Social Creationism
Inez
the need to defend it? It seems as though they believe those that
accept evolution should defend Social Darwinism, so it would be fair.
Bobby D. Bryant
What are the tenants of social creationism? "The upper class and lower
class are separate 'kinds', and thus should not mingle"?
--
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
Glenn
"Inez" <savagem...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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A.Carlson
"Thou shalt have no other gods before me", for starters. The god of
Abraham created this world and you should damn well give him full
credit or else his wrath will be brought down upon you through us, his
vessels.
As Katrina and the World Trade Center disasters have shown,
particularly in these latter days, God's wrath is great! It is so
great that even those among us true believers who failed to rein in
our fellow man and steer them away from evil paid the ultimate price
for our failures. We will redouble our effort and do everything
within our powers to ensure this doesn't happen again. This has
become personal!
"Thou shalt not lie" We will not allow you to poison *our*
children's minds and steer them away from the one true god through
spreading of your filthy atheistic lies. Because we have the true
knowledge, we are smarter than you and, in the spirit of sharing the
good news, will not let you forget it.
"Thou shalt love thy neighbor" We love you so much we want to ensure
that your souls are saved from eternal damnation. Deep down, we love
even the god-hating atheistic evolutionists - To save your souls,
tough love is clearly called for.
We are not only better than you, we are more pious than you as well.
And more humble before god!
And last but not least, Jesus loves you, he really truly does :)
Geoff
news:drlbjn$fgm$1...@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu...
C'mon...look at Paris Hilton and tell me that there isn't some higher power.
How else can explain such a combination of extreme wealth and fatuous
manner.
Lee Oswald Ving
$Ek4...@news.uswest.net:
You're one of the best people to answer this, Glenn, so why don't you?
Josh M.
"Glenn" <glenns...@SPAMqwest.net> wrote in message
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That's redundant.
Ken Shackleton
How about this.....rich guys get to shag hot chicks....and hence have
hot rich daughters.
Glenn
"Lee Oswald Ving" <leeo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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don't you first tell us why I am.
zawa...@yahoo.com
Stile4aly
Who then shag mediocre looking guys on video which gets distributed all
over the internet.
The circle of life is complete.
noctiluca
In this case, at least, it strikes me that the latter is explained by
the former, no need for ancillary mechanisms.
Robert
Inez
station for a reason, and therefore the rich are superior to the poor
in God's eyes. Social mobility is the work of Satan."
Inez
What a clumsy dodge that was. Do you truly have no idea? Why does it
matter in any event? It is almost as if you don't want to have a
discussion on this topic.
Glenn
Deadrat
"Bobby D. Bryant" <bdbr...@mail.utexas.edu> wrote in message
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Just ask yourself how much rent these tenants are paying.
Deadrat
Inez
You're so cute! You could make good money starring at a petting zoo.
Wombat
Yes, like the dodge you did when I asked you why you said I had lied.
Wombat
Glenn
"Wombat" <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote in message
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VoiceOfReason
- Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression - To worship the way we TELL
you, and the freedom to express your appreciation (or else).
- Right to Bear Arms - The more, the better.
- Search and Seizure - For your protection, search and seizure will be
unrestricted, including all items of a potentially subversive nature.
- Trial and Punishment - No person shall be held without due cause,
unless in the interests of the State.
- Women's Sufferage - Don't worry sweetie, we'll make all the tough
decisions for you.
Wombat
Glenn wrote:
Lie 2. If you had more than the intellectual capacity of a fontema you
would know you said that to Inez.
Now answer my point, or I will conclude you have no sense of honour,
and are a whitened scepulchre to boot.
Wombat
Glenn
you "conclude".
Lee Oswald Ving
$Ek4...@news.uswest.net:
I do?
What makes you say that?
Josh M.
"Josh M." <n...@thanks.com> wrote in message
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Oops. That makes no sense at all. I misread it. One of those days...
Frank J
I was about to disagree, but the way you put it, you might just have a
point, whether or not creationism leads to "Social Creationism."
Social Darwinism, is associated with capitalism. I recall "figuring
that out" years ago, and like many people, then wondered why
conservatives, who like capitalism, would have a problem with
evolution. Of course, Social Darwinism does not follow from Darwinian
evolution, so it's entirely possible that one can like Social Darwinism
and dislike evolution. Nevertheless, anti-evolutionists rarely miss an
opporunity to link evolution to Social Darwinism and criticize both.
But it is not capitalism that discourages social mobility - indeed it
may be the only system that allows it - but extreme authoritarian
politics. The most staunch defenders of anti-evolution pseudoscience
are not typical conservatives, but authoritarians. They are not as
interested in "capitalism over socialism" as they are with their own
brand of social activism. And part of that is to keep "the masses"
misinformed about science. Which keeps the masses "down."
Lt. Kizhe Catson
When I first got spam for "Paris Hilton Sex Party" video, I assumed it
was shot at an orgy in a French hotel. It was quite a while before I
discovered it was a person's name. Not that I actually give a damn.
-- Kizhe
Mark Isaak
(Bobby D. Bryant) wrote:
The basic tenet of Social Creationism is that laws must be based on
what the Bible says, but only as interpreted by creationist preachers.
Some of the specific tenets of Social Creationism follow. I wish I
could say this was a parody, but it is all too real.
- Abortion is murder, so anyone encouraging it should be killed.
- Since homosexuality is a perversion, one may treat "those people" as
perversely as you want without being immoral.
- Slavery is good.
- Abortion is murder, so anyone encouraging it should be killed.
- Unruly children should be beaten.
- Abortion is murder, so anyone encouraging it should be killed.
- It is good to have freedom of religion, but not freedom of
anti-religion, and any religion but fundamentalist Christianity is
anti-religion.
- Women were made to have babies.
- Abortion is murder, so anyone encouraging it should be killed.
- The government should have absolute power to enforce all of the
above, by whatever means necessary.
- Televangelists are exempt from all laws and moral rules, so long as
they apologize after the fact.
--
Mark Isaak eciton (at) earthlink (dot) net
"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of
the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are
being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and
exposing the country to danger." -- Hermann Goering
Shane
Save yourself some time, conclude it anyway.
Dan Luke
"Glenn" wrote:
>> Now answer my point, or I will conclude you have no sense of honour,
>> and are a whitened scepulchre to boot.
>>
> You're beginning to sound like a loon. I could give a rat's ass what
> you "conclude".
That's "..._couldn't_ give a rat's ass...," Chief. Try to make your
idiomatic expressions logical, at least, even if you can't manage it
with anything else.
Great weaseling in this thread, BTW. You may get tenure yet.
--
Dan
"Shut up! Shut up!"
- Bill O'Reilly
Timberwoof
"Stile4aly" <stil...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Once the videos get distributed, the circle jerk of life is completed.
--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
Timberwoof
bdbr...@mail.utexas.edu (Bobby D. Bryant) wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, "Inez" <savagem...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If I make up a new term; "Social Creationism," will creationists feel
> > the need to defend it? It seems as though they believe those that
> > accept evolution should defend Social Darwinism, so it would be fair.
>
> What are the tenants of social creationism? "The upper class and lower
> class are separate 'kinds', and thus should not mingle"?
The tenets of Social Creationism are probably the same as Calvinism. The
tenants, however, were evicted last week.
Timberwoof
"A.Carlson" <amc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:33:12 +0000 (UTC), bdbr...@mail.utexas.edu
> (Bobby D. Bryant) wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, "Inez" <savagem...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If I make up a new term; "Social Creationism," will creationists feel
> >> the need to defend it? It seems as though they believe those that
> >> accept evolution should defend Social Darwinism, so it would be fair.
> >
> >What are the tenants of social creationism? "The upper class and lower
> >class are separate 'kinds', and thus should not mingle"?
>
> "Thou shalt have no other gods before me", for starters. The god of
> Abraham created this world and you should damn well give him full
> credit or else his wrath will be brought down upon you through us, his
> vessels.
No, he didn't. When Jehova said that, He knew there were many other Gods, one or
more of whom were responsible for making the Earth. There were three kinds of
Gods: gods of tribes, of which Jehovah was one; gods of natural phenomena; and
god of everything. What Jehova was saying was that his people should worship him
and not any other tribal gods. That was fine, but when He started denying that
other Gods even existed, that went over the line.
> As Katrina and the World Trade Center disasters have shown,
> particularly in these latter days, God's wrath is great! It is so
> great that even those among us true believers who failed to rein in
> our fellow man and steer them away from evil paid the ultimate price
> for our failures. We will redouble our effort and do everything
> within our powers to ensure this doesn't happen again. This has
> become personal!
Did you agree with Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson when they blamed the attack
on the World Trade Center on gays, lesbians, and neo-pagans?
> "Thou shalt not lie" We will not allow you to poison *our*
> children's minds and steer them away from the one true god through
> spreading of your filthy atheistic lies. Because we have the true
> knowledge, we are smarter than you and, in the spirit of sharing the
> good news, will not let you forget it.
>
> "Thou shalt love thy neighbor" We love you so much we want to ensure
> that your souls are saved from eternal damnation. Deep down, we love
> even the god-hating atheistic evolutionists - To save your souls,
> tough love is clearly called for.
Yes, and be sure to reinstitute the Medieval tradition of converting pagans and
then, before they could get into any more trouble, killing them.
> We are not only better than you, we are more pious than you as well.
> And more humble before god!
>
> And last but not least, Jesus loves you, he really truly does :)
I really liked his performance in "The Last Temptation of Christ."
Timberwoof
"Inez" <savagem...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Like I said, Calvinism.
Timberwoof
Mark Isaak <eci...@earthlinkNOSPAM.next> wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:33:12 +0000 (UTC), bdbr...@mail.utexas.edu
> (Bobby D. Bryant) wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, "Inez" <savagem...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If I make up a new term; "Social Creationism," will creationists feel
> >> the need to defend it? It seems as though they believe those that
> >> accept evolution should defend Social Darwinism, so it would be fair.
> >
> >What are the tenants of social creationism? "The upper class and lower
> >class are separate 'kinds', and thus should not mingle"?
>
> The basic tenet of Social Creationism is that laws must be based on
> what the Bible says, but only as interpreted by creationist preachers.
>
> Some of the specific tenets of Social Creationism follow. I wish I
> could say this was a parody, but it is all too real.
>
> - Abortion is murder, so anyone encouraging it should be killed.
>
> - Since homosexuality is a perversion, one may treat "those people" as
> perversely as you want without being immoral.
And anyone who asks "What did Jesus say about homosexuality? Š No, no, what did
*Jesus* say? Š What do you mean, 'Well, he should have!'? Isn't that blasphemy?"
is obviously a blaspheming homosexual and should be killed long before he gets
to the first "Jesus."
> - Slavery is good.
... as long as you only enslave Mexicans or Canadians (if you're a Federalist)
or people from another State (if you're not).
> - Abortion is murder, so anyone encouraging it should be killed.
>
> - Unruly children should be beaten.
>
> - Abortion is murder, so anyone encouraging it should be killed.
>
> - It is good to have freedom of religion, but not freedom of
> anti-religion, and any religion but fundamentalist Christianity is
> anti-religion.
>
> - Women were made to have babies.
>
> - Abortion is murder, so anyone encouraging it should be killed.
>
> - The government should have absolute power to enforce all of the
> above, by whatever means necessary.
>
> - Televangelists are exempt from all laws and moral rules, so long as
> they apologize after the fact.
Oh! You forgot to add, "- Abortion is murder, so anyone encouraging it should be
killed."
--
Wombat
Glenn wrote:
I don't give a rat's arse what you think I conclude. Several months
ago, in a hissy fit, and without provocation, you called me a liar.
Prove it, creep. You, with your ludicrous posting record, are the
loon.
Wombat
A.Carlson
<timbe...@stimpberawoofm.com> wrote:
>In article <gjdst1tlqqjtbl5d3...@4ax.com>,
> "A.Carlson" <amc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:33:12 +0000 (UTC), bdbr...@mail.utexas.edu
>> (Bobby D. Bryant) wrote:
>>
>> >On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, "Inez" <savagem...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> If I make up a new term; "Social Creationism," will creationists feel
>> >> the need to defend it? It seems as though they believe those that
>> >> accept evolution should defend Social Darwinism, so it would be fair.
>> >
>> >What are the tenants of social creationism? "The upper class and lower
>> >class are separate 'kinds', and thus should not mingle"?
>>
>> "Thou shalt have no other gods before me", for starters. The god of
>> Abraham created this world and you should damn well give him full
>> credit or else his wrath will be brought down upon you through us, his
>> vessels.
>
>No, he didn't. When Jehova said that, He knew there were many other Gods, one or
>more of whom were responsible for making the Earth. There were three kinds of
>Gods: gods of tribes, of which Jehovah was one; gods of natural phenomena; and
>god of everything. What Jehova was saying was that his people should worship him
>and not any other tribal gods. That was fine, but when He started denying that
>other Gods even existed, that went over the line.
And it is shown yet again that you can't parody a creationist ;)
By the way, the latest issue of the magazine Free Enquiry has a nice
article about how more conservative publishers of the Bible have
'reinterpreted' certain passages to hide the earlier indications of
polytheism reflected in the Bible.
>> As Katrina and the World Trade Center disasters have shown,
>> particularly in these latter days, God's wrath is great! It is so
>> great that even those among us true believers who failed to rein in
>> our fellow man and steer them away from evil paid the ultimate price
>> for our failures. We will redouble our effort and do everything
>> within our powers to ensure this doesn't happen again. This has
>> become personal!
>
>Did you agree with Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson when they blamed the attack
>on the World Trade Center on gays, lesbians, and neo-pagans?
Hardly! Although he is a good source for comical material.
>> "Thou shalt not lie" We will not allow you to poison *our*
>> children's minds and steer them away from the one true god through
>> spreading of your filthy atheistic lies. Because we have the true
>> knowledge, we are smarter than you and, in the spirit of sharing the
>> good news, will not let you forget it.
>>
>> "Thou shalt love thy neighbor" We love you so much we want to ensure
>> that your souls are saved from eternal damnation. Deep down, we love
>> even the god-hating atheistic evolutionists - To save your souls,
>> tough love is clearly called for.
>
>Yes, and be sure to reinstitute the Medieval tradition of converting pagans and
>then, before they could get into any more trouble, killing them.
I think trying to brainwash the young through various youth ministries
while protecting them from evil influences or becoming 'intellectuals'
is their main objectives. Imagine that, a movement that actually
strives to make 'intellectual' a dirty word.
>> We are not only better than you, we are more pious than you as well.
>> And more humble before god!
>>
>> And last but not least, Jesus loves you, he really truly does :)
>
>I really liked his performance in "The Last Temptation of Christ."
Of course, the ending was predictable.
Dan Luke
"A.Carlson" wrote:
[snip]
>>Yes, and be sure to reinstitute the Medieval tradition of converting pagans
>>and
>>then, before they could get into any more trouble, killing them.
>
> I think trying to brainwash the young through various youth ministries
> while protecting them from evil influences or becoming 'intellectuals'
> is their main objectives. Imagine that, a movement that actually
> strives to make 'intellectual' a dirty word.
Just followin' the Good Book. 1st Corinthians 1 provides plenty of
scriptural justification for brainwashing and anti-intellectualism:
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/1cor/1.html
[snip]
--
Dan
"So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the
Gospels in praise of intelligence." --Bertrand Russell
rthe...@hotmail.com
Mark Isaak wrote:
> - Unruly children should be beaten.
This must be Modern Social Creationism. In standard Social Creationism,
unruly children should be executed by lapidation.
Roy