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JillJoe

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May 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/31/98
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Guns promote the kill crazy attitude of those who promote them. It's
just a fact, and you can't prove otherwize, and you know it. It's
time that civilization take the next step and deprick the evil
elements of society.


User953439

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>
>Guns promote the kill crazy attitude of those who promote them. It's
>just a fact, and you can't prove otherwize, and you know it.
>
>
It's not the fact, it's sick liberal opinion.



>
>

Steve Fischer

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In article <3571e61...@news.newsguy.com> Jil...@arbiter.net writes:
>
>Guns promote the kill crazy attitude of those who promote them. It's
>just a fact, and you can't prove otherwize, and you know it. It's
>time that civilization take the next step and deprick the evil
>elements of society.
>

Well, now we're heard from a representative of the criminal
element. How about something from the law abiding side?

--

/Steve D. Fischer/Atlanta, Georgia/str...@netcom.com/


Steve Fischer

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In article <199805312251...@ladder03.news.aol.com> user9...@aol.com (User953439) writes:
>>
>>Guns promote the kill crazy attitude of those who promote them. It's
>>just a fact, and you can't prove otherwize, and you know it.
>>
>>
>It's not the fact, it's sick liberal opinion.
>

Unfortunately, even "well" liberals have this stupid opinion.

James F. Mayer

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In <3571e61...@news.newsguy.com> Jil...@arbiter.net (JillJoe)

writes:
>
>
>Guns promote the kill crazy attitude of those who promote them.

No, it makes the gun control advocates crazy that someone can
actually defend themselves from criminals.


It's
>just a fact, and you can't prove otherwize, and you know it.

Then why do police carry them?

It's
>time that civilization take the next step and deprick the evil
>elements of society.
>

How many of the estimated eighty thousand to 2.5 million persons
that have used a gun per year in defense of themselves as reported by
the NCVS and others are you willing to sacrifice to those that would
have done them grievous bodily harm? Would you tolerate the increase
in violent crimes and deaths as long as the potential victim couldn't
defend themselves with a gun? How many elderly and weak are you
willing to sacrifice to the strong and young? Would you be satisfied
that the increase in deaths caused by violent criminals will justify
making guns illegal?

Steve Hix

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In article <3571e61...@news.newsguy.com>, Jil...@arbiter.net wrote:

> Guns promote the kill crazy attitude of those who promote them. It's


> just a fact, and you can't prove otherwize, and you know it.

That must explain why relaxing concealed carry laws correlates
so strongly with reductions in violent crimes of all types (Lott
and Mustard).

It so clearly explains why Floridians who obtain concealed
carry permits are far less likely than their *law abiding*
neighbors to do *anything* that would bring them to the
attention of law enforcement (ref. Florida Dept. of State).

There's a lot more, but an animist like JillJoe wouldn't be
able to understand.

Pity.

J.A.J.

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says...

>
> Guns promote the kill crazy attitude of those who promote them. It's
> just a fact, and you can't prove otherwize, and you know it. It's

> time that civilization take the next step and deprick the evil
> elements of society.

Wonderful. What is your native language? Your grasp of American
English is commendable. However, if we knew your native language, we
could make some necessary assumptions about your post in order to
understand it.
Can you prove your assertion about, "kill crazy attitude of
those who promote them?" If not, upon what are you basing your
assertion?
Are you actually advocating the removal of the penis of, "evil",
elements of society? What about females who fall into this category?

--
J.A. James
Fianna Consultation

DarkCopter

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Jun 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/1/98
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On Sun, 31 May 1998 23:24:41 GMT, Jil...@arbiter.net (JillJoe) wrote:

>Guns promote the kill crazy attitude of those who promote them. It's
>just a fact, and you can't prove otherwize, and you know it. It's
>time that civilization take the next step and deprick the evil
>elements of society.

Now I know the secret to trolling in here. Simply come as a know
nothing, innocent little girl with the name JillJoe and say something
stupid. Look at all you idiots who ignore all the irrefutable
arguments that none can refute when I place them before you, and then
try to correct a simple imaginary "female" character that I just made
up. I bet you all sent her e-male also! Only to find it was a false
address. Looks like you won't be getting your hoped cybersex!
Hahaha!

MrTurnipHead
master gardener
and master of disguise


DarkCopter

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On Mon, 01 Jun 1998 02:04:52 GMT, DarkC...@area51.net (DarkCopter)
wrote:

You, sir, are a troll!

Robert Frenchu

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Around Sun, 31 May 1998 23:24:41 GMT, the one and only
Jil...@arbiter.net (JillJoe) wrote:

>
>Guns promote the kill crazy attitude of those who promote them. It's
>just a fact, and you can't prove otherwize, and you know it. It's
>time that civilization take the next step and deprick the evil
>elements of society.

We are sooooooooooooooooo interested in your opinion! Tell us more!


____________________________________________________

If my "assault rifle" makes me a criminal
And my encryption program makes me a terrorist
Does Diane Feinstein's vagina make her a prostitute?


Steve Fischer

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Jun 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/1/98
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In article <35720ac2...@news.newsguy.com> DarkC...@area51.net writes:

>On Sun, 31 May 1998 23:24:41 GMT, Jil...@arbiter.net (JillJoe) wrote:
>
>>Guns promote the kill crazy attitude of those who promote them. It's
>>just a fact, and you can't prove otherwize, and you know it. It's
>>time that civilization take the next step and deprick the evil
>>elements of society.
>
>Now I know the secret to trolling in here. Simply come as a know
>nothing, innocent little girl with the name JillJoe and say something
>stupid. Look at all you idiots who ignore all the irrefutable
>arguments that none can refute when I place them before you, and then
>try to correct a simple imaginary "female" character that I just made
>up. I bet you all sent her e-male also! Only to find it was a false
>address. Looks like you won't be getting your hoped cybersex!
>Hahaha!
>
>MrTurnipHead
>master gardener
>and master of disguise
>

Stick to playing in the dirt. It's probably more productive.

Ronald Shin

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JillJoe wrote:
>
> Guns promote the kill crazy attitude of those who promote them. It's
> just a fact, and you can't prove otherwize, and you know it. It's
> time that civilization take the next step and deprick the evil
> elements of society.

Get it across your head, please. Criminals will commit crimes,
regardless of tools available, and regardless of what's available for
the lawful citizen.

The best way to deprick the evil elements of society are to
imprison/execute them. Why spend valuable taxpayers' dollars to keep
them alive?

--
"The First Amendment is crucial. Of course it is. So are all
the others. And the Second Amendment is the one that guarantees
that people can bear arms to protect themselves."

Charlton Heston, VP of the NRA

Nestor Rivera

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JillJoe wrote:

> Guns promote the kill crazy attitude of those who promote them. It's
> just a fact, and you can't prove otherwize, and you know it. It's
> time that civilization take the next step and deprick the evil
> elements of society.

Yes with good gun control the West End Killings (c.f. JACK) could not
have happened, nor could John Gassy or Jeff Daummer have killed all those
people. Not to mention the Bordens would have been a nice happy family.

Sarcastically Yours:Nestor Rivera

JD BLACKWELL

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>Around Sun, 31 May 1998 23:24:41 GMT, the one and only

>Jil...@arbiter.net (JillJoe) wrote:
>
>>
>>Guns promote the kill crazy attitude of those who promote them. It's
>>just a fact, and you can't prove otherwize, and you know it. It's
>>time that civilization take the next step and deprick the evil
>>elements of society.
>

No, its not a fact and I CAN prove otherwise. The evil in society comes from
irrational chicken littles such as yourself who have no grasp of truth.
"Deprick?" The minions of armed women I know would like to see you try.

bob

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Jun 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/1/98
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JillJoe wrote:
>
> Guns promote the kill crazy attitude of those who promote them. It's
> just a fact, and you can't prove otherwize, and you know it. It's
> time that civilization take the next step and deprick the evil
> elements of society.

And deviant art promotes drug use, prostitution, child molestation, and
the common cold. It's just a fact, and you can't prove otherwise, and
you know it. It's time that civilization take the next step and peprick


the evil elements of society.

Only the classics should be studied and displayed. All deviant art, and
the artists creating it, must be destroyed. Stalin and Hitler were
right to control art in the same manner they controlled firearms.

Curtis M LaFon

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Nestor Rivera wrote:

JillJoe wrote:

> Guns promote the kill crazy attitude of those who promote them.  It's
> just a fact, and you can't prove otherwize, and you know it.  It's
> time that civilization take the next step and deprick the evil
> elements of society.
 

Curtis adds:

Yes, your right. Guns in the hands of some does seem to promote
the kill crazy attitude of some, ie .. Fed agents at Ruby Ridge and
Waco.

So how do you propose we go about depicking them, as you say ..??

Support HR 2721

  Yes with good gun control the West End Killings (c.f. JACK) could not
have happened, nor could John Gassy or Jeff Daummer have killed all those
people. Not to mention the Bordens would have been a nice happy family.

Sarcastically Yours:Nestor Rivera

 

--

-------------------------------------------
Curtis .. N5HDQ .. http://wf.quik.com/n5hdq
I can't think of anything witty to say here.
Oh well, no one is perfect.
 

Push hr2721.txt

Gruhn

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>> Guns promote the kill crazy attitude of those who promote them. It's
>> just a fact, and you can't prove otherwize, and you know it

> Can you prove your assertion about, "kill crazy attitude of


>those who promote them?" If not, upon what are you basing your
>assertion?

It would appear just be a plainly evident fact.

> Are you actually advocating the removal of the penis of, "evil",
>elements of society? What about females who fall into this category?

Penis envy. If a guy with a small penis buys a gun in order to have a large
penis (the only reason to buy a gun and in perfect correlation with the kill
crazy attitude (penis = sex = AIDS, after all, doncha know)) then it is only
reasonable to presume that a woman would buy a gun to have a penis at all.

JD BLACKWELL

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Gruhn wrote in message <6kvrem$a3u$1...@news.goodnet.com>...


>>> Guns promote the kill crazy attitude of those who promote them. It's
>>> just a fact, and you can't prove otherwize, and you know it
>
>> Can you prove your assertion about, "kill crazy attitude of
>>those who promote them?" If not, upon what are you basing your
>>assertion?
>
>It would appear just be a plainly evident fact.

There is nothing plain nor evident nor factual about your assertion


>
>> Are you actually advocating the removal of the penis of, "evil",
>>elements of society? What about females who fall into this category?
>
>Penis envy. If a guy with a small penis buys a gun in order to have a large
>penis (the only reason to buy a gun and in perfect correlation with the
kill
>crazy attitude (penis = sex = AIDS, after all, doncha know)) then it is
only
>reasonable to presume that a woman would buy a gun to have a penis at all.

I have trained many survivors of rape and domestic abuse in firearms use. I
would love to see you stand in front of that crowd, look them in the eye and
repeat that statement.
>
>

gle...@ctaz.com

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Jun 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/2/98
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In article <3571e61...@news.newsguy.com>,

Jil...@arbiter.net wrote:
>
>
> Guns promote the kill crazy attitude of those who promote them. It's
> just a fact, and you can't prove otherwize, and you know it. It's
> time that civilization take the next step and deprick the evil
> elements of society.

It's time that civilization attempts to enlighten
the clueless elements of society.

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Dave Jungemann

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Gruhn wrote:
>
> >> Guns promote the kill crazy attitude of those who promote them. It's
> >> just a fact, and you can't prove otherwize, and you know it
>
> > Can you prove your assertion about, "kill crazy attitude of
> >those who promote them?" If not, upon what are you basing your
> >assertion?
>
> It would appear just be a plainly evident fact.
>
Translation: "No, I can't provide any kind of proof because my butt is
doing the talking here."


> > Are you actually advocating the removal of the penis of, "evil",
> >elements of society? What about females who fall into this category?
>
> Penis envy. If a guy with a small penis buys a gun in order to have a large
> penis (the only reason to buy a gun and in perfect correlation with the kill
> crazy attitude (penis = sex = AIDS, after all, doncha know)) then it is only
> reasonable to presume that a woman would buy a gun to have a penis at all.

Ah. Sweet reason.
It's certainly interesting when the gun grabbers dust off the old
"penis=weapon"
nonsense. It reveals something about how they think. Or if they think.

Tell me, Wanker Boy: if guns are penises, who is sicker? The guy who
thinks
his gun is a penis or the guy who wants to take it away from him? And
what
do you intend to do with it once you have it away from him? Do you
actually
need to *take* his penis to get the use of it for a while? Is that what
you
have in mind with all this "penis=weapon" talk?

If penis=weapon, please remember that we have them and you don't. Even
the
women in this group usually have several. And they share them with
their loved ones.

Let that percolate in your little gun-grabbing grey matter, bub.

-- Jungemann
Armed. Average-sized guns. Draw your own conclusions about penis size,
if you like.
===========================================================
Opinions expressed by Dave Jungemann are valid only within
the confines of the US and are not meant to be construed as
applying to any other country. Thank you. You're welcome.

rpa...@sph.emory.edu

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Jun 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/3/98
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On Sun, 31 May 1998 23:24:41 GMT, Jil...@arbiter.net (JillJoe) wrote:

>
>Guns promote the kill crazy attitude of those who promote them. It's

Gruhn

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>Tell me, Wanker Boy: if guns are penises, who is sicker?

For somebody who generally agrees with the views I presented, you are being
an asshole.

>Let that percolate in your little gun-grabbing grey matter, bub.

Oh, I get it. You don't understand me. You are so fucking clueless.

Gruhn

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Jun 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/4/98
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>Let that percolate in your little gun-grabbing grey matter, bub.

I was wondering just the other day which fool it was that called me a
gun-grabber recently. Now I know. I am not surprised.

julia.c...@iint.com

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Jun 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/5/98
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In article <3574c82e...@news.service.emory.edu>,
I notice you're from Emory, home of Dr. Arthur Kellerman and others
in the field of "Public Health" that is fast getting as stellar
a reputation for scientific rigor as, say, parapsychology or
Lamarckian theories of heritability.

Some of the other parts of Emory are world-class, though, so I
hesitate to presume you're from "Public Health," or are one of
their advocates.

Did you have something to say?

Julie

Dave Jungemann

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Gruhn wrote:
>
> >Tell me, Wanker Boy: if guns are penises, who is sicker?
>
> For somebody who generally agrees with the views I presented, you are being
> an asshole.
>
> >Let that percolate in your little gun-grabbing grey matter, bub.
>
> Oh, I get it. You don't understand me. You are so fucking clueless.

Well, somebody's clueless. Hard to tell who, since, as usual, you're
not saying who you're quoting.

See at the top? Where it says "Gruhn wrote:"? That's called an
"attribution".

-- Jungemann.

Think about Freedom

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Jun 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/8/98
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On Mon, 01 Jun 1998 15:28:32 -0500, Nestor Rivera
<nari...@accdvm.accd.edu> wrote:

>
>
>JillJoe wrote:
>
>> Guns promote the kill crazy attitude of those who promote them. It's
>> just a fact, and you can't prove otherwize, and you know it. It's
>> time that civilization take the next step and deprick the evil
>> elements of society.
>

> Yes with good gun control the West End Killings (c.f. JACK) could not
>have happened, nor could John Gassy or Jeff Daummer have killed all those
>people. Not to mention the Bordens would have been a nice happy family.
>
>Sarcastically Yours:Nestor Rivera
>

You might want to at least note to the less educated that none of
those killings were done with firearms.

Sarcasm noted

Consider Freedom; it is intimately tied to responsibility

Dean, Greg

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Jun 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/8/98
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Then you are saying that those of us who are law enforcement
or military are crazied killers? Just because the gun is carried
on our side?

You are what cops call an asshole. You talk back. Look, what
sets most cops and soldiers (and Marines) apart from civilian
(liberal) assholes like yourself is that we are disciplined.

Come join the force. At least join the Marines. You need to
grow up.

JillJoe wrote in message <3571e61...@news.newsguy.com>...

bob

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Jun 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/9/98
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Dean, Greg wrote:
>
> Then you are saying that those of us who are law enforcement
> or military are crazied killers? Just because the gun is carried
> on our side?
>
> You are what cops call an asshole. You talk back. Look, what
> sets most cops and soldiers (and Marines) apart from civilian
> (liberal) assholes like yourself is that we are disciplined.
>
> Come join the force. At least join the Marines. You need to
> grow up.
>
Uh, I think you better check your American history before you start
saying everyone in the military/police is better than everyone who isn't
(civilians).

In fact, just watch one scene in the movie "Full Metal Jacket" for a
condensed history of the marksmanship skills of Marines played out on
civilian targets in America. Wasn't Oswald a Marine? Wasn't McVeigh in
the Army? How many cops have been sent to jail? Don't cops have the
highest rate of domestic problems and suicide?

People are people; a uniform doesn't make you a better person.

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