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 More options Aug 5 2012, 10:45 am
Newsgroups: talk.origins
From: *Hemidactylus* <ecpho...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2012 10:45:46 -0400
Local: Sun, Aug 5 2012 10:45 am
Subject: Re: the intelligence war
On 08/05/2012 08:47 AM, Ron O wrote:

> On Aug 4, 9:36 pm, *Hemidactylus* <ecpho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> If elephants had realized long ago what an eventual threat to them
>> humans would become, could they have outmatched us at a time early in
>> our natural history and acted to literally stomp us into oblivion, herd
>> versus tribe? Could they have developed strategies to hunt and destroy
>> us and used their infrasonic or seismic means of communication to
>> coordinate seek and destroy attacks on humans? Long ago we lacked
>> elephant guns as tools of carnage:

> They haven't done that to lions and hyenas so the answer is likely no.

Is it because they are too dependent on one leader to make decisions for
the herd? The knowledge this leader (the matriarch) possesses could make
one herd more successful than the other and determine how elephants deal
with threats like lions:

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2011/03/15/older-e...

If past pachyderms were more like the sorts of elephants that break bad
and kill trainers, attack villages, or bugger and kill rhinos, things
might have turned out differently for us. But matriarchs are too much a
stabilizing force as are mature bulls, so it is only the crazy displaced
elephants of recent times that could have done us in I reckon.

Oh well.


 
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