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Dana Tweedy  
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 More options Mar 22 2003, 10:50 pm
Newsgroups: talk.origins
From: "Dana Tweedy" <twee...@cvn.net>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 03:46:41 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sat, Mar 22 2003 10:46 pm
Subject: Re: Piltdown Fraud: Evolution evangelists.

"J McCoy" <mc...@sunset.net> wrote in message

news:3f355ee.0303221833.3dce89ff@posting.google.com...
> "Dana Tweedy" <twee...@cvn.net> wrote in message

<news:b5gj0o$27olig$1@ID-35161.news.dfncis.de>...
snipping

Again, you ignore what I wrote,  why is that?   What do you fear?

> Actually, what you've done is sidestep the rea questions. You think by
> focusing on where my quotations come from, the validity of using them,
> and like questions, that you can avoid dealing with the actual
> quotations themselves.  The more power to me.

Actually there is no need for me to "deal with the quotations".  It's
already been well established that the quotes you stole from the other site
were taken out of context, and do not mean what you want them to.  My point
is to show that by stealing the quotes in the first place, lying about where
they came from, and then trying to excuse your stealing and lying by
claiming "the ends justify the means" , you are behaving in a dishonest and
unChristian manner.    That the quotes are themsevles lies is another matter
entirely.

> You're trying to choke off the pipeline of quotations, as thus every
> other evolutionist has done.

Again, there is no need to "choke off the pipeline of quotations".  The
quotations are falsehoods.  Lies of omission.  I leave it to others to
demostrate how those quotes are dishonest.  I am content to show that you
are dishonest in how you use them.

> If a quotation is used, you:

> 1. Accuse of taking out of context

It's been amply shown by several posters that those quotes are indeed taken
out of context.

> 2. Plagiarizing

Stealing another person's words without attribution is plagurizing.  You
quoted from "Anointed one"'s site without making proper attribution.
Futhermore you implied that you made photocopies of the original sources.
That is another falsehood.

> But you don't answer the real questions.

You never presented any "real questions".   You cut and pasted a bunch of
misquotes and lies of omission.  You didn't present any real questions that
required an answer.

> You never:

> 1. prove these to be out of context.

That has already been done, by several posters.  Why should I re-invent the
wheel?

> 2. deal with the fact that a evolutionist has admitted a portion of
> evolution to be fraudulent, hence the quotation.

Those quotations were carefully taken out of context, to change the meaning.
The "evolutionist(s)" in those quotations was NOT admitting that "a portion
of evolution" was "fraudulent".   That is the whole point of a "lie of
omission", to omit the part of the person's words that explains and
clarifies the person's  position.  Those quotes you stole are classic lies
of omission.  They are false, and using them is perpetrating a falsehood.
This is beside the point that your use of them was at best dishonest, and at
worst despicable.

DJT


 
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