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Jan 5, 2010, 12:49:14 AM1/5/10
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By BEN EVANS, Associated Press Writer Ben Evans, Associated Press
Writer � 1 hr 20 mins ago
WASHINGTON � All but one of the Washington staffers for Rep. Parker
Griffith resigned on Monday in protest of the Alabama congressman's
decision to switch from the Democratic to the Republican Party.

In a sharply worded statement, Griffith's former chief of staff,
Sharon Wheeler, called the freshman congressman's switch a "mistake"
that goes against the interests of his district, which relies heavily
on federal funding for defense and aerospace jobs.

"We cannot in good conscience continue working for him," Wheeler said.
"We do not know what the future holds, but we are taking a leap of
faith with the belief we will soon find ourselves in the employment of
principled public officials."

Griffith's legislative aides, interns and other junior staffers also
quit, joining his former spokesman, Sean Magers, who had already
announced he was leaving. The resignations left Griffith with just one
staffer in his Washington office, a scheduler. A handful of employees
remained at his district offices in Alabama, said Gene Tackett, his
district director.

In a statement, Griffith said the resignations were expected. He said
all of his offices remain open and that he is confident he can fill
the vacancies by Jan. 12, when Congress reconvenes after the holidays.

"It is an unfortunate fact that any time a change like this occurs
partisanship becomes an issue as it has in this case," Griffith said.
"The staff members who have resigned have served this district
diligently and I wish them well in their future endeavors."

Griffith, a former state senator, narrowly won the seat last year and
announced his party switch on Dec. 22, saying he could no longer
support the Democratic agenda on health care and other issues.

Wheeler said Griffith made a "well-intentioned but misguided"
decision. She said he abandoned the legacy of conservative Democratic
leadership in the north Alabama district, which includes Huntsville


Another scum bag republican uses Democratic money to win an election
and then changes party, screwing EVERYONE out of tax dollars. HE
fucking lied to get re-elected.

Bill Smith

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Jan 5, 2010, 1:48:20 AM1/5/10
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On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:49:14 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

But it's okay when a Republican goes Democrat?

Bill Smith


Lookout

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Jan 5, 2010, 1:02:12 PM1/5/10
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On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:48:20 -0800, Bill Smith <squa...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Let's try this again. He did it JUST AFTER the election. He used the
money provided to ALL incumbents from the party to run and THEN
switched sides.

Show me a dem who did the same thing and he's just as wrong.
So show me one, please.

RD (The Sandman)

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Jan 7, 2010, 1:26:38 PM1/7/10
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Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:sjk5k5p8c0mm7qmlg...@4ax.com:

> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100104/ap_on_go_co/us_congress_party_switc
> h;_ylt=Al5yEZlubZbOz1yHsOiWpsGs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNzNTMwNWlhBGFzc2V0A2FwLz
> IwMTAwMTA0L3VzX2NvbmdyZXNzX3BhcnR5X3N3aXRjaARjY29kZQNtb3N0cG9wdWxhcgRjc
> G9zAzYEcG9zAzMEcHQDaG9tZV9jb2tlBHNlYwN5bl9oZWFkbGluZV9saXN0BHNsawNzdGFm
> ZnF1aXRzYWY-

>
> By BEN EVANS, Associated Press Writer Ben Evans, Associated Press
> Writer � 1 hr 20 mins ago
> WASHINGTON � All but one of the Washington staffers for Rep. Parker
> Griffith resigned on Monday in protest of the Alabama congressman's
> decision to switch from the Democratic to the Republican Party.
>
> In a sharply worded statement, Griffith's former chief of staff,
> Sharon Wheeler, called the freshman congressman's switch a "mistake"
> that goes against the interests of his district, which relies heavily
> on federal funding for defense and aerospace jobs.


IOW, they only care about the Democratic Party in order to get federal
funding for defense and aerospace jobs. Interesting....



> "We cannot in good conscience continue working for him," Wheeler said.
> "We do not know what the future holds, but we are taking a leap of
> faith with the belief we will soon find ourselves in the employment of
> principled public officials."

Apparently, changing parties on principle wasn't principled enough. ;)


--
Sleep well tonight,

RD (The Sandman)

Let's see if I have this healthcare thingy right. Congress is to pass
a plan written by a committee whose head has said he doesn't understand
it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who
hasn't read it, with funding administered by a Treasury chief who didn't
pay his taxes because he didn't understand TurboTax, overseen by an obese
Surgeon General and financed by a country that's nearly broke.
What could possibly go wrong?

Matt

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Jan 7, 2010, 6:20:51 PM1/7/10
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On Jan 7, 11:26 am, "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)
@comcast.net> wrote:
> Lookout <mrLook...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:sjk5k5p8c0mm7qmlg...@4ax.com:

>
>
>
>
>
> >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100104/ap_on_go_co/us_congress_party_switc
> > h;_ylt=Al5yEZlubZbOz1yHsOiWpsGs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNzNTMwNWlhBGFzc2V0A2FwLz
> > IwMTAwMTA0L3VzX2NvbmdyZXNzX3BhcnR5X3N3aXRjaARjY29kZQNtb3N0cG9wdWxhcgRjc
> > G9zAzYEcG9zAzMEcHQDaG9tZV9jb2tlBHNlYwN5bl9oZWFkbGluZV9saXN0BHNsawNzdGFm
> > ZnF1aXRzYWY-
>
> > By BEN EVANS, Associated Press Writer Ben Evans, Associated Press
> > Writer – 1 hr 20 mins ago
> > WASHINGTON – All but one of the Washington staffers for Rep. Parker
> > Griffith resigned on Monday in protest of the Alabama congressman's
> > decision to switch from the Democratic to the Republican Party.
>
> > In a sharply worded statement, Griffith's former chief of staff,
> > Sharon Wheeler, called the freshman congressman's switch a "mistake"
> > that goes against the interests of his district, which relies heavily
> > on federal funding for defense and aerospace jobs.
>
> IOW, they only care about the Democratic Party in order to get federal
> funding for defense and aerospace jobs.  Interesting....
>
> > "We cannot in good conscience continue working for him," Wheeler said.
> > "We do not know what the future holds, but we are taking a leap of
> > faith with the belief we will soon find ourselves in the employment of
> > principled public officials."
>
> Apparently, changing parties on principle wasn't principled enough.  ;)

When a local Congresscritter (state) changed from Republican to
Democrat in
mid-term, I was just as annoyed at him and refused to vote for him. If
you are
elected to serve, you serve. When your term is up, if you want to
change, that's
fine with me.

Matt

Lookout

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Jan 8, 2010, 12:25:48 AM1/8/10
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On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 12:26:38 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:

>Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:sjk5k5p8c0mm7qmlg...@4ax.com:
>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100104/ap_on_go_co/us_congress_party_switc
>> h;_ylt=Al5yEZlubZbOz1yHsOiWpsGs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNzNTMwNWlhBGFzc2V0A2FwLz
>> IwMTAwMTA0L3VzX2NvbmdyZXNzX3BhcnR5X3N3aXRjaARjY29kZQNtb3N0cG9wdWxhcgRjc
>> G9zAzYEcG9zAzMEcHQDaG9tZV9jb2tlBHNlYwN5bl9oZWFkbGluZV9saXN0BHNsawNzdGFm
>> ZnF1aXRzYWY-
>>
>> By BEN EVANS, Associated Press Writer Ben Evans, Associated Press
>> Writer � 1 hr 20 mins ago
>> WASHINGTON � All but one of the Washington staffers for Rep. Parker
>> Griffith resigned on Monday in protest of the Alabama congressman's
>> decision to switch from the Democratic to the Republican Party.
>>
>> In a sharply worded statement, Griffith's former chief of staff,
>> Sharon Wheeler, called the freshman congressman's switch a "mistake"
>> that goes against the interests of his district, which relies heavily
>> on federal funding for defense and aerospace jobs.
>
>
>IOW, they only care about the Democratic Party in order to get federal
>funding for defense and aerospace jobs. Interesting....

Nope. You're wrong again. The quit because he lying about who he WAS.


>
>> "We cannot in good conscience continue working for him," Wheeler said.
>> "We do not know what the future holds, but we are taking a leap of
>> faith with the belief we will soon find ourselves in the employment of
>> principled public officials."
>
>Apparently, changing parties on principle wasn't principled enough. ;)

And wrong again. He was LYING as a dem.

edi...@netpath.net

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Jan 8, 2010, 12:33:27 AM1/8/10
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So what? In the current job market, he can find all the QUALIFIED new
staff he wants - tomorrow.

http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!

No-bammer

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Jan 8, 2010, 11:51:12 AM1/8/10
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Lookout wrote:

>>>Writer � 1 hr 20 mins ago
>>>WASHINGTON � All but one of the Washington staffers for Rep. Parker

There are several that switched sides but didn't change parties, They
are called RINOs.

RD (The Sandman)

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Jan 8, 2010, 12:12:09 PM1/8/10
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Matt <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote in
news:0200c28e-93ef-46da...@o28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:

> On Jan 7, 11:26�am, "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)
> @comcast.net> wrote:
>> Lookout <mrLook...@yahoo.com> wrote

>> innews:sjk5k5p8c0mm7qmlgqunom7drb5tn7
> hd...@4ax.com:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100104/ap_on_go_co/us_congress_party_swi
>> >tc
>> > h;_ylt=Al5yEZlubZbOz1yHsOiWpsGs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNzNTMwNWlhBGFzc2V0A2
> FwLz
>> > IwMTAwMTA0L3VzX2NvbmdyZXNzX3BhcnR5X3N3aXRjaARjY29kZQNtb3N0cG9wdWxhcg
>> > Rjc
>> > G9zAzYEcG9zAzMEcHQDaG9tZV9jb2tlBHNlYwN5bl9oZWFkbGluZV9saXN0BHNsawNzd
>> > GFm ZnF1aXRzYWY-


>>
>> > By BEN EVANS, Associated Press Writer Ben Evans, Associated Press
>> > Writer � 1 hr 20 mins ago
>> > WASHINGTON � All but one of the Washington staffers for Rep. Parker
>> > Griffith resigned on Monday in protest of the Alabama congressman's
>> > decision to switch from the Democratic to the Republican Party.
>>
>> > In a sharply worded statement, Griffith's former chief of staff,
>> > Sharon Wheeler, called the freshman congressman's switch a
>> > "mistake" that goes against the interests of his district, which
>> > relies heavily on federal funding for defense and aerospace jobs.
>>
>> IOW, they only care about the Democratic Party in order to get
>> federal funding for defense and aerospace jobs. �Interesting....
>>
>> > "We cannot in good conscience continue working for him," Wheeler
>> > said. "We do not know what the future holds, but we are taking a
>> > leap of faith with the belief we will soon find ourselves in the
>> > employment of principled public officials."
>>
>> Apparently, changing parties on principle wasn't principled enough.
>> �;)
>
> When a local Congresscritter (state) changed from Republican to
> Democrat in
> mid-term, I was just as annoyed at him and refused to vote for him. If
> you are
> elected to serve, you serve.

Excuse me, I don't think he left the legislature....he simply changed his
god.

When your term is up, if you want to
> change, that's
> fine with me.

Well, I'm glad that you are open to free choice even if it has to be
under your terms. ;)

RD (The Sandman)

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Jan 8, 2010, 12:13:19 PM1/8/10
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Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:kdgdk5152826s2vm1...@4ax.com:

> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 12:26:38 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>news:sjk5k5p8c0mm7qmlg...@4ax.com:
>>
>>>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100104/ap_on_go_co/us_congress_party_switc
>>> h;_ylt=Al5yEZlubZbOz1yHsOiWpsGs0NUE;
_ylu=X3oDMTNzNTMwNWlhBGFzc2V0A2FwLz
>>>
IwMTAwMTA0L3VzX2NvbmdyZXNzX3BhcnR5X3N3aXRjaARjY29kZQNtb3N0cG9wdWxhcgRjc
>>>
G9zAzYEcG9zAzMEcHQDaG9tZV9jb2tlBHNlYwN5bl9oZWFkbGluZV9saXN0BHNsawNzdGFm
>>> ZnF1aXRzYWY-
>>>
>>> By BEN EVANS, Associated Press Writer Ben Evans, Associated Press
>>> Writer � 1 hr 20 mins ago
>>> WASHINGTON � All but one of the Washington staffers for Rep. Parker
>>> Griffith resigned on Monday in protest of the Alabama congressman's
>>> decision to switch from the Democratic to the Republican Party.
>>>
>>> In a sharply worded statement, Griffith's former chief of staff,
>>> Sharon Wheeler, called the freshman congressman's switch a "mistake"
>>> that goes against the interests of his district, which relies heavily
>>> on federal funding for defense and aerospace jobs.
>>
>>
>>IOW, they only care about the Democratic Party in order to get federal
>>funding for defense and aerospace jobs. Interesting....
>
> Nope. You're wrong again. The quit because he lying about who he WAS.

Damn, that isn't what your own cite states directly above.



>>> "We cannot in good conscience continue working for him," Wheeler
said.
>>> "We do not know what the future holds, but we are taking a leap of
>>> faith with the belief we will soon find ourselves in the employment
of
>>> principled public officials."
>>
>>Apparently, changing parties on principle wasn't principled enough. ;)
>
> And wrong again. He was LYING as a dem.

So he changed so he could be honest. Would you have preferred that he
would have kept lying?

Lookout

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Jan 8, 2010, 3:26:37 PM1/8/10
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On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 11:13:19 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:

An honest man would have done it BEFORE the election.
But he's from Alabama AND he's a politician so it's about what I
expect.

RD (The Sandman)

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Jan 8, 2010, 4:54:49 PM1/8/10
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Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:l65fk51bg446ul9pf...@4ax.com:

That works.

Matt

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Jan 8, 2010, 7:01:48 PM1/8/10
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On Jan 8, 10:12 am, "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)
@comcast.net> wrote:

> Matt <matttel...@sprynet.com> wrote innews:0200c28e-93ef-46da...@o28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 7, 11:26 am, "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)
> > @comcast.net> wrote:
> >> Lookout <mrLook...@yahoo.com> wrote
> >> innews:sjk5k5p8c0mm7qmlgqunom7drb5tn7
> > h...@4ax.com:

Exactly.

>
>  When your term is up, if you want to
>
> > change, that's
> > fine with me.
>
> Well, I'm glad that you are open to free choice even if it has to be
> under your terms.  ;)

No, he was elected under a given set of rules, and has decided they
don't
apply to him. I truly hope they vote the idiot out, as they did the
ones here
in Colorado (Ben Campbell comes to mind).

Matt

RD (The Sandman)

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Jan 8, 2010, 7:19:31 PM1/8/10
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Matt <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote in
news:a7721824-b29d-4700...@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:

> On Jan 8, 10:12�am, "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)
> @comcast.net> wrote:
>> Matt <matttel...@sprynet.com> wrote

>> innews:0200c28e-93ef-46da-99ba-5d7c5e
> fea...@o28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:


>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 7, 11:26�am, "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)
>> > @comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> Lookout <mrLook...@yahoo.com> wrote
>> >> innews:sjk5k5p8c0mm7qmlgqunom7drb5tn7
>> > h...@4ax.com:
>>
>> >> >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100104/ap_on_go_co/us_congress_party_
>> >> >swi tc
>> >> > h;_ylt=Al5yEZlubZbOz1yHsOiWpsGs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNzNTMwNWlhBGFzc2V
> 0A2
>> > FwLz
>> >> > IwMTAwMTA0L3VzX2NvbmdyZXNzX3BhcnR5X3N3aXRjaARjY29kZQNtb3N0cG9wdWx
>> >> > hcg Rjc
>> >> > G9zAzYEcG9zAzMEcHQDaG9tZV9jb2tlBHNlYwN5bl9oZWFkbGluZV9saXN0BHNsaw

>> >> > Nzd GFm ZnF1aXRzYWY-

Perhaps, they will. Perhaps, they won't. Be a different set of voters
next time.

Lookout

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On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:54:49 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:

I guess I didn't explain myself clearly the first time. Thanks for
hanging in there till I got it right.

Lookout

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Jan 8, 2010, 7:44:42 PM1/8/10
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The local polls say he will win easily.

RD (The Sandman)

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Jan 9, 2010, 12:29:58 PM1/9/10
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Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:7bkfk51pmn3gepg53...@4ax.com:

Then he made the right choice for himself....assuming he wishes to remain
a Congressman.

Lookout

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Jan 10, 2010, 2:43:03 PM1/10/10
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On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:29:58 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:

I won't deny that at all.
But still wrong to wait until AFTER the election. The party should
have the right to terminate ALL Congressional privileges unless he
completes a term.

RD (The Sandman)

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Jan 10, 2010, 3:46:40 PM1/10/10
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Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:6cbkk5tm0cnriuoli...@4ax.com:

Then don't vote for him next time. Or try to get your state to perform a
recall election.

tankfixer

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Jan 10, 2010, 4:16:16 PM1/10/10
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In article <6cbkk5tm0cnriuoli...@4ax.com>,
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...
> >>>>> >> > Press Writer ? 1 hr 20 mins ago
> >>>>> >> > WASHINGTON ? All but one of the Washington staffers for Rep.

You know what that means don't you ?
59 Senate seats...

Lookout

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Jan 10, 2010, 4:42:49 PM1/10/10
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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 14:46:40 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:

We don't have recall here. The politicians won't allow it.

Lookout

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Jan 10, 2010, 4:43:28 PM1/10/10
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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:16:16 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Uhh..he's in the House and not the Senate.

tankfixer

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Jan 10, 2010, 8:58:06 PM1/10/10
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In article <efikk5tgmde1rh4k8...@4ax.com>,
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...

Why are you willing to apply your theory to only one part of elected
goevernment..

You should be championing the idea for any politician who switches
parties after an election..

Or would that require more ethics than you can manage ?

Lookout

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Jan 10, 2010, 11:47:23 PM1/10/10
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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:58:06 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Remind me when the last time was a republican has changed to a dem
right after an election.

>
>Or would that require more ethics than you can manage ?

Care to make an ass of yourself again?

tankfixer

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Jan 11, 2010, 10:25:49 AM1/11/10
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In article <t7blk5d25oehqu80e...@4ax.com>,

Specter

Lookout

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On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 07:25:49 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

He's doing it JUST BEFORE his next election in 2010, not JUST AFTER
his last.

You're one ignorant son of a bitch, aren't you?

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RD (The Sandman)

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Zombywoof <fish...@live.com> wrote in
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> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 14:46:40 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"


> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>news:6cbkk5tm0cnriuoli...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:29:58 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
>>> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>news:7bkfk51pmn3gepg53...@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:19:31 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
>>>>> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Matt <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote in
>>>>>>news:a7721824-b29d-4700...@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.

>>>>>>co m:

> Obviously the people who feel this way didn't vote for "him" in the
> first place. They voted for the "Party" member. All-in-all a fairly
> shitty reason to vote for any candidate in my book.

Yep.

--
Sleep well tonight, RD (The Sandman)

Let's see if I have this healthcare thingy right. Congress is to pass
a plan written by a committee whose head has said he doesn't understand

it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it or allowed bipartisan input,
signed by a president who hasn't read it or provided the public with the
C-Span overview of the plan or the process, with funding administered by

Ron M

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Jan 11, 2010, 6:01:11 PM1/11/10
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On Jan 8, 3:26 pm, Lookout <mrLook...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 11:13:19 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
>
>
>
>
>
> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
> >Lookout <mrLook...@yahoo.com> wrote in

> >news:kdgdk5152826s2vm1...@4ax.com:
>
> >> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 12:26:38 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
> >> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >>>Lookout <mrLook...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> expect.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Well then there Lookout, seeing as how you believe that Alabamians
can't be honest why don't you do the state a favor and Get the Fuck
out!! We don't want you wasting good AL air. I'm sure all the other
Alabamians would appreciate it as much as I.

Lookout

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Jan 11, 2010, 6:22:30 PM1/11/10
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On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:01:21 -0500, Zombywoof <fish...@live.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:43:03 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:

>So your assumption is that people only vote for a Party and not for a
>person? I think that is erroneous & flawed.

In Alabama? 90% without a doubt. I've lived here for 29 years and I
can assure you that's damn close.

>If the area depends on relies heavily on federal funding for defense
>and aerospace jobs I would suspect that a Republican Representative
>would be more inclined to look out for their interests then a
>Democratic one, at least that is the way it works in my area.
>
>Additionally, he was surprised at how close of a contest his last
>election was. This shows that given the prospect of voters growing
>tired with the inactions of the whole "Hopey Changey" thing might just
>get him voted out of office next election through no fault of his own.

The black vote. Overall in Alabama McCain got 61% of the vote. Last
election bush got 60% and it's been that way for the republicans since
Reagan's second term.

>Again; if his goal is to not only stay in office, but to effectively
>represent the people in his District his decision to do what will keep
>him in office was not only the right one for him, but his constituents
>as well.
>
>Now perhaps what the "Right" thing to do would be for the Republican
>Party to reimburse the Democratic Party for the funds they expended on
>his half. However, that once again assumes that the majority of
>people only vote for the "Party" and not what the person running for
>election represents.
>
>In the long-run I actually think his staffers decision was great for
>him. It showed him where their loyalties truly lay, and it wasn't
>with him, the constituents and their ideals.
>
>While Dixecrats are not once what they were in either name or even
>existence; Southern Democrats have always been rather Conservative at
>their core and more closely aligned with "true" Republican ideals then
>Democrats, especially under the "Progressive" moniker.

Agreed.

But we we're talking about is timing. Leaving just after an election
is pure bullshit.

Lookout

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Jan 11, 2010, 6:26:09 PM1/11/10
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On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:02:58 -0500, Zombywoof <fish...@live.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 14:46:40 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"


><rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>news:6cbkk5tm0cnriuoli...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:29:58 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
>>> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>news:7bkfk51pmn3gepg53...@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:19:31 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
>>>>> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Matt <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote in
>>>>>>news:a7721824-b29d-4700...@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.co
>>>>>>m:
>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On Jan 8, 10:12�ソスam, "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)


>>>>>>> @comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Matt <matttel...@sprynet.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> innews:0200c28e-93ef-46da-99ba-5d7c5e
>>>>>>> fea...@o28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> > On Jan 7, 11:26�ソスam, "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)


>>>>>>>> > @comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >> Lookout <mrLook...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> >> innews:sjk5k5p8c0mm7qmlgqunom7drb5tn7
>>>>>>>> > h...@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100104/ap_on_go_co/us_congress_party_
>>>>>>>> >> >swi tc
>>>>>>>> >> > h;_ylt=Al5yEZlubZbOz1yHsOiWpsGs0NUE;
>>>>_ylu=X3oDMTNzNTMwNWlhBGFzc2V
>>>>>>> 0A2
>>>>>>>> > FwLz
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>IwMTAwMTA0L3VzX2NvbmdyZXNzX3BhcnR5X3N3aXRjaARjY29kZQNtb3N0cG9wdWx
>>>>>>>> >> > hcg Rjc
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>G9zAzYEcG9zAzMEcHQDaG9tZV9jb2tlBHNlYwN5bl9oZWFkbGluZV9saXN0BHNsaw
>>>>>>>> >> > Nzd GFm ZnF1aXRzYWY-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >> > By BEN EVANS, Associated Press Writer Ben Evans, Associated

>>>>>>>> >> > Press Writer �ソス 1 hr 20 mins ago
>>>>>>>> >> > WASHINGTON �ソス All but one of the Washington staffers for Rep.


>>>>>>>> >> > Parke
>>>>>>> r
>>>>>>>> >> > Griffith resigned on Monday in protest of the Alabama
>>>>>>>> >> > congressman's decision to switch from the Democratic to the
>>>>>>>> >> > Republican Party.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >> > In a sharply worded statement, Griffith's former chief of
>>>>staff,
>>>>>>>> >> > Sharon Wheeler, called the freshman congressman's switch a
>>>>>>>> >> > "mistake" that goes against the interests of his district,
>>>>which
>>>>>>>> >> > relies heavily on federal funding for defense and aerospace
>>>>>>>> >> > jobs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >> IOW, they only care about the Democratic Party in order to get
>>>>>>>> >> federal funding for defense and aerospace jobs.

>>>>>>>> >> �ソスInteresting....

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >> > "We cannot in good conscience continue working for him,"
>>>>Wheeler
>>>>>>>> >> > said. "We do not know what the future holds, but we are
>>>>>>>> >> > taking
>>>>a
>>>>>>>> >> > leap of faith with the belief we will soon find ourselves in
>>>>the
>>>>>>>> >> > employment of principled public officials."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >> Apparently, changing parties on principle wasn't principled

>>>>>>>> >> enough. �ソス;)


>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > When a local Congresscritter (state) changed from Republican to
>>>>>>>> > Democrat in
>>>>>>>> > mid-term, I was just as annoyed at him and refused to vote for
>>>>him.
>>>>>>>> > If you are
>>>>>>>> > elected to serve, you serve.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Excuse me, I don't think he left the legislature....he simply
>>>>changed
>>>>>>>> his god.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Exactly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> �ソスWhen your term is up, if you want to


>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > change, that's
>>>>>>>> > fine with me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, I'm glad that you are open to free choice even if it has to

>>>>>>>> be under your terms. �ソス;)


>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, he was elected under a given set of rules, and has decided
>>>>>>> they don't
>>>>>>> apply to him. I truly hope they vote the idiot out, as they did
>>>>>>> the ones here
>>>>>>> in Colorado (Ben Campbell comes to mind).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Perhaps, they will. Perhaps, they won't. Be a different set of
>>>>>>voters next time.
>>>>>
>>>>> The local polls say he will win easily.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Then he made the right choice for himself....assuming he wishes to
>>>>remain a Congressman.
>>>
>>> I won't deny that at all.
>>> But still wrong to wait until AFTER the election. The party should
>>> have the right to terminate ALL Congressional privileges unless he
>>> completes a term.
>>>
>>
>>Then don't vote for him next time. Or try to get your state to perform a
>>recall election.
>>

>Obviously the people who feel this way didn't vote for "him" in the
>first place. They voted for the "Party" member. All-in-all a fairly
>shitty reason to vote for any candidate in my book.

Welcome to 'Bama.
You have to remember that these idiots pick their favorite college
team depending on their relationship with dad. I they like dad (and he
likes Auburn) then they are life long Auburn fans. If they were the
rebellious one they picked AGAINST dad. And they NEVER change their
allegiance. NEVER! That's as looked down upon here as changing
churches.

Which, by the way keep lists of all the members AND their donations.
If you start cutting back you are talked to by the pastor or his
representative.. Not to ask if you are having problems, mind you. They
ask why you don't love god as much. I've heard the horrors stories in
person and on local talk radio.

Lookout

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On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:05:16 -0500, Zombywoof <fish...@live.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:58:06 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>

><snip>


>>
>>Why are you willing to apply your theory to only one part of elected
>>goevernment..
>>
>>You should be championing the idea for any politician who switches
>>parties after an election..
>>
>>Or would that require more ethics than you can manage ?
>>

>Personally I believe that it means that he voted for the Party and not
>the candidate. If those who voted for the person truly knew what he
>stood for (even if it is only for himself) his decision would neither
>surprise nor offend them.

I have no party other than a member of the Ilk party.

Lookout

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Jan 11, 2010, 6:28:30 PM1/11/10
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On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:08:22 -0500, Zombywoof <fish...@live.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 22:47:23 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
><snip>


>>
>>Remind me when the last time was a republican has changed to a dem
>>right after an election.
>>

>Does it really matter when they do it? Wouldn't doing it sooner as
>opposed to later make them even more ethical then say someone like
>Specter who did it just prior to an election?

Huh? Are you nuts? NO ONE has accuse Spector of doing anything other
than giving the voters a chance to vote for their next Senator. This
asshole made them vote for their PREVIOUS senator.

>>>Or would that require more ethics than you can manage ?
>>
>>Care to make an ass of yourself again?
>>

>As opposed to what, constantly like yourself?

I'm guessing you think you're opinion of me matters?

tankfixer

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Jan 11, 2010, 8:58:12 PM1/11/10
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In article <ppimk518dsqs53t0q...@4ax.com>,
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...

A politican is always running for reelection..

Lookout

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On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:58:12 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Nope. Over the last two elections cycles many besides Dodd have
decided to quit.

tankfixer

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In article <akrnk5d8kiivpuplm...@4ax.com>,


All he is doing is retiring from the Senate...

tankfixer

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In article <1mcnk55ms2r06bha0...@4ax.com>,
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...

> I've heard the horrors stories in person and on local talk radio.

Hahahah...

Yankee's are so gullible...


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