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Is Crash McCain the worst soldier in Military History?

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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS

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May 16, 2008, 12:00:18 AM5/16/08
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He loses 5 Navy jets, nearly blows up the carrier Forrestal with his cowboy
pilot antics, and then gets captured by the enemy and earns the nickname
Songbird John. Can anyone name a single military accomplishment of this
clown?.

He's damn lucky his daddy was an admiral.

DaveB

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May 16, 2008, 12:12:38 AM5/16/08
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Why don't you list a few of yours? Model airplanes don't count btw.
Daveb

DaveB

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May 16, 2008, 12:13:35 AM5/16/08
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Being married to an ugly woman don't either.
Daveb

CHICANERY

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May 16, 2008, 12:20:02 PM5/16/08
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"DaveB" <deb...@nt.org> wrote in message
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Rattlesnake Cindy isn't necessarily pretty.


Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS

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May 16, 2008, 12:45:32 PM5/16/08
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On May 15, 10:12 pm, debc...@nt.org (DaveB) wrote:

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> Why don't you list a few of yours? Model airplanes don't count btw.
> Daveb

Hey stupido. I'm not running for president. Now why don't you tell
us one good thing Crash did in the military.??

Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS

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May 16, 2008, 12:46:32 PM5/16/08
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On May 15, 10:13 pm, debc...@nt.org (DaveB) wrote:

Cindy-lou isn't ugly, at least not for a drug thief.

Werner

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May 16, 2008, 3:35:57 PM5/16/08
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On May 16, 12:00 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"

I'm told it isn't easy to land on a carrier. His Admiral daddy could
surely have found a safer alternative. Then of course a fucking jerk
like you can't remember McCain was shot down. That should tell you he
was not playing with his dick at home, as you probably were. And were
was he shot down? Not in front of the XBox, you turd. How can an
asshole like you question someone like McCain? Tell me your
credentials.

Werner

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May 16, 2008, 3:36:56 PM5/16/08
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On May 16, 12:45 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"

He served in combat. Did you?

TedKennedyMurderedHisP...@spamgourmet.com

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May 16, 2008, 9:26:41 PM5/16/08
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"Speeders And Drunk Drivers Are Murderers" (SADDAM) served the
combatants. On his knees. It was part of Clinton's "Don't ask; don't
tell" policy, which explains why SADDAM is such the Clinton supporter.

Morton Davis

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May 18, 2008, 10:49:14 AM5/18/08
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"Werner" <whet...@mac.com> wrote in message
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Isn't it funny how the left claims Bush and McCain's rich, powerful daddies
did all that stuff for their sons? Must mean that Gore and Kerry's rich,
powerful daddies hated their sons' guts.


Gray Ghost

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May 18, 2008, 2:23:29 PM5/18/08
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"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:Xns9A9FDFD7A8584r...@216.168.3.70:

What Stockdale says:

http://www.miafacts.org/mccain_2.htm

What the Navy says:

http://www.npc.navy.mil/NR/rdonlyres/330F85C7-5982-4B09-A46A-
373964430AFB/0/Document.pdf

That link is the PDF linked from here:
http://www.npc.navy.mil/ReferenceLibrary/FOIA/FOIAReadingRoom.htm
go here and see if you can locate Kerry's record in the released records.
Type Kerry in the Search box in the upper right.

What I say:

I disagree with him on many issues. But attempting to smear a man who did
what you couldn't do on your best day, is disgusting.

How many high performance military aircraft can you fly?
When did you receive your Carrier Qualification?
Ever make a night landing on an aircraft carrier at sea in a high performace
aorcraft?
How much combat have you seen, in any capacity?

BTW, on Forrestal his aircraft was HIT by a Zuni rocket that came from an F4
Phantom behind him, you deranged idiot. After getting out of his aircarft,
passing through a wall of flames he went back to help another pilot who was
on fire. You could at least try and get the easily verifiable facts correct.

Also note that the Vietnamese offered to release him because of his stature
as son of an admiral. He refused. Some claim he was a fortunate son to even
be asked. So? They asked him not the other way round. And the Vietnamese were
pretty good at playing the propaganda game. Had he been released how,would
that have looked? Was there any outcome from this little slice of life that
you would not exploit or lie about?

And none of the crap about him being a cooperative prisoner was ever stated
by anyone who had actually been imprisoned with him. Only postwar bags of
vomit without a shred of decency or a verifiable fact.


Aircraft losses.

Engine Failure
Definitely sounds like pilot error. Never, ever happened before.

Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula, he took out some power line
Apparently not an infrequent happening, it's happened before and since. And
he was not grounded either, which he would have been had they really felt him
to be reckless and at fault. Admiral's sons are cheap, aircraft are
expensive.

Flameout
Definitely sounds like pilot error. Never, ever happened before.

Fire on ship
See above and other links.

Shot down by SAM in low level attack
And what were you doing that day?

What others say:

http://blog.creativethink.com/2008/03/where-john-mcca.html
http://www.miafacts.org/mccain.htm
http://www.azcentral.com/news/specials/mccain/articles/0301mccainbio-
chapter3.html
http://www.blogsforjohnmccain.com/pow-years-part-1-john-mccain-his-own-words-
shot-down
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/soapbox/mccain.asp

What idiot Democrats say:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/04/rockefeller_disgrace.asp

Gray Ghost

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May 18, 2008, 2:24:20 PM5/18/08
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"CHICANERY" <Bush...@home.net> wrote in news:HuiXj.268$co7.139
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Only if you're a fag or like 'em fat and ugly.

Frank

Gray Ghost

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May 18, 2008, 2:32:58 PM5/18/08
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"Morton Davis" <anti...@go.com> wrote in
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No. What it means is Democrats recognize that genuine military credentials do
matter to some, maybe a lot of voters. Since they can't field anyone with any
such credentials they must, being politicians and everything being political,
instead try to demean and minimize the service of those better than them to
even the playing field, no matter how dispicable the lie they must tell.
Morality and the truth are after all maleable and may be molded to thier
advantage with no penalty for doing so.

There is a lot not to like about Democrats, but I do try to stay to facts.
Sensationalized lies are only effective on those who lack critical reasoning
skills, a class made vast by the public school system. Such as it is when
they discover they've been lied to and misled they can also backlash more
then the more thoughtful types who knew they were being lied to all along.

Frank

Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS

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May 18, 2008, 11:59:43 PM5/18/08
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On May 18, 12:23 pm, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost)
wrote:

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> BTW, on Forrestal his aircraft was HIT by a Zuni rocket that came from an F4
> Phantom behind him, you deranged idiot.

That's the story i heard also. John mccain was a nutter who liked to
"gun the engine" on his jets to prove what a big man he is. This time
he did it and ignited some ordinance on the jet behind him and then
the mayhem started. But his daddy the admiral got him out of the mess
like always. Crash should have gotten 50 years in the brig.

DaveB

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May 18, 2008, 11:59:25 PM5/18/08
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Damn ! you are stuck on stupid eh?
Daveb

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