Obama = Change = Socialism = A Bad Deal
fredthompson
If socialism is truly what some of you dumb asses want with the
bullshit talk from the mouth of a liar, Barack Hussein Obama, then
that is what you deserve. Unfortunately, all of America will pay for
such a poor choice on election day. Socialism does not work, has
never worked, and will again not work. Have we not learned from the
lessons of others, the form of government Barack Hussein Obama wants,
simply does not work. Democrats in this election are relying on
skewed truth to convince, or lure, voters into something they will
never realize. It is a classic bait and switch, advertise this,
provide something else. Redistribution is not good for this country.
Make the right choice on election day, cast your vote for a true
American, John McCain.
shaff...@gmail.com
LoL Yes because we've done so well with George W Bush the past 8 years
compared to the socialist Bill Clinton??? The last 16 years have
taught us that the country runs best when everyone is making money,
not just the top 5%..You don't have a clue what socialism is, but keep
reciting Sean Hannity's talking points maybe someone will listen. Hey
Canada might take you on November 5th?
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each party. That would be one from the Republican party and one from
the Democrat party.
Jean Smith
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Devil.Handsome
<Fred Thompson> wrote in message
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>
> If socialism is truly what some of you dumb asses want with the
> bullshit talk from the mouth of a liar, Barack Hussein Obama, then
> that is what you deserve. Unfortunately, all of America will pay for
> such a poor choice on election day. Socialism does not work, has
> never worked, and will again not work. Have we not learned from the
> lessons of others, the form of government Barack Hussein Obama wants,
> simply does not work.
that's really funny, are you implying that your form of government has
worked ?
for whom exactly ?
have you not learned from the lessons that surround you ?
John Wayne
>
> Republikkkan = 0
Not even Abe Lincoln?
Bilateral unibrowism
With an economic crisis in our possible future, we need a President
who is willing to abandon their current economic policies and adopt
ones that will get us out of this mess. Though Obama's and McCain's
economic policies are almost identical with few differences, I think
when the crisis hits, Obama is very much more likely to change than
McCain. And since McCain relies too heavily upon one of the
architects of this economic mess--Phil Gramm--and Phil Gramm is
unwilling to accept that his policies are part of the problem, I don't
think McCain will change. A McCain presidency will be like having
Hoover after the great crash. Hoover did nothing and so will McCain.
HERMANM666
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> ENJOY YOUR NEW FUTURE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!http://objllc.com/USSA.htm
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> <shaffer...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Looking forward to our new future. Reason, logic, and scientific
thought will now govern policy making. Saying "God wants the people
of Iraq to be free" will no longer be an acceptable justification of
war...
FACE
shaff...@gmail.com, wrote
Who used that logic? Back it up with a mainstream media report.
Some mideast muslim minister is not a valid backup -- well, it probably is
to you, but not the rest of the world......
BTW, who was it again who instituted a US policy of regime change in Iraq
in 1998?
Was it the Democrat Bill Clinton? "The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998
(Public Law 105-338) [1] (codified in a note to 22 USCS ยง 2151) is a
United States Congressional statement of policy calling for regime change
in Iraq; it was signed into law by President Bill Clinton."
Well?
What reasons were given for war in Iraq in 2002?
This resolution was passed by the house and the senate.
The vote was 296-133 in the House and 77-23 in the Senate, so it passed.
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For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
October 2, 2002
Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces
Against Iraq
Whereas in 1990 in response to Iraq's war of aggression against and
illegal occupation of Kuwait, the United States forged a coalition of
nations to liberate Kuwait and its people in order to defend the national
security of the United States and enforce United Nations Security Council
resolutions relating to Iraq;
Whereas after the liberation of Kuwait in 1991, Iraq entered into a United
Nations sponsored cease-fire agreement pursuant to which Iraq
unequivocally agreed, among other things, to eliminate its nuclear,
biological, and chemical weapons programs and the means to deliver and
develop them, and to end its support for international terrorism;
Whereas the efforts of international weapons inspectors, United States
intelligence agencies, and Iraqi defectors led to the discovery that Iraq
had large stockpiles of chemical weapons and a large scale biological
weapons program, and that Iraq had an advanced nuclear weapons development
program that was much closer to producing a nuclear weapon than
intelligence reporting had previously indicated;
Whereas Iraq, in direct and flagrant violation of the cease-fire,
attempted to thwart the efforts of weapons inspectors to identify and
destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction stockpiles and development
capabilities, which finally resulted in the withdrawal of inspectors from
Iraq on October 31, 1998;
Whereas in 1998 Congress concluded that Iraq's continuing weapons of mass
destruction programs threatened vital United States interests and
international peace and security, declared Iraq to be in "material and
unacceptable breach of its international obligations" and urged the
President "to take appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution
and relevant laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into compliance with
its international obligations" (Public Law 105-235);
Whereas Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security of
the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf
region and remains in material and unacceptable breach of its
international obligations by, among other things, continuing to possess
and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability,
actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability, and supporting and
harboring terrorist organizations;
Whereas Iraq persists in violating resolutions of the United Nations
Security Council by continuing to engage in brutal repression of its
civilian population thereby threatening international peace and security
in the region, by refusing to release, repatriate, or account for
non-Iraqi citizens wrongfully detained by Iraq, including an American
serviceman, and by failing to return property wrongfully seized by Iraq
from Kuwait;
Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its capability and
willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and
its own people;
Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing hostility
toward, and willingness to attack, the United States, including by
attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President Bush and by firing on
many thousands of occasions on United States and Coalition Armed Forces
engaged in enforcing the resolutions of the United Nations Security
Council;
Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for
attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the
attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq;
Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist
organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety
of American citizens;
Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001 underscored
the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition of weapons of mass
destruction by international terrorist organizations;
Whereas Iraq's demonstrated capability and willingness to use weapons of
mass destruction, the risk that the current Iraqi regime will either
employ those weapons to launch a surprise attack against the United States
or its Armed Forces or provide them to international terrorists who would
do so, and the extreme magnitude of harm that would result to the United
States and its citizens from such an attack, combine to justify action by
the United States to defend itself;
Whereas United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 authorizes the use
of all necessary means to enforce United Nations Security Council
Resolution 660 and subsequent relevant resolutions and to compel Iraq to
cease certain activities that threaten international peace and security,
including the development of weapons of mass destruction and refusal or
obstruction of United Nations weapons inspections in violation of United
Nations Security Council Resolution 687, repression of its civilian
population in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688,
and threatening its neighbors or United Nations operations in Iraq in
violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 949;
Whereas Congress in the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against
Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1) has authorized the President "to use
United States Armed Forces pursuant to United Nations Security Council
Resolution 678 (1990) in order to achieve implementation of Security
Council Resolutions 660, 661, 662, 664, 665, 666, 667, 669, 670, 674, and
677";
Whereas in December 1991, Congress expressed its sense that it "supports
the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations
Security Council Resolution 687 as being consistent with the Authorization
of Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1)," that
Iraq's repression of its civilian population violates United Nations
Security Council Resolution 688 and "constitutes a continuing threat to
the peace, security, and stability of the Persian Gulf region," and that
Congress, "supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of
United Nations Security Council Resolution 688";
Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act (Public Law 105-338) expressed the sense
of Congress that it should be the policy of the United States to support
efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi regime and promote the
emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime;
Whereas on September 12, 2002, President Bush committed the United States
to "work with the United Nations Security Council to meet our common
challenge" posed by Iraq and to "work for the necessary resolutions,"
while also making clear that "the Security Council resolutions will be
enforced, and the just demands of peace and security will be met, or
action will be unavoidable";
Whereas the United States is determined to prosecute the war on terrorism
and Iraq's ongoing support for international terrorist groups combined
with its development of weapons of mass destruction in direct violation of
its obligations under the 1991 cease-fire and other United Nations
Security Council resolutions make clear that it is in the national
security interests of the United States and in furtherance of the war on
terrorism that all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions be
enforced, including through the use of force if necessary;
Whereas Congress has taken steps to pursue vigorously the war on terrorism
through the provision of authorities and funding requested by the
President to take the necessary actions against international terrorists
and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations or
persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks
that occurred on September 11, 2001 or harbored such persons or
organizations;
Whereas the President and Congress are determined to continue to take all
appropriate actions against international terrorists and terrorist
organizations, including those nations, organizations or persons who
planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that
occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such persons or organizations;
Whereas the President has authority under the Constitution to take action
in order to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against the
United States, as Congress recognized in the joint resolution on
Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40); and
Whereas it is in the national security of the United States to restore
international peace and security to the Persian Gulf region;
Now, therefore, be it resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives
of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SEC. 1. SHORT TITLE.
This joint resolution may be cited as the "Authorization for the Use of
Military Force Against Iraq".
SEC. 2. SUPPORT FOR UNITED STATES DIPLOMATIC EFFORTS
The Congress of the United States supports the efforts by the President
to--
(a) strictly enforce through the United Nations Security Council all
relevant Security Council resolutions applicable to Iraq and encourages
him in those efforts; and
(b) obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure
that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion and noncompliance and
promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council
resolutions.
SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.
(a) AUTHORIZATION. The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of
the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in
order to
(1) defend the national security of the United States against the
continuing threat posed by Iraq; and
(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council Resolutions
regarding Iraq.
(b) PRESIDENTIAL DETERMINATION.
In connection with the exercise of the authority granted in subsection (a)
to use force the President shall, prior to such exercise or as soon there
after as may be feasible, but no later than 48 hours after exercising such
authority, make available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives
and the President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that
(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or other peaceful
means alone either (A) will not adequately protect the national security
of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is
not likely to lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security
Council resolutions regarding Iraq, and
(2) acting pursuant to this resolution is consistent with the United
States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions
against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including
those nations, organizations or persons who planned, authorized, committed
or aided the terrorists attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.
(c) WAR POWERS RESOLUTION REQUIREMENTS. --
(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION. -- Consistent with section 8(a)(1)
of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is
intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning
of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.
(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS. -- Nothing in this resolution
supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.
SEC. 4. REPORTS TO CONGRESS
(a) The President shall, at least once every 60 days, submit to the
Congress a report on matters relevant to this joint resolution, including
actions taken pursuant to the exercise of authority granted in section 2
and the status of planning for efforts that are expected to be required
after such actions are completed, including those actions described in
section 7 of Public Law 105-338 (the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998).
(b) To the extent that the submission of any report described in
subsection (a) coincides with the submission of any other report on
matters relevant to this joint resolution otherwise required to be
submitted to Congress pursuant to the reporting requirements of Public Law
93-148 (the War Powers Resolution), all such reports may be submitted as a
single consolidated report to the Congress.
(c) To the extent that the information required by section 3 of Public Law
102-1 is included in the report required by this section, such report
shall be considered as meeting the requirements of section 3 of Public Law
102-1.
~~~
You're stupid.
FACE
shaff...@gmail.com
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:42:50 -0800 (PST), ย in atl.general,
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Great, i'm wholly unmoved and still thankful the moral majority will
be given a much needed vacation out of Washington D.C.
FACE
in glistered weave wrote large for all to see:
Completely as expected. You have no coherent response at all.
LOL!!!!!!!!
shaff...@gmail.com
> On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:02:24 -0800 (PST) in atl.general, shaffer...@gmail.com
LOL!!!! No response needed, you're obviously an unthinking member of
the moral majority. Or did you forget the 9/11 commission report found
no "collaborative relationship" between Iraq and Al Qaeda? So while
Bush used this to justify his war (even though the evidence did not
support the connection), I can only assume that his real reason must
have been, as he stated, "God wants the people of Iraq to be free."
FACE
You are all over the ad hominem block with no sane response to the
specifics. I responded to the specifics.
Your "assuming" has made an ass out of you, but not out of me.........
Loser..............
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
shaff...@gmail.com
No you did not respond to any specifics, you merely copy/pasted Bush's
resolution of war into your message to give the impression of academic
intelligence. The 9/11 commission report was clear - no link could be
made between Al Qaeda and Iraq. Admit it your President misled you
into an unjustified war...
FACE
in glistered weave wrote large for all to see:
>On Nov 7, 11:53ย am, FACE
Dear stupid,
You failed miserably -- but expectedly -- to back up your claim. I guess
you think that you can cover it up now. LOL!!!!!! You can't, stupid.
I specifically showed that you were an idiot with the posting of the
following in rebuttal to the specific "God" claim of yours:
~~~~~~
Well?
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Whereas Congress has taken steps to pursue vigorously the war on terrorism
SEC. 1. SHORT TITLE.
(b) PRESIDENTIAL DETERMINATION.
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You're stupid.
FACE
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You remain stupid and make an even bigger fool of yourself now........
FACE