SF Howlerfest post mortem
Michael Siemon
San Francisco. I picked John up at his Berkeley Hotel and we met (after
some delay for trains running along the main drag in Jack London Square)
with Susan Silberstein and her cousin Tom Leibowitz. From there by ferry
underneath the Bay Bridge to the SF Ferry Building where we gawked at a
unicyclist and eyed the produce, thence to BART and deepest San Francisco
(30th and Mission) for Zante's pizza, where we were met by John Harshman
and Hamish Reid, and with a timely arrival of Cubist (Quentin Long)
before the delivery of two large vegetarian Indian pizzas (sans
cilantro), proceded to dispose of many of the world's problems. John H.
left to try to find his wife while the rest of us returned to the Ferry
Building and (all but Quentin, who went underground on his way back to
San Jose) a return water excursion to Oakland.
A small selection of photos may be found at:
<http://www.greenerywest.net/Other/Pages/Wilkins_in__SF_-_2009.html>
John Wilkins
<mlsiemon-10FBC2...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
Michael Siemon <mlsi...@sonic.net> wrote:
Given that post mortems are performed on the dead:
This is an ex Howlerfest. It has ceased to be. It has shuffled off this
mortal coil and gone to join the choir invisible. It is no more.
I owe thanks to Michael in particular for his excellent driving skills.
I'm sorry that he wasted his Saturday.
Michael Siemon
John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
Hey, "waste not, want not", and I can't imagine being in the position
of not wanting something... [well, I can, but that's too close to your
norwegian comments for comfort.]
John Wilkins
<add...@is.invalid> wrote:
> Michael Siemon wrote:
>
> > A small selection of photos may be found at:
> >
> > <http://www.greenerywest.net/Other/Pages/Wilkins_in__SF_-_2009.html>
>
> That doesn't work here in Firefox. It does in Opera.
>
> I had always imagined John as a beardy fellow. This is a bit of a
> disappointment. Oh well.
>
Used to be. A rash prevents me these days.
Ye Old One
Little bit of text but no photos????
--
Bob.
chris thompson
Photos don't show in Firefox, but they do in Internet Deplorer.
Chris
J. J. Lodder
> Michael Siemon wrote:
>
> > A small selection of photos may be found at:
> >
> > <http://www.greenerywest.net/Other/Pages/Wilkins_in__SF_-_2009.html>
>
> That doesn't work here in Firefox. It does in Opera.
>
> I had always imagined John as a beardy fellow. This is a bit of a
> disappointment. Oh well.
Sure. All philosophers should look like Socrates.
Bit of a disappointment, all of them.
Philosophers of science are excused of course,
Jan
John Wilkins
<nos...@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:
You *are* aware that Socrates was walleyed, hirsute and generally ugly,
aren't you?
... hey! Waitaminute!
J. J. Lodder
Roaming Rider
Nice pictures.
John Wilkins,
Are you as friendly as you look and write?
/RR
chris thompson
No one who packs a drop bear in his backpack can be called friendly.
Chris
John Harshman
Post mortem? Are we dead already?
> Some of us wasted a good part of Saturday hauling John Wilkins around
> San Francisco. I picked John up at his Berkeley Hotel and we met (after
> some delay for trains running along the main drag in Jack London Square)
> with Susan Silberstein and her cousin Tom Leibowitz. From there by ferry
> underneath the Bay Bridge to the SF Ferry Building where we gawked at a
> unicyclist and eyed the produce, thence to BART and deepest San Francisco
> (30th and Mission) for Zante's pizza, where we were met by John Harshman
> and Hamish Reid, and with a timely arrival of Cubist (Quentin Long)
> before the delivery of two large vegetarian Indian pizzas (sans
> cilantro), proceded to dispose of many of the world's problems. John H.
> left to try to find his wife while the rest of us returned to the Ferry
> Building and (all but Quentin, who went underground on his way back to
> San Jose) a return water excursion to Oakland.
I was successful, by the way. I always like to tell people I've lost my
wife recently, but then I find her again.
Friar Broccoli
> In article <4af93a33$0$22916$e4fe5...@news.xs4all.nl>, nmp
>
> <addr...@is.invalid> wrote:
> > Michael Siemon wrote:
>
> > > A small selection of photos may be found at:
>
> > > <http://www.greenerywest.net/Other/Pages/Wilkins_in__SF_-_2009.html>
>
> > That doesn't work here in Firefox. It does in Opera.
>
> > I had always imagined John as a beardy fellow. This is a bit of a
> > disappointment. Oh well.
That guy looks like he could be substituted for my brother without
his wife noticing.
> Used to be. A rash prevents me these days.
I thought philosophers were beyond such considerations.
Friar Broccoli
> Michael Siemon wrote:
>
> Post mortem? Are we dead already?
Are you a true samurai?
> > Some of us wasted a good part of Saturday hauling John Wilkins around
> > San Francisco. I picked John up at his Berkeley Hotel and we met (after
> > some delay for trains running along the main drag in Jack London Square)
> > with Susan Silberstein and her cousin Tom Leibowitz. From there by ferry
> > underneath the Bay Bridge to the SF Ferry Building where we gawked at a
> > unicyclist and eyed the produce, thence to BART and deepest San Francisco
> > (30th and Mission) for Zante's pizza, where we were met by John Harshman
> > and Hamish Reid, and with a timely arrival of Cubist (Quentin Long)
> > before the delivery of two large vegetarian Indian pizzas (sans
> > cilantro), proceded to dispose of many of the world's problems. John H.
> > left to try to find his wife while the rest of us returned to the Ferry
> > Building and (all but Quentin, who went underground on his way back to
> > San Jose) a return water excursion to Oakland.
.
> I was successful, by the way. I always like to tell people I've lost my
> wife recently, but then I find her again.
Lesson: She needs to try harder.
Paul J Gans
You mean you rashly shaved it off?
--
--- Paul J. Gans
Paul J Gans
>Michael Siemon wrote:
>> A small selection of photos may be found at:
>>
>> <http://www.greenerywest.net/Other/Pages/Wilkins_in__SF_-_2009.html>
>That doesn't work here in Firefox. It does in Opera.
>I had always imagined John as a beardy fellow. This is a bit of a
>disappointment. Oh well.
Works in Konqueror too. One slide seems to be duplicated.
Paul J Gans
>Nice pictures.
>John Wilkins,
>/RR
He is that. Not a good candidate for the Sourge of the Unbelievers though.
Paul J Gans
But by the same token, they don't take rash actions.
Paul J Gans
I solved that problem. I brought mine with me when we had our
Wilkinsfest in New York.
Michael Siemon
Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:
Hmmmm; are you using FireFox? There appears to be a problem with FF
handling the web pages produced by Apple's iWeb (I'm too lazy to do
this myself...). Best bet is Safari or some other browser (I haven't
tried Opera, but [gag!] IE works.) Failing that, the pics are in
directories under a folder parallel to that link (that is, under
.../Wilkins_in__SF_-_2009_files/Media). But that will leave them without
context (e.g. labels).
Friar Broccoli
Butt, Butt,
He admitted hisself he was token by rash action!!
John Wilkins
<jhar...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Michael Siemon wrote:
>
> Post mortem? Are we dead already?
"Are we dead yet? Are we dead yet? Are we dead yet?"
"If you kids don't shut up, I'll leave your coffin at the side of the
road!"
>
> > Some of us wasted a good part of Saturday hauling John Wilkins around
> > San Francisco. I picked John up at his Berkeley Hotel and we met (after
> > some delay for trains running along the main drag in Jack London Square)
> > with Susan Silberstein and her cousin Tom Leibowitz. From there by ferry
> > underneath the Bay Bridge to the SF Ferry Building where we gawked at a
> > unicyclist and eyed the produce, thence to BART and deepest San Francisco
> > (30th and Mission) for Zante's pizza, where we were met by John Harshman
> > and Hamish Reid, and with a timely arrival of Cubist (Quentin Long)
> > before the delivery of two large vegetarian Indian pizzas (sans
> > cilantro), proceded to dispose of many of the world's problems. John H.
> > left to try to find his wife while the rest of us returned to the Ferry
> > Building and (all but Quentin, who went underground on his way back to
> > San Jose) a return water excursion to Oakland.
>
> I was successful, by the way. I always like to tell people I've lost my
> wife recently, but then I find her again.
While I was married I used to introduce my wife as my first wife until
she stopped me. For some reason she found that annoying.
John Wilkins
<01c00597-4bce-4997...@k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
Roaming Rider <intereste...@live.se> wrote:
Actually that was an actor I hired to play me. I am a twelve foot tall
demon with fangs and horns.
John Wilkins
<13ecd143-a96b-4265...@t18g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>,
Friar Broccoli <eli...@gmail.com> wrote:
We do not make rash decisions.
Robert Camp
> Some of us wasted a good part of Saturday hauling John Wilkins around
> San Francisco. I picked John up at his Berkeley Hotel and we met (after
> some delay for trains running along the main drag in Jack London Square)
> with Susan Silberstein and her cousin Tom Leibowitz. From there by ferry
> underneath the Bay Bridge to the SF Ferry Building where we gawked at a
> unicyclist and eyed the produce, thence to BART and deepest San Francisco
> (30th and Mission) for Zante's pizza, where we were met by John Harshman
> and Hamish Reid, and with a timely arrival of Cubist (Quentin Long)
> before the delivery of two large vegetarian Indian pizzas (sans
> cilantro), proceded to dispose of many of the world's problems. John H.
> left to try to find his wife while the rest of us returned to the Ferry
> Building and (all but Quentin, who went underground on his way back to
> San Jose) a return water excursion to Oakland.
>
> A small selection of photos may be found at:
>
> <http://www.greenerywest.net/Other/Pages/Wilkins_in__SF_-_2009.html>
Yeah, yeah...Berkeley, howlers, ferry...we get it. Now let's get to the
important stuff.
When are we going to hear more about the pizza?
Michael Siemon
Robert Camp <rober...@hotmail.com> wrote:
From the online menu:
"Topped with Spinach, Egg Plant, Cauliflower, Ginger, Garlic, Green
Onions & Cilantro."
though we had them hold the cilantro to aid one of our number. The
spinach, eggplant and cauliflower were intermixed small dabs of fairly
standard Indian "curry" recipes with these ingredients. There was some,
but not an overwhelming amount of, cheese to integrate the other stuff.
They also had a spicy mint sauce/chutney and a sweet/tangy (and very
purple!) tamarind sauce. Very interesting and a tasty alternative to
standard pizzas; two large pies were rapidly consumed by the 7 of us.
Ye Old One
Ah! For network security IE is removed from any windoze machine in the
place. FF is preferred and I'll report this failure for them to look
at - but it must be some strange coding to foil Firefox.
Must say, having just looked at the page source, I've never seen such
appalling code produced by anything other than microsloth's frontpage
before.
Still, will try to look via a remote machine later.
--
Bob.
John Wilkins
<mlsiemon-8B54A0...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
Michael Siemon <mlsi...@sonic.net> wrote:
Strictly, one large pie was consumed by me, and the other 6 shared the
other one...
Michael Siemon
It's common to FireFox and Camino, the Mac-ified front end to the same
engine. And most other non-Mac browsers work as far as I know. (So it is
not _likely_ to be a Steve Jobs plot to strong-arm folks to Safari! :-))
And I agree the the iWeb html output is atrocious. I am just too lazy to
work up my own style sheets and frameworks. Dammit, I _retired_!
Robert Camp
Oh...
> though we had them hold the cilantro to aid one of our number. The
> spinach, eggplant and cauliflower were intermixed small dabs of fairly
> standard Indian "curry" recipes with these ingredients.
....oh my...
> There was some,
> but not an overwhelming amount of, cheese to integrate the other stuff.
....oh, right there...
> They also had a spicy mint sauce/chutney and a sweet/tangy (and very
> purple!) tamarind sauce.
....yes, Yes, YES!...
> Very interesting and a tasty alternative to
> standard pizzas; two large pies were rapidly consumed by the 7 of us.
Sorry. Usually my pizzas and I get a room.
Paul J Gans
That's true. Wilkins must be a philorashist.
Hamish Reid
<mlsiemon-10FBC2...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
Michael Siemon <mlsi...@sonic.net> wrote:
> Some of us wasted a good part of Saturday hauling John Wilkins around
> San Francisco. I picked John up at his Berkeley Hotel and we met (after
> some delay for trains running along the main drag in Jack London Square)
> with Susan Silberstein and her cousin Tom Leibowitz. From there by ferry
> underneath the Bay Bridge to the SF Ferry Building where we gawked at a
> unicyclist and eyed the produce, thence to BART and deepest San Francisco
> (30th and Mission) for Zante's pizza, where we were met by John Harshman
> and Hamish Reid, and with a timely arrival of Cubist (Quentin Long)
> before the delivery of two large vegetarian Indian pizzas (sans
> cilantro), proceded to dispose of many of the world's problems. John H.
> left to try to find his wife while the rest of us returned to the Ferry
> Building and (all but Quentin, who went underground on his way back to
> San Jose) a return water excursion to Oakland.
>
> A small selection of photos may be found at:
>
> <http://www.greenerywest.net/Other/Pages/Wilkins_in__SF_-_2009.html>
Nice pix -- thanks! My own photo efforts were less than useful, so I
won't post them anywhere. So much for my being a photographer...
Hamish
*Hemidactylus*
> On Nov 10, 5:38 am, Ye Old One<use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:11:03 -0800, Michael Siemon
>> <mlsie...@sonic.net> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Some of us wasted a good part of Saturday hauling John Wilkins around
>>> San Francisco. I picked John up at his Berkeley Hotel and we met (after
>>> some delay for trains running along the main drag in Jack London Square)
>>> with Susan Silberstein and her cousin Tom Leibowitz. From there by ferry
>>> underneath the Bay Bridge to the SF Ferry Building where we gawked at a
>>> unicyclist and eyed the produce, thence to BART and deepest San Francisco
>>> (30th and Mission) for Zante's pizza, where we were met by John Harshman
>>> and Hamish Reid, and with a timely arrival of Cubist (Quentin Long)
>>> before the delivery of two large vegetarian Indian pizzas (sans
>>> cilantro), proceded to dispose of many of the world's problems. John H.
>>> left to try to find his wife while the rest of us returned to the Ferry
>>> Building and (all but Quentin, who went underground on his way back to
>>> San Jose) a return water excursion to Oakland.
>>
>>> A small selection of photos may be found at:
>>
>>> <http://www.greenerywest.net/Other/Pages/Wilkins_in__SF_-_2009.html>
>>
>>
>> Bob.
>
> Photos don't show in Firefox, but they do in Internet Deplorer.
>
>
hear from others on this thread that Opera works though. I'll try that.
Opera is more pretty and fancy, like Safari.
I read something today predicting the demise of FF with cloud computing.
When Google uncorks its OS hopefully it demises Windows and IE so we can
have another corporate behemoth to loathe and despise.
*Hemidactylus*
using Opera (but not Firefox).
*Hemidactylus*
are stray pit bull attacks?
John Wilkins
<ga...@panix.com> wrote:
I am of the school of Ibn Rashid.
John Wilkins
*Hemidactylus* <ecph...@hotmail.com> wrote:
And pizza poisonings...
William Morse
Firefox under Suse 10.2 had no problem with the photos.
Garamond Lethe
....who stalks the land with a dread, fell bibliography, which also has
fangs and horns.
Michael Siemon
Michael Siemon
John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
...
> > > No one who packs a drop bear in his backpack can be called friendly.
> > >
> > What's the body count up to now? Are the authorities still thinking they
> > are stray pit bull attacks?
> >
> And pizza poisonings...
Well, it was a _killer_ mint chutney...
*Hemidactylus*
wonder how Konqueror would do on my Kubuntu machine :-)
*Hemidactylus*
> In article<2009111014102216807-robertlcamp@hotmailcom>,
> Robert Camp<rober...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2009-11-09 23:11:03 -0800, Michael Siemon<mlsi...@sonic.net> said:
>>
>>> Some of us wasted a good part of Saturday hauling John Wilkins around
>>> San Francisco. I picked John up at his Berkeley Hotel and we met (after
>>> some delay for trains running along the main drag in Jack London Square)
>>> with Susan Silberstein and her cousin Tom Leibowitz. From there by ferry
>>> underneath the Bay Bridge to the SF Ferry Building where we gawked at a
>>> unicyclist and eyed the produce, thence to BART and deepest San Francisco
>>> (30th and Mission) for Zante's pizza, where we were met by John Harshman
>>> and Hamish Reid, and with a timely arrival of Cubist (Quentin Long)
>>> before the delivery of two large vegetarian Indian pizzas (sans
>>> cilantro), proceded to dispose of many of the world's problems. John H.
>>> left to try to find his wife while the rest of us returned to the Ferry
>>> Building and (all but Quentin, who went underground on his way back to
>>> San Jose) a return water excursion to Oakland.
>>>
>>> A small selection of photos may be found at:
>>>
>>> <http://www.greenerywest.net/Other/Pages/Wilkins_in__SF_-_2009.html>
>>
>> Yeah, yeah...Berkeley, howlers, ferry...we get it. Now let's get to the
>> important stuff.
>>
>> When are we going to hear more about the pizza?
>
> From the online menu:
>
> "Topped with Spinach, Egg Plant, Cauliflower, Ginger, Garlic, Green
>
> though we had them hold the cilantro to aid one of our number. The
> spinach, eggplant and cauliflower were intermixed small dabs of fairly
> standard Indian "curry" recipes with these ingredients. There was some,
> but not an overwhelming amount of, cheese to integrate the other stuff.
> They also had a spicy mint sauce/chutney and a sweet/tangy (and very
> purple!) tamarind sauce. Very interesting and a tasty alternative to
> standard pizzas; two large pies were rapidly consumed by the 7 of us.
>
spicy fish sauce. Mmmmmmm...
Walter Bushell
John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> While I was married I used to introduce my wife as my first wife until
> she stopped me. For some reason she found that annoying.
> >
Have you been checked for Asperger's Syndrome?
--
A computer without Microsoft is like a chocolate cake without mustard.
Walter Bushell
<mlsiemon-401464...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
Michael Siemon <mlsi...@sonic.net> wrote:
A new movie title, "The Revenge of the Killer Mint Chutney".
John Harshman
> In article <111120090802127904%jo...@wilkins.id.au>,
> John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>
>> While I was married I used to introduce my wife as my first wife until
>> she stopped me. For some reason she found that annoying.
>
> Have you been checked for Asperger's Syndrome?
>
Paul J Gans
I, on the other hand, would like to be of the school of Rashi:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashi
<quote>
Shlomo Yitzhaki, better known by the acronym Rashi (Rabbi Shlomo
Yitzhaki), (February 22, 1040 - July 13, 1105), was a medieval
French rabbi famed as the author of the first comprehensive
commentary on the Talmud, as well as a comprehensive commentary on
the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible).
Acclaimed for his ability to present the basic meaning of the text
in a concise yet lucid fashion, Rashi appeals to both learned scholars
and beginning students, and his works remain a centerpiece of
contemporary Jewish study
<end quote>
Ah lucidity, the unreachable goal of every pedant.
Paul J Gans
I dunno. Matt and I personally tried to ditch him in New York by
forcing him out of the car in some strange neighborhood. But it
didn't work. He turned up in Washington anyway.
How many Wilkins's are there?
Paul J Gans
Firefox 3.0.15 under Suse 11.1 did not show the photos. The
darned thing is five years old this week and is already creaky
with age.... ;-)
Paul J Gans
A bibliography with fangs and horns? That is fell indeed...
Paul J Gans
I suspect that the problem is a "feature" of later versions of Firefox.
Paul J Gans
Konqueror worked fine on my SUSE box.
Ye Old One
Ah! Retired! So now you have less free time than before :)
--
Bob.
Did you know that 1 in 4 people make up a quarter of the world's
population?
Michael Siemon
John Wilkins
<jhar...@pacbell.net> wrote:
Of being your first wife?
John Wilkins
<pr...@panix.com> wrote:
> In article <111120090802127904%jo...@wilkins.id.au>,
> John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>
> > While I was married I used to introduce my wife as my first wife until
> > she stopped me. For some reason she found that annoying.
> > >
>
> Have you been checked for Asperger's Syndrome?
Yes. Borderline. Quelle suprise.
John Wilkins
<ga...@panix.com> wrote:
Philosophy bites.
I was the only one in the cinema who burst out laughing during
Hannibal, when he is introduced as Dr Fell.
John Wilkins
<ga...@panix.com> wrote:
I am too lucid! It's just that you need to be an Arcturan to see how
clearly I express myself!
John Wilkins
<ga...@panix.com> wrote:
You need to check the dots under the eyelid to tell which clone you are
dealing with.
Susan S
>Michael Siemon wrote:
>
>> From the online menu:
>>
>> "Topped with Spinach, Egg Plant, Cauliflower, Ginger, Garlic, Green
>> Onions & Cilantro."
>>
>> though we had them hold the cilantro to aid one of our number.
>
>Cilantro? [google] Aha, coriander. Now I understand because I loathe the
>stuff too. Spoils any meal in which even small quantities are used for
>me. I do like the seeds.
The fresh herb, cilantro, and the seeds (spice), coriander, taste and
smell distinctly different. As I noted upthread, I can't abide the fresh
stuff, but do like the spice and use it in cooking.
Susan Silberstein
Susan S
<mlsi...@sonic.net>:
>In article <2009111014102216807-robertlcamp@hotmailcom>,
> Robert Camp <rober...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2009-11-09 23:11:03 -0800, Michael Siemon <mlsi...@sonic.net> said:
>>
>> > Some of us wasted a good part of Saturday hauling John Wilkins around
>> > San Francisco. I picked John up at his Berkeley Hotel and we met (after
>> > some delay for trains running along the main drag in Jack London Square)
>> > with Susan Silberstein and her cousin Tom Leibowitz. From there by ferry
>> > underneath the Bay Bridge to the SF Ferry Building where we gawked at a
>> > unicyclist and eyed the produce, thence to BART and deepest San Francisco
>> > (30th and Mission) for Zante's pizza, where we were met by John Harshman
>> > and Hamish Reid, and with a timely arrival of Cubist (Quentin Long)
>> > before the delivery of two large vegetarian Indian pizzas (sans
>> > cilantro), proceded to dispose of many of the world's problems. John H.
>> > left to try to find his wife while the rest of us returned to the Ferry
>> > Building and (all but Quentin, who went underground on his way back to
>> > San Jose) a return water excursion to Oakland.
>> >
>> > A small selection of photos may be found at:
>> >
>> > <http://www.greenerywest.net/Other/Pages/Wilkins_in__SF_-_2009.html>
>>
>> Yeah, yeah...Berkeley, howlers, ferry...we get it. Now let's get to the
>> important stuff.
>>
>> When are we going to hear more about the pizza?
>
>From the online menu:
>
> "Topped with Spinach, Egg Plant, Cauliflower, Ginger, Garlic, Green
>Onions & Cilantro."
>
>though we had them hold the cilantro to aid one of our number. The
>spinach, eggplant and cauliflower were intermixed small dabs of fairly
>standard Indian "curry" recipes with these ingredients. There was some,
>but not an overwhelming amount of, cheese to integrate the other stuff.
>They also had a spicy mint sauce/chutney and a sweet/tangy (and very
>purple!) tamarind sauce. Very interesting and a tasty alternative to
>standard pizzas; two large pies were rapidly consumed by the 7 of us.
Surrounded by voracious eaters, I ate two skinny slices.
Can't help it, but for me cilantro is just awful. I wish I liked it;
it's everywhere and people tell me it is yummy. They lie.
From the Wall Street Journal
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123446387388578461.html
Susan Silberstein
John Harshman
heekster
wrote:
Get your self anointed, and you'd be "Pedantry in Lotion"
>It's just that you need to be an Arcturan to see how
>clearly I express myself!
�Qu�?
*Hemidactylus*
I have loaded SUSE on a netbook, but the Gnome version. Worked great. I
was afraid KDE would lock it up.
Or did you install Konqueror in Gnome?
Have you tried compiz yet? That's my next step on a regular Tuxed
notebook that can handle it. The Borg cube 3D effects for choosing
Workspaces looked *really* cool when I saw it on someone's machine
running Ubuntu 9.04. Resistance is futile.
*Hemidactylus*
to. Did you come here to access the Defense Mainframe?
Tell Boomer she's a hottie.
*Hemidactylus*
> In talk.origins I read this message from nmp<add...@is.invalid>:
>
>> Michael Siemon wrote:
>>
>>> From the online menu:
>>>
>>> "Topped with Spinach, Egg Plant, Cauliflower, Ginger, Garlic, Green
>>>
>>> though we had them hold the cilantro to aid one of our number.
>>
>> Cilantro? [google] Aha, coriander. Now I understand because I loathe the
>> stuff too. Spoils any meal in which even small quantities are used for
>> me. I do like the seeds.
>
> The fresh herb, cilantro, and the seeds (spice), coriander, taste and
> smell distinctly different. As I noted upthread, I can't abide the fresh
> stuff, but do like the spice and use it in cooking.
>
>
notice no adverse effects, though I would prefer some meaty chunks of
habanero blended in for fun. I'm crazy like that :-)
William Morse
Mo. they just tell half truths. We keep recaito in the fridge because we
often cook with cilantro but don't use enough to justify buying it fresh
(unlike parsley). Dried cilantro, like dried parsley flakes, just
doesn't cut it. And while I also like coriander, I agree that it is a
totally different taste.
Now you probably like peas, which are anathema to me. I can only stand
them if they are dried, preferably flavored with wasabi. So we are
presumably susceptible to different plant toxins.
R. Baldwin
news:24nmf5t4msi4kgffr...@4ax.com:
'Aloe, must we be plagued by this thick-skinned erruption of gall? You'd
think he would be red in the face. It makes me sore.
*Hemidactylus*
interesting culinary challenge that would satisfy diehard fans of Man
vs. Food.
The wasabi nasal burn would kick in first and when your sinuses stop
sending severe pain impulses to your brain the capsaicin would hit your
esophagus hard and simulate the feeling of a major heart attack. I would
buy that sauce ("Dave's Uberinsanity Sauce?").
Seriously wasabi and habanero is like peanut butter and chocolate for
the culinary daredevils amongst us. Or would the mixture be a CIA
torture tool or WMD?
Paul J Gans
>Exactly!
Which is why I refuse to retire.
Paul J Gans
>Yes. Borderline. Quelle suprise.
As is true of many, if not most who pursue various intellectual
pursuits.
Paul J Gans
Just like the Hersheyies.
Hey, wait a minute!...
Paul J Gans
And how many degrees of an Arcturan do you subtend?
Paul J Gans
I have a cousin who is made deathly ill by cilantro. It has no
such effect on me at all. I rather like it.
Paul J Gans
I run SUSE KDE. I run Ubuntu on two laptops, one ancient, the other
mearly old. I didn't try those on the web page.
>Have you tried compiz yet? That's my next step on a regular Tuxed
>notebook that can handle it. The Borg cube 3D effects for choosing
>Workspaces looked *really* cool when I saw it on someone's machine
>running Ubuntu 9.04. Resistance is futile.
I've not tried compiz.
Walter Bushell
John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> In article <proto-2ACA84....@news.panix.com>, Walter Bushell
> <pr...@panix.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <111120090802127904%jo...@wilkins.id.au>,
> > John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> >
> > > While I was married I used to introduce my wife as my first wife until
> > > she stopped me. For some reason she found that annoying.
> > > >
> >
> > Have you been checked for Asperger's Syndrome?
>
> Yes. Borderline. Quelle suprise.
No surprise at all after what you introduced your first wife as when you
were still married. Even I who has been accused of the trait could see
that would go over like a pregnant pole vaulter.
--
A computer without Microsoft is like a chocolate cake without mustard.
Walter Bushell
Susan S <otoerem...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
How can you argue about taste? Especially on a physical level?
It is well known, today, that people taste the same substances
differently. Some people can taste some chemicals and others not.
But this was proverbial long before science got there.
John Wilkins
<jhar...@pacbell.net> wrote:
See, now *that's* an Aspie response :-)
My son is Aspie, and I probably am too, which is why I enjoy meeting
you occasionally.
John Wilkins
<ga...@panix.com> wrote:
That struck a chord, I see.
John Wilkins
<ga...@panix.com> wrote:
Nearly all philosophers, and every mathematician that has ever lived.
John Harshman
> In article <h5edncJVZM8...@giganews.com>, John Harshman
> <jhar...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> John Wilkins wrote:
>>> In article <R92dnUvzwa4...@giganews.com>, John Harshman
>>> <jhar...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Walter Bushell wrote:
>>>>> In article <111120090802127904%jo...@wilkins.id.au>,
>>>>> John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> While I was married I used to introduce my wife as my first wife until
>>>>>> she stopped me. For some reason she found that annoying.
>>>>> Have you been checked for Asperger's Syndrome?
>>>>>
>>>> Dunno about Wilkins, but my wife constantly accuses me of that.
>>>>
>>> Of being your first wife?
>>>
>> No, the Asperger's thing.
>>
> See, now *that's* an Aspie response :-)
>
> My son is Aspie, and I probably am too, which is why I enjoy meeting
> you occasionally.
>
Mitchell Coffey
> In article <h5edncJVZM8Dq2bX4p2d...@giganews.com>, John Harshman> > > In article <R92dnUvzwa4wdWfXRVn_...@giganews.com>, John Harshman> > >>> In article <111120090802127904%j...@wilkins.id.au>,
> > >>> John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>
> > >>>> While I was married I used to introduce my wife as my first wife until
> > >>>> she stopped me. For some reason she found that annoying.
> > >>> Have you been checked for Asperger's Syndrome?
>
> > >> Dunno about Wilkins, but my wife constantly accuses me of that.
>
> > > Of being your first wife?
>
> > No, the Asperger's thing.
>
> See, now *that's* an Aspie response :-)
It's also a mean/normal response.
> My son is Aspie, and I probably am too, which is why I enjoy meeting
> you occasionally.
During your visit I noted nothing "Aspie" in your behavior that could
not have been equally explained by a lifetime in pursuits wherein
mildly eccentric standards regarding hours, dress, conduct, speech and
interior decoration were seen as evidence of genius.
On a possibly related point, I noted that unlike an Oxbridge accent,
yours would go over equally well in this country as the emanation of a
nuclear physicist and a mob enforcer, a flexible portmanteau quality
that I'm sure could serve to get you out of all sorts of situations -
academic, bureaucratic, economic, romantic.
Also, have you seen this:
Mitchell
Mitchell Coffey
> In talk.origins I read this message from Michael Siemon
>
>
>
> >In article <2009111014102216807-robertlcamp@hotmailcom>,
> > Robert Camp <robertlc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Prior to this sub-thread it hadn't occurred to me anyone anywhere had
strong feeling about cilantro. What are your thoughts in re
cardamom? I'm been using it to great effect where one would not
expect it, as Wilkins has experienced, without knowing it. [John:
that lamb, cardamom found a good home in the marinade.]
Mitchell Coffey
Paul J Gans
>In article <hdg14k$2gv$5...@reader1.panix.com>, Paul J Gans
><ga...@panix.com> wrote:
>> John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>> >In article <proto-2ACA84....@news.panix.com>, Walter Bushell
>> ><pr...@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> In article <111120090802127904%jo...@wilkins.id.au>,
>> >> John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > While I was married I used to introduce my wife as my first wife until
>> >> > she stopped me. For some reason she found that annoying.
>> >> > >
>> >>
>> >> Have you been checked for Asperger's Syndrome?
>>
>> >Yes. Borderline. Quelle suprise.
>>
>> As is true of many, if not most who pursue various intellectual
>> pursuits.
>Nearly all philosophers, and every mathematician that has ever lived.
And most physicists as well. Chemists seem to be more resistant
somehow, but a fair number there as well.
Long before Asperger became well-known, it was often said that folks
went into science because they got along better with things than
with people. I know this is true of me because no beaker ever
complained that I ignored it or forgot its birthday.
Michael Siemon
nmp <add...@is.invalid> wrote:
> Susan S wrote:
>
> > In talk.origins I read this message from nmp <add...@is.invalid>:
> >
> >>Michael Siemon wrote:
> >>
> >>> From the online menu:
> >>>
> >>> "Topped with Spinach, Egg Plant, Cauliflower, Ginger, Garlic, Green
> >>> Onions & Cilantro."
> >>>
> >>> though we had them hold the cilantro to aid one of our number.
> >>
> >>Cilantro? [google] Aha, coriander. Now I understand because I loathe the
> >>stuff too. Spoils any meal in which even small quantities are used for
> >>me. I do like the seeds.
> >
> > The fresh herb, cilantro, and the seeds (spice), coriander, taste and
> > smell distinctly different.
>
> I know, I had just never heard of "cilantro". It is not a word we use
> where I live, which would be roughly the other side of the planet from
> where you are... ;)
That is the name usually used in Mexican cooking. I don't know the
etymology (the herb's botanical name is _ Coriandrum sativum_, and
it is known with something close to that name in Mycenaean Greek
(_koriadnon_ -> classical Greek _koriannon_ -> Latin _coriandrum_),
according to Wikipedia. I have had the reverse problem here of calling
it coriander and having to explain to puzzled listeners that that is
the same as cilantro.
> > As I noted upthread, I can't abide the fresh stuff, but do like the
> > spice and use it in cooking.
>
> I am exactly the same. Even a tiny amount of what you call "cilantro" in
> a dish will render it inedible to me. It has an overwhelming, sort of
> chemical taste that is absolutely sickening.
>
> The spice is known here mostly by its Indonesian name of "ketoembar". The
> Dutch name would just be some translation of "ground coriander" or
> "coriander seeds" and the herb is just "coriander". But with a "k", of
> course.
There appears to be a genetic basis for some folks' distaste for the
herb. It's a shame because for those of us who _don't_ think it tastes
like soap (or worse!) it is an almost addictively delightful component
of cuisines from SE Asia (I think I first encoutered it in Malaysia),
through the Indian subcontinent to the Middle East, Mediterranean and
thence to the Americas. It appears to be native to lands bordering the
Mediterranean.
John McKendry
> Mitchell Coffey wrote:
>> On Nov 11, 5:09 pm, Susan S <otoeremovet...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> [..]
>
>>> Can't help it, but for me cilantro is just awful. I wish I liked it;
>>> it's everywhere and people tell me it is yummy. They lie.
>>>
>>> From the Wall Street
>>> Journalhttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB123446387388578461.html
>>>
>>> Susan Silberstein
>>
>> Prior to this sub-thread it hadn't occurred to me anyone anywhere had
>> strong feeling about cilantro.
>
> Susan seems to have the same thing with the coriander herb as I have.
> And I don't think it is a matter of particularly strong feelings, but
> rather of a very real physical repulsion. Wikipedia says it is genetic.
> We don't even have the option of liking it or disliking it, the stuff is
> just inedible.
>
> An explanation could be that people who have the gene are able to
> recognise it for the vile and noxious weed it is ;)
>
Pah. Typical Darwinianist doublethink. Cilantro tastes terrible?
Science can explain that: it's because of genes. Cilantro tastes
wonderful? Science has an explanation for that, too: it's because
of genes. Open your eyes and look at what you're saying, for pete's
sake. Two diametrically opposite conclusions, and each one is
a prediction of evolutionism. Now tell me again how evolutionism
is falsificationable, as required by the scientific method.
I think this proves that evolutionism is false, and God exists.
John
Mitchell Coffey
Why does God want Susan nauseated by cilantro and desires that I
delight in it?
Mitchell Coffey
John McKendry
I have to admit that struck me as a little odd; I would have expected
it to be the other way around. Mysterious are the ways of the Lord,
is all I can tell you.
John
John Wilkins
<26de1e25-da4b-4a8e...@t2g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
Mitchell Coffey <m.co...@starpower.net> wrote:
In a profession populated by Aspergers people...
>
> On a possibly related point, I noted that unlike an Oxbridge accent,
> yours would go over equally well in this country as the emanation of a
> nuclear physicist and a mob enforcer, a flexible portmanteau quality
> that I'm sure could serve to get you out of all sorts of situations -
> academic, bureaucratic, economic, romantic.
As in "Nice hypotesis youse got dere. Be a shame if sumtin were to
happen to it."?
>
> Also, have you seen this:
>
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/10/opinion/10baron-cohen.html?_r=1&sq=simon%20b
> aron-cohen&st=cse&adxnnl=1&scp=1&adxnnlx=1258041771-ppDO36mKclcm3jRpr5FgdA
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ygz9exq
>
Thanks. I agree with Baron-Cohen. It is clearly a distinct syndrome,
and most likely has a distinct etiology.
John Wilkins
<jhar...@pacbell.net> wrote:
Not to *anyone* with that amount of white hair, no.
John Wilkins
<jlas...@comcast.dot.net> wrote:
You missed the point that this is because of a failure to understand
freedom; in this case the freedom to season or not to season.
John Wilkins
<ga...@panix.com> wrote:
Also, computers are things that treat *you* like a person, so you got
the best of both worlds back in the 80s, being in science where there
were computers.
Mitchell Coffey
> In article <7m33meF3euq8...@mid.individual.net>, John McKendry
To everything there is a season. A thyme to...
Mitchell
Mitchell Coffey
>
> >> >> > While I was married I used to introduce my wife as my first wife until
> >> >> > she stopped me. For some reason she found that annoying.
>
> >> >> Have you been checked for Asperger's Syndrome?
>
> >> >Yes. Borderline. Quelle suprise.
>
> >> As is true of many, if not most who pursue various intellectual
> >> pursuits.
> >Nearly all philosophers, and every mathematician that has ever lived.
>
> And most physicists as well. Chemists seem to be more resistant
> somehow, but a fair number there as well.
>
> Long before Asperger became well-known, it was often said that folks
> went into science because they got along better with things than
> with people. I know this is true of me because no beaker ever
> complained that I ignored it or forgot its birthday.
Depends what you cook up in the beaker, Paul.
Mitchell