Liu Xiaobao called for 300 years of Colonial rule by the west
Pax China
online Chinese community exposed the fact that Liu Xiaobo had openly
stated that China need at least 300 years of colonial rule by the West
so that it could reach the level of Hong Kong.
Many Chinese viewed the award of the Nobel Prize another evil western
plot against China. Some Chinese viewed Liu as a Hanjian (traitor of
the Han Nation) and considered his sentence too lenient , a few
extreme nationalists even called for Liu's execution.
Pax China
On 7 October 2010, Norwegian TV networks reported that Liu Xiaobo was
a candidate for the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize.[45] On 8 October 2010 the
Nobel Committee awarded him the Prize "for his long and non-violent
struggle for fundamental human rights in China".[46] The Norwegian
Nobel Committee president Thorbjørn Jagland said the choice of Liu as
the recipient of the prize had become clear early on in the process.
[47] The Chinese foreign ministry had previously warned the Nobel
committee not to give Liu the prize, as they said that it would be
against Nobel principles.[47]
All news about the announcement of the award was immediately censored
in China. Foreign news broadcasters including CNN and the BBC were
immediately blacked out after mentioning the award in China.[48] Web
searches for Liu Xiabo were immediately deleted and no information can
be searched about him in China. The Chinese Foreign Ministry issued a
statement that said, "The Nobel Peace Prize is meant to award
individuals who promote international harmony and friendship, peace
and disarmament. Liu Xiaobo is a criminal who has been sentenced by
Chinese judicial departments for violating Chinese law. Awarding the
peace to Liu runs completely counter to the principle of the award and
is also a desecration of the Peace Prize."[49] The state-run Xinhua
News Agency later carried a report saying that awarding Liu Xiaobo the
prize “defiles” (褻瀆) Alfred Nobel's purpose of creating this prize and
"may harm China-Norway relations". The spokeperson added that Liu had
broken Chinese law and his "actions run contrary to the purpose of the
Nobel Peace Prize."[50][51][52]
In response to the award announcement, there were messages of
congratulations from the world’s leaders. Jose Manuel Barroso,
President of the European Commission, stated that, "The decision of
the Nobel Peace Prize Committee is a strong message of support to all
those around the world who, sometimes with great personal sacrifice,
are struggling for freedom and human rights."[53] The British Foreign
and Commonwealth Office said the award “shines a spotlight on the
situation of human rights defenders worldwide,” and the Foreign
Secretary William Hague continued asking for Liu’s release from jail.
[53] US President Barack Obama said in a statement, “By granting the
prize to Mr. Liu, the Nobel Committee has chosen someone who has been
an eloquent and courageous spokesman for the advance of universal
values through peaceful and non-violent means, including his support
for democracy, human rights, and the rule of law. But this award
reminds us that political reform has not kept pace, and that the basic
human rights of every man, woman and child must be respected. We call
on the Chinese government to release Mr. Liu as soon as possible.”[54]
The Dalai Lama praised the decision, and called on the Chinese
government to release the jailed Liu and launch political, legal and
constitutional reforms.[55]
[edit]Official Chinese government response
The Norwegian ambassador to the People's Republic of China was
summoned by the Chinese government on 8 October 2010 and was presented
with an official complaint against the granting of the Nobel Peace
Prize to Liu Xiaobo.[56] The Norwegian foreign minister replied by
saying that the Chinese government's hostile remarks are unnecessary,
as the Nobel Prize nomination committee is independent from the
Norwegian government.[57]
[edit]Responses from the World Wide Web
On 8/10/2010, the words Liu Xiaobo and Nobel Peace Prize had became
the top key words in both Google search and Twitter.[58]
[edit]Response from online Chinese community
After the announcement of the Nobel Prize award, the online Chinese
community exposed the fact that Liu Xiaobo had openly stated that
China need at least 300 years of colonial rule by the West and should
abandon Chinese Culture so that it could reach the level of Hong Kong.
[59] Many Chinese viewed the award of the Nobel Prize another western
plot against China. Some Chinese viewed Liu as a Hanjian (traitor of
the Han Nation) and considered his sentence too lenient , a few
extreme nationalists even called for Liu's execution.[60]
[edit]Personal life
He is married to Liu Xia, who lives in the couple's apartment in
Beijing.
[edit]See also
fyf...@gmail.com
This nobel prize winner is a member of the current flower generation.
He might have majored in soft subjects like philosophy but hardly have
had solid basic economics courses.
rst9
He's a shameless western dog. I said it many times, China's worst
enemy is the Chinese people themselves.
bmo...@nyx.net
The Communist Party of China typically demonizes and jails Chinese who
oppose them, rather than have a healthy debate. In some ways.this is
understandable, but in other ways the CPC seems criminal.
Wusong
So, you want the Chinese government to be like the American
government, do you? You want the Chinese government to bow down to the
demands of a dissident, do you? Just like the way the American
government bowed down and followed the demands of activists? How many
Americans were against the invasion of Iraq and the sending of troops
to Afghanistan? I think there were more than just a handful, don't
you?
Each country has its own laws and regulations to safeguard national
security, and no one should interfere with them. The awarding of the
Nobel Prize to Liu Xiaobao was not a mere acknowledgement for his
work, but a symbolic attack on China as a whole. The West can't accept
China to be a growing global power - they want the China to remain a
3rd world nation where men still wear pigtails, carry loads off ships
as collies, and drag rickshaws the way Hollywood has depicted them to
be for nearly half a century.
More cut & paste from the monkey rstOwxyz whose rent money could only feed monkeys
>
> - Show quoted text -
Very well said stinky yellow belly rent boy . People like you who
tried for generation to be white boy ought to fucked by KOMIN.
Yellow belly stinking chink rent boy, no matter how hard you want to
be a white boy, you will always be a stinking yellow belly chink in
US
All you ever wanted in US is mininum wages. Chinkland can never give
that to you in Chinkland. You are low life chinky boy who was jilted
by a Taiwanese boy Abainchen. No white girl wants a low life chinky
boy who only earns mininum wages in US
Pax China
> The Communist Party of China typically demonizes and jails Chinese who
> oppose them, rather than have a healthy debate. In some ways.this is
> understandable, but in other ways the CPC seems criminal.
Well, Liu Xiaobo said those words about he wants 300 years of colonial
rule to Hong Kong reporters. That was published by HK newspaper, and
Liu later defended his words. That's exactly why he got the Nobel
Prize while other "democracy fighters" did not get it. You know, it's
$1.5 million, and quite a bit of money to be just a political-
prostitute like Liu.
Pax China
Well, Liu Xiaobo just made $1.5 million of Nobel Prize.
Pax China
off Wikipedia.
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ltl...@hotmail.com
Good. I was just wondering "why him" besides he was at present
jailed.
He had made that statement 22 years ago. But it had spreaded among
the oversea dissidents (some of them might be Taiwan Independence
supporters who hate their Chineseness yet pretending to be Chinese
dissidents). In this sense, he is an accomplished writer.
While many of those who adovacte colonization as a way to save China
do not seem to know much about democracy, they did try ot justify
their
view. One of the justification goes like this: Chinese are their
worst
enemy, hence China could not and/or do not deserve to have democracy
and/or economic success unless colonized by the west.
tfkmjk6262
"Pax China" <pax....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:87365778-cdf2-425e...@w15g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
Neo
The acidity of Liu Xiaobo's sarcastic remarks and
burning criticism seem too much for the CCP to bear.
However, in some sense, he might be correct in that
Chinese/Han sensiblities may not be compatiable
with western style of open expression. I just came
back from a local election public debate in the
Washington DC Metro Area -- it was really nasty.
One candidate veered off from the debate topic
to criticism his opponent's personal sexual/marriage
conduct and personal finance. In the west, no topic is
sacred or taboo. Regardless of the type of
society authoritarian, imperialistic, colonial, or
democratic --- social norms and values don't change
very easily. Even if the government makes
reforms, the people don't have the heart for it
then no change will occur.
ltl...@hotmail.com
> On Oct 8, 11:00 pm, Pax China <pax.ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > After the announcement of the Nobel Peace Prize award to Liu Xiaobo,
> > online Chinese community exposed the fact that Liu Xiaobo had openly
> > stated that China need at least 300 years of colonial rule by the West
> > so that it could reach the level of Hong Kong.
>
> > Many Chinese viewed the award of the Nobel Prize another evil western
> > plot against China. Some Chinese viewed Liu as a Hanjian (traitor of
> > the Han Nation) and considered his sentence too lenient , a few
> > extreme nationalists even called for Liu's execution.
>
> >http://news.backchina.com/viewnews-108632-gb2312.html
>
> The acidity of Liu Xiaobo's sarcastic remarks and
> burning criticism seem too much for the CCP to bear.
> However, in some sense, he might be correct in that
> Chinese/Han sensiblities may not be compatiable
> with western style of open expression.
First of all, Liu was not being sarcastic when he said
China needed 300 years of colonial rule by the west. He
meant it.
More important, if Chinese/Han sensibilities is not compatible
with western style of open expression, it only means western
style of open expression is not of universal value.
> I just came
> back from a local election public debate in the
> Washington DC Metro Area -- it was really nasty.
> One candidate veered off from the debate topic
> to criticism his opponent's personal sexual/marriage
> conduct and personal finance. In the west, no topic is
> sacred or taboo. Regardless of the type of
> society authoritarian, imperialistic, colonial, or
> democratic --- social norms and values don't change
> very easily. Even if the government makes
> reforms, the people don't have the heart for it
> then no change will occur.
In what way does such nasty debate benefit the peope?
Does it not divide the people unnecessarily?
ltl...@hotmail.com
Yes. And Liu who evaluate a person by his money must be happy.
"钱是一种自我评价，有了一定数量的钱，你的生命也就随着开放到一定的广度。
(众笑)我太清楚了!有次去北京友谊商店，见到一瓶160元外汇券的酒，当时我站
在那瓶酒前面，感到自己是个弱者，完全被粉碎了!他妈的，你刘晓波出名、演讲，
有什么用，这瓶酒都不能征服它!"
I am not sure "political prostitute" is the right term. Basically, he
does not care
about China or anything Chinese, he spoke to China and to Chinese
auidence
mainly because his English was not good enough. Again, in his own
words,
"我有自身无法摆脱的局限：语言问题。我没法用英语那样好的表达自己的内心世界，
我将来有可能用英语表达的意思，但语言的味道会一点儿也没啦。所以，语言如果可
以过关，中国会和我根本没有关系。我最大的悲哀就是因为语言的局限性，还不得不
为中国说话，我是在与一个非常愚昧、非常庸俗的东西对话，这种对话只会使自己的
水平越来越低。"
rst9
psychotic brainless shameless crazy sleazy slimy filthy evil ugly
abianchen/report2009/abum_chump slut cunt chattering monkey's
dark brown asshole and her filthy smelly cunt.
rst9
tfkmjk6262
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rst0wxyz
More cut & paste from the monkey rstOwxyz whose rent money could only feed monkeys
> Go suck your dalai and fuck your yak.
tsk tsk dirty cunt sucker, just go and suck your own mother's cunt
rent boy
tfkmjk6262
"rst0wxyz" <rst0...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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rst9
rst9
More cut & paste from the monkey rstOwxyz whose rent money could only feed monkeys
> Go suck your dalai and fuck your yak.
Go and suck your own mother's cunt instead rent boy
rst7
tfkmjk6262
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rst7
You can't communicate if you can't spell.