Fort Hood Suspect May Have Suffered From 'Compassion Fatigue,' Experts (SISSY LIBERALS) Say
Leroy N. Soetoro
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572625,00.html
Health experts say they are hardly astonished that the suspect in the
worst mass murder ever at a U.S. military base is an Army psychiatrist �
the very person who is supposed to be helping soldiers deal with the
traumatic stress of war.
Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, suspected of gunning down 13 and wounding 30 at
the Fort Hood Army Post in Texas, treated soldiers at the Darnall Army
Medical Center there after being transferred in July from the Walter
Reed Army Medical Center, where he had worked for six years.
Dr. Robin Kerner, an attending psychologist who specializes in disaster
anxiety at St. Luke�s-Roosevelt Hospital in New York City, said it�s not
uncommon for individuals who work with traumatized patients to suffer
the effects of "compassion fatigue."
"This guy was counseling people coming back from war and there is
something called secondary traumatization, where the therapist gets
traumatized from hearing all the terrible things that have happened to
the people they counsel," Kerner told FoxNews.com.
The problem, she said, is that when this happens, many mental health
professionals do not properly take care of themselves.
"There are a lot of things professionals who are working with trauma
patients need to do in terms of self-care so as not to get traumatized
themselves," she said. "Oftentimes, workers are so focused on helping
others that they neglect to take care of themselves. The bottom line �
we don�t take our own advice."
WARNING SIGNS
Hasan raised many red flags in the days and weeks before the shooting
that indicated he was beginning to unravel, said Dr. Keith Ablow, a
psychiatrist and Fox News contributor.
"I�m sure as the investigation proceeds that what will emerge is a
portrait of someone showing multiple signs of growing psychological
problems and was using a variety of techniques to deal with them, some
of which may have backfired," Ablow said. "This is why obtaining any
information on prescriptions he may have prescribed himself is
important."
"Many times," he said, those prescriptions "can have the opposite effect
on individuals and even trigger feelings of violence."
Ablow said some of Hasan�s red flags included the extent to which he
expressed his desperation not to be deployed overseas; his feelings
about his military career and how it conflicted with his Muslim
religion; and his actions in the days leading up to the massacre, which
included giving away his possessions and giving out copies of the Koran
to neighbors.
"The fact that he had been giving away his possessions is something
psychiatrists are always attuned to, because it does make you
legitimately wonder whether this is someone who sees their existence
coming to an end," he said.
Hasan had also turned against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, his
cousin told Fox News. The 39-year-old wanted to be released from the
military, and he had even hired a military lawyer to assist his efforts,
Nader Hasan said.
A 2008 report by the American Psychiatric Association found that the
wars in Iraq have caused heightened stress, depression and sleeplessness
among military personnel and their families.
As a result, Kerner said, mental health professionals are seeing
extremely high levels of post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and
substance abuse among soldiers who return to the U.S. � a level that may
have affected Hasan.
"I don�t think we understand as professionals and as a society the toll
that listening to traumatic stories takes on the listener," Ablow said.
Retired Col. Terry Lee, who worked with Hasan at Fort Hood, said he
frequently made "outlandish" comments.
"He said maybe Muslims should stand up and fight against the aggressor,"
Lee told Fox News. "At first we thought he meant help the armed forces,
but apparently that wasn't the case. Other times he would make comments
we shouldn't be in the war in the first place."
Lee said Hasan was a loner who kept to himself and didn�t socialize a
lot with officers off duty or on duty.
"Again, we don�t know why he turned," Kerner said. "But if we�re going
with the theory that he was suffering from secondary traumatization �
what happens is that he might not have even been aware of the trauma he
was suffering from."
Kerner said what often happens is that we ourselves don�t realize that
we are impacted by our trauma work, but people around us start noticing
behavior changes such as anger, isolation and disconnection.
"In a lot of these cases, rather than respecting someone�s boundaries,
it�s more important to try to get this person to think in a way that�s
more rational and to get them help right away," Ablow said.
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Jim Alder
news:Xns9CBB7C684...@202.177.16.121:
> Now the liberal bullshit "make an excuse for the poor Muzzie" starts.
Not everywhere:
www.gazette.com/articles/fort-65907-hood-shooter.html
FORT HOOD, Texas � Soldiers who witnessed the shooting rampage at Fort Hood
that left 13 people dead reported that the gunman shouted �Allahu Akbar!�
before opening fire, the base commander said Friday.
Lt. Gen. Robert Cone said officials had not yet confirmed that the suspected
shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, made the comment, which is Arabic for �God is
great!� before the rampage Thursday, which left 30 people wounded, including
the gunman.
An imam from a mosque Hasan regularly attended said Hasan, a lifelong Muslim,
was a committed soldier, gave no sign of extremist beliefs and regularly wore
his uniform at prayers.
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So, how's that whole "hopey - changey"
thing working out for you so far?
anon
> Now the liberal bullshit "make an excuse for the poor Muzzie" starts.
>
> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572625,00.html
>
> Health experts say they are hardly astonished that the suspect in the
> the very person who is supposed to be helping soldiers deal with the
> traumatic stress of war.
>
> Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, suspected of gunning down 13 and wounding 30 at
> the Fort Hood Army Post in Texas, treated soldiers at the Darnall Army
> Medical Center there after being transferred in July from the Walter
> Reed Army Medical Center, where he had worked for six years.
>
> Dr. Robin Kerner, an attending psychologist who specializes in disaster
> uncommon for individuals who work with traumatized patients to suffer
> the effects of "compassion fatigue."
>
> "This guy was counseling people coming back from war and there is
> something called secondary traumatization, where the therapist gets
> traumatized from hearing all the terrible things that have happened to
> the people they counsel," Kerner told FoxNews.com.
>
> The problem, she said, is that when this happens, many mental health
> professionals do not properly take care of themselves.
>
> "There are a lot of things professionals who are working with trauma
> patients need to do in terms of self-care so as not to get traumatized
> themselves," she said. "Oftentimes, workers are so focused on helping
> we don�t take our own advice."
> WARNING SIGNS
>
> Hasan raised many red flags in the days and weeks before the shooting
> that indicated he was beginning to unravel, said Dr. Keith Ablow, a
> psychiatrist and Fox News contributor.
>
> portrait of someone showing multiple signs of growing psychological
> problems and was using a variety of techniques to deal with them, some
> of which may have backfired," Ablow said. "This is why obtaining any
> information on prescriptions he may have prescribed himself is
> important."
>
> "Many times," he said, those prescriptions "can have the opposite effect
> on individuals and even trigger feelings of violence."
>
> expressed his desperation not to be deployed overseas; his feelings
> about his military career and how it conflicted with his Muslim
> religion; and his actions in the days leading up to the massacre, which
> included giving away his possessions and giving out copies of the Koran
> to neighbors.
>
> "The fact that he had been giving away his possessions is something
> psychiatrists are always attuned to, because it does make you
> legitimately wonder whether this is someone who sees their existence
> coming to an end," he said.
>
> Hasan had also turned against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, his
> cousin told Fox News. The 39-year-old wanted to be released from the
> military, and he had even hired a military lawyer to assist his efforts,
> Nader Hasan said.
>
> A 2008 report by the American Psychiatric Association found that the
> wars in Iraq have caused heightened stress, depression and sleeplessness
> among military personnel and their families.
>
> As a result, Kerner said, mental health professionals are seeing
> extremely high levels of post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and
> have affected Hasan.
>
> "I don�t think we understand as professionals and as a society the toll
> that listening to traumatic stories takes on the listener," Ablow said.
>
> Retired Col. Terry Lee, who worked with Hasan at Fort Hood, said he
> frequently made "outlandish" comments.
>
> "He said maybe Muslims should stand up and fight against the aggressor,"
> Lee told Fox News. "At first we thought he meant help the armed forces,
> but apparently that wasn't the case. Other times he would make comments
> we shouldn't be in the war in the first place."
>
> lot with officers off duty or on duty.
>
> with the theory that he was suffering from secondary traumatization �
> what happens is that he might not have even been aware of the trauma he
> was suffering from."
>
> we are impacted by our trauma work, but people around us start noticing
> behavior changes such as anger, isolation and disconnection.
>
> it�s more important to try to get this person to think in a way that�s
> more rational and to get them help right away," Ablow said.
>
>
>
murderer. His kind should be wiped out to the last man, woman and child.
Demon Buddha
> Health experts...
Jesus, what a raft of bullshit.
Didn't want to be deployed? Nobody in their right minds wants to go to
war, but when you're ordered, you have no choice. That is what you
signed up for.
I cannot believe they are spinning even this. What an atrocity and an
affront to those who were killed and maimed by that asshole.
ne...@millions.com
wrote:
Hey! Dr. Hasan was over-run with compassion and decided enough was
enough. He look in the latest edition of the psychiatric manual and
"Eureks! I ve the way . . .."
DCI
Studious Rex
wrote:
> Now the liberal bullshit "make an excuse for the poor Muzzie" starts.
>
> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572625,00.html
He was just another radical right wing muslim who lost his mind.
You right wingers and your love for shooting sprees. Pathetic.
bobinNY
"Demon Buddha" <Nob...@no.where> wrote in message
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I predicted yesterday, Osama is going to go with some theory such is this,
Its not islams fault, these people are great. praise allah. - Osama -
buildin a betta AmeiKa
Dan Forth
"Mitchell Holman" <noe...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Studious Rex <caseyte...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:bd1b0313-0b58-453b-
> 9f46-ab1...@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
> what's the difference?
Aside from trivial philosophical differences, they both seem to prefer
killing worthless liberals as a first choice.
Like that's a bad thing.
r wiley
"Mitchell Holman" <noe...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Xns9CBD50C201D75...@216.196.97.130...
> "r wiley" <raw...@southslope.net> wrote in news:hd5m7c$ac8$1
> @news.netins.net:
>
>>>
>>
>> You have it exactly backwards. Gun prohibitionists love
>> shooting sprees. Look around the group. All of the people
>> screaming mass murder are gun prohibitionists.
>
Remember, in the 1994 massacre in Rwanda, over 800,000
people were killed in about 100 days, primarily with machetes,
clubs, axes, hammers etc. Has anyone ever killed so many in
so short a tme with guns?
>
> A candidate for the stupidest thing ever
> posted on Usenet. Ever.
>
Take a look around the group. A mass murder using guns gives
all the gun prohibitionisrs an excuse to demand more infringements
on the right of the people to keep and bear arms.
No question, gun prohibitionists absolutely cream their jeans over
a mass murder if guns are involved.
rw
Mitchell Holman
>
> "Mitchell Holman" <noe...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns9CBD50C201D75...@216.196.97.130...
>> "r wiley" <raw...@southslope.net> wrote in news:hd5m7c$ac8$1
>> @news.netins.net:
>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> You have it exactly backwards. Gun prohibitionists love
>>> shooting sprees. Look around the group. All of the people
>>> screaming mass murder are gun prohibitionists.
>>
>
> Remember, in the 1994 massacre in Rwanda, over 800,000
> people were killed in about 100 days, primarily with machetes,
> clubs, axes, hammers etc. Has anyone ever killed so many in
> so short a tme with guns?
>
I know you think that proves something, but trust me - it doesn't.
>>
>> A candidate for the stupidest thing ever
>> posted on Usenet. Ever.
>>
>
> Take a look around the group. A mass murder using guns gives
> all the gun prohibitionisrs an excuse to demand more infringements
> on the right of the people to keep and bear arms.
>
What "infringements" are those?
> No question, gun prohibitionists absolutely cream their jeans over
> a mass murder if guns are involved.
Repeating such a stupid claim doesn't make it true.
Need a coward, hire a liberal
ab1817...@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
We certainly know he wouldn't be a liberal fag who fears his own
shadow.
You have to admire a man who is willing to kill for his
principles.
Nicholas
right troll.
let's give out merit badges to all the killers on Death Row.
Man, you're as fucked up as Guntard. Are you sure you're not related?
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r wiley
"Mitchell Holman" <noe...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Xns9CBDB46A33CEE...@216.196.97.130...
No question, gun prohibitionists absolutely cream their jeans over
a mass murder if guns are involved.
rw
Duke
> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:46:09 -0600, Nicholas
>
>
>
> <Lawrence_Glick...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:07:42 +0100, "Need a coward, hire a liberal"
> > <fa...@check.org> wrote:
>
> >>In article <bd1b0313-0b58-453b-9f46-
> >><caseyterry5...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Nov 6, 3:13 pm, "Leroy N. Soetoro" <leroysoet...@usurper.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Now the liberal bullshit "make an excuse for the poor Muzzie"
> >>> > starts.
>
> >>> >http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572625,00.html
>
> >>> He was just another radical right wing muslim who lost his mind.
>
> >>> You right wingers and your love for shooting sprees. Pathetic.
>
> >>We certainly know he wouldn't be a liberal fag who fears his own shadow.
>
> >>You have to admire a man who is willing to kill for his principles.
>
> > right troll.
> > let's give out merit badges to all the killers on Death Row.
>
> > Man, you're as fucked up as Guntard. Are you sure you're not related?
>
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It's a dizum remailer, it could be anybody. Not necessarily the same
poster.
Demon Buddha
> No question, gun prohibitionists absolutely cream their jeans over
> a mass murder if guns are involved.
I would tend to agree with this. They seem to revel in the horror and
take strong heart in the belief that the event bolsters their position.
It is a profound sickness.
Lookout
Bill Gamelson
"Lookout" <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>No question, gun prohibitionists absolutely cream their jeans over
>>a mass murder if guns are involved.
>>
>>rw
>
> That's a lie
Maybe someday you'll graduate to debating using more than a single sentence
in a response. Like maybe a link or a cite or a quote? Are thse too big of
words for you?
Curly Surmudgeon
True but there is a similarity of style and each and every one on the
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Lookout
Nothing more needs to be said when someone posts such an obvious lie.
The OP should have included a cite or quote but we both know what he
said is can't be proven because it is such an obvious lie.
RD (The Sandman)
They are awfully quiet on this one since their usual chant is that only
the police and military should have them.
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Sleep well tonight,
RD (The Sandman)
Let's see if I have this healthcare thingy right. Congress is to pass
a plan written by a committee whose head has said he doesn't understand
it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who
hasn't read it, with funding administered by a Treasury chief who didn't
pay his taxes because he didn't understand TurboTax, overseen by an obese
Surgeon General and financed by a country that's nearly broke.
What could possibly go wrong?
Leroy N. Soetoro
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> libera...@anywhere.net (ObamaNation is an Abomination) wrote in
> news:4af63acb...@news.datemas.de:
>
>> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:25:13 -0600, Mitchell Holman
>> <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Studious Rex <caseyte...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>news:bd1b0313-0b58-453b-
>>>9f46-ab1...@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>> Muslim fantical killers, Christian fanatical killers,
>>>what's the difference?
>>
>> The number.
>>
>
>
> Killing because your God expects you to.
>
> Sheesh............
Pissing your pants in fear, because Obama tells you too.
Typical liberal.