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chris thompson
May 18, 2012, 5:20:04 AM5/18/12
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/17/turtle-fossil-colombia-carbonems-confrinii-car_n_1524960.html
"The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
Chris
"The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
Chris
Ron O
May 18, 2012, 7:01:41 AM5/18/12
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On May 18, 4:20 am, chris thompson <chris.linthomp...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/17/turtle-fossil-colombia-carbo...
Those are some big critters. But if you think Carbonemys was the
biggest turtle that ever lived, think again. According to the website
of the National Museum of Wales, the largest turtle on record measured
almost nine feet in length and weighed 2,016 pounds. That beast, which
washed ashore in 1988, is believed to have been about 100 years old
when it died.
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wrote:
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/17/turtle-fossil-colombia-carbo...
>
> "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
> million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
> size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
>
> Chris
QUOTE:
> "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
> million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
> size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
>
> Chris
Those are some big critters. But if you think Carbonemys was the
biggest turtle that ever lived, think again. According to the website
of the National Museum of Wales, the largest turtle on record measured
almost nine feet in length and weighed 2,016 pounds. That beast, which
washed ashore in 1988, is believed to have been about 100 years old
when it died.
END QUOTE:
chris thompson
May 18, 2012, 12:17:27 PM5/18/12
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sea turtle. Carbonemys was a fresh-water species- essentially, the
Snapping Turtle from Hell.
Chris
wiki trix
May 18, 2012, 2:15:32 PM5/18/12
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On May 18, 12:17�pm, chris thompson <chris.linthomp...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Nope. That honor goes to my darling little testudine pet "Mohel".
wrote:
Tom McDonald
May 18, 2012, 3:36:59 PM5/18/12
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*Hemidactylus*
May 18, 2012, 9:04:59 PM5/18/12
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http://www.museumwales.ac.uk/en/rhagor/article/turtle/
--
*Hemidactylus*
Tom McDonald
May 18, 2012, 9:21:06 PM5/18/12
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*Hemidactylus*
May 18, 2012, 9:46:15 PM5/18/12
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with a marine who hated water. Go figure.
I only got to see one leatherback actually in the nesting process and
that was a few years after I no longer worked on the project. Awesome
sight. They were fitting it with a satellite vest for tracking purposes.
--
*Hemidactylus*
*Hemidactylus*
May 18, 2012, 9:55:57 PM5/18/12
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--
*Hemidactylus*
John Harshman
May 18, 2012, 10:42:08 PM5/18/12
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fuss is about.
chris thompson
May 18, 2012, 10:48:31 PM5/18/12
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On May 18, 10:42�pm, John Harshman <jharsh...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> chris thompson wrote:
> >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/17/turtle-fossil-colombia-carbo...
While it might not be comparing apples and oranges, it does seem like
comparing oranges and clementines.
Chris
> chris thompson wrote:
> >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/17/turtle-fossil-colombia-carbo...
>
> > "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
> > million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
> > size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
>
> That's actually much smaller than Archelon, so I'm not sure what all the
> fuss is about.
Again, sea turtles grow considerably larger than fresh water turtles.
> > "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
> > million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
> > size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
>
> That's actually much smaller than Archelon, so I'm not sure what all the
> fuss is about.
While it might not be comparing apples and oranges, it does seem like
comparing oranges and clementines.
Chris
*Hemidactylus*
May 18, 2012, 11:18:41 PM5/18/12
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantor%27s_giant_softshell_turtle
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/05/070517074755.htm
[quote] Last observed by scientists in the wild in Cambodia in 2003,
Cantor's soft shelled turtles can grow up to 6 feet in length and weigh
more than 110 pounds. Only a few records of the species exist for Laos,
and it appears to have disappeared across much of its former range in
Vietnam and Thailand. [/quote]
Are there any living specimens that large?
But then there's this:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/04/080416213653.htm
Or I wonder how accurate this report is:
http://tortoise.org/general/wildfaqs.html#largest
[quote]Update to the "largest freshwater turtle" with documentation
The largest freshwater turtle recorded to date is the Yangtze Giant
Softshell (Rafetus swinhoei) male in Hoan Kiem Lake in Hanoi, Vietnam.
He was captured in 2011 to treat some wounds and was released later in
the year.
Here is some of the data recorded for this turtle:
Total Length = 185 cm (73 inches)
Carapace Length = 125 cm (49 inches)
Carapace width = 99 cm (39 inches)
Tail length = 35 cm (14 inches)
Weight = 169 kg (373 lbs) [/quote]
And Galapagos tortoises are no slouch for land lubbers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gal%C3%A1pagos_tortoise
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*Hemidactylus*
*Hemidactylus*
May 18, 2012, 11:23:07 PM5/18/12
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snappers, but how much of the really big ones is lore or tall tales
versus documented cases? Leatherbacks blow them all out of the water.
--
*Hemidactylus*
Mark Isaak
May 18, 2012, 11:37:43 PM5/18/12
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--
Mark Isaak eciton (at) curioustaxonomy (dot) net
"It is certain, from experience, that the smallest grain of natural
honesty and benevolence has more effect on men's conduct, than the most
pompous views suggested by theological theories and systems." - D. Hume
*Hemidactylus*
May 18, 2012, 11:48:20 PM5/18/12
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamera
Height 60�80 metres
Weight c. 5,500 tons
Air speed Mach 3
--
*Hemidactylus*
Ron O
May 19, 2012, 9:45:01 AM5/19/12
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On May 18, 10:48�pm, *Hemidactylus* <ecpho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 05/18/2012 10:42 PM, John Harshman wrote:> chris thompson wrote:
> >>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/17/turtle-fossil-colombia-carbo...
> On 05/18/2012 10:42 PM, John Harshman wrote:> chris thompson wrote:
>
> >> "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
> >> million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
> >> size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
>
> > That's actually much smaller than Archelon, so I'm not sure what all the
> > fuss is about.
>
> Hah! Gamera would chomp on Archelon like a tasty jawbreaker!
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamera
>
> Height �60 80 metres
> >> "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
> >> million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
> >> size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
>
> > That's actually much smaller than Archelon, so I'm not sure what all the
> > fuss is about.
>
> Hah! Gamera would chomp on Archelon like a tasty jawbreaker!
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamera
>
> Weight �c. 5,500 tons
> Air speed � � � Mach 3
>
> --
> *Hemidactylus*
60-80 meters in height was when he was standing upright on his hind
> Air speed � � � Mach 3
>
> --
> *Hemidactylus*
legs. Mach 3 is likely a low estimate because he was rocket plasma
powered.
Ron Okimoto
Mike Painter
May 19, 2012, 8:19:55 PM5/19/12
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is real" and did not find one reference.
I did find out that Margaret Truman, president Harry Truman's daughter
wrote most of the book.
Ron O
May 19, 2012, 9:36:22 PM5/19/12
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Last week I saw a web article on the FDA approval of Transgenic
salmon. Apparently there should be a decision soon. The author was
against having the FDA give the fish the OK. One of the reasons given
was that even though the commercial fish would be infertile triploid
females the claim was that Jurassic Park demonstrated how much you
could trust that from keeping the genes out of the wild population. I
guess that the Flintstones is real life for some people. You can even
go to the creation museum in Kentucky and see displays with children
playing with deinonychus. I wonder if they will update the raptors
and give them feathers.
Ron Okimoto
Klaus Hellnick
May 20, 2012, 2:00:08 AM5/20/12
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difficult to ride a motorcycle one handed while holding down an angry
snapper on the gas tank. I had to ride about half a mile to find a
suitable place to release it. I found it on a busy road near my house.
Box turtles (tortoises) are much easier to handle. My gas tank got
pretty scratched up.
Klaus
Burkhard
May 20, 2012, 2:58:43 AM5/20/12
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On May 20, 7:00 am, Klaus Hellnick <khelSPAMln...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Just to make sure, given the name of the thread, the "it" refers to
the turtle, not the place?
Turtles _do_ look a bit like VWs, which may have fooled you in
thinking a busy road is their natural habitat :o)
wrote:
the turtle, not the place?
Turtles _do_ look a bit like VWs, which may have fooled you in
thinking a busy road is their natural habitat :o)
Ron O
May 20, 2012, 8:14:14 AM5/20/12
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There is some type of pond turtle migration that may be an annual
migration event where hundreds of turtles try to cross the 4 lane
divided highway between Arkansas and Tulsa OK. It is sort of a
gruesome slaughter. The turtles seem to want to cross from south to
north. Quite a few get across the East bound lanes to end up as road
kill on the West bound lanes, so my guess is that a lot of turtles
make it across. My guess is that it used to be even worse in terms of
kill count, but there can't be much of the population left to keep
doing it.
Ron Okimoto
Klaus Hellnick
May 20, 2012, 10:33:29 AM5/20/12
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outside my subdivision, that leads towards a wooded area. I release many
snakes and turtles there. The snapping turtle was the trickiest
relocation. Besides the very sharp and powerful beak (aided by long neck
and bad attitude), snapping turtles also have big claws and strong legs.
I like animals and will rescue them whenever they are in trouble in a
developed area. By rescue, I mean that I give them first aid, if they
are injured, then transport them to an environment where they are able
to fend for themselves. I am not a "collector", nor do I try to make
pets of them. I feel obligated to do this because humans created an
environment where the an not cope, and it is not the animal's fault if
it is trapped on a roadway. I feel wild animals should be allowed to
live out their lives in an environment they are equipped to deal with. I
am not a fanatical environmentalist and I think humans have a right to
look after themselves, as well. My morals are not from an old, self
contradictory book, or fear of punishment. Rather, I think they are
based on empathy.
Klaus
Walter Bushell
May 21, 2012, 2:00:17 PM5/21/12
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In article <jpavbs$31p$1...@news.albasani.net>,
under the banks of creeks and such places where the turtles rest. I
have also heard that you can learn all about the sport by finding one
of those old Southern gas stations that serve as community gathering
places and ask for Lefty.
--
This space unintentionally left blank.
Klaus Hellnick <khelSP...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> There is a large drainage ditch, with much vegetation, running just
> outside my subdivision, that leads towards a wooded area. I release many
> snakes and turtles there. The snapping turtle was the trickiest
> relocation. Besides the very sharp and powerful beak (aided by long neck
> and bad attitude), snapping turtles also have big claws and strong legs.
> I like animals and will rescue them whenever they are in trouble in a
> developed area. By rescue, I mean that I give them first aid, if they
> are injured, then transport them to an environment where they are able
> to fend for themselves. I am not a "collector", nor do I try to make
> pets of them. I feel obligated to do this because humans created an
> environment where the an not cope, and it is not the animal's fault if
> it is trapped on a roadway. I feel wild animals should be allowed to
> live out their lives in an environment they are equipped to deal with. I
> am not a fanatical environmentalist and I think humans have a right to
> look after themselves, as well. My morals are not from an old, self
> contradictory book, or fear of punishment. Rather, I think they are
> based on empathy.
> Klaus
>
There is a cult of people who gather snapping turtles by reaching
> There is a large drainage ditch, with much vegetation, running just
> outside my subdivision, that leads towards a wooded area. I release many
> snakes and turtles there. The snapping turtle was the trickiest
> relocation. Besides the very sharp and powerful beak (aided by long neck
> and bad attitude), snapping turtles also have big claws and strong legs.
> I like animals and will rescue them whenever they are in trouble in a
> developed area. By rescue, I mean that I give them first aid, if they
> are injured, then transport them to an environment where they are able
> to fend for themselves. I am not a "collector", nor do I try to make
> pets of them. I feel obligated to do this because humans created an
> environment where the an not cope, and it is not the animal's fault if
> it is trapped on a roadway. I feel wild animals should be allowed to
> live out their lives in an environment they are equipped to deal with. I
> am not a fanatical environmentalist and I think humans have a right to
> look after themselves, as well. My morals are not from an old, self
> contradictory book, or fear of punishment. Rather, I think they are
> based on empathy.
> Klaus
>
under the banks of creeks and such places where the turtles rest. I
have also heard that you can learn all about the sport by finding one
of those old Southern gas stations that serve as community gathering
places and ask for Lefty.
--
This space unintentionally left blank.
*Hemidactylus*
May 21, 2012, 7:24:31 PM5/21/12
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catfish with their forearms? Surely not even rednecks are going to go
poking blindly around for snappers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noodling
Mike Painter
May 22, 2012, 12:23:20 AM5/22/12
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On 5/19/2012 11:00 PM, Klaus Hellnick wrote:
>>
>
> I rescued a snapping turtle, once, while riding a motorcycle. It is very
> difficult to ride a motorcycle one handed while holding down an angry
> snapper on the gas tank. I had to ride about half a mile to find a
> suitable place to release it. I found it on a busy road near my house.
> Box turtles (tortoises) are much easier to handle. My gas tank got
> pretty scratched up.
> Klaus
A friend of mine rescued a sea gull that had a foot caught in a tin can
>>
>
> I rescued a snapping turtle, once, while riding a motorcycle. It is very
> difficult to ride a motorcycle one handed while holding down an angry
> snapper on the gas tank. I had to ride about half a mile to find a
> suitable place to release it. I found it on a busy road near my house.
> Box turtles (tortoises) are much easier to handle. My gas tank got
> pretty scratched up.
> Klaus
and the bird made him cry.
He was carrying it to a release point and it reached up and bit him, one
half of the beak going into each nostril and it did not let go.
AGWFacts
May 29, 2012, 1:20:26 PM5/29/12
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turtles (among many other subjects).
--
"A 'crank' is defined as a man who cannot be turned." --- _Nature_, 8 Nov 1906
J.J. O'Shea
May 31, 2012, 2:39:30 PM5/31/12
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On Mon, 21 May 2012 19:24:31 -0400, Hemidactylus* wrote
(in article <gL-dnXCU0skyUyfS...@giganews.com>):
There are rednecks who play with rattlesnakes.
<http://news.yahoo.com/serpent-handling-west-virginia-pastor-dies-snake-bite-
173406645--abc-news-topstories.html> I can't find the story any more, but
there are at least a few rednecks who like to play with large kitty-cats,
including by getting out of their cars to get close to said large kitty-cats
in drive-through zoos, and two others who took a pelletgun to a zoo and shot
at a nice stripped kitty-cat, one who really didn't like being hit by pellets
and let the two rednecks know about it. And at least one German example who
wanted to swim with the polar bears.
I would not be at all surprised if there are idiots who'll try to play with
snapping turtles.
--
email to oshea dot j dot j at gmail dot com.
(in article <gL-dnXCU0skyUyfS...@giganews.com>):
<http://news.yahoo.com/serpent-handling-west-virginia-pastor-dies-snake-bite-
173406645--abc-news-topstories.html> I can't find the story any more, but
there are at least a few rednecks who like to play with large kitty-cats,
including by getting out of their cars to get close to said large kitty-cats
in drive-through zoos, and two others who took a pelletgun to a zoo and shot
at a nice stripped kitty-cat, one who really didn't like being hit by pellets
and let the two rednecks know about it. And at least one German example who
wanted to swim with the polar bears.
I would not be at all surprised if there are idiots who'll try to play with
snapping turtles.
--
email to oshea dot j dot j at gmail dot com.
Bob Casanova
May 31, 2012, 4:54:36 PM5/31/12
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On Thu, 31 May 2012 14:39:30 -0400, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by "J.J. O'Shea"
<try.n...@but.see.sig>:
I think it comes down to "think of the stupidest, most
dangerous, most pointless activity you can; odds are someone
does it".
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
in talk.origins, posted by "J.J. O'Shea"
<try.n...@but.see.sig>:
dangerous, most pointless activity you can; odds are someone
does it".
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
*Hemidactylus*
May 31, 2012, 6:52:13 PM5/31/12
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called Animal Underground and one segment featured a snake handling church:
http://video.nationalgeographic.com/video/nat-geo-wild/specials-2/animal-underworld/ngc-snake-handling/
He helps take down a wild hog and wrestles a gator in other segments.
J.J. O'Shea
Jun 5, 2012, 3:58:53 PM6/5/12
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On Thu, 31 May 2012 16:54:36 -0400, Bob Casanova wrote
(in article <ehmfs79hmn28pcofg...@4ax.com>):
This morning I saw two not-particularly-bright in-duh-viduals literally
trying to cross I-95. In rush hour. In Deepest Broward County, Florida, just
north of the Dade county line. Five lanes in each direction. Fortunately for
them a passing Sheriff's car stopped 'em before they could dent some innocent
3rd-party's front bumper. If 'breaking news' on one of the local radio
stations can be believed, the two in-duh-viduals had a bet on...
In other local news, there was this teen-ager who was 'car-surfing' and
slipped and fell and hit her head. The car she was surfing was making 45 MPH
at the time.
<http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/palm-beach-gardens-teen-describes-recovery-
from-car-2383367.html>
I have no further comment at this time. Other than there are times when I
wish that I had some real, silver-plated, Darwin awards to hand out.
(in article <ehmfs79hmn28pcofg...@4ax.com>):
trying to cross I-95. In rush hour. In Deepest Broward County, Florida, just
north of the Dade county line. Five lanes in each direction. Fortunately for
them a passing Sheriff's car stopped 'em before they could dent some innocent
3rd-party's front bumper. If 'breaking news' on one of the local radio
stations can be believed, the two in-duh-viduals had a bet on...
In other local news, there was this teen-ager who was 'car-surfing' and
slipped and fell and hit her head. The car she was surfing was making 45 MPH
at the time.
<http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/palm-beach-gardens-teen-describes-recovery-
from-car-2383367.html>
I have no further comment at this time. Other than there are times when I
wish that I had some real, silver-plated, Darwin awards to hand out.
Walter Bushell
Jun 6, 2012, 9:33:01 AM6/6/12
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Bob Casanova
Jun 6, 2012, 2:41:49 PM6/6/12
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On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 15:58:53 -0400, the following appeared in
I lived in Ft. Liquordale in the late '50s and early '60s; I
graduated from Stranahan HS in '63. I suspect these may have
been the offspring of some of those I went to school with;
it certainly sounds intellectually appropriate.
>In other local news, there was this teen-ager who was 'car-surfing' and
>slipped and fell and hit her head. The car she was surfing was making 45 MPH
>at the time.
><http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/palm-beach-gardens-teen-describes-recovery-
>from-car-2383367.html>
Seems it's a wake-up call for her...
>I have no further comment at this time. Other than there are times when I
>wish that I had some real, silver-plated, Darwin awards to hand out.
The above all survived, so they're ineligible for the full
award.
graduated from Stranahan HS in '63. I suspect these may have
been the offspring of some of those I went to school with;
it certainly sounds intellectually appropriate.
>In other local news, there was this teen-ager who was 'car-surfing' and
>slipped and fell and hit her head. The car she was surfing was making 45 MPH
>at the time.
><http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/palm-beach-gardens-teen-describes-recovery-
>from-car-2383367.html>
>I have no further comment at this time. Other than there are times when I
>wish that I had some real, silver-plated, Darwin awards to hand out.
award.
jillery
Jun 6, 2012, 10:46:07 PM6/6/12
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On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:33:01 -0400, Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com>
wrote:
Or perhaps to give to the surviving relatives. Nowaday even idiots
can have estates.
wrote:
can have estates.
chris thompson
Jun 6, 2012, 10:59:08 PM6/6/12
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On Jun 6, 9:33 am, Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote:
> In article <jqlodt0...@news3.newsguy.com>,
>
> > >>> Walter Bushell wrote:
>
> > >>>> In article <jpavbs$31...@news.albasani.net>,
> > >> <http://news.yahoo.com/serpent-handling-west-virginia-pastor-dies-snak...
> > <http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/palm-beach-gardens-teen-describes-r...
removed from the gene pool.
Chris
> In article <jqlodt0...@news3.newsguy.com>,
> "J.J. O'Shea" <try.not...@but.see.sig> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 31 May 2012 16:54:36 -0400, Bob Casanova wrote
> > (in article <ehmfs79hmn28pcofgc2i6k24qtktjpt...@4ax.com>):
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 31 May 2012 16:54:36 -0400, Bob Casanova wrote
>
> > > On Thu, 31 May 2012 14:39:30 -0400, the following appeared
> > > in talk.origins, posted by "J.J. O'Shea"
> > > <try.not...@but.see.sig>:
> > > On Thu, 31 May 2012 14:39:30 -0400, the following appeared
> > > in talk.origins, posted by "J.J. O'Shea"
>
> > >> On Mon, 21 May 2012 19:24:31 -0400, Hemidactylus* wrote
> > >> (in article <gL-dnXCU0skyUyfSnZ2dnUVZ_tOdn...@giganews.com>):
> > >> On Mon, 21 May 2012 19:24:31 -0400, Hemidactylus* wrote
>
> > >>> Walter Bushell wrote:
>
> > >>>> In article <jpavbs$31...@news.albasani.net>,
> > from-car-2383367.html>
>
> > I have no further comment at this time. Other than there are times when I
> > wish that I had some real, silver-plated, Darwin awards to hand out.
>
> To place on the grave markers?
One of the requirements for a Darwin Award is that the recipient is
>
> > I have no further comment at this time. Other than there are times when I
> > wish that I had some real, silver-plated, Darwin awards to hand out.
>
> To place on the grave markers?
removed from the gene pool.
Chris
J.J. O'Shea
Jun 8, 2012, 6:40:44 AM6/8/12
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On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:41:49 -0400, Bob Casanova wrote
(in article <vl8vs7dqj3vm959mj...@4ax.com>):
The silver awards go for making a good try and self-removal from the gene
pool. Gold-plated ones go for succeeding.
In other local news, the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office has had three
'deputy-involved' shootings in the last week:
one boy who shot his girlfriend as she was attempting to escape, dragged her
back into his trailer and shot her again multiple times, and when the
deputies showed fired on them, hitting one deputy and a police dog, but
unfortunately for him there were two other deputies, one with a M16 who fired
at least 20 rounds, full auto (gold).
one boy who did a car-jacking, tried to rob a store at gun-point, found that
the car he'd car-jacked had a problem, swam a canal to get away from the
cops, car-jacked another car on the other side of the canal, attempted to run
away from the cops, including the Sheriff's helo, exchanged gunfire with
assorted cop cars and the helo (no, I'm not making this up, he fired at the
helo...) and finally had a shoot-out with a half-dozen deputies and local
cops (silver, though given the number of holes he got I'm sure he wishes it
was gold).
and one boy who was involved in a fight in a bar which started when two girls
lit into each other, escalated when two boys lit into each other, escalated
further when several deputies showed up to break up the fight and m'boy
pulled a pistol from his waist, whereupon several deputies emptied their
magazines (gold).
I wasn't aware that I'd moved to Arizona in the 1880s.
(in article <vl8vs7dqj3vm959mj...@4ax.com>):
pool. Gold-plated ones go for succeeding.
In other local news, the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office has had three
'deputy-involved' shootings in the last week:
one boy who shot his girlfriend as she was attempting to escape, dragged her
back into his trailer and shot her again multiple times, and when the
deputies showed fired on them, hitting one deputy and a police dog, but
unfortunately for him there were two other deputies, one with a M16 who fired
at least 20 rounds, full auto (gold).
one boy who did a car-jacking, tried to rob a store at gun-point, found that
the car he'd car-jacked had a problem, swam a canal to get away from the
cops, car-jacked another car on the other side of the canal, attempted to run
away from the cops, including the Sheriff's helo, exchanged gunfire with
assorted cop cars and the helo (no, I'm not making this up, he fired at the
helo...) and finally had a shoot-out with a half-dozen deputies and local
cops (silver, though given the number of holes he got I'm sure he wishes it
was gold).
and one boy who was involved in a fight in a bar which started when two girls
lit into each other, escalated when two boys lit into each other, escalated
further when several deputies showed up to break up the fight and m'boy
pulled a pistol from his waist, whereupon several deputies emptied their
magazines (gold).
I wasn't aware that I'd moved to Arizona in the 1880s.
Bob Casanova
Jun 8, 2012, 2:24:59 PM6/8/12
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On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 06:40:44 -0400, the following appeared in
OK.
>In other local news, the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office has had three
>'deputy-involved' shootings in the last week:
>
>one boy who shot his girlfriend as she was attempting to escape, dragged her
>back into his trailer and shot her again multiple times, and when the
>deputies showed fired on them, hitting one deputy and a police dog, but
>unfortunately for him there were two other deputies, one with a M16 who fired
>at least 20 rounds, full auto (gold).
>
>one boy who did a car-jacking, tried to rob a store at gun-point, found that
>the car he'd car-jacked had a problem, swam a canal to get away from the
>cops, car-jacked another car on the other side of the canal, attempted to run
>away from the cops, including the Sheriff's helo, exchanged gunfire with
>assorted cop cars and the helo (no, I'm not making this up, he fired at the
>helo...) and finally had a shoot-out with a half-dozen deputies and local
>cops (silver, though given the number of holes he got I'm sure he wishes it
>was gold).
>
>and one boy who was involved in a fight in a bar which started when two girls
>lit into each other, escalated when two boys lit into each other, escalated
>further when several deputies showed up to break up the fight and m'boy
>pulled a pistol from his waist, whereupon several deputies emptied their
>magazines (gold).
>
>I wasn't aware that I'd moved to Arizona in the 1880s.
....or the 2010s...
....or Chicago, NYC, LA, et al in just about any decade.
>In other local news, the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office has had three
>'deputy-involved' shootings in the last week:
>
>one boy who shot his girlfriend as she was attempting to escape, dragged her
>back into his trailer and shot her again multiple times, and when the
>deputies showed fired on them, hitting one deputy and a police dog, but
>unfortunately for him there were two other deputies, one with a M16 who fired
>at least 20 rounds, full auto (gold).
>
>one boy who did a car-jacking, tried to rob a store at gun-point, found that
>the car he'd car-jacked had a problem, swam a canal to get away from the
>cops, car-jacked another car on the other side of the canal, attempted to run
>away from the cops, including the Sheriff's helo, exchanged gunfire with
>assorted cop cars and the helo (no, I'm not making this up, he fired at the
>helo...) and finally had a shoot-out with a half-dozen deputies and local
>cops (silver, though given the number of holes he got I'm sure he wishes it
>was gold).
>
>and one boy who was involved in a fight in a bar which started when two girls
>lit into each other, escalated when two boys lit into each other, escalated
>further when several deputies showed up to break up the fight and m'boy
>pulled a pistol from his waist, whereupon several deputies emptied their
>magazines (gold).
>
>I wasn't aware that I'd moved to Arizona in the 1880s.
....or Chicago, NYC, LA, et al in just about any decade.
Walter Bushell
Jun 8, 2012, 4:08:52 PM6/8/12
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In article <jqskr...@news4.newsguy.com>,
if he doesn't die there suddenly, probably. Sounds like he has to be
confined just from a viewpoint of public safety.
"J.J. O'Shea" <try.n...@but.see.sig> wrote:
> one boy who did a car-jacking, tried to rob a store at gun-point, found that
> the car he'd car-jacked had a problem, swam a canal to get away from the
> cops, car-jacked another car on the other side of the canal, attempted to run
> away from the cops, including the Sheriff's helo, exchanged gunfire with
> assorted cop cars and the helo (no, I'm not making this up, he fired at the
> helo...) and finally had a shoot-out with a half-dozen deputies and local
> cops (silver, though given the number of holes he got I'm sure he wishes it
> was gold).
Given that he is likely to spend a major portion of his life in jail,
> the car he'd car-jacked had a problem, swam a canal to get away from the
> cops, car-jacked another car on the other side of the canal, attempted to run
> away from the cops, including the Sheriff's helo, exchanged gunfire with
> assorted cop cars and the helo (no, I'm not making this up, he fired at the
> helo...) and finally had a shoot-out with a half-dozen deputies and local
> cops (silver, though given the number of holes he got I'm sure he wishes it
> was gold).
if he doesn't die there suddenly, probably. Sounds like he has to be
confined just from a viewpoint of public safety.
*Hemidactylus*
Jun 8, 2012, 4:20:59 PM6/8/12
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going on across the internets.
Walter Bushell
Jun 16, 2012, 8:32:42 AM6/16/12
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In article <jqlod...@news3.newsguy.com>,
And I bet the pair involved estates would not have had enough money to
pay for the damages. It seems they might have come through the
windshield triggering a multi car accident.
"J.J. O'Shea" <try.n...@but.see.sig> wrote:
> This morning I saw two not-particularly-bright in-duh-viduals literally
> trying to cross I-95. In rush hour. In Deepest Broward County, Florida, just
> north of the Dade county line. Five lanes in each direction. Fortunately for
> them a passing Sheriff's car stopped 'em before they could dent some innocent
> 3rd-party's front bumper. If 'breaking news' on one of the local radio
> stations can be believed, the two in-duh-viduals had a bet on...
Was alcohol involved?
> trying to cross I-95. In rush hour. In Deepest Broward County, Florida, just
> north of the Dade county line. Five lanes in each direction. Fortunately for
> them a passing Sheriff's car stopped 'em before they could dent some innocent
> 3rd-party's front bumper. If 'breaking news' on one of the local radio
> stations can be believed, the two in-duh-viduals had a bet on...
And I bet the pair involved estates would not have had enough money to
pay for the damages. It seems they might have come through the
windshield triggering a multi car accident.
J.J. O'Shea
Jun 17, 2012, 8:41:29 PM6/17/12
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 08:32:42 -0400, Walter Bushell wrote
(in article <proto-4BF5F5....@news.panix.com>):
> In article <jqlod...@news3.newsguy.com>,
> "J.J. O'Shea" <try.n...@but.see.sig> wrote:
>
>> This morning I saw two not-particularly-bright in-duh-viduals literally
>> trying to cross I-95. In rush hour. In Deepest Broward County, Florida,
>> just
>> north of the Dade county line. Five lanes in each direction. Fortunately
>> for
>> them a passing Sheriff's car stopped 'em before they could dent some
>> innocent
>> 3rd-party's front bumper. If 'breaking news' on one of the local radio
>> stations can be believed, the two in-duh-viduals had a bet on...
>
> Was alcohol involved?
The news didn't say, but it was Hallendale Beach, so it's highly probable.
>
> And I bet the pair involved estates would not have had enough money to
> pay for the damages.
Almost certainly they'd not have enough money between the two of them and
every member of their families to pay for the rubber lost off tires as cars
braked to avoid them.
> It seems they might have come through the
> windshield triggering a multi car accident.
>
>
We nearly had several collisions due to people maneuvering to try to avoid
hitting the idiots.
(in article <proto-4BF5F5....@news.panix.com>):
> In article <jqlod...@news3.newsguy.com>,
> "J.J. O'Shea" <try.n...@but.see.sig> wrote:
>
>> This morning I saw two not-particularly-bright in-duh-viduals literally
>> trying to cross I-95. In rush hour. In Deepest Broward County, Florida,
>> just
>> north of the Dade county line. Five lanes in each direction. Fortunately
>> for
>> them a passing Sheriff's car stopped 'em before they could dent some
>> innocent
>> 3rd-party's front bumper. If 'breaking news' on one of the local radio
>> stations can be believed, the two in-duh-viduals had a bet on...
>
> Was alcohol involved?
>
> And I bet the pair involved estates would not have had enough money to
> pay for the damages.
every member of their families to pay for the rubber lost off tires as cars
braked to avoid them.
> It seems they might have come through the
> windshield triggering a multi car accident.
>
>
hitting the idiots.
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