What do Ray, nando and Pat Buchanon have in common?
Dan Luke
Ray Martinez
> http://comments.realclearpolitics.com/read/1/372681.html
I am a Democrat who of course supports Obama.
Ray
Stile4aly
How can you support someone who supports evolution, Ray?
"But I also believe our schools are there to teach worldly knowledge
and science. I believe in evolution, and I believe there’s a
difference between science and faith. That doesn’t make faith any less
important than science. It just means they’re two different things.
And I think it’s a mistake to try to cloud the teaching of science
with theories that frankly don’t hold up to scientific inquiry.“
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/04/01/obama-on-evolution/
I would think you would prefer someone like Huckabee or (God help us)
Palin.
John Smith
"Dan Luke" <t1...@dingdongsouth.net> wrote in message
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> http://comments.realclearpolitics.com/read/1/372681.html
>
A total loser, with a fried brain, sets up "real clear politics"?
Is everyone clear about that?
[M]adman
Obama does not "support" evolution. He is a politician like the pope.
Jesus cleared this up. But you guys do not understand how to make modern day
corelations to biblical passages.
Jesus said:
"Give unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar, Give unto God what belongs to God"
another variation is:
"Render unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar and render unto God what belongs
to God"
Jesus was talking about money and taxes. A worldly thing forced on God's
people.Sometimes we have to accept worldly things to get along in this
world.
Modern day translation? Obama was close.
Render unto the world it's worldly knowledge, respect it, accept it when you
need to because sometimes you have to.. But remember, just like with money,
worldly knowledge will fade away. It does not last. Each generation's
worldly knowledge will be over taken as new generation brings forth new
worldly knowledge. So like with money, the knowledge of this world does not
last. It will change with each new discovery. It belongs to this world and
this world only.
Render what is God unto God's. Which of course is a higher understanding of
this world and things beyond this world that emanates from within you. That
will always last. Something many of you fail to understand you can do..
HTH
adman
John Smith
"[M]adman" <ad...@hotmaill.et> wrote in message
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> Stile4aly wrote:
>> On Jul 2, 2:53 pm, Ray Martinez <pyramid...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Jul 2, 2:47 pm, "Dan Luke" <t1...@dingdongsouth.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://comments.realclearpolitics.com/read/1/372681.html
>>>
>>> I am a Democrat who of course supports Obama.
>>>
>>> Ray
>>
>> How can you support someone who supports evolution, Ray?
>>
>> "But I also believe our schools are there to teach worldly knowledge
>> and science. I believe in evolution, and I believe there's a
>> difference between science and faith. That doesn't make faith any less
>> important than science. It just means they're two different things.
>> And I think it's a mistake to try to cloud the teaching of science
>> with theories that frankly don't hold up to scientific inquiry."
>>
>> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/04/01/obama-on-evolution/
>>
>> I would think you would prefer someone like Huckabee or (God help us)
>> Palin.
>
>
> Obama does not "support" evolution. He is a politician like the pope.
>
> Jesus cleared this up. But you guys do not understand how to make modern
> day corelations to biblical passages.
>
and you can't comprehend the fact that christianity, god, jesus and the
bible are nothing more than unsupported BELIEFS.
(cut totally meaningless bible babble)
Karel P
news:6acdb212-0ab2-4276...@p36g2000prn.googlegroups.com:
In all fairness, if nobody in all honesty could vote
for someone who (s)he disagrees with in some, even
important points, while preferring the candidate on
other points, most votes would (or should) be withheld.
Regards,
Karel
--
If knowledge can create problems, it is not
through ignorance that we can solve them (Asimov)
wf3h
>>
> Obama does not "support" evolution. He is a politician like the pope.
so the pope's a liar? why would he lie about this and not about other
things, like the divinity of christ? seems you have a poor view of
catholics. they're so stupid their leader lies to them?
>
> Jesus cleared this up. But you guys do not understand how to make modern day
> corelations to biblical passages.
>
gee. neither do you. the most ancient statements of belief from
christianity never mention the bible
>
> Render unto the world it's worldly knowledge, respect it, accept it when you
> need to because sometimes you have to.. But remember, just like with money,
> worldly knowledge will fade away. It does not last. Each generation's
> worldly knowledge will be over taken as new generation brings forth new
> worldly knowledge. So like with money, the knowledge of this world does not
> last. It will change with each new discovery. It belongs to this world and
> this world only.
and 'belief in the bible' is this age's idea that will fade away. the
concept was invented at the niagra conference in the 1870's and has no
place in christian belief or tradition.
>
> Render what is God unto God's. Which of course is a higher understanding of
> this world and things beyond this world that emanates from within you. That
> will always last. Something many of you fail to understand you can do..
and you fail to understand god gave us the capacity to understand the
world he made via evolution. you think he wants us to check our brains
at the door. nothing could give god greater offense than to say we
must not use the brains he gave us to understand him.
you have no interest at all. to you, the bible is a checklist full of
rote meaning that does not warrant understanding. the world is a
machine to you that has no rules.
what a horrible view you have of god and the human race.
Nashton
Did you expect a faith-based spiritual movement or religion to be based
on hard scientific data?
LOL
>
> (cut totally meaningless bible babble)
>
If it's meaningless to you, that's fine. And that's where it ends.
Boikat
> http://comments.realclearpolitics.com/read/1/372681.html
Ray is a liar for Geebuss.
Buchanon is an ignorant right wing talking head schmuck.
Nando is just an emotionally disturbed obsessive-compulsive, prone to
fixation episodes, centered around "free will".
The only real thing they have in common is they don't like
"evilution", but their dislike is for different reasons.
Boikat
Woland
> Stile4aly wrote:
> > On Jul 2, 2:53 pm, Ray Martinez <pyramid...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Jul 2, 2:47 pm, "Dan Luke" <t1...@dingdongsouth.net> wrote:
>
> >>>http://comments.realclearpolitics.com/read/1/372681.html
>
> >> I am a Democrat who of course supports Obama.
>
> >> Ray
>
> > How can you support someone who supports evolution, Ray?
>
> > "But I also believe our schools are there to teach worldly knowledge
> > and science. I believe in evolution, and I believe there’s a
> > difference between science and faith. That doesn’t make faith any less
> > important than science. It just means they’re two different things.
> > And I think it’s a mistake to try to cloud the teaching of science
> > with theories that frankly don’t hold up to scientific inquiry.“
>
>
> > I would think you would prefer someone like Huckabee or (God help us)
> > Palin.
>
> Obama does not "support" evolution. He is a politician like the pope.
Both the Pope and Obama support evolution. Those are facts.
Eric Root
> "[M]adman" <ad...@hotmaill.et> wrote in message
>
> news:madman-wog3m.18142$Xw4....@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>
>
>
> > Stile4aly wrote:
> >> On Jul 2, 2:53 pm, Ray Martinez <pyramid...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> On Jul 2, 2:47 pm, "Dan Luke" <t1...@dingdongsouth.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>http://comments.realclearpolitics.com/read/1/372681.html
>
> >>> I am a Democrat who of course supports Obama.
>
> >>> Ray
>
> >> How can you support someone who supports evolution, Ray?
>
> >> "But I also believe our schools are there to teach worldly knowledge
> >> and science. I believe in evolution, and I believe there's a
> >> difference between science and faith. That doesn't make faith any less
> >> important than science. It just means they're two different things.
> >> And I think it's a mistake to try to cloud the teaching of science
> >> with theories that frankly don't hold up to scientific inquiry."
>
>
> >> I would think you would prefer someone like Huckabee or (God help us)
> >> Palin.
>
> > Obama does not "support" evolution. He is a politician like the pope.
>
> > Jesus cleared this up. But you guys do not understand how to make modern
> > day corelations to biblical passages.
>
> and you can't comprehend the fact that christianity, god, jesus and the
> bible are nothing more than unsupported BELIEFS.
>
> (cut totally meaningless bible babble)
The only thing you capitalized is all the letters in one word.
Desertphile
> John Smith wrote:
> > and you can't comprehend the fact that christianity, god, jesus and the
> > bible are nothing more than unsupported BELIEFS.
> Did you expect a faith-based spiritual movement or religion to be based
> on hard scientific data?
Okay, I give up: what's the difference between "a faith-based
spiritual movement" and a religion?
--
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"Why aren't resurrections from the dead noteworthy?" -- Jim Rutz
Frank J
wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:06:31 -0300, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
> > John Smith wrote:
> > > and you can't comprehend the fact that christianity, god, jesus and the
> > > bible are nothing more than unsupported BELIEFS.
> > Did you expect a faith-based spiritual movement or religion to be based
> > on hard scientific data?
>
> Okay, I give up: what's the difference between "a faith-based
> spiritual movement" and a religion?
AIUI the latter is a subset of the former with a moral code. Whatever
the intent, in practice those who belong to organized religions are
just as "morally relativistic" as those who don't. Maybe moreso if
they're more interested in recruiting others than following its moral
rules.