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Robert

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Feb 16, 2013, 11:23:24 PM2/16/13
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EVOLUTION OR THE BIBLE?

GENESIS CHAPTER 1:1-5,
DAY ONE; HE CREATED LIGHT AND DIVIDED IT FROM DARKNESS, AND THE
EARTH WAS WITHOUT FORM AND VOID.
DAT TWO; HE CREATED FIRMAMENT AND DIVIDED THE WATERS FROM THE
WATERS, AND THE FIRMAMENT HE CALLED HEAVEN.
DAY THREE; HE DIVIDED THE EARTH FROM THE WATERS AND ON THE DRY LAND
HE COMMANDED THE EARTH TO BRING FORTH GRASS, HERBS, AND TREES.
DAY FOUR; HE SET THE LIGHTS IN THE FIRMAMENT, THE GREATER TO RULE
THE DAY AND THE LESSER TO RULE THE NIGHT, AND THE STARS ALSO HE MADE.
AND THE LIGHTS WERE TO BE SIGNS FOR THE SEASONS, FOR DAYS, AND YEARS.
DAY FIVE; 20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the
moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth
in the open firmament of heaven. 21 And God created great whales, and
every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth
abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind:
and God saw that it was good. 22 And God blessed them, saying, Be
fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl
multiply in the earth.
DAY 6; 26 ¶And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and
over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth,
and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God
created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male
and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said
unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and
subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the
fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the
earth.
THE STORY IN GENESIS 1 IS THAT GOD SAID; “Let the waters bring forth
abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly
above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. THIS CLEARLY STATES
GOD USED EVOLUTION TO CREATE LIFE FROM THE SEA. AND THEN HE CREATES
MAN, IN DAY SIX, IN HIS OWN IMAGE, IN THE IMAGE OF GOD CREATED HE
THEM, BOTH MALE AND FEMALE. IT DOESN’T STATE THAT HE CREATED MAN FROM
THE EARTH BUT HE DOES THIS JUST AFTER HE SAID; “20; LET THE WATERS
BRING FORTH, ABUNDANTLY, THE MOVING CREATURE THAT HATH LIFE.” IN
GENESIS CHAPTER 1 GOD CREATES LIFE FROM THE SEA AND THE MAN IS THE
LAST OF THESE CREATURES HE CREATED FROM THE SEA, IN DAY SIX, AND THEN
HE RESTED ON THE SEVENTH DAY..
GENESIS CHAPTER ONE EXPLAINS HOW GOD CREATED LIFE, INCLUDING MAN,
FROM THE SEA. CHAPTER TWO HE USES A PARABLE TO TRY AND EXPLAIN
EVOLUTION TO PRIMITIVE MAN. CHAPTER TWO TELLS A DIFFERENT STORY THAN
CHAPTER ONE. IN CHAPTER ONE, DAY THREE, HE COMMANDED THE EARTH TO
BRING FORTH GRASS, HERBS, AND TREES FOR FRUIT AND HE DIDN’T CREATE MAN
UNTIL DAY SIX. CHAPTER TWO TELLS A DIFFERENT STORY. HE CREATES MAN
FROM THE DUST OF THE EARTH AND THEN PLANTS A GARDEN. GENESIS 2:7-9,
7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed
into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. 8
¶And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put
the man whom he had formed. 9 And out of the ground made the Lord God
to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food;
the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of
knowledge of good and evil.

SO, I ASK YOU, IS THE STORY OF ADAM AND EVE AN ACTUAL EVENT, OR A
PARABLE, LIKE JESUS USED. IF IT WAS AN EVENT, THEN WHERE IS THE
GARDEN OF EDEN TODAY? I WOULD THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THE
CHERUBIM AND THE FLAMING SWORD, FOR GOD DID NOT REMOVE THE GARDEN, HE
JUST BLOCKED THE EAST GATE TO PROTECT THE WAY OF THE TREE OF LIFE.
GENESIS 3:24, 24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east
of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned
every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
AFTER CAIN KILLED ABLE, HE TOOK A WIFE FROM ANOTHER LAND, WHERE DID
THIS WOMAN COME FROM? GENESIS 4:16-17, 16 ¶And Cain went out from
the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of
Eden. 17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch:
and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name
of his son, Enoch.
ABLE WAS A SHEPHERD LIKE CHRIST. CAIN WAS A TILLER OF THE EARTH,
CARNAL, THE GOOD AND THE BAD.
ADAM AND EVE IN THE GARDEN IS A STORY TO EXPOSE THE TRICKERY OF
SATAN, FALSE PROPHET. WHAT THIS STORY TELLS US IS TO BEWARE OF FALSE
PROPHETS. THEY WILL BE APPEALING TO THE EYE AND AMIABLE, CHARISMATIC,
LIKABLE, FRIENDLY, BEINGS AND THEY WILL TELL THE TRUTH, (JUST NOT THE
WHOLE TRUTH,) TO CONVINCE US THEY ARE OF GOD, HIS MESSENGER. THE
SERPENT DIDN’T LIE TO EVE, HE TOLD HER SHE WOULD NOT SURELY DIE IF SHE
PARTOOK OF THE TREE OF KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL, AND SHE DIDN’T.
AND HE ALSO TOLD HER THEY WOULD BECOME AS GODS, KNOWING GOOD FROM
EVIL, AND GOD SAID: GENESIS 3:24, 22 ¶And the Lord God said,
Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and
now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life,
and eat, and live for ever:
GOD GAVE MAN LOVE, JOY, PEACE, FOR GOD IS LOVE. AFTER THEY DISOBEYED
GOD, THEY KNEW THEY WERE NAKED, THEY WERE AFRAID, THEY LEARNED TO MAKE
EXCUSES AND PUT THE BLAME ON OTHERS FOR THEIR ACTIONS. GENESIS
3:9-13, 9 And the Lord God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where
art thou? 10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was
afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself. 11 And he said, Who
told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I
commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat? 12 And the man said, The
woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I
did eat. 13 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that
thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did
eat.
LET ME ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT SOMETHING: IF GOD CREATED MAN BY
EVOLUTION, HOW WOULD HE EXPLAIN THIS PROCESS TO PRIMITIVE MAN? NOW, I
CAN’T FIND PROOF THAT THE GARDEN EXISTED, AND THAT THERE WAS AN ADAM
AND EVE IN THE GARDEN, ON THE OTHER HAND, I THINK THERE IS, AT LEAST,
A HINT OF MAN BEING CREATED BY EVOLUTION. THAT IS THE MIRACLE OF
BIRTH. BIRTH OF MAN BEGINS WITH THE EGG BEING FERTILIZED BY A SPERM,
A TINY LITTLE THING THAT SWIMS UP A CANAL OF BODILY FLUIDS. ONCE
IMPREGNATED, IT BEGINS TO MUTATE AND SPLIT INTO MANY CELLS, DIFFERENT
CELLS TO MAKE BONE, SKIN, FLESH, ORGANS, AND OVER A PERIOD OF TIME,
BEGINS TO TAKE THE SHAPE OF A HUMAN BEING. FOR 9 MONTHS, THIS EMBRYO
IS SUBMERSED IN AN OCEAN OF BODILY FLUIDS, MUCH THE SAME WAY SCIENCE
TELLS US LIFE BEGAN ON EARTH, FROM THE OCEAN. FOR ME, THE MIRACLE OF
BIRTH IS A DUPLICATE, AN EXACT EXAMPLE IN MINIATURE, OF THE WAY GOD
USED EVOLUTION TO CREATE LIFE ON EARTH.

drose...@yahoo.com

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On Saturday, February 16, 2013 11:23:24 PM UTC-5, Robert wrote:

> LET ME ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT SOMETHING: IF GOD CREATED MAN BY
>
> EVOLUTION, HOW WOULD HE EXPLAIN THIS PROCESS TO PRIMITIVE MAN? NOW, I
>
> CAN’T FIND PROOF THAT THE GARDEN EXISTED, AND THAT THERE WAS AN ADAM
>
> AND EVE IN THE GARDEN,
The Garden got washed out during the Flood. The Flaming Sword was put out. One very wet angel returned to heaven, which fortunately had dried out when its waters had descended.

What I really want to know if one serpent got cursed, why are there so many different species of serpent that are alive today?

John S. Wilkins

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Feb 17, 2013, 1:01:02 AM2/17/13
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To maximise the number of punished animals.
--
John S. Wilkins, Associate, Philosophy, University of Sydney
Honorary Fellow, University of Melbourne
- http://evolvingthoughts.net

Boikat

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Feb 17, 2013, 10:55:11 AM2/17/13
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On Feb 16, 10:23 pm, Robert <holling...@gmail.com> wrote:
> EVOLUTION OR THE BIBLE?
>

<snip>

Your keyboard seems to have an intermittant problem with it's "Caps
Lock" key. I suggest ou replace your keyboard, ASAP, lest readers
conclude you are some sort of idiot.

Boikat

Paul J Gans

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Feb 17, 2013, 12:00:24 PM2/17/13
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John S. Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
><drose...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> On Saturday, February 16, 2013 11:23:24 PM UTC-5, Robert wrote:
>>
>> > LET ME ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT SOMETHING: IF GOD CREATED MAN BY
>> > EVOLUTION, HOW WOULD HE EXPLAIN THIS PROCESS TO PRIMITIVE MAN? NOW, I
>> > CAN'T FIND PROOF THAT THE GARDEN EXISTED, AND THAT THERE WAS AN ADAM
>> > AND EVE IN THE GARDEN,
>> The Garden got washed out during the Flood. The Flaming Sword was put
>> out. One very wet angel returned to heaven, which fortunately had dried
>> out when its waters had descended.
>>
>> What I really want to know if one serpent got cursed, why are there so
>> many different species of serpent that are alive today?

>To maximise the number of punished animals.

That particular god was into that, eh?

--
--- Paul J. Gans

Harry K

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Feb 17, 2013, 1:32:49 PM2/17/13
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too late for that!

Harry K

SkyEyes

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Feb 18, 2013, 3:42:12 AM2/18/13
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On Feb 16, 9:23�pm, Robert <holling...@gmail.com> wrote:
> EVOLUTION OR THE BIBLE?
>
> GENESIS CHAPTER 1:1-5,
> � � � � DAY ONE; �HE CREATED LIGHT AND DIVIDED IT FROM DARKNESS, AND THE
> EARTH WAS WITHOUT FORM AND VOID.
> � � � � DAT TWO; �HE CREATED FIRMAMENT AND DIVIDED THE WATERS FROM THE
> WATERS, AND THE FIRMAMENT HE CALLED HEAVEN.
> � � � � DAY THREE; �HE DIVIDED THE EARTH FROM THE WATERS AND ON THE DRY LAND
> HE COMMANDED THE EARTH TO BRING FORTH GRASS, HERBS, AND TREES.
> � � � � DAY FOUR; � HE SET THE LIGHTS IN THE FIRMAMENT, THE GREATER TO RULE
> THE DAY AND THE LESSER TO RULE THE NIGHT, AND THE STARS ALSO HE MADE.
> AND THE LIGHTS WERE TO BE SIGNS FOR THE SEASONS, FOR DAYS, AND YEARS.
> � � � � DAY FIVE; �20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the
> moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth
> in the open firmament of heaven. � � � �21 And God created great whales, and
> every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth
> abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind:
> and God saw that it was good. �22 And God blessed them, saying, Be
> fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl
> multiply in the earth.
> � � � � DAY 6; �26 �And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
> likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and
> over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth,
> and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. �27 So God
> created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male
> and female created he them. �28 And God blessed them, and God said
> unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and
> subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the
> fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the
> earth.
> � � � � THE STORY IN GENESIS 1 IS THAT GOD SAID; ��Let the waters bring forth
> abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly
> above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. �THIS CLEARLY STATES
> GOD USED EVOLUTION TO CREATE LIFE FROM THE SEA. �AND THEN HE CREATES
> MAN, IN DAY SIX, IN HIS OWN IMAGE, IN THE IMAGE OF GOD CREATED HE
> THEM, BOTH MALE AND FEMALE. �IT DOESN�T STATE THAT HE CREATED MAN FROM
> THE EARTH BUT HE DOES THIS JUST AFTER HE SAID; ��20; �LET THE WATERS
> BRING FORTH, ABUNDANTLY, THE MOVING CREATURE THAT HATH LIFE.� � IN
> GENESIS CHAPTER 1 GOD CREATES LIFE FROM THE SEA AND THE MAN IS THE
> LAST OF THESE CREATURES HE CREATED FROM THE SEA, IN DAY SIX, AND THEN
> HE RESTED ON THE SEVENTH DAY..
> � � � � GENESIS CHAPTER ONE EXPLAINS HOW GOD CREATED LIFE, INCLUDING MAN,
> FROM THE SEA. �CHAPTER TWO HE USES A PARABLE TO TRY AND EXPLAIN
> EVOLUTION TO PRIMITIVE MAN. �CHAPTER TWO TELLS A DIFFERENT STORY THAN
> CHAPTER ONE. �IN CHAPTER ONE, DAY THREE, HE COMMANDED THE EARTH TO
> BRING FORTH GRASS, HERBS, AND TREES FOR FRUIT AND HE DIDN�T CREATE MAN
> UNTIL DAY SIX. �CHAPTER TWO TELLS A DIFFERENT STORY. �HE CREATES MAN
> FROM THE DUST OF THE EARTH AND THEN PLANTS A GARDEN. �GENESIS 2:7-9,
> 7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed
> into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. �8
> �And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put
> the man whom he had formed. �9 And out of the ground made the Lord God
> to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food;
> the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of
> knowledge of good and evil.
>
> � � � � SO, I ASK YOU, �IS THE STORY OF ADAM AND EVE AN ACTUAL EVENT, OR A
> PARABLE, LIKE JESUS USED. �IF IT WAS AN EVENT, THEN WHERE IS THE
> GARDEN OF EDEN TODAY? �I WOULD THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THE
> CHERUBIM AND THE FLAMING SWORD, FOR GOD DID NOT REMOVE THE GARDEN, HE
> JUST BLOCKED THE EAST GATE TO PROTECT THE WAY OF THE TREE OF LIFE.
> GENESIS �3:24, �24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east
> of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned
> every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
> � � � � AFTER CAIN KILLED ABLE, HE TOOK A WIFE FROM ANOTHER LAND, WHERE DID
> THIS WOMAN COME FROM? �GENESIS �4:16-17, � 16 �And Cain went out from
> the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of
> Eden. �17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch:
> and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name
> of his son, Enoch.
> � � � � ABLE WAS A SHEPHERD LIKE CHRIST. �CAIN WAS A TILLER OF THE EARTH,
> CARNAL, THE GOOD AND THE BAD.
> � � � � ADAM AND EVE IN THE GARDEN IS A STORY TO EXPOSE THE TRICKERY OF
> SATAN, FALSE PROPHET. � WHAT THIS STORY TELLS US IS TO BEWARE OF FALSE
> PROPHETS. �THEY WILL BE APPEALING TO THE EYE AND AMIABLE, CHARISMATIC,
> LIKABLE, FRIENDLY, BEINGS AND THEY WILL TELL THE TRUTH, (JUST NOT THE
> WHOLE TRUTH,) �TO CONVINCE US THEY ARE OF GOD, HIS MESSENGER. � THE
> SERPENT DIDN�T LIE TO EVE, HE TOLD HER SHE WOULD NOT SURELY DIE IF SHE
> PARTOOK OF THE TREE OF KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL, AND SHE DIDN�T.
> AND HE ALSO TOLD HER THEY WOULD BECOME AS GODS, KNOWING GOOD FROM
> EVIL, AND GOD SAID: �GENESIS �3:24, �22 �And the Lord God said,
> Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and
> now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life,
> and eat, and live for ever:
> � � � � GOD GAVE MAN LOVE, JOY, PEACE, FOR GOD IS LOVE. �AFTER THEY DISOBEYED
> GOD, THEY KNEW THEY WERE NAKED, THEY WERE AFRAID, THEY LEARNED TO MAKE
> EXCUSES AND PUT THE BLAME ON OTHERS FOR THEIR ACTIONS. �GENESIS
> 3:9-13, �9 And the Lord God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where
> art thou? �10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was
> afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself. �11 And he said, Who
> told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I
> commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat? �12 And the man said, The
> woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I
> did eat. �13 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that
> thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did
> eat.
> � � � � LET ME ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT SOMETHING: �IF GOD CREATED MAN BY
> EVOLUTION, HOW WOULD HE EXPLAIN THIS PROCESS TO PRIMITIVE MAN? �NOW, I
> CAN�T FIND PROOF THAT THE GARDEN EXISTED, AND THAT THERE WAS AN ADAM
> AND EVE IN THE GARDEN, ON THE OTHER HAND, I THINK THERE IS, AT LEAST,
> A HINT OF MAN BEING CREATED BY EVOLUTION. �THAT IS THE MIRACLE OF
> BIRTH. �BIRTH OF MAN BEGINS WITH THE EGG BEING FERTILIZED BY A SPERM,
> A TINY LITTLE THING THAT SWIMS UP A CANAL OF BODILY FLUIDS. �ONCE
> IMPREGNATED, IT BEGINS TO MUTATE AND SPLIT INTO MANY CELLS, DIFFERENT
> CELLS TO MAKE BONE, SKIN, FLESH, ORGANS, AND OVER A PERIOD OF TIME,
> BEGINS TO TAKE THE SHAPE OF A HUMAN BEING. �FOR 9 MONTHS, THIS EMBRYO
> IS SUBMERSED IN AN OCEAN OF BODILY FLUIDS, MUCH THE SAME WAY SCIENCE
> TELLS US LIFE BEGAN ON EARTH, FROM THE OCEAN. �FOR ME, THE MIRACLE OF
> BIRTH IS A DUPLICATE, AN EXACT EXAMPLE IN MINIATURE, OF THE WAY GOD
> USED EVOLUTION TO CREATE LIFE ON EARTH.

Calm down, take your caps lock off, and *breathe*. It's a *myth*.
None of it is meant to be taken literally.

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com

timoth...@gmail.com

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Particularly the monotremes. How come the monotremes always cop it? Is there something morally wrong with a cloaca? No placenta, no ticket to ride.

raven1

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On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 20:23:24 -0800 (PST), Robert
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Is there some REASON you keep SHOUTING?
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EAC Vice President (President in charge of vice)
BAAWA Knight

John Stockwell

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Feb 18, 2013, 5:17:09 PM2/18/13
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On Saturday, February 16, 2013 9:23:24 PM UTC-7, Robert wrote:
> EVOLUTION OR THE BIBLE?

I would say "evolution" definitely.

>
>
>
> GENESIS CHAPTER 1:1-5,
>
> DAY ONE; HE CREATED LIGHT AND DIVIDED IT FROM DARKNESS, AND THE
>
> EARTH WAS WITHOUT FORM AND VOID.
>
> DAT TWO; HE CREATED FIRMAMENT AND DIVIDED THE WATERS FROM THE
>
> WATERS, AND THE FIRMAMENT HE CALLED HEAVEN.
>
> DAY THREE; HE DIVIDED THE EARTH FROM THE WATERS AND ON THE DRY LAND
>
> HE COMMANDED THE EARTH TO BRING FORTH GRASS, HERBS, AND TREES.
>
> DAY FOUR; HE SET THE LIGHTS IN THE FIRMAMENT, THE GREATER TO RULE
>
> THE DAY AND THE LESSER TO RULE THE NIGHT, AND THE STARS ALSO HE MADE.
>
> AND THE LIGHTS WERE TO BE SIGNS FOR THE SEASONS, FOR DAYS, AND YEARS.
>
> DAY FIVE; 20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the
>
> moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth
>
> in the open firmament of heaven. 21 And God created great whales, and
>
> every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth
>
> abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind:
>
> and God saw that it was good. 22 And God blessed them, saying, Be
>
> fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl
>
> multiply in the earth.
>
> DAY 6; 26 �And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
>
> likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and
>
> over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth,
>
> and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God
>
> created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male
>
> and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said
>
> unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and
>
> subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the
>
> fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the
>
> earth.
>
> THE STORY IN GENESIS 1 IS THAT GOD SAID; �Let the waters bring forth
>
> abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly
>
> above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. THIS CLEARLY STATES
>
> GOD USED EVOLUTION TO CREATE LIFE FROM THE SEA. AND THEN HE CREATES
>
> MAN, IN DAY SIX, IN HIS OWN IMAGE, IN THE IMAGE OF GOD CREATED HE
>
> THEM, BOTH MALE AND FEMALE. IT DOESN�T STATE THAT HE CREATED MAN FROM
>
> THE EARTH BUT HE DOES THIS JUST AFTER HE SAID; �20; LET THE WATERS
>
> BRING FORTH, ABUNDANTLY, THE MOVING CREATURE THAT HATH LIFE.� IN
>
> GENESIS CHAPTER 1 GOD CREATES LIFE FROM THE SEA AND THE MAN IS THE
>
> LAST OF THESE CREATURES HE CREATED FROM THE SEA, IN DAY SIX, AND THEN
>
> HE RESTED ON THE SEVENTH DAY..
>
> GENESIS CHAPTER ONE EXPLAINS HOW GOD CREATED LIFE, INCLUDING MAN,
>
> FROM THE SEA. CHAPTER TWO HE USES A PARABLE TO TRY AND EXPLAIN
>
> EVOLUTION TO PRIMITIVE MAN. CHAPTER TWO TELLS A DIFFERENT STORY THAN
>
> CHAPTER ONE. IN CHAPTER ONE, DAY THREE, HE COMMANDED THE EARTH TO
>
> BRING FORTH GRASS, HERBS, AND TREES FOR FRUIT AND HE DIDN�T CREATE MAN
>
> UNTIL DAY SIX. CHAPTER TWO TELLS A DIFFERENT STORY. HE CREATES MAN
>
> FROM THE DUST OF THE EARTH AND THEN PLANTS A GARDEN. GENESIS 2:7-9,
>
> 7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed
>
> into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. 8
>
> �And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put
>
> the man whom he had formed. 9 And out of the ground made the Lord God
>
> to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food;
>
> the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of
>
> knowledge of good and evil.
>
>
>
> SO, I ASK YOU, IS THE STORY OF ADAM AND EVE AN ACTUAL EVENT, OR A
>
> PARABLE, LIKE JESUS USED. IF IT WAS AN EVENT, THEN WHERE IS THE
>
> GARDEN OF EDEN TODAY? I WOULD THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THE
>
> CHERUBIM AND THE FLAMING SWORD, FOR GOD DID NOT REMOVE THE GARDEN, HE
>
> JUST BLOCKED THE EAST GATE TO PROTECT THE WAY OF THE TREE OF LIFE.
>
> GENESIS 3:24, 24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east
>
> of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned
>
> every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
>
> AFTER CAIN KILLED ABLE, HE TOOK A WIFE FROM ANOTHER LAND, WHERE DID
>
> THIS WOMAN COME FROM? GENESIS 4:16-17, 16 �And Cain went out from
>
> the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of
>
> Eden. 17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch:
>
> and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name
>
> of his son, Enoch.
>
> ABLE WAS A SHEPHERD LIKE CHRIST. CAIN WAS A TILLER OF THE EARTH,
>
> CARNAL, THE GOOD AND THE BAD.
>
> ADAM AND EVE IN THE GARDEN IS A STORY TO EXPOSE THE TRICKERY OF
>
> SATAN, FALSE PROPHET. WHAT THIS STORY TELLS US IS TO BEWARE OF FALSE
>
> PROPHETS. THEY WILL BE APPEALING TO THE EYE AND AMIABLE, CHARISMATIC,
>
> LIKABLE, FRIENDLY, BEINGS AND THEY WILL TELL THE TRUTH, (JUST NOT THE
>
> WHOLE TRUTH,) TO CONVINCE US THEY ARE OF GOD, HIS MESSENGER. THE
>
> SERPENT DIDN�T LIE TO EVE, HE TOLD HER SHE WOULD NOT SURELY DIE IF SHE
>
> PARTOOK OF THE TREE OF KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL, AND SHE DIDN�T.
>
> AND HE ALSO TOLD HER THEY WOULD BECOME AS GODS, KNOWING GOOD FROM
>
> EVIL, AND GOD SAID: GENESIS 3:24, 22 �And the Lord God said,
>
> Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and
>
> now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life,
>
> and eat, and live for ever:
>
> GOD GAVE MAN LOVE, JOY, PEACE, FOR GOD IS LOVE. AFTER THEY DISOBEYED
>
> GOD, THEY KNEW THEY WERE NAKED, THEY WERE AFRAID, THEY LEARNED TO MAKE
>
> EXCUSES AND PUT THE BLAME ON OTHERS FOR THEIR ACTIONS. GENESIS
>
> 3:9-13, 9 And the Lord God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where
>
> art thou? 10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was
>
> afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself. 11 And he said, Who
>
> told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I
>
> commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat? 12 And the man said, The
>
> woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I
>
> did eat. 13 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that
>
> thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did
>
> eat.
>
> LET ME ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT SOMETHING: IF GOD CREATED MAN BY
>
> EVOLUTION, HOW WOULD HE EXPLAIN THIS PROCESS TO PRIMITIVE MAN? NOW, I
>
> CAN�T FIND PROOF THAT THE GARDEN EXISTED, AND THAT THERE WAS AN ADAM

pakicetus

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Feb 18, 2013, 6:53:12 PM2/18/13
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On Saturday, February 16, 2013 11:23:24 PM UTC-5, Robert wrote:
> EVOLUTION OR THE BIBLE?
>
>
>
> GENESIS CHAPTER 1:1-5,
>
> DAY ONE; HE CREATED LIGHT AND DIVIDED IT FROM DARKNESS, AND THE
>
> EARTH WAS WITHOUT FORM AND VOID.
>
> DAT TWO; HE CREATED FIRMAMENT AND DIVIDED THE WATERS FROM THE
>
> WATERS, AND THE FIRMAMENT HE CALLED HEAVEN.
>
> DAY THREE; HE DIVIDED THE EARTH FROM THE WATERS AND ON THE DRY LAND
>
> HE COMMANDED THE EARTH TO BRING FORTH GRASS, HERBS, AND TREES.
>
> DAY FOUR; HE SET THE LIGHTS IN THE FIRMAMENT, THE GREATER TO RULE
>
> THE DAY AND THE LESSER TO RULE THE NIGHT, AND THE STARS ALSO HE MADE.
>
> AND THE LIGHTS WERE TO BE SIGNS FOR THE SEASONS, FOR DAYS, AND YEARS.
>
> DAY FIVE; 20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the
>
> moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth
>
> in the open firmament of heaven. 21 And God created great whales, and
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> every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth
>
> abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind:
>
> and God saw that it was good. 22 And God blessed them, saying, Be
>
> fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl
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> multiply in the earth.
>
> DAY 6; 26 �And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
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> likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and
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> over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth,
>
> and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God
>
> created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male
>
> and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said
>
> unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and
>
> subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the
>
> fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the
>
> earth.
>
> THE STORY IN GENESIS 1 IS THAT GOD SAID; �Let the waters bring forth
>
> abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly
>
> above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. THIS CLEARLY STATES
>
> GOD USED EVOLUTION TO CREATE LIFE FROM THE SEA. AND THEN HE CREATES
>
> MAN, IN DAY SIX, IN HIS OWN IMAGE, IN THE IMAGE OF GOD CREATED HE
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> THEM, BOTH MALE AND FEMALE. IT DOESN�T STATE THAT HE CREATED MAN FROM
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> THE EARTH BUT HE DOES THIS JUST AFTER HE SAID; �20; LET THE WATERS
>
> BRING FORTH, ABUNDANTLY, THE MOVING CREATURE THAT HATH LIFE.� IN
>
> GENESIS CHAPTER 1 GOD CREATES LIFE FROM THE SEA AND THE MAN IS THE
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> LAST OF THESE CREATURES HE CREATED FROM THE SEA, IN DAY SIX, AND THEN
>
> HE RESTED ON THE SEVENTH DAY..
>
> GENESIS CHAPTER ONE EXPLAINS HOW GOD CREATED LIFE, INCLUDING MAN,
>
> FROM THE SEA. CHAPTER TWO HE USES A PARABLE TO TRY AND EXPLAIN
>
> EVOLUTION TO PRIMITIVE MAN. CHAPTER TWO TELLS A DIFFERENT STORY THAN
>
> CHAPTER ONE. IN CHAPTER ONE, DAY THREE, HE COMMANDED THE EARTH TO
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> BRING FORTH GRASS, HERBS, AND TREES FOR FRUIT AND HE DIDN�T CREATE MAN
>
> UNTIL DAY SIX. CHAPTER TWO TELLS A DIFFERENT STORY. HE CREATES MAN
>
> FROM THE DUST OF THE EARTH AND THEN PLANTS A GARDEN. GENESIS 2:7-9,
>
> 7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed
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> into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. 8
>
> �And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put
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> the man whom he had formed. 9 And out of the ground made the Lord God
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> to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food;
>
> the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of
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> knowledge of good and evil.
>
>
>
> SO, I ASK YOU, IS THE STORY OF ADAM AND EVE AN ACTUAL EVENT, OR A
>
> PARABLE, LIKE JESUS USED. IF IT WAS AN EVENT, THEN WHERE IS THE
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> GARDEN OF EDEN TODAY? I WOULD THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THE
>
> CHERUBIM AND THE FLAMING SWORD, FOR GOD DID NOT REMOVE THE GARDEN, HE
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> JUST BLOCKED THE EAST GATE TO PROTECT THE WAY OF THE TREE OF LIFE.
>
> GENESIS 3:24, 24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east
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> of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned
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> every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
>
> AFTER CAIN KILLED ABLE, HE TOOK A WIFE FROM ANOTHER LAND, WHERE DID
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> THIS WOMAN COME FROM? GENESIS 4:16-17, 16 �And Cain went out from
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> the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of
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> Eden. 17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch:
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> and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name
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> of his son, Enoch.
>
> ABLE WAS A SHEPHERD LIKE CHRIST. CAIN WAS A TILLER OF THE EARTH,
>
> CARNAL, THE GOOD AND THE BAD.
>
> ADAM AND EVE IN THE GARDEN IS A STORY TO EXPOSE THE TRICKERY OF
>
> SATAN, FALSE PROPHET. WHAT THIS STORY TELLS US IS TO BEWARE OF FALSE
>
> PROPHETS. THEY WILL BE APPEALING TO THE EYE AND AMIABLE, CHARISMATIC,
>
> LIKABLE, FRIENDLY, BEINGS AND THEY WILL TELL THE TRUTH, (JUST NOT THE
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> WHOLE TRUTH,) TO CONVINCE US THEY ARE OF GOD, HIS MESSENGER. THE
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> SERPENT DIDN�T LIE TO EVE, HE TOLD HER SHE WOULD NOT SURELY DIE IF SHE
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> PARTOOK OF THE TREE OF KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL, AND SHE DIDN�T.
>
> AND HE ALSO TOLD HER THEY WOULD BECOME AS GODS, KNOWING GOOD FROM
>
> EVIL, AND GOD SAID: GENESIS 3:24, 22 �And the Lord God said,
>
> Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and
>
> now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life,
>
> and eat, and live for ever:
>
> GOD GAVE MAN LOVE, JOY, PEACE, FOR GOD IS LOVE. AFTER THEY DISOBEYED
>
> GOD, THEY KNEW THEY WERE NAKED, THEY WERE AFRAID, THEY LEARNED TO MAKE
>
> EXCUSES AND PUT THE BLAME ON OTHERS FOR THEIR ACTIONS. GENESIS
>
> 3:9-13, 9 And the Lord God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where
>
> art thou? 10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was
>
> afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself. 11 And he said, Who
>
> told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I
>
> commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat? 12 And the man said, The
>
> woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I
>
> did eat. 13 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that
>
> thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did
>
> eat.
>
> LET ME ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT SOMETHING: IF GOD CREATED MAN BY
>
> EVOLUTION, HOW WOULD HE EXPLAIN THIS PROCESS TO PRIMITIVE MAN? NOW, I
>
> CAN�T FIND PROOF THAT THE GARDEN EXISTED, AND THAT THERE WAS AN ADAM
>
> AND EVE IN THE GARDEN, ON THE OTHER HAND, I THINK THERE IS, AT LEAST,
>
> A HINT OF MAN BEING CREATED BY EVOLUTION. THAT IS THE MIRACLE OF
>
> BIRTH. BIRTH OF MAN BEGINS WITH THE EGG BEING FERTILIZED BY A SPERM,
>
> A TINY LITTLE THING THAT SWIMS UP A CANAL OF BODILY FLUIDS. ONCE
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> IMPREGNATED, IT BEGINS TO MUTATE AND SPLIT INTO MANY CELLS, DIFFERENT
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> CELLS TO MAKE BONE, SKIN, FLESH, ORGANS, AND OVER A PERIOD OF TIME,
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> BEGINS TO TAKE THE SHAPE OF A HUMAN BEING. FOR 9 MONTHS, THIS EMBRYO
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> IS SUBMERSED IN AN OCEAN OF BODILY FLUIDS, MUCH THE SAME WAY SCIENCE
>
> TELLS US LIFE BEGAN ON EARTH, FROM THE OCEAN. FOR ME, THE MIRACLE OF
>
> BIRTH IS A DUPLICATE, AN EXACT EXAMPLE IN MINIATURE, OF THE WAY GOD
>
> USED EVOLUTION TO CREATE LIFE ON EARTH.

*Gasp*. Stop talking. We already know where the myth comes from= Epic of Gilgamesh.

Walter Bushell

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Mar 8, 2013, 10:42:21 AM3/8/13
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In article <ab76d3d9-c525-42ba...@googlegroups.com>,
pakicetus <segadar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > EVOLUTION OR THE BIBLE?

Genesis the original version

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On 18 Feb, 13:53, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 20:23:24 -0800 (PST), Robert
>
> <holling...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Is there some REASON you keep SHOUTING?

Maybe if he says it loud enough he'll actually believe it himself.

>
>
(snip)

Walter Bushell

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That is the main purpose of evangelism of course. Get the flock out
prosthelytizing and increase their commitment.
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