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wf3h

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Mar 10, 2009, 12:54:26 PM3/10/09
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looks like younger americans have grown tired of the right wing
paranoia over the last 30 years:

http://secularright.org/wordpress/?p=1718

[M]adman

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Mar 10, 2009, 4:36:24 PM3/10/09
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And as they get older they become aware of their moritality. The smart ones
turn back to God.


Burkhard

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Mar 10, 2009, 4:58:22 PM3/10/09
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You mean religion reigns through fear alone? How depressing!

'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank

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Mar 10, 2009, 6:14:58 PM3/10/09
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Neither the Republican Party nor the Religious Right can live without
each other. And both are in serious decline amongst the younger
generation.

One wonders which is the cause of rejection of the other one -- or
whether it's just a rejection of "conservatism" in toto.


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Lenny Flank
"There are no loose threads in the web of life"

Editor, Red and Black Publishers
http://www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

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Mar 10, 2009, 8:17:40 PM3/10/09
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I did. But given the choices of that poll, I'd still have to choose
"none." Dawkins will become a Christian before I do.

wf3h

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Mar 10, 2009, 8:43:20 PM3/10/09
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On Mar 10, 4:36 pm, "[M]adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:

doesn't seem to be the case unless you think being bribed is a reason
to believe in god

you creationists are a cheap bunch of bastards aren't you?

Cory Albrecht

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Mar 10, 2009, 9:46:43 PM3/10/09
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Talk about an unsubstantiated and completely unwarranted conclusion.

You can only make a claim like that if this data showed the changes of a
group over time. In other words, you'd need the same people asked the
same question at multiple point in their life, something which this
study did not do. The 60 year olds are completely different people than
the 20 year olds, and you have no idea how religious those 60 year olds
were when they were 20.

Yet more evidence that you do not understand how science and research works.

Ye Old One

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Mar 11, 2009, 10:24:30 AM3/11/09
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The smart ones know that gods are the invention of man.

--
Bob.

Brian Henderson

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Mar 12, 2009, 11:08:59 AM3/12/09
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No, the smart ones accept the reality that death is a natural part of
life rather than turning to a comforting fantasy. People die. That's
all there is to it. You can either accept it and live your life like
every minute matters or you can fight it and embrace a religious lie and
waste the only life you have.

Either way, you're still going to die.

--
Want to read more? http://BitchSpot.JadeDragonOnline.com
Religion is irrational, illogical insanity. Stop the madness!

Brian Henderson

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Mar 12, 2009, 11:14:55 AM3/12/09
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'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank wrote:

> Neither the Republican Party nor the Religious Right can live without
> each other. And both are in serious decline amongst the younger
> generation.

Sure they can, the Republicans did just fine without all the religious
trappings before the 70s. What happened is the Southern Democrats
escaped to the Republican party in the wake of desegregation and Roe v.
Wade and took their idiotic religious beliefs with them. What we've
seen is a calculated attempt to force a particular religious bent on the
American people through the political process. The Republican Party
isn't Republican anymore, it doesn't stand for any of the things that it
traditionally did like fiscal responsibility, small government and
minimal government interference in your life. In fact, the Republicans
look a lot more like Democrats in their methodology than they do like
traditional Republicans.

The Republican party can certainly survive without the Religious Right,
in fact it's high time they return to actual conservative values and
jettison the former Southern Democrats entirely.

Burkhard

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Mar 18, 2009, 7:08:08 AM3/18/09
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On 10 Mar, 20:36, "[M]adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:

Interesting finding in this respect - the more pious you are, the less
willing you seem to meet your maker:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7949111.stm

Burkhard

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Mar 18, 2009, 7:16:13 AM3/18/09
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and here the proper cite;


Andrea C. Phelps, MD; Paul K. Maciejewski, PhD; Matthew Nilsson, BS;
Tracy A. Balboni, MD; Alexi A. Wright, MD; M. Elizabeth Paulk, MD;
Elizabeth Trice, MD, PhD; Deborah Schrag, MD, MPH; John R. Peteet, MD;
Susan D. Block, MD; Holly G. Prigerson, PhD: Religious Coping and Use
of Intensive Life-Prolonging Care Near Death in Patients With Advanced
Cancer. JAMA. 2009;301(11):1140-1147.

with an abstract here:
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/short/301/11/1140

Friar Broccoli

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Mar 18, 2009, 7:41:46 AM3/18/09
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On Mar 10, 6:14 pm, "'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank" <lfl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 10, 12:54 pm, wf3h <w...@vsswireless.net> wrote:
>
> > looks like younger americans have grown tired of the right wing
> > paranoia over the last 30 years:
>
> >http://secularright.org/wordpress/?p=1718
>
> Neither the Republican Party nor the Religious Right can live without
> each other.  And both are in serious decline amongst the younger
> generation.

Hasn't religion ALWAYS been in serious decline amongst the younger
generation? It certainly was when I was young. Did CIA death squads
go out and shot all the atheists from my generation?

Mike Painter

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Mar 18, 2009, 2:36:45 PM3/18/09
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Certainly and many do turn back as they age.
But the return for most never seems to get back to the original point.
The beliefs are a little less rigid, the dress code a little less formal,
the women and children treated a little more like humans.
Thier gods are a little more abstract.

"In olden days, a glimpse of stockings
was looked on as somethng shocking"

is true.

Walter Bushell

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Mar 21, 2009, 7:57:06 PM3/21/09
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In article <fA9ul.2636$gm6...@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>,
Brian Henderson <BrianL.H...@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:

> No, the smart ones accept the reality that death is a natural part of
> life rather than turning to a comforting fantasy. People die. That's
> all there is to it. You can either accept it and live your life like
> every minute matters or you can fight it and embrace a religious lie and
> waste the only life you have.
>
> Either way, you're still going to die.

I was reading an article that said > Religious Patients More Likely to
Seek Intensive Life-Prolonging Treatment

<http://jewishbreakingnews.wordpress.com/2009/03/17/religious-patients-mo
re-likely-to-seek-intensive-life-prolonging-treatment/>


My take is the more religious are more afraid of dying, I mean, if you
are thinking you may end up in eternal torment you would want to delay
the event. Or maybe those who are religious are religious because they
are afraid of death.

Walter Bushell

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Mar 21, 2009, 8:00:14 PM3/21/09
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In article <PF9ul.2637$gm6...@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>,
Brian Henderson <BrianL.H...@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:

> The Republican party can certainly survive without the Religious Right,

I doubt that. That's the majority of their support and their current
office holders need that support.

Frank J

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Mar 21, 2009, 8:32:28 PM3/21/09
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On Mar 21, 8:00 pm, Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote:
> In article <PF9ul.2637$gm6....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>,

>  Brian Henderson <BrianL.Hender...@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > The Republican party can certainly survive without the Religious Right,
>
> I doubt that. That's the majority of their support and their current
> office holders need that support.

Sadly, yes. But I do hope for a time when the RR votes for Republican
politicians because they're the "lesser of 2 evils" (as I now often
do) instead of the pathetic panderers that they are.


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>
>
> > in fact it's high time they return to actual conservative values and

> > jettison the former Southern Democrats entirely.- Hide quoted text -
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Walter Bushell

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Mar 21, 2009, 11:06:09 PM3/21/09
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In article
<ba3fb2d3-a5c5-4ddd...@c9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Frank J <fc...@verizon.net> wrote:

> Sadly, yes. But I do hope for a time when the RR votes for Republican
> politicians because they're the "lesser of 2 evils" (as I now often
> do) instead of the pathetic panderers that they are.
> >

Vote Cthulhu! Why settle for the lesser evil?

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