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Cdn-Firearms Digest        Friday, June 6 1997        Volume 01 : Number 874

In this issue:
        More Gun Control Debate on UNCJIN-L
        Allan Rock
        IPSC ON
        Re: Quebec and Ontario
        ConLib
        FBI
        NFA Merchandise Winners!
        Funds needed for court challenge!!
        Let's Lighten Up a Little
        Re: Minimum legal barrel length.
        re: World Police & Fire Games
        Re: more on Plan B...
        The O.F.A.H. and the Election
        laughter in the streets
        Reform gains in NB
        Reform gains in Ontario
        Reform gains in Ontario
        RE: What the Hell Happened?????
        Needing an FAC to get rid of rifle.

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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 10:18:32 -0600 (CST)
From: n...@juno.com (J. R LYNCH)
Subject: More Gun Control Debate on UNCJIN-L

After originally circulating some of the original UNCJIN-L discussion to
several lists I gave the advice of subscribing to monitor or participate
in the discussion. After that I left it up to each individual to follow
it on their own.

Here is some follow-up.

Here is tonight's entire list. It is all devoted to RKBA. I especially
like how one poster refers to any academic in favor of RKBA as an
"academic" (in quotes) yet everybody else (all of the usual suspects) get
no such treatment.

Godspeed,

J. R. Lynch  

[snip]

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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 21:25:39 -0600 (CST)
From: Paul R Christian <chrip...@unbc.edu>
Subject: Allan Rock

Has anyone else heard the rumour that Allan Rock may become the new
Minister of Defence? I heard it this evening on the news. Apparently
it's only a rumour and he dismissed it. I was happy that Young got
ousted, but now I'm not so sure. What's Rock going to do? Take away all
the soldier's guns or have the CF-18 pilots register their armaments?
It will be a sad day for the CF if he does become the new Minister.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 21:26:57 -0600 (CST)
From: kdeso...@cyberus.ca (Keith P. de Solla)
Subject: IPSC ON

New address for IPSC Ontario:

http://www.ipsc-ont.org/

 -keith

Keith P. de Solla, P.Eng  -  NFA Field Officer
kdeso...@cyberus.ca
http://www.cyberus.ca/~kdesolla/eohc.htm

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 21:28:13 -0600 (CST)
From: kdeso...@cyberus.ca (Keith P. de Solla)
Subject: Re: Quebec and Ontario

[snip]

hey, I resemble that remark.  :-)

 -keith
'stationed' in the People's Republic of Ottawa

Keith P. de Solla, P.Eng  -  NFA Field Officer
kdeso...@cyberus.ca
http://www.cyberus.ca/~kdesolla/eohc.htm

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 21:29:09 -0600 (CST)
From: kdeso...@cyberus.ca (Keith P. de Solla)
Subject: ConLib

An interesting quote from Peter Worthington (Ottawa Sun, June 5):

"Had Tories behaved like responsible conservatives, there'd have been
no need for a Reform party, which has kept the west in Canada and not
drifting off into frustrated separatism like Quebec."

 -keith

Keith P. de Solla, P.Eng  -  NFA Field Officer
kdeso...@cyberus.ca
http://www.cyberus.ca/~kdesolla/eohc.htm

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 21:29:58 -0600 (CST)
From: kdeso...@cyberus.ca (Keith P. de Solla)
Subject: FBI

from the Sun:

Tennessee - An FBI SWAT van was stolen along with M-16 rifles and tear
gas launchers.

 -keith

Keith P. de Solla, P.Eng  -  NFA Field Officer
kdeso...@cyberus.ca
http://www.cyberus.ca/~kdesolla/eohc.htm

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 21:31:05 -0600 (CST)
From: Remington Nevin <remington.ne...@utoronto.ca>
Subject: NFA Merchandise Winners!

The latest winners of the NFA Merchandise draw for subscribers
to the Cdn-Firearms-Digest are:

     Courtney Campbell
     John-Paul Swayze
     D. B. Lewis

Congratulations to all our winners! As usual, winners have a choice
between a five-colour NFA crest, or a five-colour NFA cap pin! Simply
reply by email with your choice of prize and a mailing address to which
your prize can be sent. Full contest details are posted at

     http://www.nfa.ca/subcribe/contest.html

Best of luck to everyone in our next draw in about two weeks time!

 ---
Remington Nevin
NFA Web Site Maintainer
remington.ne...@utoronto.ca

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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 21:32:22 -0600 (CST)
From: "ANDY VON BUSSE" <a...@afga.org>
Subject: Funds needed for court challenge!!

Dear Readers!!

I don't want to sound like a broken record... but the Alberta Fish and
Game Association (AFGA) truly needs your help in continuing the court
challenge on C-68.

We just got our May, 1997 bill from our lawyers, and it was for over
$21,000!!! That means we have spent over $52,000 to date on this case.
We know what happened in the last election, and that the courts are our
only real chance at overturning this bill now.

We desperately need any assistance that you, or you clubs can give us.
Many clubs have helped already... as and example, a small club in
Carberry, Manitoba donated $2,000 in the last week because they felt it
was necessary to continue the fight.

Talk to your club... get them to arrange a fund-raiser to help us
defeat this bill in the courts. I just had a 3 hour meeting with our
lawyers reviewing the factums that they will be filing next week, and
they have hit on many of the pertinent points raised in the Digest,
plus some issues that have not been discussed before.

The AFGA needs your assistance NOW. Get your club, your neighbors, and
your friends to send funds to:

Alberta Fish and Game Association
6924-104 St.
Edmonton, AB
T6H 2L7

Thanks in advance

Andy von Busse
President
Alberta Fish and Game Association

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 21:44:21 -0600 (CST)
From: Rick Young <ryo...@BIONET.BIO.DFO.CA>
Subject: Let's Lighten Up a Little

Two points:
1) First, I apologize to anyone who found my reference to Sha.. sorry,
Mary Clancy, offensive.  However, I don't feel it is any more
derogatory than refering to Cretien as Cretin, the Shawinigan
Strangler, or countless other terms of endearment that have graced the
pages of the CFD refering to Allan or Jean, used by both myself and
many others. Nor is it markedly worse than descriptions used in the
mainstream media - anyone remember Alan Fotheringham's description of
Mulroney - "The Chin That Walks Like a Man"? A little creative
journalism and the ability to express displeasure without becoming vile
are the things that have kept me reading CFD for over 800 issues.

Anyone that has had personal contact with this "lady" over the past
will recognize that this is about as nice a reference to her as can be
made, and is considerably more gracious than any name she has ever
attached to a gun owner. She is the very embodiment of everything that
is wrong with old style politicians - pompous, uncaring, arrogant,
ignorant and loathsome. Speaking as someone who is approaching four
axehandles width across the arse myself, now that she can go off into
the sunset and park her ample butt out of the public eye (at our
expense), we hopefully will never have to refer to her again by any
name. IMHO, THAT is almost worth the price of admission.

2) News article in the Halifax paper on Tuesday, I believe. The Thistle
Gun Club in New Glasgow, N.S. paid to have a brochure done up and
delivered by Canada Post to homes in the area. The cover featured
pictures of Roseanne Skoke (Liberal Discard), Francis LeBlanc (Liberal
Hopeful) and Adolph Hitler all with arms raised with the caption "All
Those in Favour of Firearm Registration, Raise Your Hand!" The inside
went on to explain the evils/pitfalls of C68. While the use of the
Hitler image might be offensive to the tender, the point, as a club
spokesman explained, was to grab the attention of the reader and peak
their interest enough to bother reading the facts contained therein.
Obviously, it worked.

LeBlanc was furious - particularly since, as it was reported, the flyer
was delivered on the same day as HIS campaign literature, which often
ended up as an insert to the gun club flyer.

Well done, Thistle - wish we had thought of it ourselves. We'll never
know whether it was instrumental in the outcome, but we do know that
Francis and Roseanne are both seeking alternate employment.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 21:45:47 -0600 (CST)
From: "David A. Tomlinson" <nfa...@telusplanet.net>
Subject: Re: Minimum legal barrel length.

Bill C-68 imposes a 105mm/4.14" limit, but C-68 is not yet in force.
C-68 backdates the limit to 14 Feb 95, and "grandfathers" guns and
people with registered guns below that limit where the gun has been
continuously registered and the owner has continuously owned
short-barrelled handguns since 14 Feb 95.

If you do not qualify under these "not-yet" rules, you can still buy a
shortie today, but will be asked to sign a note saying that you know it
will be confiscated after C-68 comes into force.

There is a good chance that the 14 Feb 95 date will be changed before
C-68 comes into force, so buy a really cheap shortie (or a .25 or a
.32) NOW, and it MAY "grandfather" you to own, buy, sell and possess
shorties, .25s, and .32s when C-68 does come into force -- if it EVER
does.  It may not.

Facts are hard to come by in this area, and untrustworthy...

Dave Tomlinson, NFA

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 21:48:21 -0600 (CST)
From: Ivan Runions <626...@UCDASVM1.ADMIN.UCALGARY.CA>
Subject: re: World Police & Fire Games

FROM: Ivan Runions

Do the competitors in these games get an exemption to the 10-round
magazine limit?    NO

I am the Range Master for the Police Action Pistol (PAP) event.  The PAP
event is essentially an IPSC match, and therefore the local Calgary IPSC
group is organizing this event.

The following paragraphs detail a preliminary meeting (I was not
present at the meeting, but the following was the basic flow):

Our dealings with the WP&FG group on the 10-round limit subject was
very enlightening to them.  It started with the shocked response of the
WP&FG parent organization in San Diego to the fact that NO exemptions
would be given, even to their members, ... policemen.  The local WP&FG
group then suggested that we provide magazines for the competitors to
use.  With 250 competitors needing roughly 5 magazines each at a VERY
conservative $50 per magazine leads to a total of $62,500... They
choked.

They then suggested we have a pool of common magazines that the
competitors would share.  We countered with the fact that these
magazines are dropped in the dirt/stepped on, etc during competition,
and to expect someone to travel around the world and use a dirty
magazine that would in all liklihood jam their guns was ludicrous.
They responded that there could be a group of volunteers cleaning the
magazines between shooters.  We responded that since the magazines are
"permanently converted to 10 rounds", the cleaning would be at minimum
extremely difficult, and perhaps even illegal, depending on how the
magazines were converted.

They were in shock at how ridiculous the laws were, and surprised that
we (the IPSC group) could operate under such restrictive conditions.
We welcomed them to Canada. (The people we were dealing with were all
Canadians, and all directly or indirectly associated with police
organizations).

We, (the IPSC group in Calgary) have made some friends... educated a
few people who should know better... but essentially made NO progress
in making things better for a competitive shooter in Canada.
Unfortunately we've lived in this country too long to expect
otherwise.

 -ivan-

 Ivan Runions
   iruni...@aoss.ucalgary.ca
   phone: (403) 220-4437

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 22:07:36 -0600 (CST)
From: belloni....@otooa.ENET.dec.com
Subject: Re: more on Plan B...

Gentlemen,

I do not have access to a news conference, so I am sending you this
note in the hopes of getting it posted or at least sent to Dave
Tomlinson.

I have read the discussions of the past few post election days with
respect of once again raising the specter of infiltrating the Liberal
party. I could not agree more with the replies that have raised the
foolhardiness of this issue.

Simply forget it. Rather than trying to pursue this hopeless act we
should focus our sights on how to seriously challenge the actual
implementation of Bill C-68.  The only way to accomplish this is via
the legal system. And to be able to do that we need the old hard cash.

There is apparently 3 to 7 million recreational firearms owners in
Canada. If say one million contributed $100 each or 2 million
contributed $50 each, the NFA would have 100 million dollars or legal
services. In light of what we are about to lose and what the new
regulations will cost the individual firearms owner, the donation
amount pales in comparison. You get the picture, this is potentialy an
immense amount of cash that would fund a very serious legal challenge.

I strongly recommend an information/donation campaign including TV
commercials in order to raise the general awareness and associated cash
contributions from the recreational firearms community.

Yours truly

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 22:04:30 -0600 (CST)
From: Gord Gallant <gord_gall...@oncomdis.on.ca>
Subject: The O.F.A.H. and the Election

I am somewhat dismayed at the recent posts regarding the O.F.A.H. and
the election results.

Perhaps some of those casting stones may not know that the O.F.A.H.,
like its sister organizations across Canada ( BC Wildlife Fed, Alta
Fish & Game Assoc, Sask Wildlife, Manitoba Wildlife, etc.) are
charitable conservation organizations that CANNOT endorse or visibly
support any political party or candidate without jeopardizing that
charitable status, and thus jeopardizing the benefitial work we all do
for fish and wildlife habitat, and recreational activities dependent on
a healthy environment.

We can (and did) provide our members with all parties positions on a
number of issues that affect anglers and hunters, including gun
control, and provided detailled information on these party positions in
the members-only insert section in Ontario Out-of-Doors Magazine for
the March, April, May, and June editions.

Every O.F.A.H. member household got 2 different bumper stickers, each
with the country-wide message "Remember Bill C-68 when you vote", and
thousands more were sold or given away on request.

The O.F.A.H. also produced election signs and shipped thousands across
the province.

Many O.F.A.H. members worked long and hard during the election campaign
for candidates that supported their interests.  They worked, not as
O.F.A.H.  members, but as informed (as a result of O.F.A.H.
information) citizens who wanted to take an active role.

Yes, I know the Reform did not win a seat in Ontario, despite all
that,  but the Reform Party did increase its share of the popular vote
in Ontario in almost all the ridings, as compared to the last
election.

I am sure that the Reform Party will not abandon opponents of Bill C-68
in Ontario and other provinces and will continue to fight on.

Likewise, the O.F.A.H. will continue to fight this legislation and other
federal initiatives that threaten our angling and hunting heritage.

Finally, I would be willing to continue (within reason) to discuss this
thread privately with any subcriber, but I really do not think that
this needs to go much further in Cdn-Firearms.

Thanks, Skeeter, for the indulgence.

 ----- End Included Message -----

Skeeter (the cdn-firearms digest editor/moderator), responds with:

Not a problem, Gord.  As moderator, my main concern is that we don't
get into a sniping match and start blaming each other for what happened
or did not happen in this election.  

The mechanics of voting patterns are very complex.  The OFAH was just
one of the groups working in this election Unless the votes were very
close, the stand taken by the OFAH would have made little difference.
Remember that the majority of Ontario voters were not voting on C-68.
Other issues are more important to them.  A (important) minority will
vote on C-68 as a issue, and some of those people would be affected by
the OFAH's position, but unless the vote was close, the difference would
not have been, effectively, none.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 22:09:17 -0600 (CST)
From: Norm Keller <nkel...@mb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: laughter in the streets

There's so much comedy on television.  Does that cause comedy
in the streets?
        -- Dick Cavett, mocking the TV-violence debate

 --
"Beware, beware, lest ye offend any heart."

                                Baha'u'llah

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 22:11:23 -0600 (CST)
From: Robert <co...@nbnet.nb.ca>
Subject: Reform gains in NB

In a recent digest, Skeeter pointed out that Reform had done reasonably
well in New Brunswick.  True.

Unfortunately, one of his vote tallies was incorrect.  In Fundy Royal,
Roger Brown of Reform was in third place, only 956 votes behind the
second place LIBERAL, Paul Zed.

[The tally was correct, but the attribution was wrong.  =-]  Oops!
 -- Skeeter]

The Firearms Act was a major factor in the defeat of 6 out of 9
Liberals in the province.  One of the three Liberals re-elected voted
AGAINST C-68, and was re-elected in Miramichi.  The vote in Fredericton
was split between Reform and the Conservatives, allowing the Liberal
candidate to win.  Only the Moncton Liberal won an easy, clear
majority.

Unfortunately for Reform, Atlantic Canadians distrust their views on
devolution of powers and equalization payments.  They still might have
elected members, but once the Conservatives came out against C-68, most
shooters went with them.  Another factor was the fact that Elsie Wayne,
Conservative from Saint John, did fight and vote against C-68 in
Parliament (unlike Charest).

Maybe next time.

Colpy

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 22:15:11 -0600 (CST)
From: laurie.john...@sait.ab.ca
Subject: Reform gains in Ontario

Well, we may indeed have "won the battle but lost the war" in Ontario;
but here's a couple of thoughts:

        1. Any election brings to the fore a multitude of issues,
           what we in the communications biz. call "noise".

        2. While gun-owner control was a major issue in the West,
           perhaps it was lost in the noise of other battles?

        3. We now have a wonderful window through which to project
           our concerns and a party in opposition honour-bound to
           defend our cause!

        4. Let's go forth and sell our agenda with a  "threat to
           democracy" spin. The "enemy" has taken several heavy hits
           and is vulnerable!

        5. Fight-on!

Laurence R. Johnson

SAIT, Calgary, Alberta

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 22:18:31 -0600 (CST)
From: "Barry Glasgow" <glas...@nortel.ca>
Subject: Reform gains in Ontario

Charles Stansfield writes;
[snip]

Come on Charles, lighten up on the generalizations.  For one thing, the
Liberals didn't get a ringing endorsement in a number of Ontario
ridings.  The split right-wing vote was the deciding factor in most of
those cases.

For another, many older voters I talked to were taken in by Chretien
and Charest's fear-mongering with repeated accusations against Manning
for "extremism", "bigotry" and "divisiveness".

That the media failed to slam-dunk these s.o.b.'s for this (as they
most assuredly would have for Reform) is the most revealing part of
this sordid tale.

Barry Glasgow
Woodlawn, Ont.

 ----- End Included Message -----

Skeeter (the cdn-firearms digest editor/moderator), responds with:

Check out the column by Michael Coren at
http://www.canoe.ca/Columnists/fp_coren.html

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 22:26:44 -0600 (CST)
From: UNIGLOBE Donaldson Travel <donal...@donaldson-travel.com>
Subject: RE: What the Hell Happened?????

The "divided right" notion is false. It assumes that at the basic level
Reform and the Partie Charest are interchangable. This assumption
ignores fundamental differences between Reform and the Tories, and
ignores the similarities between the Liberal and PC parties.

I assure you that Reform and the PCs have little in common. The former
is a grassroots, democratic, individualistic party; the latter is an
old-line, top down, unprincipled variant of the Liberals.

Assumed is that in the absence of a PC candidate in any of these
ridings, PC supporters would vote Reform. I doubt it. According to
polls, many Charest fans would vote Liberal in the absence of a PC
candidate. Many PC types chose the Liberals as their second
preference.  In the reverse, if a riding had no Reform candidate, can
it be certain that the Reformers would vote PC? I suspect many of those
would not vote at all. So it is false to assume that it would have
worked out differently if either the PC candidate or the Reformer was
absent in a particular riding.

Attempts to bring PCs into Reform have not had much success here. More
success has been had with former NDs and Liberals, in my experience.

Reform and the PCs are fundamentally different. However, for those who
might change their minds, Reform should keep the door open and sell
memberships to disaffected Charestistes.

 -----------------------------
Bill Donaldson
Candidate for Cambridge
1 Brant Road North,
Cambridge  ON  N1S 2V9
519-740-6252

[I must agree.  I have been involved for quite a while now and can
safely say that while they "right should unite", it is unlikely to
happen by merging the PC and Reform parties.  There are two many major
and fundamental differences.  Tories may come to Reform, but the two
parties can't merge and survive.  

[Anyway, all of these posts have little to do with firearm laws
in Canada.  I felt I needed to allow more than usual because we
just had a federal election, but let's try to get things back on
track.  -- Skeeter]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 22:31:45 -0600 (CST)
From: "Barry Glasgow" <glas...@nortel.ca>
Subject: Needing an FAC to get rid of rifle.

 To: canadian.firea...@justice.x400.gc.ca

To the Canadian Firearms Centre,

A buddy of mine called me and wanted to know how to go about
selling a rifle he owned.  He had bought the rifle (a .22)
several years ago when he had an FAC but with all the legislative
hassles and costs looming on the horizon, he decided it wasn't
worth keeping a rifle he hardly uses so he decided to sell it.

The local firearms officer told him that since his FAC had
expired, he must get another before he can sell the rifle.
Firearms Safety course costs plus the FAC run between $100-200.
The officer hinted that it might be easier to find a friend whom
he trusted to buy the rifle and let on that it was done before
C-68 was enacted.

There are a number of problems with this scenario;

 - legislation forcing a lawfull gun owner to get rid of his gun

 - needing an acquisition certificate to get rid of a gun

 - needing a safety course to get rid of a gun that has been safely
  owned for years

 - illegally selling a gun is financially more attractive than
  obeying the law

 - my buying the gun from him would create two criminals - me and him

 - the costs and hassles of registration practically guarantees
  that people will not register and will operate illegally      

 - no police officer to whom I've spoken supports the proposed system

Can you tell me if the firearms officer is correct on the part about
needing an FAC to sell a legally owned rifle ?

If this is true, what sort of policy makers does the Canadian Firearms
Centre have working for it and can we expect more of the same when the
regulations for the implementation of C-68 start flowing out of there
in the next while ?

Looking forward to a prompt response on this matter,

Barry Glasgow
Woodlawn, Ontario

 ----- End Included Message -----

Skeeter (the cdn-firearms digest editor/moderator), responds with:

The CC of C reads that one must not acquire a firearm without an FAC
and that one must believe the _buyer_ has an FAC before selling to the
buyer.  There is nothing saying a seller must get an FAC to sell rifles
already legally possessed.

------------------------------

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     N.F.A. memberships:  families: $40;  seniors: $20;
  individuals: $30;  businesses: $50.  Included are eleven
  issues of the N.F.A. newsletter Point Blank, and Canadian
  Outdoor Publications magazines like Hunting and Shooting.
     Add just $4.75 per person for $2,000,000 insurance!
   Clubs: get associate memberships for just $2 per member
    ($40 minimum) and members will be still eligible for
     $2,000,000 liability insurance for just $4.75 each!

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