obama victory is impressive
harmony
in an environement where crime was pervasive. and yet he managed to come
unscathed from it all, and rose to the top among the best educated. his fast
rise in the hostile world of politics is less stunning but more popular. he
deserves everybody's respect, and mr. mccain's concession speech was
exemplary.
well, what next? seems like obama is rightly motivated to do the right
thing. but i think biden has it right when he said obama will be tested
severely. my only concern is that obama would flood usa with millions of
muslims - wittingly or unwittingly - as an expresson of his gratitutde. i
would hate to see usa getting checkmated in its own home by a large islamic
political base as it has happened in europe: britian already has sharia
courts. netherland and belgium are already choked up, and even france is
well headed that way. today only usa and israel speak for freedom. for how
long is the question given the declining white population in usa.
Stray Dog
harmony,
I appreciate your warm-fuzzy feelings but don't count the chickens before
they hatch. I'm glad to see the neo-con crooks leave their offices, but
the economic sentiment and situation is very serious and who is in the top
office is a normal mortal without powers of magic or sorcery. The
analogous situation is FDR times and FDR did a lot of things and not
everyone agrees that what he did caused everyone to climb out of the
depression. The prevailing consumer attitude is to cut back spending and
the prevailing corporate attitude is to leet the few executives keep their
jobs and lay off all the underlings and that is a bad situation.
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, harmony wrote:
> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:47:44 -0600
> From: harmony <a...@hotmail.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.politics.republican, alt.politics.democrat,
> talk.politics.guns, alt.computer.consultants, soc.culture.indian
> Subject: obama victory is impressive
harmony
"plumbing" at the wall street.
the fact is things can work out just great in the american system provided
there is no wholesale cheating by the fat cats. what wall street does now is
deliberate skewing of the markets thr' favoritism and malpractices. since
honest ways don't yield instant riches, they must adopt the fmailiar and
well known 3rd world means of cheating the unsuspecting trusting people. it
is like what republican millionaire talk show hosts do to their republican
non-millionaires listeners (aka the buba) for their votes.
"Stray Dog" <sdog...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote in message
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Stray Dog
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, harmony wrote:
> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:59:15 -0600
> From: harmony <a...@hotmail.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.politics.republican, alt.politics.democrat,
> talk.politics.guns, alt.computer.consultants, soc.culture.indian
> Subject: Re: obama victory is impressive
>
> what obama promised - and can very likely deliver - is sound economic
> "plumbing" at the wall street.
I don't want to be pessimistic, but the mess is very very serious and
there are still a lot of special interests that don't want ANY form of
govt regulation, but they all have their hands held out for money, no
matter where it comes from.
> the fact is things can work out just great in the american system
Yes, it might be a little better than in lots of other places....
provided
> there is no wholesale cheating by the fat cats.
...but those fat cats are still out there and they WANT to stay as fat
cats, very fat cats.
what wall street does now is
> deliberate skewing of the markets thr' favoritism and malpractices. since
> honest ways don't yield instant riches, they must adopt the fmailiar and
> well known 3rd world means of cheating the unsuspecting trusting people. it
> is like what republican millionaire talk show hosts do to their republican
> non-millionaires listeners (aka the buba) for their votes.
Not much disagreement with you on all that.
///////////////////////
Schlitzy
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fuck each other over there Punk!
Goober
Hey look!! It's another cut and paste king. Maybe you could actually
comes up with ideas for fixing the mess that will work instead of
being hateful.
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Sorry craps but we are here to stay and we will remind you of every
fucking promise that you break and of every lie that you tell. We
will also promise to give Obama the same respect and support that all
you craps have given Bush for the last eight years.
Old Pif
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, harmony wrote:
> > Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:59:15 -0600
> > From: harmony <a...@hotmail.com>
> > Newsgroups: alt.politics.republican, alt.politics.democrat,
> > talk.politics.guns, alt.computer.consultants, soc.culture.indian
> > Subject: Re: obama victory is impressive
>
> > what obama promised - and can very likely deliver - is sound economic
> > "plumbing" at the wall street.
>
> I don't want to be pessimistic, but the mess is very very serious and
> there are still a lot of special interests that don't want ANY form of
> govt regulation, but they all have their hands held out for money, no
> matter where it comes from.
>
There are a lot of enthusiasm out there. Might be totally unfounded.
People would like "to take part". How they could? What Joe the Plumber
can contribute other than do his plumbing well, on time and at low
cost. But whether he will have customers?
famabba
The ditzy slut "harmony" was for a couple of years just as annoying as a
right-wing nut-job as he is in his current role of left wing retard,
before he decided to "go both ways". That said, Bush had the respect and
support of the majority of the people, but he frittered it away in a
very un-Presidential way. 2002 was the last year I gave that man my support.
Fift...@abcnnbcbs.com
wrote:
Got any "IMPEACH OBAMA" stickers yet?
Old Pif
>
> Got any "IMPEACH OBAMA" stickers yet?
>
No, why? Give him a chance.
General Savage
You are more proof that liberalism is a very, very serious mental
disorder.
Cole Firearms Inc.
We don't need to impeach him, obama is not an American citizen.
Therefore he can never be President.
We are in a Constitutional crisis.
By defalt John McCain is President.
Stray Dog
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Old Pif wrote:
> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:00:58 -0800 (PST)
> From: Old Pif <Old...@gmail.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.politics.republican, alt.politics.democrat,
> talk.politics.guns, alt.computer.consultants, soc.culture.indian
> Subject: Re: obama victory is impressive
>
> On Nov 5, 4:22 pm, Stray Dog <sdog2...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, harmony wrote:
>>> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:59:15 -0600
>>> From: harmony <a...@hotmail.com>
>>> Newsgroups: alt.politics.republican, alt.politics.democrat,
>>> talk.politics.guns, alt.computer.consultants, soc.culture.indian
>>> Subject: Re: obama victory is impressive
>>
>>> what obama promised - and can very likely deliver - is sound economic
>>> "plumbing" at the wall street.
>>
>> I don't want to be pessimistic, but the mess is very very serious and
>> there are still a lot of special interests that don't want ANY form of
>> govt regulation, but they all have their hands held out for money, no
>> matter where it comes from.
>>
>
> There are a lot of enthusiasm out there. Might be totally unfounded.
> People would like "to take part". How they could? What Joe the Plumber
> can contribute other than do his plumbing well, on time and at low
> cost. But whether he will have customers?
>
I'm happy that we are getting what we are getting and I am happy that we
are not getting the 72-year-old who could croak and then we'd get the
bimbo-airhead-teeny-bopper.
I wish Obama luck, but I also see a charismatic/elequent guy who, pretty
damned soon, is going to be up against the same old gridlock politics,
the high pressure lobbyhists, the special interests, and who gave him big
bucks to help in the election.
In all the recent elections, the new guy rides on a wave of popularity and
by the end of the term, the polls usually show the guy goes out with lower
marks than when he started.
If he pulls 100,000 troops out of Iraq and brings them home, that is going
to be another 100,000 unemployed guys in line for UE benefits.
Will the skinhead/supremacists try to assasinate him?
Repeat: I'm happy for the result, I wish him luck. Now, get back to
praying for miracle from heaven, or anywhere, for a short shallow
recession/depression.
Cole Firearms Inc.
You mean he wants to surrender to the terrorists.
> Will the skinhead/supremacists try to assasinate him?
>
Unlikely.
Stray Dog
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Cole Firearms Inc. wrote:
> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:11:06 -0600
> From: Cole Firearms Inc. <colefir...@sbcglobal.net>
Iraq is another stupid adventure like Viet Nam was.
>
>> Will the skinhead/supremacists try to assasinate him?
>>
>
> Unlikely.
They already caught two guys trying, what you don't read anything in the
media?
>
Stray Dog
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Old Pif wrote:
> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:32:56 -0800 (PST)
> From: Old Pif <Old...@gmail.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.politics.republican, alt.politics.democrat,
> talk.politics.guns, alt.computer.consultants, soc.culture.indian
> Subject: Re: obama victory is impressive
>
> On Nov 5, 9:27 pm, Fifty...@abcnnbcbs.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Got any "IMPEACH OBAMA" stickers yet?
>>
>
> No, why? Give him a chance.
>
Hey, Old Pif, is the full moon out or something? All these wackos come out
of the darkness? Or are they the economic crooks that are going to have
their "toys" (tricky-cheaty-sneaky) derivatives, sub-prime scams, etc.,
that helped us get into the mess we're in.
Cole Firearms Inc.
Just because it's printed in the media, doesn't make it true.
Cole Firearms Inc.
> Yes he is.
> Prove otherwise.
He was born in kenya, his mother was 14 at the time, he doesn't have an
American birth cirtificate, he doesn't have an American passport. The
governer of hawaii is aware of all this and is hiding the evidence.
Cole Firearms Inc.
> Another loser that fell for the Bush bullshit. Thank goodness that
> nightmare is almost over.
Almost isn't today.
>
> As for terrorist, did you ever stop to think why in 7 years, Bin Laden
> hasn't been captured? did you ever stop to think that we weren't
> looking and that it wasn't a priority? He was not in Iraq and hadn't
> been in 20 years. The terrorists weren't in Iraq. But the oil was.
> Looks like we struck out and now we're asked to leave and we will.
> 5000 lives wasted, just like Viet Nam. And you fell for it!
Every day we are killing enemies of America, thats all I need to know.
Cole Firearms Inc.
> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:38:31 -0600, "Cole Firearms Inc."
There is currently a lawsuit trying to make him prove all this and more.
T. Keating
<colefir...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
err... no.. I see we found another malcontent living in a fantasy
world.
The 20th amendment covers any failure to qualify..
If for some extreme reason Senator Obama failed to qualify for
office..
Senator Biden would become acting president. .
Romanise
> it has to be acknowledged that obama rose from a humble beginning, grew up
> in an environement where crime was pervasive.
Curious to know what environment it was where crime was pervasive?
.
Old Pif
Full moon or not let us see what he is up to before sticking stickers.
Stray Dog
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Old Pif wrote:
> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 05:21:28 -0800 (PST)
> From: Old Pif <Old...@gmail.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.politics.republican, alt.politics.democrat,
> talk.politics.guns, alt.computer.consultants, soc.culture.indian
> Subject: Re: obama victory is impressive
>
> On Nov 5, 10:28 pm, Stray Dog <sdog2...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Old Pif wrote:
>>> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:32:56 -0800 (PST)
>>> From: Old Pif <Old...@gmail.com>
>>> Newsgroups: alt.politics.republican, alt.politics.democrat,
>>> talk.politics.guns, alt.computer.consultants, soc.culture.indian
>>> Subject: Re: obama victory is impressive
>>
>>> On Nov 5, 9:27 pm, Fifty...@abcnnbcbs.com wrote:
>>
>>>> Got any "IMPEACH OBAMA" stickers yet?
>>
>>> No, why? Give him a chance.
>>
>> Hey, Old Pif, is the full moon out or something? All these wackos come out
>> of the darkness? Or are they the economic crooks that are going to have
>> their "toys" (tricky-cheaty-sneaky) derivatives, sub-prime scams, etc.,
>> that helped us get into the mess we're in.
>>
>
> Full moon or not let us see what he is up to before sticking stickers.
>
You know, I'm thankful we did not get a 9/11 attack in the month before
the election. All that would do is push peole to McCain and we'd be
getting "Bush III."
Sticking stickers? When Bush II got elected, I just let it pass. At least
till he started talking war talk, then I said to myself this is going to
be "Viet Nam II" (and it is) and when he said WMD in Iraq, I laughed my
head off, I would have bet all the money I had that he was wrong. But I
did not. I missed my chance to be rich.
However, I will wish Obama luck.
Old Pif
> On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Old Pif wrote:
> > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 05:21:28 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Old Pif <Old...@gmail.com>
> > Newsgroups: alt.politics.republican, alt.politics.democrat,
> > talk.politics.guns, alt.computer.consultants, soc.culture.indian
> > Subject: Re: obama victory is impressive
>
> > On Nov 5, 10:28 pm, Stray Dog <sdog2...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Old Pif wrote:
> >>> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:32:56 -0800 (PST)
> >>> From: Old Pif <Old...@gmail.com>
> >>> Newsgroups: alt.politics.republican, alt.politics.democrat,
> >>> talk.politics.guns, alt.computer.consultants, soc.culture.indian
> >>> Subject: Re: obama victory is impressive
>
> >>> On Nov 5, 9:27 pm, Fifty...@abcnnbcbs.com wrote:
>
> >>>> Got any "IMPEACH OBAMA" stickers yet?
>
> >>> No, why? Give him a chance.
>
> >> Hey, Old Pif, is the full moon out or something? All these wackos come out
> >> of the darkness? Or are they the economic crooks that are going to have
> >> their "toys" (tricky-cheaty-sneaky) derivatives, sub-prime scams, etc.,
> >> that helped us get into the mess we're in.
>
> > Full moon or not let us see what he is up to before sticking stickers.
>
> You know, I'm thankful we did not get a 9/11 attack in the month before
> getting "Bush III."
>
Something like this actually has happened but in the opposite
direction. Some analysts believe that banking crisis played on Obama's
hand. McCain was to slow to respond properly and on the top of that as
a Republican he is associated with the cause of the crisis.
>
> However, I will wish Obama luck.
>
Naturally, let him show himself. I voted for him for the sole reason
that he is from the younger generation. Whether he will contribute
something positive is an open question, but as far as McCain is
concerned everything would stay the same for sure.
Stray Dog
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Old Pif wrote:
> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:04:47 -0800 (PST)
I pretty much agree with you, but Obama is getting a big basket of
big problems.
PLMerite
"Old Pif" <Old...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I voted for him for the sole reason that he is from the younger
> generation.
Yeah, that's a good reason.
Regards, PLMerite
--
"Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin to
clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because Liberals are
so stupid it is easy work." Steven M. Barry
Cole Firearms Inc.
The 20th says "if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then
the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall
have qualified;"
biden will be a temporary president until this is straighted out, or a
new election is held.
PLMerite
"Judge Piglet" <pon...@uscb.edu> wrote in message
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>
>
> There is nothing to straighten out. Why are you people so obsessed
> with this? How many times do I have to post the information as to
> where you can get Obama's birth certificate?? It's a public document.
> I guess you'd just rather whine about your guy coming in poorly.
I've never seen Barack Hussein Obama's Birth Certificate.
I've seen something called a "Certificate of Live Birth" printed in 2007,
but never his actual Birth Certificate from 1961.
Please post a link to his original, 1961 Birth Certificate complete with
signatures and notary seal.
Regards, PLMerite
--
"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under
the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist
program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without
knowing how it happened."
- Norman Thomas, six-time U.S. Presidential candidate for the Socialist
Party of America, 1948
T. Keating
I still see that you're still showing signs of delusional behavior..
No new election..Biden becomes president, if neither qualifies
then.. Congress decides...
But all this speculation is moot..
Obama is a natural born US citizen.. No if's, and's, or but's.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
"Born in the U.S.A.
August 21, 2008
Updated: November 1, 2008
The truth about Obama's birth certificate."
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html
"Q:Does Barack Obama have Kenyan citizenship?"
"A: No. He held both U.S. and Kenyan citizenship as a child, but lost
his Kenyan citizenship automatically on his 21st birthday."
Meanwhile.. McCain.. Was born OUTSIDE the USA.. in Panama.
Klaus Schadenfreude
>Meanwhile.. McCain.. Was born OUTSIDE the USA.. in Panama.
Wrong.
Gray Ghost
> On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:36:34 -0600, "Cole Firearms Inc."
> There is nothing to straighten out. Why are you people so obsessed
> with this? How many times do I have to post the information as to
> where you can get Obama's birth certificate?? It's a public document.
> I guess you'd just rather whine about your guy coming in poorly.
>
>
> "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's
> ass....."
>
> The Semi-Honorable Judge Pontius
> Pigglesworth, presiding
>
>
>
>
The lie that defines the left.
a) we are a nation of law, not men.
Elgibility is quite clearly defined. A member of his own family recalls he
being born in Kenya. Is that person lieing?
If a person who is not qualified is allowed to serve it makes a mockery of the
rest of the document. Sibce the President swears to "uphold and protect the
Constitution" as part of his oath of office, being in violation at the
swearing invalidates his legal authority from the very start.
b) You are lieing once again regarding availability. I realize that Goebells
said a lie repeated often enough becomes a truth, but only for those willing
to be duped.
If you are so willing to break the rules of the very governing document and so
baldly willing to lie about it, what can one assume about your intentions?
--
Always remember:
Bull Connor was a Democrat!
Gray Ghost
news:6jf8h4drhf9njdbf7...@4ax.com:
> On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:36:34 -0600, "Cole Firearms Inc."
><colefir...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>>> The 20th amendment covers any failure to qualify..
>>> If for some extreme reason Senator Obama failed to qualify for
>>> office..
>>> Senator Biden would become acting president. .
>>>
>>> http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am20.
>
>>The 20th says "if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then
>>the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall
>>have qualified;"
>>
>>biden will be a temporary president until this is straighted out, or a
>>new election is held.
>
> I still see that you're still showing signs of delusional behavior..
> No new election..Biden becomes president, if neither qualifies
> then.. Congress decides...
>
> But all this speculation is moot..
> Obama is a natural born US citizen.. No if's, and's, or but's.
>
> http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
> "Born in the U.S.A.
> August 21, 2008
> Updated: November 1, 2008
> The truth about Obama's birth certificate."
>
> http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citize
> nship.html "Q:Does Barack Obama have Kenyan citizenship?"
>
> "A: No. He held both U.S. and Kenyan citizenship as a child, but lost
> his Kenyan citizenship automatically on his 21st birthday."
Since producing the document would quiet these critics why is it not done in a
public way?
>
>
> Meanwhile.. McCain.. Was born OUTSIDE the USA.. in Panama.
>
To a serving US military officer, on a US military base, on American territory
(thr Canal Zone), in a US military hospital.
Gary Lane
On US soil, to parents of US citizenry, who were US Government employees.
PLMerite
"T. Keating" <tkus...@ktcnslt.com> wrote in message
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>
> http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
This is not a Birth Certificate. It is a "Certificate of Live Birth" which
may be issued to someone born in Hawaii or elsewhere. This proves only that
he was alive in Hawaii as an infant.
It is *not* the Birth Certificate that was issued in 1961.
What's so hard about getting a copy of your Birth Certificate? I had to do
it when I had a gov't job. You'd think someone running for President could
handle a simple task like that.
Regards, PLMerite
--
"It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who
cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide
everything."
-Joseph Stalin
T. Keating
wrote:
outside the canal zone.. In a panamian hostpital..
...
as for the final nail in Obama's Birth Certificate issue.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iw1At-4G1xuE50oXVFRlBPfR3dqgD945OLU00
"State declares Obama birth certificate genuine"
"HONOLULU (AP) — State officials say there's no doubt Barack Obama was
born in Hawaii.
Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday she and the
registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified
that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate."
Gary Lane
>>Meanwhile.. McCain.. Was born OUTSIDE the USA.. in Panama.
> outside the canal zone.. In a panamian hostpital..
You Idiot.
He was born at a US NAVAL/AIR BASE...(US SOIL!), INSIDE the "Canal
Zone", From US parents who were working for the US Government!
Instant US Citizenry, you dork.
http://panamaliving.com/CSmap2.jpg
How many more times are you going to prove that you are always wrong...
and really stupid?
T. Keating
wrote:
>T. Keating wrote:
>> On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:30:18 -0500, T. Keating <tkus...@ktcnslt.com>
>> wrote:
>
>>>Meanwhile.. McCain.. Was born OUTSIDE the USA.. in Panama.
>
>> outside the canal zone.. In a panamian hostpital..
>
>You Idiot.
> He was born at a US NAVAL/AIR BASE...(US SOIL!), INSIDE the "Canal
>Zone", From US parents who were working for the US Government!
>Instant US Citizenry, you dork.
>
>http://panamaliving.com/CSmap2.jpg
response from link you supplied..
"You are attempting to link to a photo which does not belong to public
domain..... snip"
from another blog..
"John McCain was not born on a military base nor even in the Canal
Zone. John Sidney McCain III was born at the Colon Hospital, located
at Avenida Melendez and 2nd Street, Manzanillo Island, City of Colon,
Republic of Panama. The time of birth on the birth certificate issued
by Panama Railroad Company (which owned the Colon Hospital) was 5:25
PM and the day and date of birth was Saturday, August 29, 1936"
>
>How many more times are you going to prove that you are always wrong...
>and really stupid?
http://johnmccain.dominates.us/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=145&sid=d210816f2f0432876db8ad452619a0e5
Includes .jpg of McCains BC.. Notarized/witnessed by spanish/panamian
officials.
And from the Panama canal zone treaty..
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/pan001.asp
"with the proviso that the cities of Panama and Colon and the harbors
adjacent to said cities, which are included within the boundaries of
the zone above described, shall not be included within this grant."
Looks like we just avoided a constitutional crisis.
jkl...@idseal.com
> Got any "IMPEACH OBAMA" stickers yet?
Why? Are you expecting Obama to voluntarily slaughter thousands of
Americans for absolutely no good reason, like Bush did?
jkl...@idseal.com
<colefirearm...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Got any "IMPEACH OBAMA" stickers yet?
>
> We don't need to impeach him, obama is not an American citizen.
> Therefore he can never be President.
Huh? Obama was born in the US - it's McCain who wasn't.
Gary Lane
Great googily Moogly!
Are all of you idiots?
How many times must it be explained to you mental retards
that both of those losers were indeed BORN as US CITIZENS, and ON USA soil?
dogbertm...@gmail.com
> On Nov 5, 3:54 pm, "Schlitzy" <schepp...@thehole.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:4911ce30$0$5503$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
>
> > > it has to be acknowledged that obama rose from a humble beginning, grew
> > > up
> > > come
> > > unscathed from it all, and rose to the top among the best educated. his
> > > fast
> > > rise in the hostile world of politics is less stunning but more
> > > popular. he
> > > deserves everybody's respect, and mr. mccain's concession speech was
> > > exemplary.
>
> > > well, what next? seems like obama is rightly motivated to do the right
> > > thing. but i think biden has it right when he said obama will be tested
> > > severely. my only concern is that obama would flood usa with millions
> > > of
> > > muslims - wittingly or unwittingly - as an expresson of his gratitutde.
> > > i
> > > would hate to see usa getting checkmated in its own home by a large
> > > islamic
> > > political base as it has happened in europe: britian already has sharia
> > > courts. netherland and belgium are already choked up, and even france
> > > is
> > > well headed that way. today only usa and israel speak for freedom. for
> > > how
> > > long is the question given the declining white population in usa.
>
> > We actually want you Repukes to move out of US, go to Guam so you can
> > fuck each other over there Punk!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Sorry craps but we are here to stay and we will remind you of every
> fucking promise that you break and of every lie that you tell. We
> will also promise to give Obama the same respect and support that all
> you craps have given Bush for the last eight years.
Why?
Bush earned the contempt he got. He is junk.
Obama is a good man. There's the difference, right there.
You owe Obama a fair shake before trashing him, like we gave Bush.
BobR
>
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Sorry but I don't owe him anything...period. I will not trash him as
was done with Bush from the first day he took office in 2000 but I
will do exactly as I said above, remind him and you of every broken
promise and every lie. Even that will be more than many gave Bush.
Klaus Schadenfreude
He could have been born on the moon, numbskull. His parents were
citizens.
He was born IN the Canal Zone, however.
"Mr. McCain was born on a military installation in the Canal Zone,
where his mother and father, a Navy officer, were stationed."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/politics/28mccain.html
Are you TRYING to look stupid?
Klaus Schadenfreude
>On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:23:46 -0500, Gary Lane <TheSta...@bass.gov>
>wrote:
>
>>T. Keating wrote:
>>> On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:30:18 -0500, T. Keating <tkus...@ktcnslt.com>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>Meanwhile.. McCain.. Was born OUTSIDE the USA.. in Panama.
>>
>>> outside the canal zone.. In a panamian hostpital..
>>
>>You Idiot.
>> He was born at a US NAVAL/AIR BASE...(US SOIL!), INSIDE the "Canal
>>Zone", From US parents who were working for the US Government!
>>Instant US Citizenry, you dork.
>>
>>http://panamaliving.com/CSmap2.jpg
>
>response from link you supplied..
>"You are attempting to link to a photo which does not belong to public
>domain..... snip"
>
>from another blog..
>
>"John McCain was not born on a military base nor even in the Canal
>Zone. John Sidney McCain III was born at the Colon Hospital, located
>at Avenida Melendez and 2nd Street, Manzanillo Island, City of Colon,
>Republic of Panama. The time of birth on the birth certificate issued
>by Panama Railroad Company (which owned the Colon Hospital) was 5:25
>PM and the day and date of birth was Saturday, August 29, 1936"
>
Oooooooooooh. a BLOG! Well, then, the only thing more citable than a
blog would be.... what? An AOL chain letter?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/politics/28mccain.html
Mr. McCain was born on a military installation in the Canal Zone,
where his mother and father, a Navy officer, were stationed.
The likely Republican nominee was born on a U.S. naval base in 1936 in
the Panama Canal Zone.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23841816/
the presumptive Republican nominee, who was born nearly 72 years ago
in a military hospital in the Panama Canal Zone, then under U.S.
jurisdiction.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/01/AR2008050103224.html
You just make yourself look stupider every time you post.
Cole Firearms Inc.
Yes, maybe hundreds of thousands.
T. Keating
The hospital he was born at ... was located in the city of Colon..
WHICH WAS NOT INCLUDED in the Canal ZONE TREATY..
Ergo.. John McCain was not born on US soil.
>Are you TRYING to look stupid?
You're the dumb one who is acting like a low IQ type.
Klaus Schadenfreude
I've provided three news sources that say he was born in the canal
zone. You've provided.... someone's blog. Yer gonna have to do better,
sport.
>>Are you TRYING to look stupid?
>
>You're the dumb one who is acting like a low IQ type.
Prove a verifiable cite, my boy. Until then, you're just a low-brow
dufus.
Klaus Schadenfreude
By the way, numb nuts, he doesn't have to be born on U.S. soil. He
could have been born on the moon and still be a citizen.
You're new at this, aren't you?
T. Keating
<klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Let's see.. the links I provided in posting..
Message-ID: <oru8h49juhmteevn5...@4ax.com>
Included .jpg images of McCains official Birth certificate showing
the location(city of colon) and the name of hostpital.
And the 1903 treaty which defines that both Panama city (Panama's
capital) and Colon are speifically NOT PART of the CANAL ZONE treaty
and remained Panamian soil.
>>>Are you TRYING to look stupid?
>>
>>You're the dumb one who is acting like a low IQ type.
>
>Prove a verifiable cite, my boy. Until then, you're just a low-brow
>dufus.
Now.. keep on looking like the idiot you really are.
Klaus Schadenfreude
[chuckle]
>of McCains official Birth certificate showing
>the location(city of colon) and the name of hostpital.
Here is a jpeg image of my passport:
http://www.apathysketchpad.com/images/uploads/mushport.jpg
What kind of fuckwit ARE you, anyway?
> And the 1903 treaty which defines that both Panama city (Panama's
>capital) and Colon are speifically NOT PART of the CANAL ZONE treaty
>and remained Panamian soil.
>
>>>>Are you TRYING to look stupid?
>>>
>>>You're the dumb one who is acting like a low IQ type.
>>
>>Prove a verifiable cite, my boy. Until then, you're just a low-brow
>>dufus.
>
>
> [crickets.wav]
>
>
>
>
Still waiting for the verifiable cite.
T. Keating
He has to be a NATURAL BORN citizen to qualify for the office. (The
constitution contained another clause which qualified foreign born who
were citizens at the time of the ratification of the constitution
.....a one shot amnesty deal for obvious reasons).
>You're new at this, aren't you?
Actually, you're treading in a discussion group relevant to my
occupation 'a.c.c' . My usenet posting's probably predate the first
time you typed on your first keyboard.
Lastly.. The constitutionality (and timing) of any particular law
amending the definition of "natural born" is suspect until it
successfully survives a Supreme court challenge.
Klaus Schadenfreude
>On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 13:15:59 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
><klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>In talk.politics.guns T. Keating <tkus...@ktcnslt.com> wrote:
>>
>>>The hospital he was born at ... was located in the city of Colon..
>>> WHICH WAS NOT INCLUDED in the Canal ZONE TREATY..
>>> Ergo.. John McCain was not born on US soil.
>>
>>By the way, numb nuts, he doesn't have to be born on U.S. soil. He
>>could have been born on the moon and still be a citizen.
>
>
>He has to be a NATURAL BORN citizen to qualify for the office.
If he's born of American parents he's natural born.
>>You're new at this, aren't you?
>
>Actually, you're treading in a discussion group relevant to my
>occupation 'a.c.c' . My usenet posting's probably predate the first
>time you typed on your first keyboard.
I meant "thinking." You've obviously been trolling for a long, long
time.
>Lastly.. The constitutionality (and timing) of any particular law
>amending the definition of "natural born" is suspect until it
>successfully survives a Supreme court challenge.
It's never gonna get to the SC, because rational, reasonable people
know McCain has been a US citizen from the moment he was born, no
matter WHERE he was born, although he both know he was born in the
U.S.
Darth Chaos
<colefirearm...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> We don't need to impeach him, obama is not an American citizen.
> Therefore he can never be President.
>
> We are in a Constitutional crisis.
>
> By defalt John McCain is President.
If Obama isn't a citizen and is allowed to remain president, then
Ahnuld can run in 2012. :-)
Schlitzy
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Sorry but we American don't like your diseased crap, worse than ours.