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john vermeer

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Oct 15, 2007, 2:53:40 PM10/15/07
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Abiogenesis or God?

Bill Hudson

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Oct 15, 2007, 2:59:26 PM10/15/07
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On Oct 15, 11:53 am, john vermeer <john.verm...@casema.nl> wrote:
> Abiogenesis or God?

define "evil"

RAM

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Oct 15, 2007, 2:57:40 PM10/15/07
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On Oct 15, 1:53 pm, john vermeer <john.verm...@casema.nl> wrote:
> Abiogenesis or God?

Neither.

Ralph

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Oct 15, 2007, 2:57:56 PM10/15/07
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> Abiogenesis or God?
>

Homo sapiens


Bodega

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Oct 15, 2007, 3:04:10 PM10/15/07
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On Oct 15, 11:53 am, john vermeer <john.verm...@casema.nl> wrote:
> Abiogenesis or God?

Space aliens.

AC

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Oct 15, 2007, 3:43:37 PM10/15/07
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Anything involving spicy pickles.

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Jack Mollier

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Oct 15, 2007, 3:50:33 PM10/15/07
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On Oct 15, 2:53 pm, john vermeer <john.verm...@casema.nl> wrote:
> Abiogenesis or God?

I form the light; and create darkness. I make peace -- and create
evil. I the LORD do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7

Bill Hudson

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Oct 15, 2007, 3:54:19 PM10/15/07
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Touché!


Bill Hudson

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Oct 15, 2007, 3:52:55 PM10/15/07
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On Oct 15, 12:43 pm, AC <mightymartia...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:59:26 -0000,
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> Bill Hudson <oldgeek61-...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Oct 15, 11:53 am, john vermeer <john.verm...@casema.nl> wrote:
> >> Abiogenesis or God?
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> > define "evil"
>
> Anything involving spicy pickles.
>
> --
> Aaron Clausen
> mightymartia...@gmail.com

Hm... I've discovered that I am gluten intolerant, so for me 'evil' =
anything with wheat, rye or barley products.


skyeyes

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Oct 15, 2007, 3:59:51 PM10/15/07
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...then define "god."

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net

Sven

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Oct 15, 2007, 4:28:35 PM10/15/07
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:53:40 -0700, john vermeer wrote:

> Abiogenesis or God?

Does the dog possess the buddha-nature?

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Kermit

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Oct 15, 2007, 5:32:19 PM10/15/07
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Arf!

Curmutt

Richard Clayton

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Oct 15, 2007, 8:50:40 PM10/15/07
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Wuuf.
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Al

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Oct 15, 2007, 9:14:41 PM10/15/07
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On Oct 16, 4:53 am, john vermeer <john.verm...@casema.nl> wrote:
> Abiogenesis or God?

Way too many suppositions and undefined terms.
So, what is evil? Apart from gluten and spicy pickles.
Is there one thing that's responsible for all of it? What is
responsibility?
What is it that you are refering to by abiogenesis or god?

All that aside, I'm going with "life".


Bob Casanova

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Oct 15, 2007, 9:53:15 PM10/15/07
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:59:51 -0700, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by skyeyes <sky...@dakotacom.net>:

>On Oct 15, 11:59 am, Bill Hudson <oldgeek61-...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 15, 11:53 am, john vermeer <john.verm...@casema.nl> wrote:
>>
>> > Abiogenesis or God?
>>
>> define "evil"
>
>...then define "god."

...then define "abiogenesis", since creationists also seem
confused about this.
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Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

Ken Shackleton

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Oct 15, 2007, 10:53:03 PM10/15/07
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So...vodka only then?

Ken Shackleton

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Oct 15, 2007, 10:55:17 PM10/15/07
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On Oct 15, 12:53 pm, john vermeer <john.verm...@casema.nl> wrote:
> Abiogenesis or God?

Good and Evil are human concepts only. Abstractions of what we see has
beneficial and harmful.

Bill Morse

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Oct 15, 2007, 10:56:04 PM10/15/07
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Ralph wrote:

Since mankind created God in their own image, I can go with that.
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Yours, Bill Morse

Thurisaz the Einherjer

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Oct 15, 2007, 11:43:26 PM10/15/07
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Define "evil".

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"For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you
cretinists, as it is written on aig."

My personal judgment of monotheism: http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus

Cj

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Oct 16, 2007, 3:27:34 AM10/16/07
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>>> Abiogenesis or God?

God of course, abiogenesis has nothing to do with evil.
Cj

bob

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Oct 16, 2007, 7:38:40 AM10/16/07
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On 15 Oct 2007 11:53:40 -0700, john vermeer wrote:

> Abiogenesis or God?

Neither.
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Oct 16, 2007, 9:12:19 AM10/16/07
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On Oct 15, 2:53 pm, john vermeer <john.verm...@casema.nl> wrote:
> Abiogenesis or God?

The laws of physics.

Eric Root

Homer Noodleman

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Oct 16, 2007, 9:57:58 PM10/16/07
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"Evil" is a human concept. It come in three flavors:

Evil that doesn't care that it's evil (aka amorality).

Evil that knows it's evil and likes it - (aka immorality).

Evil that thinks it's good.

The latter is the one that gets lots of people killed.


Shearwater

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Oct 17, 2007, 1:10:10 AM10/17/07
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John vermeer posed one of the stupidest questions
ever authored by a human being.

> Who or what is responsible for all evil?
> Abiogenesis or God?
>
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Gosh, which of the two is the correct answer?

Surely a fictional character could not reasonably be blamed
for "all evil" so, that leaves one option and one option only.

Let's see....


Could it be....?


Nah, surely you don't mean...?


But there it is.... the single remaining option of only
two. The only possible causes for evil Two of them.
Only two. There couldn't possibly be any other
causes of evil. Just those two..... abiogenesis.

Or god.

And god doesn't exist.

Abiogenisis happened. It's a fact. But how could
abiogenesis be 'responsible' for evil? Unless you
mean it's responsible for the existence of those
evil deluded fundamentalist christian thugs who
would impose their twisted morality and
thundering lies on our society.

Well, you're right. Abiogenesis IS responsible for
all that is evil in this world.

Bad abiogenesis. Naughty abiogenesis.

Naughty! Go to your room!


Bill Hudson

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Oct 17, 2007, 1:32:08 AM10/17/07
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No, wine is fine, but beer is out. :-(


Bill Hudson

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Oct 17, 2007, 1:34:49 AM10/17/07
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Does abiogenesis have a gas mask welded to it's face, and does it go
around asking for it's 'mummy'?

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