> > On 11/17/2012 7:53 PM, Ray Martinez wrote:

> > > On Nov 17, 4:22 pm, RMcBane <rmcb...@aol.com> wrote:
> > >> On 11/17/2012 6:22 PM, Ray Martinez wrote:

> > >>> On Nov 16, 6:32 pm, Slow Vehicle <oneslowvehi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > >>> [snip material addressed previously....]

> > >>>>> Don't have the foggiest idea as to what you are talking about. You
> > >>>>> remind me of some person standing on a street corner holding up a sign
> > >>>>> that makes no sense.

> > >>>> I'm not surprised that you are confused. the only way to maintain
> > >>>> your lies is to ignore rationality and logic.

> > >>>> Follow:
> > >>>> According to you, in 3000 BCE, there were 8 humans on the planet, 4 of
> > >>>> which were women.
> > >>>> 140 years later, the pyramid at Giza was constructed.

> > >>> I've never said any such thing. The Giza pyramid was constructed
> > >>> 10,000 to 12,0000 BC, which puts it squarely in the non-existent Stone
> > >>> Age. Evolutionism is completely false. The Giza pyramid contains
> > >>> knowledge unavailable to dim Stone Age men, and technology that
> > >>> surpasses our own today. It is physical evidence that falsifies the
> > >>> ToE in its tracks. This evidence confirms that Darwinists are deluded
> > >>> liars.

> > >>> The Giza pyramid is mainly the major claims of the Bible, "written in
> > >>> unalterable stone," constructed at least 8500 years before any
> > >>> Biblical author was born. It is spectacular evidence supporting the
> > >>> existence of the God of Israel and the veracity of prophecy.

> > >> Ray,
> > >> you never answered my question years ago about the Great Pyramid.
> > >> Back
> > >> then and now again, you claimed that it was built before the flood. So
> > >> I asked how do you explain the thousands of feet of sediments and
> > >> fossils contained in those sediments, below the Pyramid.

> > > I said back then and I'll say it again: I don't possess any knowledge
> > > concerning the earth beneath the GP* except that it was built on a
> > > foundation or platform made of solid rock. In pyramidology literarure
> > > this platform is commonly referred to as "the ground."

> > > *That is, beneath the subterranean pit or room known as the "upside
> > > down room." Said room and foundation are accurately depicted here:

> > >http://www.gizapyramid.com/newtour5.htm

> > > Also, do your questions assume I am a YEC? I am not. I am a OEC.

> > No, I am quite aware that you are an OEC, but young bio sphere. But
> > there are fossils deep in the earth below the GP, much deeper than the
> > levels shown by your link above. So what is your opinion? Were these
> > fossils the remains of some previous Bio Sphere? Or what how do you
> > explain them?

> See reply at end of your message.

> > >> Obviously they
> > >> had to have been there before the Pyramid was built. Many creationist
> > >> would claim that those sediments were deposited by the flood, but that's
> > >> not possible if the Great Pyramid was built before the flood. How can
> > >> that be, how did all those thousand of feet of sediments and fossils
> > >> that the GP is built upon get deposited if not by the flood?

> > > Again, I don't know. But I am curious: Are you suggesting that the
> > > sediments and fossils support Flood occurrence?

> > I wasn't suggesting anything but what I obviously asked. If the great
> > thicknesses of sediments were deposited by the flood, then how could the
> > GP have been built before the flood? If the GP was built before the
> > flood, then that mean that the great thicknesses of sediments and
> > fossils could not have been deposited by the flood. So are you saying
> > that sedimentary layers and fossils are not evidence of the Flood?

> > >> And if much of the sediment seen around the world was deposited by the
> > >> flood then how do you explain that the Great Pyramid was left uncovered
> > >> by the flood with those sediment?

> > > I don't know. Why don't you ask a YEC who accepts those deposits
> > > caused by the Flood?

> > > Go to Talk.Rationalhttp://talkrational.org/index.php

> > > Inquire YEC Dave Hawkins who, like myself, accepts the claims of
> > > pyramidology. He is a regular poster who can be found hanging around
> > > the Creo-Evo debate forums.

> > So again are you saying that sedimentary rock and fossils were not
> > created by the flood and thus that there is no geologic evidence for the
> > flood?

> > > Ray

> > --
> > Richard McBane

> I've never said that. IN this topic I am arguing that the interpretive
> philosophy of evolutionism (Naturalism) dismisses a Genesis Flood
> (Supernaturalism) by starting assumption.

> I do believe I understand what you're getting at. Let me think about
> your questionS. I'll get back to you ASAP.

> By the way: Have you studied the Giza pyramid?