Senator Lists Creationists as Prominent Scientists in Global
Jason Spaceman
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A Southern Baptist creationist without a college degree is listed as one
of the 700 prominent scientists who object to the statement that the
scientific community has reached a consensus about man-made global
warming.
Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.) issued a report that said, “Over 700
dissenting scientists … from around the globe challenged man-made global
warming claims made by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on
Climate Change (IPCC) and former Vice President Al Gore.”
Calling it a “groundbreaking report,” the document said, “The over 700
dissenting scientists are more than 13 times the number of UN scientists
(52) who authored the media-hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for Policymakers.”
“This Senate report is not a ‘list’ of scientists, but a report that
includes full biographies of each scientist and their quotes, papers and
links for further reading,” said the document, dated March 2009. “The
distinguished scientists featured in this new report are experts in
diverse fields.”
One of the listed prominent scientists is Chris Allen, who holds no
college degree, believes in creationism and belongs to a Southern Baptist
church.
Allen is a weatherman at the FOX-affiliated TV station in Bowling Green,
Ky.. . .
.. . .One without credentials in climate science is a professor emeritus
at the University of Oklahoma: Edward Blick, a former professor of
engineering.
The earth “couldn’t be more than 10,000 years old,” wrote Blick in a
January 2007 column that appeared in the Norman Transcript. “Since
evolution has never been proved scientifically, it must be believed by
faith.”
Supporting Ben Stein’s film, which pushed intelligent design as science,
Blick wrote on the film’s Web site about a Baptist university that
refused to teach biblical creationism in favor of evolution. Blick said
evolution was “the Devils [sic] theology.”
Blick signed a statement opposing Darwin’s theory of evolution sponsored
by the Discovery Institute, a creationist organization, and is listed as
a scientist with the Institute of Creation Research.
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J. Spaceman
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'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank
wrote:
Ever read "100 Scientists Against Einstein?
(yawn)
Why are the fundies so much in love with these utterly meaningless
"petitions" . . . . ?
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Lenny Flank
"There are no loose threads in the web of life"
Editor, Red and Black Publishers
http://www.RedandBlackPublishers.com
Robert Carnegie
inappropriate name on the list. But I haven't relied on his
forecasts, have I? Still, usually there are dentists, there are real
estate salesmen...
Frank J
Alas, most people fall for the American stereotype that scientists
must be either infallible or evil. But scientists are human, and like
any group, small % will sell out to almost anything if the price
(cash, ego boost) is right. If anything, it's a sign of the unusually
high integrity among scientists that <1% (mostly non-biologists) would
sign even a hopelessly vague "Dissent from 'Darwinism'" statement.
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> (yawn)
>
> Why are the fundies so much in love with these utterly meaningless
> "petitions" . . . . ?
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> Lenny Flank
> "There are no loose threads in the web of life"
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Andre Lieven
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> A Southern Baptist creationist without a college degree is listed as one
> of the 700 prominent scientists who object to the statement that the
> scientific community has reached a consensus about man-made global
> warming.
>
> Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.) issued a report that said, “Over 700
> dissenting scientists … from around the globe challenged man-made global
> warming claims made by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on
> Climate Change (IPCC) and former Vice President Al Gore.”
As soon as one sees Inhofe's name connected with it, one can be sure
that what will come is pure ignorant stupidity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Inhofe
Inhofe, former chairman of the Senate Committee on Environment and
Public Works, is a strong critic of the scientific consensus that
climate
change is occurring as a result of human activities. In a July 28,
2003,
Senate speech, Inhofe claimed to offer "compelling evidence that
catastrophic global warming is a hoax. That conclusion is supported
by the painstaking work of the nation's top climate scientists."[13]
He
cited as support for this the 1992 Heidelberg Appeal and the Oregon
Petition (1999), as well the opinions of individual scientists that
he
named (although most climate scientists, as represented by the
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), now believe that
climate change is an existing phenomenon). In his speech, Inhofe
also claimed that, "satellite data, confirmed by NOAA balloon
measurements, confirms that no meaningful warming has occurred
over the last century."[14] However the satellite temperature record
corroborates the well-documented warming trend noted in surface
temperature measurements.[15] Additionally, the satellite record
begins in 1979 and the balloon record effectively in 1958, so it is
unclear what Inhofe means by "last century". Inhofe's views have
been opposed by climate scientists.[16]
In a 2006 interview with the Tulsa World newspaper, Inhofe said
regarding the environmentalist movement, "It kind of reminds...
I could use the Third Reich, the Big Lie... You say something
over and over and over and over again, and people will believe it,
and that's their [the environmentalists'] strategy... A hot
summer has nothing to do with global warming. Let's keep in
mind it was just three weeks ago that people were saying, '
Wait a minute; it is unusually cool...." He then said,
"Everything on which they [the environmentalists] based their
story, in terms of the facts, has been refuted scientifically."
[17] Inhofe had previously compared the United States
Environmental Protection Agency to the Gestapo[18] and he
compared EPA Administrator Carol Browner to Tokyo Rose.
[19] He had also made allegations that the Weather
Channel is behind the alleged global warming hoax, so as to
attract viewers.[20][21] Inhofe had previously claimed that
Global Warming is "the second-largest hoax ever played on
the American people, after the separation of church and
state."[22]
Inhofe, claiming uncertainties related to climate science
and the adverse impact that mandatory emissions reductions
would have on the U.S. economy, voted on June 22, 2005 to
reject an amendment to an energy bill that would have forced
reductions in emissions of greenhouse gases and created a
mandatory emissions trading scheme. "Global warming is
still considered to be a theory and has not come close to
being sufficiently proven", he said.[citation needed]
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So, Inhofe is a [M]adman class willfully ignorant lunatic.
Anyone who has voted for this moron needs serious
professional mental health care.
Oh, he's also corrupt:
"Inhofe added language to the Water Resources
Development Act that authorized the Corps to enter into
"innovative programs" involving "creative management
strategies that optimize recreational activities" at
underdeveloped Corps lakes in Oklahoma. The Corps
then leased development rights at Skiatook Lake in
Osage County to the Skiatook Economic Development
Authority for 50 years at no cost. SEDA then
subleased the property, again at zero cost, to
StateSource LLC, owned by Inhofe's former campaign
director Ronald Howell. Howell, a former executive
with Koch Industries, is active in the Oklahoma
Republican Party and conservative causes. [27] As
of 2007, Howell's firm had invested over $8 million in
developments at Lake Skiatook. [28]"
There's a deal that Ken Starr should have investigated.
Andre
Dick C.
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Typically, one of the most prominent areas seems to be in Material
handling.
--
Dick #1349
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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[M]adman
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>scientists must be either infallible or evil.
[\\]
Well, that sums it up nicely.
Boikat
It's nice to see confirmation that your head is firmly lodged up your
ass, and that you ignored "Alas, most people fall for the American
stereotype... " for your typical, dishonest and childish, cheap shot.
Boikat
Louann Miller
$49ef9d49$4c0a95d0$18...@TEKSAVVY.COM:
> Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.)
(in the voice of Adam Savage)
THERE'S your problem right there!
Desertphile
<notr...@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
> From the article:
> The distinguished scientists featured in this new report are experts in
> diverse fields."
"... except climatology."
--
http://desertphile.org
Desertphile's Desert Soliloquy. WARNING: view with plenty of water
"Why aren't resurrections from the dead noteworthy?" -- Jim Rutz
John O)))
Because according to their world view, whichever viewpoint is held by
the majority MUST be fact. After all, 90% of people believe in God.
Are you going to tell them they are wrong?
This "petitioning" is quite telling of the Fundies misunderstanding of
how science works. If they really want to prove Creationism, then get
out and do some actual research. Don't just find a bunch of people
that agree with you.
Louann Miller
96c1fa...@e23g2000vbe.googlegroups.com:
> This "petitioning" is quite telling of the Fundies misunderstanding of
> how science works. If they really want to prove Creationism, then get
> out and do some actual research. Don't just find a bunch of people
> that agree with you.
I keep expecting them to demand a vote on whether smoking causes lung
cancer. In the expectation that if the "no" side wins, millions of cases of
cancer will disappear poof in a puff of logic.
Frank J
Snipping the context that any lurker can see. It may be cheap, but it
might well send more fence-sitting lurkers to ours side than the
average POTM.
'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank
Or, as Einstein put it so wonderfully upon being shown a copy of the
Nazi tome "100 Scientists Against Einstein" -----"if the theory were
really wrong, just one scientist would suffice".
'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank
wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:42:17 +0000, Jason Spaceman
>
> > From the article:
> > The distinguished scientists featured in this new report are experts in
> > diverse fields."
>
> "... except climatology."
I wonder how many of them are named "Steve" . . . . . . . .
(snicker) (giggle)
Stuart
> On Apr 23, 1:05 pm, Desertphile <desertph...@invalid-address.net>
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:42:17 +0000, Jason Spaceman
>
> > <notrea...@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
> > > From the article:
> > > The distinguished scientists featured in this new report are experts in
> > > diverse fields."
>
> > "... except climatology."
>
> I wonder how many of them are named "Steve" . . . . . . . .
>
> (snicker) (giggle)
>
Stuart
'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank
I'd expect the overlap to be quite noticeable, actually. The diehard
lunatic "conservatives" are, after all, a very small proportion of the
US population . . ..
And indeed creationists do tend to have other idiotic pet peeves --
Hovind and his anti-tax rants, Johnson and his "HIV doesn't cause
AIDS" horse shit, Ross and his "flying saucers come from the Devil"
idiocy, and the ICR-ers and their "let's find Noah's Ark" fantasies.
eyele...@gmail.com
> On Apr 23, 1:05 pm, Desertphile <desertph...@invalid-address.net>
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:42:17 +0000, Jason Spaceman
>
> > <notrea...@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
> > > From the article:
> > > The distinguished scientists featured in this new report are experts in
> > > diverse fields."
>
> > "... except climatology."
>
> I wonder how many of them are named "Steve" . . . . . . . .
>
> (snicker) (giggle)
Actually, I was just thinking, when reading the original article, that
we need a Project Steve for global climate change: collect signatories
with a relatively common name who agree that climate change is
happening, a significant portion (at least) of it is man-made, and it
represents a major threat to the ecosystem.
eyelessgame
Robert Carnegie
I think the catch is that scientists who understand the climate issue
well enough to sign their own name to that are fewer in number. The
theory of evolution is basically simpler, and has been around for a
lot longer. Also, you stated the climate change question in three
parts, and you left out the threat to human property (most harbour/
port cities are essentially at sea level) and prosperity. We've known
since the dodo and the passenger pigeon that we are wiping out species
from the world /without/ counting climate change and we don't
generally care so much.
Klaus Hellnick
Unfortunately, many such people can be found at NASA, now.
NASA TV programs are now proclaiming nonsense like "Human CO2 emissions
are THE major cause of global warming". I admit that the previous
administration had downplayed some evidence of global warming, but this
administration has gone to the other extreme.
Klaus
'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank
wrote:
Perhaps you could tell us what YOU think is THE major cause of global
warming . . . ?
Oh, and I'm still waiting to hear your free-market solution to the
current economic meltdown . . . .?
Robert Carnegie
You're talking about NASA, which operates more environmentally
unfriendly flights, per passenger, than any other organisation. On
the other hand, they're also /the/ people to ask what the whole planet
looks like, since from their unusustainable space platforms they get
the best view. And they say it looks like it's all stunk up with
CO2. You heard less about this for a while because President Bush put
a guy in charge with specific instructions to not say anything that
the president didn't want you to hear, such as what all the scientists
think about the way it sounds when he tries to say "nuclear".
'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank
> Klaus Hellnick wrote:
Usually the global warming deniers try to babble something about "the
sun is getting warmer".
Odd, isn't it, that no astronomers seem to have noticed that, though,
given that the sun is probably THE most-studied object in the solar
system . . . . .
You'd think that NASA might have noticed it . . . .