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  Philosophical musings on all topics.
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  <updated>2008-07-25T09:15:57Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Julian</name>
  <email>julianlz...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-07-25T09:15:57Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/talk.philosophy.misc/browse_thread/thread/7e4b220e966f01ca/cb1b9779d6dd480c?show_docid=cb1b9779d6dd480c</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: If one can&#39;t afford children, one should not have children. (Edited)</title>
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  Thank God the Judeo-Christian heritage is not my heritage. &lt;br&gt; As for spamming websites... I can do that. &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://ptlslzb87.blogspot.com/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <author>
  <name>RFHall</name>
  <email>realis...@seanet.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-07-25T08:50:13Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">If one can&#39;t afford children, one should not have children. (Edited)</title>
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  If one can&#39;t afford children, one should not have children. &lt;br&gt; Thanks to Julian, halfawake, possum, Keynes, Raan, and Evelyn for your &lt;br&gt; responses. &lt;br&gt; The ability to &amp;quot;afford children&amp;quot; can be defined as the ability to &lt;br&gt; shelter, clothe, feed, and educate children. I have chosen to use the &lt;br&gt; pronoun &amp;quot;one&amp;quot; in the predicate because it is a decision that should be
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  <author>
  <name>Julian</name>
  <email>julianlz...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-25T06:25:34Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: If one can&#39;t afford children, one should not have children.</title>
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  RaaN wrote: &lt;br&gt; Have you ever borrowed money, mortgage, credit card... etc, &lt;br&gt; to buy something you couldn&#39;t &amp;quot;afford&amp;quot; at that moment?
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  <author>
  <name>RaaN</name>
  <email>raan2...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-24T20:11:12Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: If one can&#39;t afford children, one should not have children.</title>
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  For my own take on the basic principle that one should not have &lt;br&gt; children one cannot afford there is little question in my mind that &lt;br&gt; children, like all those who cannot fend for themselves, are society&#39;s &lt;br&gt; responsibility, but the principle is a preventive admonishment. &lt;br&gt; Those who are idealistic as well as responsible can see to it they are
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Julian</name>
  <email>julianlz...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-24T11:39:55Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: If one can&#39;t afford children, one should not have children.</title>
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  &amp;quot;The Lotus Sutra speaks of &amp;quot;someone finding a ship in which to cross the &lt;br&gt; water.&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; This &amp;quot;ship&amp;quot; might be described as follows: As a shipbuilder of &lt;br&gt; infinitely profound wisdom, &lt;br&gt; the World-Honored One of Great Enlightenment, the lord of teachings, &lt;br&gt; gathered the lumber &lt;br&gt; of the four flavors and eight teachings, planed it by honestly
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  <email>norbu.tra...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-07-24T10:54:11Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: If one can&#39;t afford children, one should not have children.</title>
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  Your &amp;quot;moral imperative&amp;quot; ignores genetics. &lt;br&gt; If only the &amp;quot;aggressive&amp;quot; in society are allowed to reproduce then &lt;br&gt; we we end up with a genome of that limited type &amp;quot;aggressive&amp;quot; gene - if &lt;br&gt; a virus etc &lt;br&gt; should occur that that genome is susceptible to then all humans get &lt;br&gt; to be extinct. The survival of a species is based on diversity within
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  <author>
  <name>halfawake</name>
  <email>epstein...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-24T04:37:24Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: If one can&#39;t afford children, one should not have children.</title>
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  duh wrote: &lt;br&gt; Roswell is in your mind. So is New Mexico. &lt;br&gt; Robert &lt;br&gt; = = = = = = = = = =
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  <author>
  <name>Julian</name>
  <email>julianlz...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-24T03:59:00Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: If one can&#39;t afford children, one should not have children.</title>
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  duh wrote: &lt;br&gt; Compared to what?
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  <author>
  <name>RaaN</name>
  <email>raan2...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-23T22:32:23Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Intertroll Was: If one can&#39;t afford children, one should not have children.</title>
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  What does it matter? &lt;br&gt; Mind is only made up.
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  <author>
  <name>duh</name>
  <email>d...@huh.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-23T23:28:37Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/talk.philosophy.misc/browse_thread/thread/7a31beaf19a48816/b89539bf4ed79a6f?show_docid=b89539bf4ed79a6f"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Intertroll Was: If one can&#39;t afford children, one should not have children.</title>
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  RaaN...are You Saying...in an Abstract Way...that You can&#39;t Make up Your &lt;br&gt; Mind...?
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  <author>
  <name>duh</name>
  <email>d...@huh.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-23T23:18:28Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: If one can&#39;t afford children, one should not have children.</title>
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  halfbaked...You ever Heard of...Roswell...?
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  <author>
  <name>duh</name>
  <email>d...@huh.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-23T23:16:12Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/talk.philosophy.misc/browse_thread/thread/7a31beaf19a48816/578567fac8d298b9?show_docid=578567fac8d298b9</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/talk.philosophy.misc/browse_thread/thread/7a31beaf19a48816/578567fac8d298b9?show_docid=578567fac8d298b9"/>
  <title type="text">Re: If one can&#39;t afford children, one should not have children.</title>
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  Julian...Are You a...Simpsons Fan...?
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  <author>
  <name>halfawake</name>
  <email>epstein...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-23T21:59:07Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/talk.philosophy.misc/browse_thread/thread/7a31beaf19a48816/9b78c289a14b43fc?show_docid=9b78c289a14b43fc"/>
  <title type="text">Re: If one can&#39;t afford children, one should not have children.</title>
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  RaaN wrote: &lt;br&gt; who knows, you might have won the lottery. timing is everything. I for &lt;br&gt; one would not want you to be &amp;quot;trimmed.&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; Robert &lt;br&gt; = = = = = = = =
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>RaaN</name>
  <email>raan2...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-23T17:56:37Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/talk.philosophy.misc/browse_thread/thread/7a31beaf19a48816/058b3eff6849926c?show_docid=058b3eff6849926c"/>
  <title type="text">Re: If one can&#39;t afford children, one should not have children.</title>
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  Had they trimmed it down to a nuclear family unit you wouldn&#39;t need to &lt;br&gt; deal with the likes of me either so double plus good.
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  <author>
  <name>Phi-Sci Online</name>
  <email>li...@37.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-23T16:53:32Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/talk.philosophy.misc/browse_thread/thread/4e0df2e3dca6b1d0/52ee91c26c972d24?show_docid=52ee91c26c972d24</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/talk.philosophy.misc/browse_thread/thread/4e0df2e3dca6b1d0/52ee91c26c972d24?show_docid=52ee91c26c972d24"/>
  <title type="text">Photography and Philosophy: Essays on the Pencil of Nature (review)</title>
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  Link: &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://metapsychology.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php?type=book&amp;id=4360&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; The nature of photographs or photography has entered our common &lt;br&gt; language to the extent that we find ourselves speaking easily of &lt;br&gt; photographic memories or photographic likenesses. We have theatre that &lt;br&gt; titles itself, &amp;quot;I, camera&amp;quot;. We even say that the camera cannot lie; an
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