How to combat insomnia.
spintronic
or two.
Come on guys, you all know the stages;
8 to 13 Hz
"Madman (aka Mudbrain) is on record as claiming:-
Science causes disease. "
ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz My eyes are heavy already.
4 to 7 Hz.
"That 3.5% actually means 25%...
That the actor Paul Newman was a creationist... "
11 to 16 Hz
"That "Dr." Kent Hovind has made lots of *scientific* discoveries...
That wars have been fought because some scientific finding
discredited
some facet of some religion... "
0.5 to 2 Hz
"To have a "higher education" than most posters to this news group...
To understand how geologists determine the age of any given sample of
rock... "
And now were in REM. The place where you hope Y.O.O drops dead, and
where it may actually happen.
"That trilobites were Cambrian mammals... [that one still makes me
laugh]
And that he has "created genes" and not evolved ape genes... "
Back to; Non-rapid eye movement sleep.
Wow, I feel relaxed already.
Hang on, here we go again.
0. to 0.5 Hz
"That linguists have traced all the world's languages to the Middle
East region and back to around the same time as the bible claims Noah
and his sons rebuilt mankind.
Claimed that talk.origin's moderator was a troll.
Claimed cigarettes do not cause cancer.
Now, I ask you, is this the sort of guy you would give an credence
to?
Certainly I don't. "
Can we come back from <0.5Hz?
If Y.O.O's still talking, please; let me sleep.
Will in New Haven
Just admit that your ally made all of those indefensible statements
and no one will recite them to you again. Why should he be able to
ignore his imbecilic comments just because you get bored when they are
mentioned?
--
Will in New Haven
spintronic
wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
Sorry did I say "a gem or two"?
Ya, I lied, he only has the one.
Greg G.
If YOO bothers you so much that he has infiltrated your sleep
patterns, perhaps you should get a hobby that doesn't involve Usenet.
May I suggest non-stamp collecting?
HighQ
.
> If YOO bothers you so much that he has infiltrated your sleep
> patterns,
I didn't say he infiltrated my sleep,
I said when it is infiltrated his gibberish sends me right off.
> perhaps you should get a hobby that doesn't involve Usenet.
> May I suggest non-stamp collecting?
Already do that one.
May I suggest you practice your double bluffs?
David Hare-Scott
> I had trouble sleeping in the past,
If it is serious see your doctor as it can wreck your life. Avoid
self-medicating as you won't break the cycle.
D
Dan Listermann
"spintronic" <spint...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d796deb4-02d8-4a89...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>I had trouble sleeping in the past, so now I just recite a Y.O.O gem
> or two.
>
I count backwards in German.
.
heekster
Zehn, neun, acht, sieben, sechs, f�nf, vier, drei, zwei, eins, ADMAN.
Fabelhaft.
All-seeing-I
>
> - Show quoted text -
And i have addressed them one by one THREE FUCKING TIMES.
But Ye Old Kook persist in repeating the same old crap over and over.
By You supporting that, it makes you look like the kook that most of
you can be.
You must be in touch with your "inner kook".
Ye Old One
Liar!
>
>But Ye Old Kook persist in repeating the same old crap over and over.
And will do until you deal with the lies contained in those claims.
>
>By You supporting that, it makes you look like the kook that most of
>you can be.
>
>You must be in touch with your "inner kook".
Ok. Since you appear unable to find a single scientific discovery to
attribute to Kent 'Bogus Degree' Hovind - which of course would be
very hard as he has never did any science. I think you should start
with backing up your ridiculous claim that "Linguists have traced all
the world's languages to the Middle East region and back to around the
same time as the bible claims Noah and his sons rebuilt mankind."
Come on Mudbrain, put up or admit it was a lie.
--
Bob.
People may not always remember exactly what you said, but they will
always remember just how bright you made them feel.
Free Lunch
Your concept of "address this" has some problems. Addressing a question
in such a context requires you to provide evidence, not merely repeat
the same old claim you made previously. Learn about science. It's
fascinating.
J.J. O'Shea
(in article
<5f4cd466-45bb-445f...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>):
When? I must have missed it.
>
> But Ye Old Kook persist in repeating the same old crap over and over.
Perhaps he missed it, too.
>
> By You supporting that, it makes you look like the kook that most of
> you can be.
>
> You must be in touch with your "inner kook".
>
Or, perhaps, either he missed it, too, or you never addressed the points.
Now, what is more likely, that the three of us missed your addressing the
points, not once, but three times, or that you're lying?
You can, of course, simply cite where you addressed the points. A Google
reference or a message-ID will do fine. Or, if you have the post handy, just
post it again.
Please note that your standard one-liner idiocies don't count as addressing
the points. You'll need to make substantive answers on each point. I don't
think that you can. Show me that I'm wrong.
--
email to oshea dot j dot j at gmail dot com.
All-seeing-I
>
> - Show quoted text -
Why do you lie on a regular basis FREE?
bpuharic
>
>And i have addressed them one by one THREE FUCKING TIMES.
blah blah. and so we have addressed your blatant lies innumerable
times as well. to no avail
J.J. O'Shea
(in article <86f3h55bhbrqa3g61...@4ax.com>):
>> And i have addressed them one by one THREE FUCKING TIMES.
>>
>> But Ye Old Kook persist in repeating the same old crap over and over.
>>
>> By You supporting that, it makes you look like the kook that most of
>> you can be.
>>
>> You must be in touch with your "inner kook".
>
> Your concept of "address this" has some problems.
Many, many, MANY problems.
> Addressing a question
> in such a context requires you to provide evidence, not merely repeat
> the same old claim you made previously.
His problem is simply that he has no evidence, and he knows it. Which is why
he simply cannot address those points.
> Learn about science. It's
> fascinating.
He would have to abandon his position to do that, and he never will.
All-seeing-I
>
> - Show quoted text -
No such thing has happened. Your post is just more dishonesty from evo-
atheist-freaks
All-seeing-I
>
> - Show quoted text -
You have been answered Freak. 3 times in 6 months.
Your evo-atheistic-pals show their true colors by supporting your
spamming nonsense anyway.
Which says alot about you and your atheist ilk ----for the entire
world to read for decades to come.
Desertphile
<spint...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I had trouble sleeping in the past, so now I just recite a Y.O.O gem
> or two.
Pearls; swine.
--
http://desertphile.org
Desertphile's Desert Soliloquy. WARNING: view with plenty of water
"Why aren't resurrections from the dead noteworthy?" -- Jim Rutz
J.J. O'Shea
(in article
<05b7e4c6-5455-4b05...@e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>):
Where is the lie?
All-seeing-I
Actually it is YOUR ally that keeps spamming this new group with the
same post over and over while you evo-atheist-freaks sit by and say
nothing.
The TO reputation has gone to the dogs; Real science has gone to the
dogs; All becuase of an Atheistic Agenda that condones such stupidity.
.
heekster
What you should do, then, is find just one of the messages where you
did address the issues, in the google archive, click on "more options"
click on "individual message", and bookmark the URL.
That way, when you are challenged on one of these items, you can
simply produce the URL, and that is that.
Of course, this will not work, if you BS, or editorialize, or actually
fail to address the issue, in the message that you chose to utilize.
In that eventuality, you will have howlers on your back, something you
seem to live with almost continuously, anyway.
If your 3 messages aren't to the criteria I listed, make a new post
that is to the criteria, post it, and bookmark that post.
Dan Listermann
"heekster" <heek...@ifiwxtc.net> wrote in message
news:ood3h55460unm834q...@4ax.com...
I used to start at ein hundert, but now ein tausend.
.
Caranx latus
> On Nov 28, 6:17 pm, Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:
<snip>
>> Ok. Since you appear unable to find a single scientific discovery to
>> attribute to Kent 'Bogus Degree' Hovind - which of course would be
>> very hard as he has never did any science. I think you should start
>> with backing up your ridiculous claim that "Linguists have traced all
>> the world's languages to the Middle East region and back to around the
>> same time as the bible claims Noah and his sons rebuilt mankind."
>>
>> Come on Mudbrain, put up or admit it was a lie.
>>
>> --
>> Bob.
>>
>> People may not always remember exactly what you said, but they will
>> always remember just how bright you made them feel.
>
> You have been answered Freak. 3 times in 6 months.
>
> Your evo-atheistic-pals show their true colors by supporting your
> spamming nonsense anyway.
>
> Which says alot about you and your atheist ilk ----for the entire
> world to read for decades to come.
Please don't paint all atheists with the same brush. I killfiled Ye Old
One many months ago specifically because of the way that he continually
posts the same challenges over and over and over again as though that
accomplishes something. I'm also *not* a net nanny, and I know that I
cannot force anyone to change their posting habits just by harping about
them.
There is a Google Groups killfile add-on for the Firefox browser, which
I use. I've just installed the add-on myself, and it works. You could
consider using it.
Greg G.
He just gave an account of it playing a role in his sleep patterns,
then denied it under a different nym. I responded to the first
account. If it didn't happen, take it up with your fellow evolution
denier.
All-Seeing-I
>
> - Show quoted text -
My hobby is to bring you the truth
bpuharic
<allse...@usa.com> wrote:
>
>My hobby is to bring you the truth
you go ahead and do that.
let us know when you start.
Ye Old One
<ap...@email.com> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
He doesn't. You do.
--
Bob.
The truth is like ice water, it shocks you when it hits you, but no
one's ever died from it. Do yourself a favour and try it sometime.
Ye Old One
Oh you do like to lie little Mudbrain.
>
>Your evo-atheistic-pals show their true colors by supporting your
>spamming nonsense anyway.
Two lies in one post. Par for your course.
>
>Which says alot about you and your atheist ilk ----for the entire
>world to read for decades to come.
>
>
So, it now looks certain that you cannot provide and scientific
discovery made by Kent 'Bogus Degree' Hovind. It also looks like you
are forced to admit that your claim that "Linguists have traced all
the world's languages to the Middle East region and back to around the
same time as the bible claims Noah and his sons rebuilt mankind" is
equally false.
Do you realize how bad things look for you when you keep avoiding
these issues.
--
Bob.
If brains were taxed, you would get a rebate.
Ye Old One
enriched this group when s/he wrote:
It does.
> I'm also *not* a net nanny, and I know that I
>cannot force anyone to change their posting habits just by harping about
>them.
>
>There is a Google Groups killfile add-on for the Firefox browser, which
>I use. I've just installed the add-on myself, and it works. You could
>consider using it.
You could consider getting him to face reality - it would be far
better for him and for you.
--
Bob.
You have not been charged for this lesson - learn from it rather than
continuing to make a fool of yourself.
Ye Old One
>My hobby is to bring you the truth
But you never do.
Ye Old One
How do you work that out?
Ye Old One
It is not spam, and this group has been here sing 1986.
>with the
>same post over and over while you evo-atheist-freaks sit by and say
>nothing.
They all want to see you either back up your wild claims or admit that
you were wrong.
>
>The TO reputation has gone to the dogs; Real science has gone to the
>dogs; All becuase of an Atheistic Agenda that condones such stupidity.
See, there you go, lying again.
Sapient Fridge
<70ae6d56-2515-4bac...@k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
All-seeing-I <ap...@email.com> writes
>On Nov 28, 6:17�pm, Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:
<snip>
>> Ok. Since you appear unable to find a single scientific discovery to
>> attribute to Kent 'Bogus Degree' Hovind - which of course would be
>> very hard as he has never did any science. I think you should start
>> with backing up your ridiculous claim that "Linguists have traced all
>> the world's languages to the Middle East region and back to around the
>> same time as the bible claims Noah and his sons rebuilt mankind."
>>
>> Come on Mudbrain, put up or admit it was a lie.
>>
>> --
>> Bob.
>>
>> People may not always remember exactly what you said, but they will
>> always remember just how bright you made them feel.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>You have been answered Freak. 3 times in 6 months.
>
>Your evo-atheistic-pals show their true colors by supporting your
>spamming nonsense anyway.
You mean like this?:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.bible/msg/cba04cfaf760c0d2
or this:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/6ea4016273584897
--
sapient_...@spamsights.org ICQ #17887309 * Save the net *
Grok: http://spam.abuse.net http://www.cauce.org * nuke a spammer *
Find: http://www.samspade.org http://www.netdemon.net * today *
Kill: http://mail-abuse.com http://au.sorbs.net http://spamhaus.org
J.J. O'Shea
(in article <uhl4h51es0u9iu0tf...@4ax.com>):
oh, my.
>
>> with the
>> same post over and over while you evo-atheist-freaks sit by and say
>> nothing.
>
> They all want to see you either back up your wild claims
He can't do that.
> or admit that
> you were wrong.
He won't do that.
>>
>> The TO reputation has gone to the dogs; Real science has gone to the
>> dogs; All becuase of an Atheistic Agenda that condones such stupidity.
>
> See, there you go, lying again.
That would be his normal procedure.
All-Seeing-I
>
> - Show quoted text -
I do not killfile anyone. You might actually have something of intrest
to say one day.
Miracles can happen.
Caranx latus
> On Nov 29, 5:07 am, Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:16:41 -0500, Caranx latus <kar...@sympatico.ca>
>> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
<snip>
>>> Please don't paint all atheists with the same brush. I killfiled Ye Old
>>> One many months ago specifically because of the way that he continually
>>> posts the same challenges over and over and over again as though that
>>> accomplishes something.
>> It does.
[Piggybacking]
Apart from demonstrating that you've mastered the keyboard sequences
Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V, what does it accomplish?
>>> I'm also *not* a net nanny, and I know that I
>>> cannot force anyone to change their posting habits just by harping about
>>> them.
>>> There is a Google Groups killfile add-on for the Firefox browser, which
>>> I use. I've just installed the add-on myself, and it works. You could
>>> consider using it.
>> You could consider getting him to face reality - it would be far
>> better for him and for you.
How do you propose that I can do that, Bob? This is Usenet, and you
can't force anyone to do anything that they don't want to do.
>> You have not been charged for this lesson - learn from it rather than
>> continuing to make a fool of yourself.
>
heekster
it is truly a shame that you have not been able to pursue your hobby
for the last several years.
Good luck with that.
Ye Old One
>I do not killfile anyone. I might actually have something of intrest
>to say one day.
>
>Miracles can happen.
Text corrected.
Ye Old One
enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>All-Seeing-I wrote:
>> On Nov 29, 5:07 am, Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:16:41 -0500, Caranx latus <kar...@sympatico.ca>
>>> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>>>> Please don't paint all atheists with the same brush. I killfiled Ye Old
>>>> One many months ago specifically because of the way that he continually
>>>> posts the same challenges over and over and over again as though that
>>>> accomplishes something.
>>> It does.
>
>[Piggybacking]
>
>Apart from demonstrating that you've mastered the keyboard sequences
>Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V, what does it accomplish?
Don't you know how sig files work?
>
>>>> I'm also *not* a net nanny, and I know that I
>>>> cannot force anyone to change their posting habits just by harping about
>>>> them.
>>>> There is a Google Groups killfile add-on for the Firefox browser, which
>>>> I use. I've just installed the add-on myself, and it works. You could
>>>> consider using it.
>>> You could consider getting him to face reality - it would be far
>>> better for him and for you.
>
>How do you propose that I can do that, Bob? This is Usenet, and you
>can't force anyone to do anything that they don't want to do.
You can't force - but you can prod. I offer McClueless as an example -
eventually too many people were calling him on the same things over
and over again and he did a runner.
>
>>> You have not been charged for this lesson - learn from it rather than
>>> continuing to make a fool of yourself.
>>
>> I do not killfile anyone. You might actually have something of intrest
>> to say one day.
>>
>> Miracles can happen.
>>
--
Bob.
Ye Old One
>> It is not spam, and this group has been here since 1986.
>
>oh, my.
Yep. :)
>
>>
>>> with the
>>> same post over and over while you evo-atheist-freaks sit by and say
>>> nothing.
>>
>> They all want to see you either back up your wild claims
>
>He can't do that.
Because they cannot be backed up.
>
>> or admit that
>> you were wrong.
>
>He won't do that.
Because he is a typical lying creationist.
>
>>>
>>> The TO reputation has gone to the dogs; Real science has gone to the
>>> dogs; All becuase of an Atheistic Agenda that condones such stupidity.
>>
>> See, there you go, lying again.
>
>That would be his normal procedure.
Spot on.
--
Bob.
When D-G made Madman out of clay he forgot to magic the brain. I think
that explains everything.
Devils Advocaat
So you don't want this list to keep on appearing in this newsgroup?
mur...@tntech.edu
> On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:58:03 -0500, All-seeing-I wrote
> (in article
>
> > And i have addressed them one by one THREE FUCKING TIMES.
>
>
>
> > But Ye Old Kook persist in repeating the same old crap over and over.
>
>
I missed it, so please cite where you addressed those points. A link
will do.
---DPM
>
> You can, of course, simply cite where you addressed the points. A Google
> reference or a message-ID will do fine. Or, if you have the post handy, just
> post it again.
>
> Please note that your standard one-liner idiocies don't count as addressing
> the points. You'll need to make substantive answers on each point. I don't
> think that you can. Show me that I'm wrong.
>
Caranx latus
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:07:48 -0500, Caranx latus <kar...@sympatico.ca>
> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>
>
>
> >All-Seeing-I wrote:
> >> On Nov 29, 5:07 am, Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:16:41 -0500, Caranx latus <kar...@sympatico.ca>
> >>> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>
> ><snip>
>
> >>>> Please don't paint all atheists with the same brush. I killfiled Ye Old
> >>>> One many months ago specifically because of the way that he continually
> >>>> posts the same challenges over and over and over again as though that
> >>>> accomplishes something.
> >>> It does.
>
> >[Piggybacking]
>
> >Apart from demonstrating that you've mastered the keyboard sequences
> >Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V, what does it accomplish?
>
> Don't you know how sig files work?
I confess to being a bit tired today, and I can't see how that was an
answer to my question.
> >>>> I'm also *not* a net nanny, and I know that I
> >>>> cannot force anyone to change their posting habits just by harping about
> >>>> them.
> >>>> There is a Google Groups killfile add-on for the Firefox browser, which
> >>>> I use. I've just installed the add-on myself, and it works. You could
> >>>> consider using it.
> >>> You could consider getting him to face reality - it would be far
> >>> better for him and for you.
>
> >How do you propose that I can do that, Bob? This is Usenet, and you
> >can't force anyone to do anything that they don't want to do.
>
> You can't force - but you can prod. I offer McClueless as an example -
> eventually too many people were calling him on the same things over
> and over again and he did a runner.
Is that what you want? A discussion group where everyone thinks like
you do? What's the point of that?
> >>> You have not been charged for this lesson - learn from it rather than
> >>> continuing to make a fool of yourself.
>
> >> I do not killfile anyone. You might actually have something of intrest
> >> to say one day.
>
> >> Miracles can happen.
>
> --
> Bob.
>
> You have not been charged for this lesson - learn from it rather than
> continuing to make a fool of yourself.
By the way, sigs are supposed to begin with dash-dash-space, not just
dash-dash.
Ye Old One
<kar...@sympatico.ca> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>On Nov 29, 12:30 pm, Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:07:48 -0500, Caranx latus <kar...@sympatico.ca>
>> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >All-Seeing-I wrote:
>> >> On Nov 29, 5:07 am, Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:
>> >>> On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:16:41 -0500, Caranx latus <kar...@sympatico.ca>
>> >>> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>>
>> ><snip>
>>
>> >>>> Please don't paint all atheists with the same brush. I killfiled Ye Old
>> >>>> One many months ago specifically because of the way that he continually
>> >>>> posts the same challenges over and over and over again as though that
>> >>>> accomplishes something.
>> >>> It does.
>>
>> >[Piggybacking]
>>
>> >Apart from demonstrating that you've mastered the keyboard sequences
>> >Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V, what does it accomplish?
>>
>> Don't you know how sig files work?
>
>I confess to being a bit tired today, and I can't see how that was an
>answer to my question.
The text is set as one of the optional sigs to be added. No copy and
pasting involved.
>
>> >>>> I'm also *not* a net nanny, and I know that I
>> >>>> cannot force anyone to change their posting habits just by harping about
>> >>>> them.
>> >>>> There is a Google Groups killfile add-on for the Firefox browser, which
>> >>>> I use. I've just installed the add-on myself, and it works. You could
>> >>>> consider using it.
>> >>> You could consider getting him to face reality - it would be far
>> >>> better for him and for you.
>>
>> >How do you propose that I can do that, Bob? This is Usenet, and you
>> >can't force anyone to do anything that they don't want to do.
>>
>> You can't force - but you can prod. I offer McClueless as an example -
>> eventually too many people were calling him on the same things over
>> and over again and he did a runner.
>
>Is that what you want? A discussion group where everyone thinks like
>you do? What's the point of that?
Mudbrain is not here to discuss, if he was he would have learnt
something by now.
>
>> >>> You have not been charged for this lesson - learn from it rather than
>> >>> continuing to make a fool of yourself.
>>
>> >> I do not killfile anyone. You might actually have something of intrest
>> >> to say one day.
>>
>> >> Miracles can happen.
>>
>> --
>> Bob.
>>
>> You have not been charged for this lesson - learn from it rather than
>> continuing to make a fool of yourself.
>
>By the way, sigs are supposed to begin with dash-dash-space, not just
>dash-dash.
Looking at the source of the original it is "-- ".
--
Bob.
Read a Spincronic post in the morning and nothing worse will happen to
you for the rest of the day.
Caranx latus
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:27:08 -0800 (PST), Caranx latus
> <kar...@sympatico.ca> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Nov 29, 12:30 pm, Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:07:48 -0500, Caranx latus <kar...@sympatico.ca>
> >> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>
> >> >All-Seeing-I wrote:
> >> >> On Nov 29, 5:07 am, Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:
> >> >>> On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:16:41 -0500, Caranx latus <kar...@sympatico.ca>
> >> >>> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>
> >> ><snip>
>
> >> >>>> Please don't paint all atheists with the same brush. I killfiled Ye Old
> >> >>>> One many months ago specifically because of the way that he continually
> >> >>>> posts the same challenges over and over and over again as though that
> >> >>>> accomplishes something.
> >> >>> It does.
>
> >> >[Piggybacking]
>
> >> >Apart from demonstrating that you've mastered the keyboard sequences
> >> >Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V, what does it accomplish?
>
> >> Don't you know how sig files work?
>
> >I confess to being a bit tired today, and I can't see how that was an
> >answer to my question.
>
> The text is set as one of the optional sigs to be added. No copy and
> pasting involved.
Ah. Well then. I will note simply that, for a sig, it's rather lengthy
and seems to show up far too often.
Fair enough. Let's chalk that one up to Google Groups fouling things
up. Lack-of-God knows, it fouls up so much else.
Ye Old One
Only in reply to Mudbrain, and the number of times depends on the
number of his posts to a large extent.
[snip]
>> >> --
>> >> Bob.
>>
>> >> You have not been charged for this lesson - learn from it rather than
>> >> continuing to make a fool of yourself.
>>
>> >By the way, sigs are supposed to begin with dash-dash-space, not just
>> >dash-dash.
>>
>> Looking at the source of the original it is "-- ".
>
>Fair enough. Let's chalk that one up to Google Groups fouling things
>up. Lack-of-God knows, it fouls up so much else.
Very true.
>
--
Bob.