

I'll bet you didn't know they were empties.

Too_Many_Tools

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On Jul 11, 3:54 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:50:43 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools

>
> <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >LOL...it just drives the wingers crazy knowing what a great President
> >Obama is.
>
> >And how bad Bush really was.
>
> Bush was popular well into his third year.  Let's see how Obama looks
> in 2011.  
>
> By  then the far left of his D base will be seriously bitching about
> torture and the warS and the shortcomings of his giveaway programs.
> The middle-right of his base will be seriously bitching about the cost
> of his programs  - which will be becoming clear to them about then.  
>
> And the Rs will have rewitten their history and telling us once again
> about the joys of small govenment and expanded personal liberties.  
>
> Your boy Obama will be finding out what it's like in the jaws of a
> meat grinder.

Better try taking a look at this...

http://people-press.org/report/509/obama-at-100-days

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/02/opinion/polls/main576336.shtml

TMT

Pig Brick

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"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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Schlock Obama must be planning on building a solar powered time machine.

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