76 days and counting...
Benj
Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and bury it in the
backyard...
After that Obama has already promised to spend as much money on a
"security" Gestapo as we currently spend on the military. Fighting
"gun crime" and "taking guns off the street" will give them all
something to do.
Bert Hyman
<pon...@uscb.edu> wrote:
> He will fight gun crime.
And if he continues as he has in the past, he'll be asking Congress to
define a lot more "gun crimes".
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com
Bill Smith
wrote:
>President-elect Obama. Inauguration is 20 January 2009.
>
>Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and bury it in the
>backyard...
There's a lot on the Democrat agenda that they won't be willing to
risk over a pointless fight about guns right now. I could certainly be
wrong but they don't want to make the same mistakes Clinton did and
lose effective control over Congress in just two years. Unless there's
some kind of high profile mass shooting, don't expect the democratic
leadership to say much about guns. The usual suspects in Congress will
be trying things, but I don't expect it will get much traction.
Bill Smith
Gary Lane
> In news:vuo3h49425r7blnog...@4ax.com Judge Piglet
> <pon...@uscb.edu> wrote:
>
>
>>He will fight gun crime.
> And if he continues as he has in the past, he'll be asking Congress to
> define a lot more "gun crimes".
Being as guns can't commit or cause crime, his point is rather moot, eh?
Gary Lane
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:19:55 -0800 (PST), Benj <bja...@iwaynet.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>President-elect Obama. Inauguration is 20 January 2009.
>>
>>Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and bury it in the
>>backyard...
>
>
> There's a lot on the Democrat agenda
The idiots have spoken, sadly.
Kinda explains why the FRENCH now say they like the USA!
RB
I agree, as do people much smarter than I.
The balance of power is almost exactly what it was after the 1992
elections. Obama won by almost the exact same popular vote margin that
Clinton did, and they would up with about the same percentages in the
House and Senate. In 1994 they lost both houses, in large part because
of the gun ban. The Democrats have not forgotten that lesson, and we
should remind them every chance we get.
Bert Hyman
<TheSta...@bass.gov> wrote:
Guns can certainly "cause crime" if you write the law to make it so.
Crimes are what the government makes them out to be.
Bert Hyman
<pon...@uscb.edu> wrote:
> As you said, another mass shooting might bring that about.
Well, try not to get any on you.
Benj
> Guns can certainly "cause crime" if you write the law to make it so.
>
> Crimes are what the government makes them out to be.
Sure. I expect possession of certain kinds of firearms (yet to be
determined) to soon be a crime. That ought to "get them off the
street" as the saying goes.
Bert Hyman
news:fb392c3b-ed6c-4a7a...@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com
Benj <bja...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
Just like alcohol prohibition removed booze from America and the War on
(Some) Drugs ended that scourge.
Are you a shill for organized crime?
Gary Lane
> In news:4911eb02$0$14301$607e...@cv.net Gary Lane
> <TheSta...@bass.gov> wrote:
>
>
>>Bert Hyman wrote:
>>
>>>In news:vuo3h49425r7blnog...@4ax.com Judge Piglet
>>><pon...@uscb.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>He will fight gun crime.
>>
>>>And if he continues as he has in the past, he'll be asking Congress
>>>to define a lot more "gun crimes".
>>
>>Being as guns can't commit or cause crime, his point is rather moot,
>>eh?
>
>
> Guns can certainly "cause crime" if you write the law to make it so.
>
> Crimes are what the government makes them out to be.
Well, there is that.
Certainly we are now doomed! :(
Gary Lane
> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 13:52:00 -0500, Gary Lane <TheSta...@bass.gov>
> wrote:
>>The idiots have spoken, sadly.
>>Kinda explains why the FRENCH now say they like the USA!
> 'bout time. No one else did. I think it's a great start.
The French are just one of the Idiots I was speaking of.
As idiots, they now approve of the "bigger (wanna-be) nigger".
Wayne
"Benj" <bja...@iwaynet.net> wrote in message
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the supply of handguns in 2010. If I calculate correctly that makes 14
handgun purchases possible.
RD (The Sandman)
news:vuo3h49425r7blnog...@4ax.com:
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:19:55 -0800 (PST), Benj <bja...@iwaynet.net>
> wrote:
>
> He will fight gun crime. Burying your guns is going to make you look
> very foolish. You need to learn to not overreact like some hyper
> child. Gun crime IS going to be fought, with or without your
> cooperation.
As long as they go after criminals and the causes of crime, they will get
all the support from us they can handle. If they start going after Joe
Gunowner, than again, they may get all they can handle.
--
Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman)
http://home.comcast.net/~rdsandman
"Be who you are and say what you feel...Because those that
matter...don't mind...And those that mind...don't matter."
RD (The Sandman)
> On 05 Nov 2008 18:28:08 GMT, Bert Hyman <be...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>
>>In news:vuo3h49425r7blnog...@4ax.com Judge Piglet
>><pon...@uscb.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> He will fight gun crime.
>>
>>And if he continues as he has in the past, he'll be asking Congress to
>>define a lot more "gun crimes".
>
>
> If they're crimes, then they should be defined.
That's the problem. Many of them aren't crimes today.
Scout
"Judge Piglet" <pon...@uscb.edu> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:59:36 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Judge Piglet <pon...@uscb.edu> wrote in
>>news:vuo3h49425r7blnog...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:19:55 -0800 (PST), Benj <bja...@iwaynet.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>President-elect Obama. Inauguration is 20 January 2009.
>>>>
>>>>Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and bury it in the
>>>>backyard...
>>>
>>>>After that Obama has already promised to spend as much money on a
>>>>"security" Gestapo as we currently spend on the military. Fighting
>>>>"gun crime" and "taking guns off the street" will give them all
>>>>something to do.
>>>>
>>>
>>> He will fight gun crime. Burying your guns is going to make you look
>>> very foolish. You need to learn to not overreact like some hyper
>>> child. Gun crime IS going to be fought, with or without your
>>> cooperation.
>>
>>As long as they go after criminals and the causes of crime, they will get
>>all the support from us they can handle. If they start going after Joe
>>Gunowner, than again, they may get all they can handle.
>
>
> to collect our guns. That is ludicrous.
That might be his intent, but his voting record would indicate something
else. Either it's not his intent or he's voting for things he doesn't
understand. Neither speaks well of Obama.
HeyBub
Only in silly* states. In Texas, I can buy 14 handguns this afternoon.
-----
* What if you wanted to buy a collection? I heard of one chap who owned
2,000 guns of all kinds. If he were in your state, it would take over 150
years to accumulate such a collection.
What if you inherited a set of guns from a late relative? Does that count?
Bill Smith
wrote:
The micro stamping law only applies to new guns added to the approved
list. Those already on it will be grandfathered in. The (legal) supply
of handguns will dry up eventually, probably, but it will take a
while, years, actually.
Bill Smith
SaPeIsMa
"HeyBub" <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
news:NKCdnQCXW_fxj4_U...@earthlink.com...
> Wayne wrote:
>> "Benj" <bja...@iwaynet.net> wrote in message
>> news:d7aa27f9-5a2b-42df...@v22g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
>>> President-elect Obama. Inauguration is 20 January 2009.
>>>
>>> Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and bury it in the
>>> backyard...
>>>
>>> After that Obama has already promised to spend as much money on a
>>> "security" Gestapo as we currently spend on the military. Fighting
>>> "gun crime" and "taking guns off the street" will give them all
>>> something to do.
>>>
>>>
>> That gives me 76 days and 12 months before the CA microstamping law
>> dries up the supply of handguns in 2010. If I calculate correctly
>> that makes 14 handgun purchases possible.
>
> Only in silly* states. In Texas, I can buy 14 handguns this afternoon.
>
Actually, according to my FFL, if you purchase more than one gun within the
same week from the same FFL, he has to file a report that goes to the ATF
and local police.
Now this may be only a Mn thing. But the way he explained it, it's not
Can anyone clear this up for me ?
Bert Hyman
<pon...@uscb.edu> wrote:
> Guns are not his first and foremost focus.
But they must be yours.
You're the one who brought up the inventive "gun crimes" in this thread.
And, I notice the sole group to which you're posting.
RB
That is true. My FFL would receive multiple items, then let me pick them
up every week until they were gone.
All the more reason to buy local for cash.
Wayne
"Bill Smith" <quan...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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-
The most distant expiration on the approved list at this moment is 12/31/09.
Unless CA DOJ adds to that list, microstamped guns (that have been submitted
for test, and passed) will be the only legal new handgun sales after
1/1/2010. The used market will probably boom for years after
that.....pending further restrictions :(
Jim Casey
> Actually, according to my FFL, if you purchase more than one gun within
> the same week from the same FFL, he has to file a report that goes to
> the ATF and local police.
> Now this may be only a Mn thing. But the way he explained it, it's not
> Can anyone clear this up for me ?
It's a federal law. You can find it on the BATFE FAQ site.
- Jim
Bill Smith
wrote:
As I understand it, at or before the expiration date the manufacturer
has to pay a fee to keep it on the list, it doesn't have to be
re-approved and it doesn't have to be micro stamp capable.
Bill Smith
pyotr filipivich
<bja...@iwaynet.net> wrote on Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:19:55 -0800 (PST) in
talk.politics.guns :
>President-elect Obama. Inauguration is 20 January 2009.
>
>Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and bury it in the
>backyard...
>
>After that Obama has already promised to spend as much money on a
>"security" Gestapo as we currently spend on the military. Fighting
>"gun crime" and "taking guns off the street" will give them all
>something to do.
Good.
Google "Nightline 1998"
Have fun.
pyotr
--
pyotr filipivich
"Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. "
Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 45 AD
(A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer's hands.)
James Hatten
"pyotr filipivich" <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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What about Nightline?
kuikahi
> President-elect Obama. Inauguration is 20 January 2009.
>
> Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and bury it in the
> backyard...
>
> After that Obama has already promised to spend as much money on a
> "security" Gestapo as we currently spend on the military. Fighting
> "gun crime" and "taking guns off the street" will give them all
> something to do.
Fuck you...you lost..deal with it.
You can suck Bush's cock when he leaves office
Fift...@abcnnbcbs.com
<datal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Fuck you...you lost..deal with it.
>You can suck Bush's cock when he leaves office
More cock sucking eh? You need to get over to San Fran Nan's. I hear
she's holding a wake since the legalized prostitution proposal went
"down". And Barney Frank is going to be there. I imagine s/he needs
a date.
Cole Firearms Inc.
> President-elect Obama. Inauguration is 20 January 2009.
>
> Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and bury it in the
> backyard...
>
> After that Obama has already promised to spend as much money on a
> "security" Gestapo as we currently spend on the military. Fighting
> "gun crime" and "taking guns off the street" will give them all
> something to do.
>
>
Are the terrorists going to attack in 76 days?
And if they do, is obama responsible?
I say maybe and yes.
Cole Firearms Inc.
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:19:55 -0800 (PST), Benj <bja...@iwaynet.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>President-elect Obama. Inauguration is 20 January 2009.
>>
>>Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and bury it in the
>>backyard...
>
>
>>After that Obama has already promised to spend as much money on a
>>"security" Gestapo as we currently spend on the military. Fighting
>>"gun crime" and "taking guns off the street" will give them all
>>something to do.
>>
>
>
> He will fight gun crime. Burying your guns is going to make you look
> very foolish. You need to learn to not overreact like some hyper
> child. Gun crime IS going to be fought, with or without your
> cooperation.
I choose without!
Cole Firearms Inc.
> People are nothing to you. Human life is expendable. The killing can
> go on and you'll look the other way.
Not true, I would stop and take pictures. I have quite a collection.
The only thing dear to your
> heart is your gun. That's unfortunate for you.
It may not be the only thing, but it is in the top 5!
General Savage
You are more proof that liberalism is a very serious mental disorder.
Stephan Rothstein
If you purchase multiple handguns within a certain time period (one week
I think), it must be reported to the ATF by the FFL. This is a federal law.
But, it does not affect the actual purchase. It is not like he has to
ask permission or anything. All he does is send them a form afterwards.
Steve Rothstein
Morton Davis
"Benj" <bja...@iwaynet.net> wrote in message
news:d7aa27f9-5a2b-42df...@v22g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
> President-elect Obama. Inauguration is 20 January 2009.
>
> Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and bury it in the
> backyard...
>
> After that Obama has already promised to spend as much money on a
> "security" Gestapo as we currently spend on the military. Fighting
> "gun crime" and "taking guns off the street" will give them all
> something to do.
>
>
knife through butter?
Benj
> Actually, according to my FFL, if you purchase more than one gun within the
> same week from the same FFL, he has to file a report that goes to the ATF
> and local police.
> Now this may be only a Mn thing. But the way he explained it, it's not
> Can anyone clear this up for me ?
No it's a federal thing and it's been on the books a long time. I
recall buying two "sale" .38s at once for gifts and the dealer looked
at me like I was nuts. He didn't say anything, but clearly didn't
approve. But as far as I was concerned the anti-gunners (in and out of
government) already knew exactly who I was, so I wasn't revealing any
secrets to anyone.
Gray Ghost
news:lkl4h4l5hc4cj8av4...@4ax.com:
> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:25:13 -0600, "Cole Firearms Inc."
><colefir...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> People are nothing to you. Human life is expendable. The killing can
> go on and you'll look the other way. The only thing dear to your
> heart is your gun. That's unfortunate for you.
>
>
> ¿Por qué el Dios del Oriente Medio tiene que
> ser el Dios para todos?
> ¿No es eso un poco arrogante?
>
> The Semi-Honorable Judge Pontius
> Pigglesworth, presiding
>
>
>
>
Says the supporter of the Modern Holocaust.
--
Always remember:
Bull Connor was a Democrat!
Gray Ghost
> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:32:30 -0600, "Cole Firearms Inc."
> sorry to hear that. move along. it's those like you that make gun
> control necessary. it will be out of your hands.
Now explain to everyone how a person who is not a criminal but who regards gun
ownership as very important makes gun control neccessary.
>
>
> ¿Por qué el Dios del Oriente Medio tiene que
> ser el Dios para todos?
> ¿No es eso un poco arrogante?
>
> The Semi-Honorable Judge Pontius
> Pigglesworth, presiding
>
>
>
>
--
Gray Ghost
> On 05 Nov 2008 18:58:40 GMT, Bert Hyman <be...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>
>>In news:8fq3h4dbmev6jcbe8...@4ax.com Judge Piglet
>><pon...@uscb.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> As you said, another mass shooting might bring that about.
>>
>>Well, try not to get any on you.
>
>
> Oh, I didn't expect you to much care about it. They're only people.
So were the million plus aborted last year. Your selective moral outrage is
amusing.
>
>
> Já alguma vez dançou com o diabo ao luar?
Gray Ghost
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:38:53 -0600, "HeyBub" <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Wayne wrote:
>>> "Benj" <bja...@iwaynet.net> wrote in message
>>> news:d7aa27f9-5a2b-42df...@v22g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
>>>> President-elect Obama. Inauguration is 20 January 2009.
>>>>
>>>> Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and bury it in the
>>>> backyard...
>>>>
>>>> After that Obama has already promised to spend as much money on a
>>>> "security" Gestapo as we currently spend on the military. Fighting
>>>> "gun crime" and "taking guns off the street" will give them all
>>>> something to do.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That gives me 76 days and 12 months before the CA microstamping law
>>> dries up the supply of handguns in 2010. If I calculate correctly
>>> that makes 14 handgun purchases possible.
>>
>>Only in silly* states. In Texas, I can buy 14 handguns this afternoon.
>>
>
> There's something wrong with that.
Yes but slaughtering the inncoent is OK.
Scout
IOW, it's extortion plain and simple.
RM v2.0
>>> That gives me 76 days and 12 months before the CA microstamping law
>>> dries up the supply of handguns in 2010. If I calculate correctly
>>> that makes 14 handgun purchases possible.
>>
>>
>
> the same week from the same FFL, he has to file a report that goes to the
> ATF and local police.
> Now this may be only a Mn thing. But the way he explained it, it's not
> Can anyone clear this up for me ?
>
>
>
>
>
Bert Hyman
<SaPe...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
> Actually, according to my FFL, if you purchase more than one gun
> within the same week from the same FFL, he has to file a report that
> goes to the ATF and local police.
> Now this may be only a Mn thing. But the way he explained it, it's not
> Can anyone clear this up for me ?
>
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#f5
If you sell or dispose of more than one handgun to any
non-licensee during a period of 5 consecutive business days, the
sale must be reported on ATF Form 3310.4, Report of Multiple
Sale or Other Disposition of Pistols and Revolvers, not later
than the close of the business day on which you sold or disposed
of the second handgun. ...
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com
Wayne
"Scout" <4g...@earthlink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
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approved, the manufacturer cannot sell the same gun in any other finish
without going through the whole process again for each variation. (including
barrel length). It's like GM having to get every car approved for all color
and accessory options.
It looks like variations of a particular gun that are not on the list as of
1/1/2010 cannot be added to the list after that date without microstamping.
But, with a little money under the table......who knows.
Bill Smith
>>
>> As I understand it, at or before the expiration date the manufacturer
>> has to pay a fee to keep it on the list, it doesn't have to be
>> re-approved and it doesn't have to be micro stamp capable.
>
>IOW, it's extortion plain and simple.
>
Bill Smith
pyotr filipivich
<photoni...@earthlink.net> wrote on Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:12:59
-0800 in talk.politics.guns :
I should have been a bit more specific: Google "nightline 1998
group:talk.politics.guns"
back in the good Old Days of Bubbah Clinton, the cosmetically
challenged firearm ban was enacted (Aka the "Assault Weapon Ban").
Several bits of 'fanfic' were written. One of them was titled
"Nightline, September 11, 1998"." and was a 'transcript' of the show,
which was about yet another failure of a ATF Gun Police raid. Acting
on an anonymous tip of unregistered firearms, the "Gun Cops" were
ambushed and killed to the last man - including the guy with the
cam-corder. Which is what the "show" started off with - that video
tape. (Now a days, it would be on Youtube till the Feds stepped in,
but hey ... "Information wants to be free.")
When it was written, Newt Gingrich was speaker of the House and
considered by the Democrats to be an extremist. In this story,
Gingrich is now a "moderate Republican".
Point of the exercise: if another gun ban is enacted, their
Governmental violence is likely to be met with our citizen violence,
and there are still more of 'us' than 'them' (it doesn't take a
lot.). It doesn't have to be a repeat of the AWB, there will be a
tipping point of some nature, and someone will successfully "resist
tyranny" and serve as the catalyst. And a percentage of the populace
will consider themselves at war with the government, and will act
accordingly. I'm not saying that _all_ will take up arms, but right
now, on the bell curve, there are no serious numbers involved in
active activities against the government. But shift that bell curve a
fraction, and more of those who would have merely considered shooting
government agents, will now be in the "shooting government agents"
group. As more of those who hadn't thought about it, think about. As
more of those who supported the government become more "qualified" -
nunaced - in their support.
There is an old saying in political science: ten percent make it
happen, ten percent know what happened, and 80% wonder what happened.
It was so in 1776, 1688, 1936, 1793, 1917 and 1991.
tschus
Gray Ghost
> Shut up and deal with it or leave the fucking country you dishonest,
> lying coward. Now back in your kill file and ponder your LOSS!!!
> ROFL@U
>
>
> ¿Por qué el Dios del Oriente Medio tiene que
> ser el Dios para todos?
> ¿No es eso un poco arrogante?
>
> The Semi-Honorable Judge Pontius
> Pigglesworth, presiding
>
>
>
>
Apparently the truth is to terrible to face.
professorgunz
He's also poof that, even when they win, they still can't stop drooling
expletive-laden venom. They're hilarious.
RD (The Sandman)
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>
> "HeyBub" <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:NKCdnQCXW_fxj4_U...@earthlink.com...
>> Wayne wrote:
>>> "Benj" <bja...@iwaynet.net> wrote in message
>>> news:d7aa27f9-5a2b-42df...@v22g2000pro.googlegroups.co
>>> m...
>>>> President-elect Obama. Inauguration is 20 January 2009.
>>>>
>>>> Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and bury it in the
>>>> backyard...
>>>>
>>>> After that Obama has already promised to spend as much money on a
>>>> "security" Gestapo as we currently spend on the military. Fighting
>>>> "gun crime" and "taking guns off the street" will give them all
>>>> something to do.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That gives me 76 days and 12 months before the CA microstamping law
>>> dries up the supply of handguns in 2010. If I calculate correctly
>>> that makes 14 handgun purchases possible.
>>
>> Only in silly* states. In Texas, I can buy 14 handguns this
>> afternoon.
>>
>
> Actually, according to my FFL, if you purchase more than one gun
> within the same week from the same FFL, he has to file a report that
> goes to the ATF and local police.
> Now this may be only a Mn thing. But the way he explained it, it's not
> Can anyone clear this up for me ?
IFAIK, it's federal.
--
Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman)
http://home.comcast.net/~rdsandman
"Be who you are and say what you feel...Because those that
matter...don't mind...And those that mind...don't matter."
RD (The Sandman)
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:38:53 -0600, "HeyBub" <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Wayne wrote:
>>> "Benj" <bja...@iwaynet.net> wrote in message
>>> news:d7aa27f9-5a2b-42df...@v22g2000pro.googlegroups.co
>>> m...
>>>> President-elect Obama. Inauguration is 20 January 2009.
>>>>
>>>> Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and bury it in the
>>>> backyard...
>>>>
>>>> After that Obama has already promised to spend as much money on a
>>>> "security" Gestapo as we currently spend on the military. Fighting
>>>> "gun crime" and "taking guns off the street" will give them all
>>>> something to do.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That gives me 76 days and 12 months before the CA microstamping law
>>> dries up the supply of handguns in 2010. If I calculate correctly
>>> that makes 14 handgun purchases possible.
>>
>>Only in silly* states. In Texas, I can buy 14 handguns this afternoon.
>>
>
> There's something wrong with that.
Why? Perhaps, they are Xmas gifts.
The Lone Weasel
> "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@Hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:t7KdnYsbXNQxhI_U...@posted.cpinternet:
>
>>
>> "HeyBub" <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:NKCdnQCXW_fxj4_U...@earthlink.com...
>>> Wayne wrote:
>>>> "Benj" <bja...@iwaynet.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:d7aa27f9-5a2b-42df...@v22g2000pro.goo
>>>> glegroups.co m...
>>>>> President-elect Obama. Inauguration is 20 January
>>>>> 2009.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and
>>>>> bury it in the backyard...
>>>>>
>>>>> After that Obama has already promised to spend as much
>>>>> money on a "security" Gestapo as we currently spend on
>>>>> the military. Fighting "gun crime" and "taking guns off
>>>>> the street" will give them all something to do.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> That gives me 76 days and 12 months before the CA
>>>> microstamping law dries up the supply of handguns in
>>>> 2010. If I calculate correctly that makes 14 handgun
>>>> purchases possible.
>>>
>>> Only in silly* states. In Texas, I can buy 14 handguns
>>> this afternoon.
>>>
>>
>> Actually, according to my FFL, if you purchase more than
>> one gun within the same week from the same FFL, he has to
>> file a report that goes to the ATF and local police.
>> Now this may be only a Mn thing. But the way he explained
>> it, it's not Can anyone clear this up for me ?
>
> IFAIK, it's federal.
And now all gun laws can be federal. All state gun laws that
conflict with federal regulations will become
unconstitutional.
See DC v. Heller.
--
Yours truly,
The Lone Weasel
RD (The Sandman)
> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:59:36 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Judge Piglet <pon...@uscb.edu> wrote in
>>news:vuo3h49425r7blnog...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:19:55 -0800 (PST), Benj <bja...@iwaynet.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>President-elect Obama. Inauguration is 20 January 2009.
>>>>
>>>>Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and bury it in the
>>>>backyard...
>>>
>>>>After that Obama has already promised to spend as much money on a
>>>>"security" Gestapo as we currently spend on the military. Fighting
>>>>"gun crime" and "taking guns off the street" will give them all
>>>>something to do.
>>>>
>>>
>>> He will fight gun crime. Burying your guns is going to make you
>>> look very foolish. You need to learn to not overreact like some
>>> hyper child. Gun crime IS going to be fought, with or without your
>>> cooperation.
>>
>>As long as they go after criminals and the causes of crime, they will
>>get all the support from us they can handle. If they start going
>>after Joe Gunowner, than again, they may get all they can handle.
>
>
> and I truly believe that is Obama's intent. I do not see him trying
> to collect our guns. That is ludicrous.
Yep, but it matches his previous stances and his voting record.
RD (The Sandman)
> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:00:11 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Judge Piglet <pon...@uscb.edu> wrote in
>>news:lhp3h45b4be6i9hvm...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On 05 Nov 2008 18:28:08 GMT, Bert Hyman <be...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In news:vuo3h49425r7blnog...@4ax.com Judge Piglet
>>>><pon...@uscb.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> He will fight gun crime.
>>>>
>>>>And if he continues as he has in the past, he'll be asking Congress
>>>>to define a lot more "gun crimes".
>>>
>>>
>>> If they're crimes, then they should be defined.
>>
>>That's the problem. Many of them aren't crimes today.
>
>
> I think we need to give the man a break. Guns are not his first and
> foremost focus.
No one is claiming that they are, however, for many in here, it is their
first and foremost focus.
RD (The Sandman)
> On 05 Nov 2008 22:20:38 GMT, Bert Hyman <be...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>
>>In news:n244h49jf25omd5ho...@4ax.com Judge Piglet
>><pon...@uscb.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Guns are not his first and foremost focus.
>>
>>But they must be yours.
>>
>>You're the one who brought up the inventive "gun crimes" in this
>>thread.
>
> I am not. I responded to another poster's message.
Now, yes. When you first showed up in this group you were touting that
none of should have a gun that fired more than one shot and was limited
to 100 yards.
>>And, I notice the sole group to which you're posting.
>
> I've always been in this group. I read and post to this group. What's
> the problem?
Perhaps, since you started posting. However, compared to most in here,
you are a newbie. ;)
RD (The Sandman)
1edfe7...@o4g2000pra.googlegroups.com:
> On Nov 5, 10:19 am, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
>> President-elect Obama. Inauguration is 20 January 2009.
>>
>> Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and bury it in the
>> backyard...
>>
>> After that Obama has already promised to spend as much money on a
>> "security" Gestapo as we currently spend on the military. Fighting
>> "gun crime" and "taking guns off the street" will give them all
>> something to do.
>
> Fuck you...you lost..deal with it.
> You can suck Bush's cock when he leaves office
>
Why are you guys so interested in what happens to other fella's cocks?
Omelet
"RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
> kuikahi <datal...@gmail.com> wrote in news:c84a6eca-7ede-49e6-88fe-
> 1edfe7...@o4g2000pra.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Nov 5, 10:19 am, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
> >> President-elect Obama. Inauguration is 20 January 2009.
> >>
> >> Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and bury it in the
> >> backyard...
> >>
> >> After that Obama has already promised to spend as much money on a
> >> "security" Gestapo as we currently spend on the military. Fighting
> >> "gun crime" and "taking guns off the street" will give them all
> >> something to do.
> >
> > Fuck you...you lost..deal with it.
> > You can suck Bush's cock when he leaves office
> >
>
> Why are you guys so interested in what happens to other fella's cocks?
'cause theirs is missing.
--
Peace! Om
"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama
RD (The Sandman)
160F1B.123...@news.giganews.com:
> In article <Xns9B4F74AE6...@216.196.97.131>,
> "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> kuikahi <datal...@gmail.com> wrote in news:c84a6eca-7ede-49e6-88fe-
>> 1edfe7...@o4g2000pra.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > On Nov 5, 10:19 am, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
>> >> President-elect Obama. Inauguration is 20 January 2009.
>> >>
>> >> Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and bury it in the
>> >> backyard...
>> >>
>> >> After that Obama has already promised to spend as much money on a
>> >> "security" Gestapo as we currently spend on the military. Fighting
>> >> "gun crime" and "taking guns off the street" will give them all
>> >> something to do.
>> >
>> > Fuck you...you lost..deal with it.
>> > You can suck Bush's cock when he leaves office
>> >
>>
>> Why are you guys so interested in what happens to other fella's cocks?
>
> 'cause theirs is missing.
Damn, I just thought it was their balls. ;)
Omelet
"RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
> Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote in news:ompomelet-
> 160F1B.123...@news.giganews.com:
>
> > In article <Xns9B4F74AE6...@216.196.97.131>,
> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> kuikahi <datal...@gmail.com> wrote in news:c84a6eca-7ede-49e6-88fe-
> >> 1edfe7...@o4g2000pra.googlegroups.com:
> >>
> >> > On Nov 5, 10:19 am, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
> >> >> President-elect Obama. Inauguration is 20 January 2009.
> >> >>
> >> >> Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and bury it in the
> >> >> backyard...
> >> >>
> >> >> After that Obama has already promised to spend as much money on a
> >> >> "security" Gestapo as we currently spend on the military. Fighting
> >> >> "gun crime" and "taking guns off the street" will give them all
> >> >> something to do.
> >> >
> >> > Fuck you...you lost..deal with it.
> >> > You can suck Bush's cock when he leaves office
> >> >
> >>
> >> Why are you guys so interested in what happens to other fella's cocks?
> >
> > 'cause theirs is missing.
>
> Damn, I just thought it was their balls. ;)
<chuckles>
RD (The Sandman)
> On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:25:02 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Judge Piglet <pon...@uscb.edu> wrote in
>>news:n244h49jf25omd5ho...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:00:11 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
>>> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Judge Piglet <pon...@uscb.edu> wrote in
>>>>news:lhp3h45b4be6i9hvm...@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On 05 Nov 2008 18:28:08 GMT, Bert Hyman <be...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In news:vuo3h49425r7blnog...@4ax.com Judge Piglet
>>>>>><pon...@uscb.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He will fight gun crime.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And if he continues as he has in the past, he'll be asking
>>>>>>Congress to define a lot more "gun crimes".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If they're crimes, then they should be defined.
>>>>
>>>>That's the problem. Many of them aren't crimes today.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think we need to give the man a break. Guns are not his first and
>>> foremost focus.
>>
>>No one is claiming that they are, however, for many in here, it is
>>their first and foremost focus.
>
>
> Glad I have more of a life than that.
> My gun is important too, but I just can't plan my life or my votes
> around it exclusively.
You are missing the point. Many in here take the government's approach to
private ownership of firearms as how they will govern in other areas. As
shown to you before, the gun politics are a good indicator of an
administration in microcosm. By watching gun politics you see whether
the president and congress feel that most of the time the people can
govern themselves and need just some government involvement or do the
president and congress feel that you are just serfs and the government
must be the nanny and provider.
pyotr filipivich
<ompo...@gmail.com> wrote on Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:33:37 -0600 in
talk.politics.guns :
>In article <Xns9B4F74AE6...@216.196.97.131>,
> "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> kuikahi <datal...@gmail.com> wrote in news:c84a6eca-7ede-49e6-88fe-
>> 1edfe7...@o4g2000pra.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > On Nov 5, 10:19 am, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
>> >> President-elect Obama. Inauguration is 20 January 2009.
>> >>
>> >> Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and bury it in the
>> >> backyard...
>> >>
>> >> After that Obama has already promised to spend as much money on a
>> >> "security" Gestapo as we currently spend on the military. Fighting
>> >> "gun crime" and "taking guns off the street" will give them all
>> >> something to do.
>> >
>> > Fuck you...you lost..deal with it.
>> > You can suck Bush's cock when he leaves office
>> >
>>
>> Why are you guys so interested in what happens to other fella's cocks?
>
>'cause theirs is missing.
That explains it. They don't have one to keep their brains in,
and it got lost.