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Re: Nope, no Second Amendment here

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climber

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Nov 27, 2009, 8:25:10 PM11/27/09
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On Nov 27, 1:52 pm, "Dave Bugg" <davebu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thank God England is in compliance with the U.N.  Between the 2nd Amendment
> and our refusal to forgo land mines, we are just heathens I tells ya.
>
> "The principle of self-defence has an important place in international human
> rights law,
> but does not provide an independent, supervening right to small arms
> possession, nor does it
> ameliorate the duty of States to use due diligence in regulating civilian
> possession. Rather, as
> this report shows, there are wide areas where States should, can, and do
> regulate possession of
> firearms consistent with principles of self-defence. Self-defence is a
> widely recognized, yet
> legally proscribed, exception to the universal duty to respect the life of
> others. It is the basis for
> exemption from criminal responsibility that can be raised by any State agent
> or non-State actor.
> International law does not support an international legal obligation
> requiring States to permit
> access to a gun for self-defence. The principle of self-defence does not
> negate the due diligence
> responsibility of States to keep weapons out of the hands of those most
> likely to misuse them.
> The State has particularly acute obligations to protect vulnerable groups,
> including victims of
> domestic violence, from abuses with small arms.
> Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations applies to States acting in
> self-defence
> against armed attacks against their State sovereignty. It does not apply to
> situations of
> self-defence for individual persons."
>
> http://www.iansa.org/un/documents/salw_hr_report_2006.pdf
> --
> Dave
> What is best in life?    "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you,
> and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan

There has not been an Englishman worth a hoot since the Duke of
Wellington.
Such manhood now has been overwhelmed buy 500 years of Anglican
faggotry.

climber

jonny

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Nov 28, 2009, 6:04:38 AM11/28/09
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A great man, and a true Protestant.

> Such manhood now has been overwhelmed buy 500 years of Anglican
> faggotry.

Seen the news about the Irish Papist Kid fiddlers, if they let them
marry they might stop bumming kids, but don't hold your breath.

>
> climber

jonny

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Nov 28, 2009, 6:13:17 AM11/28/09
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1689 Bill of rights

"Freedom for Protestants to bear arms for their own defence, as suitable
to their class and as allowed by law."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_of_Rights_1689

What do you thing about that Papist Faggot?

Conan the Barabarian

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Nov 28, 2009, 12:20:15 PM11/28/09
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climber <coled...@gmail.com> wrote in
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Your time frame is off. As late as the 1940s the Brits needed wheelbarrows to
carry thier balls around. Battle of Britain, North Africa, Burma, the North
Atlantic, etc.

And in the early 1980s we saw a flicker of what had been.

Alas it all seems gone now.

--

To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the

lamentation of their women.

HeyBub

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Nov 28, 2009, 3:43:44 PM11/28/09
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climber wrote:
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> There has not been an Englishman worth a hoot since the Duke of
> Wellington.
> Such manhood now has been overwhelmed buy 500 years of Anglican
> faggotry.
>

To me, the most moving exhibit in the British War Museum was a piddly,
17-foot sailboat.

In late May, 1940, the word went out for every sea-going craft to make all
speed for the evacuation of the British Expeditionary Force from Dunkirk.
Everything that could float left southeastern England: Naval ships, merchant
vessels, tug boats, self-propelled barges, pleasure craft. Everything.

The owner of this 3-foot wide little boat evidently thought: I don't have
much, but I've got what I've got and I can sail on the open seas; the lads
in France need my help. This owner made THREE trips across the open channel
and brought back 17 soldiers.

Seventeen is almost insignificant compared to the 300,000 that were
evacuated. But the courage, determination, and valor of one small boat owner
was merely normal for the times.

I have no doubt that, should the need arise, that spirit will rise again.


Dave Bugg

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Nov 28, 2009, 6:53:32 PM11/28/09
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That was then. There are three generations of seperation between then and
now.

bbh...@gmail.com

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Nov 29, 2009, 1:36:28 PM11/29/09
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The Dutch are waking up. Maybe the Brits will out of boredom.

Benj

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Nov 29, 2009, 2:51:34 PM11/29/09
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On Nov 28, 3:43 pm, "HeyBub" <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> Seventeen is almost insignificant compared to the 300,000 that were
> evacuated. But the courage, determination, and valor of one small boat owner
> was merely normal for the times.
>
> I have no doubt that, should the need arise, that spirit will rise again.

Unfortunately the rest of us have some serious doubts. What are they
gonna do? Come begging the American people to donate their icky guns
designed only to kill the way they had to do in the early days of
WWII? There's one fact that people usually do not understand.
Civilization is a VERY precarious institution. Time was when the
Romans ruled the world. Centurions led one hundred men OUT IN FRONT
chopping away! And then it lapsed into socialism, and goody-goody,
crooked schemes and laziness and it took centuries for it to recover
if one can call modern Italy a "recovery". My bet is for those brave
Englishmen NOT to rise again but instead simply lapse into life
driving the ox carts of another dark ages. And Yeah, we'll probably
be driving them too!

Those who refuse to remember history are doomed to repeat it.

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