Bounces off me and sticks to you hoo!
>
>I am rubber, you are glue.
>
>Bounces off me and sticks to you hoo!
How old are you?
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR-ixnPtxU8
Oh, OK; YouTube is for early adolescents who enjoy computer
viruses, so you're what, 13 or so? Thanks for confirming.
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
Your point?
Please, bounce off into the sunset.
Chris
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR-ixnPtxU8
Point? Sheldon?
Not bloody likely.
--
Dan
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR-ixnPtxU8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abwfXIW3pM0&feature=related
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_(band)
Genesis are an English rock band that formed in 1967. The band
currently comprises the longest-tenured members Phil Collins (lead
vocals and drums), Mike Rutherford (guitar and bass guitar), and Tony
Banks (keyboards). Peter Gabriel, Anthony Phillips and Steve Hackett
also played major roles in the band in its early days. Genesis are
among the top 30 highest-selling recording artists of all time with
approximately 150 million albums sold worldwide,[1] including 21.5
million albums sold in the United States.
Genesis began as a 1960s pop band playing moody, simple keyboard-
driven melodies. During the 1970s, they evolved into a progressive
rock band, incorporating complex song structures and elaborate
instrumentation, while their concerts became theatrical experiences
with innovative stage design, pyrotechnics, elaborate costumes and
onstage stories. This second phase was characterised by lengthy
performances such as the 23 minute "Supper's Ready" and The Lamb Lies
Down on Broadway, the 1974 concept album. In the 1980s, the band
produced accessible pop music based on melodic hooks; this change of
direction gave them their first number one album in the United
Kingdom, Duke, and their only number one single in the United States,
"Invisible Touch".
Genesis has changed personnel several times. Stage fright forced
founding member Anthony Phillips to leave the band in 1970. In 1975,
Collins, then the band's drummer, replaced Gabriel as lead singer
after a lengthy search for a replacement. To facilitate Collins's move
to lead vocals during concerts, Bill Bruford, and later Chester
Thompson, played drums for the band, with Collins joining in briefly
during lengthy instrumental passages. After Phil Collins left the band
in 1996, Genesis recruited Ray Wilson (formerly of Stiltskin), who
appeared on the 1997 album Calling All Stations. As a result of the
commercial failure of Calling All Stations, the band announced an
indefinite hiatus. However, in 2007, Banks, Collins and Rutherford
reunited for a 20-city tour of Europe and North America, which
included a free concert at Rome's Circo Massimo in front of 500,000
fans. Genesis will be among 5 performers inducted into the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame in 2010.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_(band)#1967.E2.80.931970:_The_beginning
Genesis was formed in 1967 when Peter Gabriel and Tony Banks were
students at Charterhouse School in Godalming. Formed out of school
bands Garden Wall and The Anon,[2] Genesis's original line-up
consisted of Peter Gabriel (vocals), Anthony Phillips (guitar), Tony
Banks (keyboards), Mike Rutherford (bass & guitar) and Chris Stewart
(drums).[3] The group originally formed as a songwriting partnership
with no intention of performing, but decided to start playing their
own music when they were unable to find anyone else willing to record
it.
Charterhouse School alumnus Jonathan King hosted a concert at
Charterhouse in 1968 while the band was still in school. Following the
concert, Gabriel gave King a tape of songs the band had recorded and
King thought enough of them to sign them to a recording contract. King
was a songwriter and record producer who had a hit single at the time,
"Everyone's Gone to the Moon". King named the band Genesis (after
previously suggesting the name Gabriel's Angels[4]), recalling that he
had "thought it was a good name... it suggested the beginning of a new
sound and a new feeling."
The resulting album, From Genesis to Revelation, was released on Decca
Records in March 1969. During the sessions, Stewart was replaced by
John Silver on drums. The band recorded a series of songs influenced
by the light pop style of the Bee Gees, one of King's favourite bands
at the time. King assembled the tracks as a concept album, and added
string arrangements during the production. Their first single, "The
Silent Sun", was released in February 1968. The album sold poorly but
the band, on advice from King, decided to pursue a career in music.[5]
King holds the rights to the songs on the From Genesis to Revelation
album and has re-released it many times under a variety of names,
including In the Beginning, Where the Sour Turns to Sweet, Rock Roots:
Genesis, ...And the Word Was and, most recently, The Genesis of
Genesis.
Genesis's highest-selling album, Invisible Touch, was released in
1986, at the height of Collins's popularity as a solo artist. The
album yielded five U.S. Top 5 singles: "Throwing It All Away", "In Too
Deep", "Tonight, Tonight, Tonight", "Land of Confusion" and "Invisible
Touch". The title track reached #1 in the United States; the only
Genesis song to do so; however, it stalled at #15 in the UK. In 1987,
Genesis became the first band to sell out four consecutive nights at
Wembley Stadium.[30] Genesis were the first band to use Vari*Lite
technology,[31] and the Prism sound system, all of which are now
standard features of arena rock concerts.
Earlier that year, Collins viewed a spoof of himself on Spitting
Image, a satirical British television show which used puppets to
lampoon politicians and celebrities. He was impressed with the
representation, and commissioned the show's creators, Peter Fluck and
Roger Law, to work on the video for the "Land of Confusion" single.
The video was formed as an ironic commentary on the Cold War, and
played on the perception that the coalition's leaders were "trigger
happy" with the nuclear "button". In addition to puppet
representations of Banks, Collins and Rutherford, the video showed
Ronald Reagan dressed as Superman. It was nominated for the MTV Video
of the Year, losing to Gabriel's "Sledgehammer".
"Tonight, Tonight, Tonight" was used in a Michelob commercial�as was
Collins's "In the Air Tonight"�while "In Too Deep" was featured in the
film Mona Lisa.[24] The instrumental "The Brazilian", appeared in the
animated movie When the Wind Blows, alongside a score written by Roger
Waters. At the 1988 Prince's Trust concert held in the Royal Albert
Hall, Collins and Gabriel performed together for the first time since
1982. Collins was drummer for the house band, while Gabriel performed
his hit single "Sledgehammer". As of September 2007, the two Genesis
frontmen have not publicly played together since, although they did
play together at Gabriel's wedding in 2002.
After a hiatus of five years, Genesis reconvened for the 1991 release
of We Can't Dance, which was to be Collins's last studio album with
the group. The album features the hit singles "Jesus He Knows Me", "I
Can't Dance", "No Son of Mine", "Hold on My Heart", "Tell Me Why" and
"Never a Time" (a U.S. release only), as well as lengthy pieces such
as "Driving the Last Spike" and "Fading Lights". The album which was
produced by Nick Davis includes "Since I Lost You", which Collins
wrote in memory of Eric Clapton's son Conor.
Collins left the band in March 1996. He reasoned that he "felt it time
to change direction in my musical life. For me now, it will be music
for movies, some jazz projects, and of course my solo career. I wish
the guys in Genesis all the very best in their future. We remain the
best of friends."
Did you have any point or are you just using up bandwidth for the
sheer thrill of it?
John Symon Asher "Jack" Bruce (born 14 May 1943) is a Scottish musician,
composer and singer. He is best-known as a bass guitarist, harmonica
player and pianist, and was most famous as vocalist and the bass
guitarist for the 1960s rock band Cream. He lives in Suffolk, England[1].
Hailed as one of the greatest and most skilled bassists of all time, his
improvisational skill and utterly unique, free-spirited approach to
composition and performance would forever change electric music. His
pioneering, full-toned, free-wheeling playing on the electric bass
revolutionised the way the instrument is used and influenced the playing
of countless bassists today, including Sting, Mark King and Jaco Pastorius.
Jack Bruce was born on May 14, 1943 in Bishopbriggs, East
Dunbartonshire, Scotland, to musical parents who moved around a lot,
resulting in the young Bruce attending 14 different schools, ending up
at Bellahouston Academy. Bruce took up jazz bass in his teens, and won a
scholarship studying cello and composition at the Royal Scottish Academy
of Music and Drama, while playing in a dance band to support himself.
The Academy disapproved of its students playing jazz, however. "They
found out," Bruce told Musician correspondent Jim Macnie, "and said 'you
either stop, or leave college.' So I left college."
After leaving he toured Italy playing double bass with the Murray
Campbell Big Band.[2] In 1962, Jack Bruce became a member of the
London-based band Blues Incorporated,[3] led by Alexis Korner, in which
he played the double bass. The band also included organist Graham Bond,
saxophonist Dick Heckstall-Smith and drummer Ginger Baker. In 1963, the
group broke up and Bruce went on to form the Graham Bond Quartet with
Bond, Baker, and guitarist John McLaughlin.They played an eclectic range
of music genres, including, bebop, blues and rhythm and blues. As a
result of session work at this time, Bruce switched from double bass to
electric bass. The move to electric bass happened as McLaughlin was
dropped from the band; he was replaced by Heckstall-Smith on sax and the
band pursued a more concise R&B sound and changed its name to the Graham
Bond Organisation. They released two studio albums and several singles,
but were not commercially successful. They did, however, influence a
number of other musicians, such as Keith Emerson, Jon Lord and Bill Bruford.
During the time Bruce and Baker played with the Graham Bond
Organisation, they were known for their hostility towards each other.
There were numerous stories of the two sabotaging each other's equipment
and fighting on stage. Hostility grew so much between the two that Bruce
was forced to leave the group in August 1965.[4]
After he left, Bruce recorded a solo single, "I'm Gettin Tired", for
Polydor Records. Although this single was unsuccessful, it is considered
a collectible. He soon joined John Mayall and his John Mayall & the
Bluesbreakers group, which featured guitarist Eric Clapton. Although his
stay was brief, it did sow the seeds, especially in the improvised live
performances, of his future musical direction. The Universal Deluxe 2CD
set Bluesbreakers with Eric Clapton contains all the known tracks
featuring Jack Bruce.
After the Bluesbreakers, Bruce tasted his first commercial success as a
member of Manfred Mann in 1966, including a No.1 single, "Pretty
Flamingo". When interviewed on the episode of the VH1 show, Classic
Albums, which featured Disraeli Gears, Mayall stated that Bruce had been
lured away by the lucrative commercial success of Manfred Mann; Mann
mused about having had someone of such talent playing bass for the
group, and reminisced that Bruce would attend the recording sessions
without having rehearsed but would play the songs straight through
without error, opining that perhaps the chord changes seemed so obvious
to Bruce.[5] The complete Manfred Mann recordings with Jack Bruce are
available on the 4-CD EMI box set Down the Road Apiece.
Whilst with Manfred Mann, Bruce again collaborated with Eric Clapton for
3 tracks on the Elektra sampler album What's Shakin'. Two of the songs,
"Crossroads" and "Steppin' Out", were to become staples in the live set
of his next band.
In July 1966 Bruce moved on to his most famous role as bass player, main
songwriter and lead vocalist with Ginger Baker and Eric Clapton in the
power trio Cream, considered the first supergroup.
While with Cream, Bruce played a Gibson EB-3 electric bass and became
the most famous bassist in rock, winning musicians polls and influencing
the next generation of bassists such as Sting, Geddy Lee and Jeff
Berlin.[6] He also wrote most of Cream's original material, with
lyricist Pete Brown, including the hits, "Sunshine of Your Love", "White
Room", and "I Feel Free".
By 1968, Cream were hugely successful; they grossed more than the next
top six live acts of the day added together (including Jimi Hendrix and
The Doors). They topped album charts all over the world, and received
the first platinum discs for record sales, but the old enmity of Bruce
and Baker resurfaced in 1968, and after a final tour, Cream broke up.
Collaborative efforts with musicians, in many genres - heavy rock, jazz,
blues, fusion, avant-garde, world music, and R&B - has been a continuing
theme of Bruce's career. Alongside these he has produced a long line of
solo albums. In contrast to his collaborative works the solo albums
usually maintain a common theme: melodic songs with a complex musical
structure and lyrics by Pete Brown, based around a core band. This
structure is loosened on his live solo albums and DVDs, where extended
improvisations similar to those employed by Cream in live performance
are sometimes still used.
In August 1968, before Cream split, Bruce recorded an acoustic free jazz
album with John McLaughlin, Dick Heckstall-Smith and Jon Hiseman. This
was issued in 1970 as Bruce's second solo album, Things We Like. The
album was a precursor to the jazz fusion boom in the early 1970s, and
more recently has been sampled by many hip hop artists.
Bruce's first solo release, Songs for a Tailor, was issued in September
1969, and also featured Heckstall-Smith and Hiseman. It was a worldwide
hit, but, after a brief supporting tour backed by Larry Coryell and
Mitch Mitchell, Bruce joined the jazz fusion group Lifetime. With
drummer Tony Williams, guitarist John McLaughlin and organist Larry
Young, the group recorded two albums; Bruce joined on the second album,
Turn It Over. However, Lifetime did not receive much critical or
commercial acclaim at the time, and the band broke up in 1971. Bruce
then recorded his third solo album Harmony Row, but this was not as
commercially successful as Songs for a Tailor.
In 1972, Bruce formed a blues rock power trio, West, Bruce and Laing.
Besides Bruce, the group included singer/guitarist Leslie West and
drummer Corky Laing, both formerly of the Cream-influnced American band
Mountain. West, Bruce and Laing produced two studio albums, Why Dontcha
and Whatever Turns You On, and one live album, Live 'n' Kickin'. The
band broke up shortly before Live 'n' Kickin's release in early 1974,
and Bruce released his fourth solo album Out of the Storm later that year.
A 1975 tour was lined up to support the Out of the Storm album with a
band featuring former Rolling Stones guitarist Mick Taylor and jazz
keyboard player Carla Bley, with whom he had collaborated in 1971 on
Escalator over the Hill. The tour was documented on Live '75 (at the
Manchester Free Trade Hall)[7], but it ended with Taylor's departure,
and no studio album was completed.
In 1977, Bruce formed a new band with drummer Simon Phillips and
keyboardist Tony Hymas. The group recorded an album, called How's
Tricks. A world tour followed, but the album was a commercial failure.
The follow-up album Jet Set Jewel was put on hold when Bruce was dropped
by his record label, RSO. In 1979, Bruce toured with members from the
Mahavishnu Orchestra, reuniting him with John McLaughlin, and
introducing him to drummer Billy Cobham. A 3-CD collection of his 1970s
BBC recordings called Spirit was released in 2008.
By 1979, Bruce's drug habit had reached such a level that he had lost a
lot of his money; in that year he married his second wife, Margrit
Seyffer. She began to organise the buisness aspects of his career, and
Bruce contributed as a session musician to recordings by Cozy Powell,
Gary Moore and Jon Anderson to raise money. By 1980 his career was back
on track with his new band, consisting of drummer Billy Cobham,
guitarist Clem Clempson, and keyboardist David Sancious. After releasing
an album, I've Always Wanted to Do This at the end of 1980, they
undertook a long tour to support the record, but it was not a commercial
success and they disbanded. In the early 1980s, he also joined up to
play with friends from the Alexis Korner days in Rocket 88, the
back-to-the-roots band that Ian Stewart had arranged, and Bruce appears
on the album of the same name, recorded live in Germany in 1980. They
also recorded a "live in the studio" album calJeton.led Blues & Boogie
Explosion for the German audiophile record label, Jeton.
In 1981, Bruce collaborated with guitarist Robin Trower and released two
power trio albums, BLT and Truce, the first of which was a minor hit in
the United States. By 1983 Bruce was out of contract with the major
record companies, and he released his next solo album Automatic only on
a minor German label, Intercord INT 145.069. A European tour followed to
promote the album enlisting Bruce Gary from The Knack (who had also
played in Jack Bruce's 1975 band) on drums and Sancious from his 1980
release on guitar and keyboards.
In 1983 Bruce began working with the Latin/world music producer Kip
Hanrahan, and released the collaborative albums Desire Develops an Edge,
Vertical's Currency, A Few short Notes from the End Run, Exotica and All
Roads are made of the Flesh. They were all critically successful, and in
2001 he went onto form his own band using Hanrahan's famous Cuban rhythm
section. Other than his partnership with lyricist Pete Brown, the
musical relationship with Hanrahan has been the most consistent and
long-lasting of his career.
In 1986 he re-recorded his famous Cream song "I Feel Free" and released
it as a single to support an advertising campaign for the Renault 21
motor car.
A solo album, Somethin' Else, recorded in Germany between 1986 and 1992,
saw him reunited with Eric Clapton and received, belated, but widespread
critical acclaim.
His German TV concerts of this 1980s period have been collected on a
two-DVD set, Live at RockPalast.
In 1989, Bruce began recording material with Ginger Baker and released
another solo album, A Question of Time. Baker and Bruce toured the
United States at turn of the decade. Bruce played at the Montreaux Jazz
Festival in 1991, and invited Irish blues rock performer, Rory Gallagher
(who had a long-standing relationship with Bruce, having supported
Cream's farewell concert, in the band, Taste in 1968) to perform a song
with Bruce onstage. In 1993 Baker appeared, along with a host of former
Bruce band colleagues, at a special concert in Cologne to celebrate
Bruce's 50th birthday. A special guest was another Irish blues-rock
guitarist Gary Moore. The concert recordings with Moore were released as
the live double album Cities of the Heart. On the back of this
successful gig Bruce, Baker and Moore formed the power trio BBM, and
their subsequent album Around the Next Dream was a top ten hit in the
UK. However, the old Bruce/Baker arguments arose again and the
subsequent tour was cut short and the band broke up. A low-key solo
album, Monkjack, followed in 1995, featuring Bruce on piano and vocals
accompanied by Funkadelic organist Bernie Worrell.
Bruce then began work producing and arranging the soundtrack to the
independently produced Scottish film The Slab Boys with Lulu, Edwyn
Collins, Eddi Reader and The Proclaimers. The soundtrack album appeared
in 1997. In 1998 he returned to touring as a member of Ringo Starr's All
Starr Band which also featured Peter Frampton on guitar. At the gig in
Denver, Colorado the band was joined on stage by Ginger Baker, and
Bruce, Baker and Frampton played a short set of Cream classics.
[edit] The solo years 2000s
Bruce playing a fretless Warwick Thumb bass at the Jazzfestival
Frankfurt, Germany 28 October, 2006 Courtesy: Christian Sahm
In 2001 Bruce reappeared with his most successful band of recent times
featuring Bernie Worrell, Vernon Reid of Living Colour on guitar and Kip
Hanrahan's three-piece Latin rhythm section. Hanrahan also produced the
accompanying album Shadows in the Air, which included a reunion with
Eric Clapton on a new version of "Sunshine of Your Love". The band
released another Hanrahan produced studio album, More Jack than God, in
2003, and a live DVD, Live at Canterbury Fayre.
Bruce had suffered a period of declining health, and in the summer of
2003 was diagnosed with liver cancer. In September 2003, he underwent a
liver transplant, which was almost fatal, as his body initially rejected
the new organ.[8] He has since recovered, and in 2004 reappeared to
perform "Sunshine of Your Love" at a Rock Legends concert in Germany
organised by the singer Mandoki.
In May, 2005, he reunited with former Cream bandmates Eric Clapton and
Ginger Baker for a series of well-received concerts at London's Royal
Albert Hall,[9] released as the album Royal Albert Hall London May
2�3�5�6 2005, and New York's Madison Square Garden.
In between the UK and U.S. Cream dates he also played live with Gary
Moore and drummer Gary Husband at the Dick Heckstall-Smith tribute
concert in London.
Subsequent concert appearances were sparse due to recovery after the
transplant, but in 2006 Bruce returned to the live arena with a show of
Cream and solo classics performed with the German HR (Hessischer
Rundfunk) Big Band. This was released on CD in Germany in 2007 to
critical acclaim. 2007 also saw him make a brief concert appearance in
opening a new rehearsal hall named in his honour at the Royal Scottish
Academy of Music and Drama, Glasgow with Clem Clempson, keyboard player
Ronnie Leahy and Husband.
In 2008, Bruce collaborated again with guitarist Robin Trower on the
album Seven Moons. It also featured Husband. Unusually the lyrics were
not written by Pete Brown or Trower's regular lyricist Keith Reid, but
by the band.
In May 2008 Bruce was 65 years old and to commemorate this milestone two
box sets of recordings were released. Spirit is a 3CD collection of
Bruce's BBC recordings from the 1970s. Can You Follow? is a 6CD
retrospective anthology released by the Esoteric label in the UK. This
anthology is a wide ranging collection covering his music from 1963 to
2003 and, aside from his work with Kip Hanrahan, is a comprehensive
overview of his career.
Improved health led to Bruce playing a series of live outdoor concerts
across the USA starting in July 2008 as part of the Hippiefest Tour. He
was supported by members of the late Who bassist's The John Entwistle
Band, and headlined at a tribute concert to the bassist.
In November 2008 he recorded a concert in Birmingham, England for Radio
Broadcast with the BBC Big Band, where he again played the Big Band
arrangements of his classic songs. In December he was reunited with
Ginger Baker at the drummer's Lifetime Achievement Award concert in
London. They played jazz classics with saxophonist Courtney Pine and for
the first time in 40 years played the Graham Bond/Cream classic
Traintime. The same month Jack, with guitarist Vernon Reid, played a
series of Blue Note Club tribute concerts to The Tony Williams Lifetime
in Japan. These shows were broadcast on television in Japan.
In spring 2009 a series of concerts were performed with Trower and
Husband in Europe. Proposed dates in the USA in April were cancelled due
to a further bout of ill health. Bruce recovered and the band played
summer concerts in Italy, Norway and the UK during 2009. This promoted
the release of the Seven Moons Live CD & DVD, recorded in February
during the European leg of the tour in Nijmegen, Netherlands.
During the Scottish dates of the 2009 tour Bruce was presented with an
Honorary Doctorate of Letters from Glasgow Caledonian University for
services to the culture of Glasgow and music in general.
August 2009 saw the release on compact disc of the 1983 Jack Bruce solo
album, Automatic. This release means all of his solo albums from the
1969 debut Songs for a Tailor onwards are now officially available in
the CD format for the first time. All of the discs up to and including
How's Tricks have previously unreleased material added.
Composing Himself: Jack Bruce The Authorised Biography by Harry Shapiro
has been scheduled for release by Jawbone Press in February 2010.
Shapiro has previously written respected biographies of Bruce
collaborators Alexis Korner, Graham Bond and Eric Clapton.
Fascinating.
Now lock golaszewski up, he has wasted everyone's time.
You are just mad because I didn't single out the relevant portions to
the case.
And stop quoting the entire thing over and over to TO, troll.
When I was 15 I saw Cream play in Oakland.
Mitchell Coffey
And now that one of yours has replied with that tidbit, will
golaszewski
now go to the judge and ask to place some people there from his little
anecdote
under surveillance too?
...
Yet I still prefer the late John Entwhistle, no disrespect to Bruce.
And I saw Jimmy Hendrix in Berkeley in 1970.
I will admit to a certain degree of envy.
You're mistaken. I saw him in San Diego in 1970.
Harummph.
"Creepy, crawly
Creepy, crawly
Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly
Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly
Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly
Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly"
...
"Never more will he crawl 'round
He's embedded in the ground"
So take it back.
>
>"Bob Casanova" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >I am rubber, you are glue.
>>>>
>>>> >Bounces off me and sticks to you hoo!
>>>>
>>>> How old are you?
>>>>
>>>> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR-ixnPtxU8
>>>>
>>>> Oh, OK; YouTube is for early adolescents who enjoy computer
>>>> viruses, so you're what, 13 or so? Thanks for confirming.
>>>> --
>>>http://www.youtube.com/user/BarackObamadotcom
>>
>> Your point?
>
>Point? Sheldon?
>
>Not bloody likely.
I suspect his "point" was that since a well-known adult
appears on (or posts on?) YouTube my comment was inaccurate,
although he hasn't bothered to defend that attempted
refutation.
For your own sake please take your meds, or see a doctor to
get some. Your hallucinatory "golaszewski" comments indicate
an urgent need for intervention by a professional.
I saw Mitchell Coffey in New York in 2009.
--
--- Paul J. Gans
Get ready to see him again.
Jimi, come forth.
Don't like competition, eh.
>> In the words of Google, "don't be evil".
>> --
> What do you know about evil. What do any of you know about evil?
*yawn*
Fuck off, Sheldon.
There's a guy works down the chip shop swears he's Elvis.
I knew this guy called Jim Morrison. His brother had a Van...
I have a white cat that I sometimes stroke pensively while
contemplating world domination, does that count as a first step? After
all, I'm obviously talking to an expert.here and any guidance would be
welcome.
Tee-hee! Look, Sheldon made a funny!
But, seriously, Sheldon: fuck off.
Don't know where it's obvious that I'm an expert or even have any
knowledge of evil myself. But I've heard that cats are usually the
ones planning world domination rather than their owners while stroking
them.
> Michael wrote:
>
> John Symon Asher "Jack" Bruce (born 14 May 1943) is a Scottish musician,
> composer and singer. He is best-known as a bass guitarist, harmonica
> player and pianist, and was most famous as vocalist and the bass
> guitarist for the 1960s rock band Cream. He lives in Suffolk,
> England[1].
>
Thanks for that information, I had lost track of him over the years.
ciao,
f
--
aa #2301
Truth is something you stumble into when you think you're going some
place else.
-- Jerry Garcia
While I liked his playing he was no Phil Lesh nor Jaco Pastorious nor
Scott La Faro. :-P
ciao,
f
Fuck off, Sheldon.
Fuck off, Sheldon.
Oops, sorry, replied to the wrong poster.
Wikipedia, you know.
Feh. Ron Carter.
Note: GG just denied posting, as I had reached the "limit" for today. Now
posting from ES.
I'm pretty sure this isn't Glenn telling himself to fuck off. And I seem
to recall such an offense can get you banned from TO. If it doesn't, it
should.
Telling oneself to fuck off is or should be a bannable offense? You have
such high standards, for one who is pretty sure of things not true.
I would have thought a normally intelligent person would have been able
to figure this out: I thought someone was forging your name; :I thought
forging another poster's name was/should be a bannable offense. I don't
think telling yourself to fuck off should be bannable, though it's
mighty weird. Did you indeed tell yourself to fuck off?
You are not Glenn. Glenn is many things but he is not mentally ill.
You are. Please seek help.
Also, talk.origins is not healthy for you. You really, really need to
get away from your computer and into, at the very least, an outpatient
mental health program. Most counties (if you are in the US) have those
available. I myself am in an outpatient program for substance abuse.
If you need help finding such a program in your vicinity, please let
me know in group, and I will search the web for you to find one and
email you privately with the results. You really do need it.
Chris
It may be irrelevant to what actually is evil, but I was trying to find
out whether you think it's evil, so I asked. I will admit that asking
you questions is not a very good way to find out what you think, but
it's all I have.
> I'm not the authority on what is evil, nor
> are you. That we may agree or disagree on what is evil would not establish
> anything. But considering that since you seem to be doing the very thing you
> consider evil, I can only surmise that you consider yourself evil. Of
> course, that would only mean that you know what you consider evil.
As far as I know, I have not been encouraging I AM in his delusions.
I've been telling him his delusions are false, that I'm not this
golaszewski person, that he should seek psychiatric help, etc.
This is in contrast to the act I complained about: saying that a person
I AM thinks is golaszewski really is golaszewski, supporting his
paranoid fantasies.
> magicus wrote:
Oops, I forgot him, as well as many others, Bill Laswell springs to mind,
as well as Charlie Haden. There are so many who we disregard due to the
instrument. I just thought of at least two others, Eberhard Weber and
Stanley Clarke, and without a doubt we should mention Mingus, :-P
ciao,
f
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aa #2301
"Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day.
Give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish."
-- Timothy Jones
Have I confused Glenn with I AM? Is it in fact I AM who's telling Glenn
to fuck off? I thought it was Dan Luke. Or is more than one person
telling Glenn to fuck off?
Why were you telling yourself to fuck off? Not that I'm arguing with
you; it just seems an unusually bold step to take with yourself.
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:46:57 -0800, John Harshman <jhar...@pacbell.net>
> wrote:
>
> > magicus wrote:
> >> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 12:00:04 -0800, el cid <elcid...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Jan 11, 12:17 pm, John Harshman <jharsh...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> >>>> Michael wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> John Symon Asher "Jack" Bruce (born 14 May 1943) is a Scottish
> >>>> musician, composer and singer. He is best-known as a bass guitarist,
> >>>> harmonica player and pianist, and was most famous as vocalist and the
> >>>> bass guitarist for the 1960s rock band Cream. He lives in Suffolk,
> >>>> England[1].
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >>> Yet I still prefer the late John Entwhistle, no disrespect to Bruce.
> >>
> >> While I liked his playing he was no Phil Lesh nor Jaco Pastorious nor
> >> Scott La Faro. :-P
> >
> > Feh. Ron Carter.
>
> Oops, I forgot him, as well as many others, Bill Laswell springs to mind,
> as well as Charlie Haden. There are so many who we disregard due to the
> instrument. I just thought of at least two others, Eberhard Weber and
> Stanley Clarke, and without a doubt we should mention Mingus, :-P
>
> ciao,
> f
Stanley! I saw Stanley when he toured Aus back in the 70s.
Herein is a paradox, since I am that same person.
>
> Also, talk.origins is not healthy for you. You really, really need to
> get away from your computer and into, at the very least, an outpatient
> mental health program. Most counties (if you are in the US) have those
> available. I myself am in an outpatient program for substance abuse.
> If you need help finding such a program in your vicinity, please let
> me know in group, and I will search the web for you to find one and
> email you privately with the results. You really do need it.
>
Never seen the need, but thanks on behalf of the nonexistent pseudo.
I told you what I think just above. Sometimes I wonder whether you really
don't understand.
>
> > I'm not the authority on what is evil, nor
> > are you. That we may agree or disagree on what is evil would not
establish
> > anything. But considering that since you seem to be doing the very thing
you
> > consider evil, I can only surmise that you consider yourself evil. Of
> > course, that would only mean that you know what you consider evil.
>
> As far as I know, I have not been encouraging I AM in his delusions.
> I've been telling him his delusions are false, that I'm not this
> golaszewski person, that he should seek psychiatric help, etc.
>
> This is in contrast to the act I complained about: saying that a person
> I AM thinks is golaszewski really is golaszewski, supporting his
> paranoid fantasies.
>
Proper names should be capitalized, John.
Why do you think that encouraging delusions is evil? Could it not be a
constructive therapy?
Nils Henning Orsted Pedersen. Alphonso Johnson. Paul McCartney (hey,
listen to him).
There's logic involved?
Nobody except you has direct access to what's going on in your head. If
you want others to understand, you have to communicate. Answering
questions would be a good start.
>>> I'm not the authority on what is evil, nor
>>> are you. That we may agree or disagree on what is evil would not
> establish
>>> anything. But considering that since you seem to be doing the very thing
> you
>>> consider evil, I can only surmise that you consider yourself evil. Of
>>> course, that would only mean that you know what you consider evil.
>> As far as I know, I have not been encouraging I AM in his delusions.
>> I've been telling him his delusions are false, that I'm not this
>> golaszewski person, that he should seek psychiatric help, etc.
>>
>> This is in contrast to the act I complained about: saying that a person
>> I AM thinks is golaszewski really is golaszewski, supporting his
>> paranoid fantasies.
>>
> Proper names should be capitalized, John.
I'm only following the convention as it was introduced.
> Why do you think that encouraging delusions is evil? Could it not be a
> constructive therapy?
I would consider discouraging delusions more likely to get a person to
seek treatment than encouraging them. I don't see a way in which it
could be a constructive therapy, and I suspect you don't either. But
feel free to suggest something.
Interesting reason.
>
> > Why do you think that encouraging delusions is evil? Could it not be a
> > constructive therapy?
>
> I would consider discouraging delusions more likely to get a person to
> seek treatment than encouraging them. I don't see a way in which it
> could be a constructive therapy, and I suspect you don't either. But
> feel free to suggest something.
>
What i see or You don't doesn't matter in this consideration of what evil
is. Answer the question, could it be? Whether a person engaging in what you
have claimed is evil believes it could be constructive or not, does not mean
it could not be constructive.
Have I mentioned that I'm glad not to have direct access to what goes on
in your head? This is the sort of imagination capable of supposing that
the Holocaust was all part of god's plan to make everything work out for
the best. I can't say for certain that such a view isn't true. But I
still think it was evil. I won't ask what you think, having run out of
hope that you would answer.
Sadly, no love shown for Chris Squire. I agree, however, McCartney is
underrated.
Meanwhile, ABBA and Genesis are nominated for Rock & Roll Hall
of Fame (plus The Hollies and The Stooges). I hope it's the Gabriel
Genesis and not the Collins Genesis.
When I was in SF with you lot, I was taken past a music joint with all
three names on the bill. Wow...
If you actually have answered my question, I apologize, but I missed
that answer. Could you point it out? The questions was "Would you
[consider reinforcing delusions evil]?"
Now you have said that whether you would is irrelevant. And you have
asked how I know it is. But I don't see anywhere you have answered that
question.
--
~it ends here~
*Hemidactylus*
It seemed to me that all of a sudden I AM started posting under the
nym Glenn. If I am mistaken, I am sorry. If that means Glenn is indeed
mentally ill, well that goes with the creationist territory.
Chris
Was I AM posting under the name Glenn? That's what it looked like to
me.
Chris
I saw KC and the Sunshine Band at a rodeo.
> Mitchell Coffey <m.co...@starpower.net> wrote:
> >On Jan 11, 2:37 pm, I AM <yost...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Jan 11, 2:29 pm, Mitchell Coffey <m.cof...@starpower.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Jan 11, 2:20 pm, John Harshman <jharsh...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> >> > > > Fascinating.
> >> > > > Now lock golaszewski up, he has wasted everyone's time.
> >>
> >> > > Dunno about you, but I find Jack Bruce much more interesting that Phil
> >> > > Collins and Peter Gabriel combined. And just as relevant to TO.
> >>
> >> > When I was 15 I saw Cream play in Oakland.
> >>
> >> > Mitchell Coffey
> >>
> >> And now that one of yours has replied with that tidbit, will
> >> golaszewski
> >> now go to the judge and ask to place some people there from his little
> >> anecdote
> >> under surveillance too?
>
> >And I saw Jimmy Hendrix in Berkeley in 1970.
>
> I saw Mitchell Coffey in New York in 2009.
OMG! Really!
>>
>> Oops, I forgot him, as well as many others, Bill Laswell springs to
>> mind, as well as Charlie Haden. There are so many who we disregard due
>> to the instrument. I just thought of at least two others, Eberhard
>> Weber and Stanley Clarke, and without a doubt we should mention Mingus,
>> :-P
>>
>> ciao,
>> f
>
> Stanley! I saw Stanley when he toured Aus back in the 70s.
I got to see him only once, with RTF, probably around the same time. They
played an electric set and a 'wooden' one. It was quite nice,
ciao,
f
--
aa #2301
Anyone can make the simple complicated, creativity is making the
complicated simple.
-- Charles Mingus
Was he playing with the band?
> On 1/11/2010 21:01, Paul J Gans wrote:
>> Mitchell Coffey<m.co...@starpower.net> wrote:
>>> On Jan 11, 2:37 pm, I AM<yost...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Jan 11, 2:29 pm, Mitchell Coffey<m.cof...@starpower.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 11, 2:20 pm, John Harshman<jharsh...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Fascinating.
>>>>>>> Now lock golaszewski up, he has wasted everyone's time.
>>>>
>>>>>> Dunno about you, but I find Jack Bruce much more interesting that
>>>>>> Phil Collins and Peter Gabriel combined. And just as relevant to
>>>>>> TO.
>>>>
>>>>> When I was 15 I saw Cream play in Oakland.
>>>>
>>>>> Mitchell Coffey
>>>>
>>>> And now that one of yours has replied with that tidbit, will
>>>> golaszewski
>>>> now go to the judge and ask to place some people there from his
>>>> little anecdote
>>>> under surveillance too?
>>
>>> And I saw Jimmy Hendrix in Berkeley in 1970.
>>
>> I saw Mitchell Coffey in New York in 2009.
>>
>
> There's a guy works down the chip shop swears he's Elvis.
Oh, come on now. He's a liar and I'm not sure about you.
We've been to graduate school.
Mitchell Coffey
If you see him again, tell him Jimmy said "Hi!"
Mitchell
In 1953 I faked my own birth.
Mitchell
And you're now able to answer all those people who've asked with
suspicion "Have you ever seen Mitchell Coffey and John Wilkins in the
same room?"
Mitchell
What happens in the aquatic ape facility, stays in the aquatic ape
facility.
Google shows two profiles under the name Glenn. One is
glennshel...@msn.com
Post Activity
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
glennshel...@msn.com
Post Activity
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2007 6 26 62 41 103 86 1 227 37 5 181
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2010 54
The other is glennshel...@invalid.invalid with 12 posts last June and
14 posts this month.
However, glennshel...@msn.com was telling himself to fuck off.
The glennshel...@invalid.invalid was complaining about the moderator
in June in one of the posts. Wasn't Michael also doing that?
No, Michael was telling you people headers onto usenet can
be completely forged.
If the feds have seized this group, they can be anyone they want as
long as they
no longer post here, to keep up appearances.
Sorry, I thought it was a rhetorical question, and that you meant "You
don't know anything about evil." I do think I know something about evil.
For one thing, evil does harm to people. (You may disagree.) And I think
that encouraging delusion does potential harm to the deluded, in that it
is better not to be delusional than to be delusional. If you want a
rigorous proof of any of that, I can't offer one.
And "It's irrelevant" isn't an answer; it's a rejection of the question.
Not all responses are answers.
I'll never tell...
>> In article <hig3j8$t1p$3...@reader1.panix.com>,
>> Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Mitchell Coffey <m.co...@starpower.net> wrote:
>> > >On Jan 11, 2:37Â pm, I AM <yost...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> On Jan 11, 2:29Â pm, Mitchell Coffey <m.cof...@starpower.net> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > On Jan 11, 2:20Â pm, John Harshman <jharsh...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> > >> > > > Fascinating.
>> > >> > > > Now lock golaszewski up, he has wasted everyone's time.
>> > >>
>> > >> > > Dunno about you, but I find Jack Bruce much more interesting that
>> > >> > > Phil
>> > >> > > Collins and Peter Gabriel combined. And just as relevant to TO.
>> > >>
>> > >> > When I was 15 I saw Cream play in Oakland.
>> > >>
>> > >> > Mitchell Coffey
>> > >>
>> > >> And now that one of yours has replied with that tidbit, will
>> > >> golaszewski
>> > >> now go to the judge and ask to place some people there from his little
>> > >> anecdote
>> > >> under surveillance too?
>> >
>> > >And I saw Jimmy Hendrix in Berkeley in 1970.
>> >
>> > I saw Mitchell Coffey in New York in 2009.
>>
>> OMG! Really!
>>
>Was he playing with the band?
As I recall he was sitting bemusedly.
--
--- Paul J. Gans
Good question. I'll have to think about it.
You in the witness protection program?
Mr. PC?
gregwrld
Remember, beer was involved.