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UC

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Nov 8, 2006, 12:16:09 PM11/8/06
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Does anyone know whether dinos had pee-pees? By the way, how do birds
get along without them?

Conspiracy of Doves

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Nov 8, 2006, 12:34:03 PM11/8/06
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UC wrote:
> Does anyone know whether dinos had pee-pees? By the way, how do birds
> get along without them?

Unfortunately, soft tissue like that in the penis doesn't fossilize, do
that is a hard question to answer about dinosaurs.

As for birds, click here and scroll down to the part about reproduction

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_anatomy

Matt

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Nov 8, 2006, 12:34:26 PM11/8/06
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UC wrote:
> Does anyone know whether dinos had pee-pees? By the way, how do birds
> get along without them?

I don't know how Dinosaurs reproduced, but here's some info on bird
reproduction:

http://www-biol.paisley.ac.uk/courses/tatner/biomedia/units/bird9.htm

I would imagine it was somewhat similar, but again I don't know.

Matt

Matt

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Nov 8, 2006, 12:34:39 PM11/8/06
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UC wrote:
> Does anyone know whether dinos had pee-pees? By the way, how do birds
> get along without them?

I don't know how Dinosaurs reproduced, but here's some info on bird

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Desertphile

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Nov 8, 2006, 1:54:03 PM11/8/06
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UC wrote:
> Does anyone know whether dinos had pee-pees? By the way, how do birds
> get along without them?


What the fuck are "pee-pees?"

Perplexed in Peoria

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"Desertphile" <desert...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1163012043.4...@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...

It is a technical term in semiotics.

DJT

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Nov 8, 2006, 2:27:15 PM11/8/06
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UC wrote:
> Does anyone know whether dinos had pee-pees?

No, they did not. Dinosaurs were way too cool to speak in babytalk.

> By the way, how do birds
> get along without them?

Ask the female portion of our audience....


DJT

Wakboth

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Nov 8, 2006, 2:51:28 PM11/8/06
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UC kirjoitti:

> Does anyone know whether dinos had pee-pees? By the way, how do birds
> get along without them?

Job 40: 15 "Look at the behemoth,
which I made along with you
and which feeds on grass like an ox.

16 What strength he has in his loins,
what power in the muscles of his belly!

17 His tail sways like a cedar;
the sinews of his thighs are close-knit.

18 His bones are tubes of bronze,
his limbs like rods of iron. "

-- Wakboth

er...@swva.net

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Nov 8, 2006, 4:51:48 PM11/8/06
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UC wrote:
> Does anyone know whether dinos had pee-pees? By the way, how do birds
> get along without them?

Don't they press their cloacas together? Oh, wait, I thought you said
"creationists."

Eric Root

John Harshman

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Nov 8, 2006, 5:50:25 PM11/8/06
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UC wrote:

> Does anyone know whether dinos had pee-pees? By the way, how do birds
> get along without them?
>

I believe there's a scientific term for "pee-pee", which you might have
used. No, nobody knows. Some birds have penises, some don't. It's
ambiguous whether presence is primitive or derived, or both in different
groups. So we know nothing about other dinosaurs. Birds get along OK
(the ones that don't have penises), by putting their cloacas together.

Toni Keskitalo

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Nov 8, 2006, 6:06:34 PM11/8/06
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Nominated in the "Dirty and dirtier talk" category:

Subject: Dinosaur reproduction

Toni

Puppet_Sock

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Nov 8, 2006, 6:28:19 PM11/8/06
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I've seen no sign of that.
Socks

Perplexed in Peoria

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"Puppet_Sock" <puppe...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1163028499.6...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

No big thing.

Grandbank

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Nov 8, 2006, 8:58:00 PM11/8/06
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Silly boys.

The desired answer is "Yeah, dinosaurs had giant dinosaur-sized wangs,
yeeeehaaaa!"

To which the obvious response is "Well then birds must not be dinosaurs
because they don't."

KP

John Harshman

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Nov 8, 2006, 9:45:36 PM11/8/06
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The main problem with that is that it's wrong. Some birds have penises
longer than the rest of their bodies.

And I just learned today (coincidentally) that ostriches use theirs in
courtship displays. Sorry, no video.

McCracken, K. G. 2000. The 20-cm spiny penis of the Argentine Lake Duck
(Oxyura vittata). Auk 117:820-825.

Davies, S. J. J. F. 2002. Ratites and tinamous: Tinamidae, Rheidae,
Dromaiidae, Casuariidae, Apterygidae, Struthionidae. Oxford U. Press,
Oxford.

Tedd Jacobs

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Nov 9, 2006, 12:44:28 AM11/9/06
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"Perplexed in Peoria" wrote...

except in geertzian circles.


Perplexed in Peoria

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Nov 9, 2006, 1:12:26 AM11/9/06
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"Tedd Jacobs" <TJa...@mail.boisestate.edu> wrote in message news:eiuf8...@enews4.newsguy.com...

In an attempt to find out what 'geertzian' means, I tried Google.
And got this charming hit:

College Student Life ». « Girl Gadgets · Geertzian.

So does this signify that 'Girl Gadgets' are the favored
Geertzian substitute for pee-pees in modern college student
life?

rmj

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"John Harshman" <jharshman....@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> Grandbank wrote:
>> Silly boys.
>>
>> The desired answer is "Yeah, dinosaurs had giant dinosaur-sized wangs,
>> yeeeehaaaa!"
>>
>> To which the obvious response is "Well then birds must not be dinosaurs
>> because they don't."
>
> The main problem with that is that it's wrong. Some birds have penises
> longer than the rest of their bodies.
>
> And I just learned today (coincidentally) that ostriches use theirs in
> courtship displays. Sorry, no video.

Now there's a question. Why is penis flashing as a means of courtship rare?

>
> McCracken, K. G. 2000. The 20-cm spiny penis of the Argentine Lake Duck
> (Oxyura vittata). Auk 117:820-825.

That would make TRex's how long? Fifty feet?

Tedd Jacobs

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Nov 9, 2006, 1:41:12 AM11/9/06
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"Perplexed in Peoria" wrote...

maybe thats what clifford really ment by 'deep structure'.

--
joking aside, RIP, C. J. Geertz, 8/23/26-10/30/06.


Iain

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Nov 9, 2006, 2:22:59 AM11/9/06
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UC wrote:
> Does anyone know whether dinos had pee-pees? By the way, how do birds
> get along without them?

I advise that you study the scene in Jurassic Park when then
velociraptor (utahraptor really) bangs its head against the kitchen
cabinet and we get a good look at its crotch as the wee girl crawls
away.

~Iain (pervorak)

Richard Forrest

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Nov 9, 2006, 3:45:55 AM11/9/06
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In birds, the "penis" is not homologous with the penis in mammals. The
pseudo-penis of Ostriches is an everted cloaca. I read in Wikipedia
that some birds have a true penis, but this seems unlikely given the
anatomical and metabolic differences between birds and mammals.


RF

Jenny Brien

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On Nov 9, 6:24 am, "rmj" <gle...@jps.net> wrote:

> > And I just learned today (coincidentally) that ostriches use theirs in

> > courtship displays. Sorry, no video.Now there's a question. Why is penis flashing as a means of courtship rare?

So THAT's what you were trying to do?

UC

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Nov 9, 2006, 9:36:42 AM11/9/06
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Seems kind of primitive, right?

UC

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Nov 9, 2006, 9:37:17 AM11/9/06
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Goes with q-q's.

UC

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Nov 9, 2006, 9:39:38 AM11/9/06
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Do ANY non-mammalians have true penes?
>
>
> RF

Iain

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UC wrote:

> Does anyone know whether dinos had pee-pees? By the way, how do birds
> get along without them?

Oscar Wilde once said: If you had never farted, you would be floating.

~Iain

John Harshman

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Nov 9, 2006, 10:50:21 AM11/9/06
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Richard Forrest wrote:

I doubt any bird penis is homologous to the mammalian penis. There may
be some homology to some reptile penises. Or not. However, you can't
evert a cloaca. You can evert a pouch in the cloacal wall if you like.
Define "true penis". Do true Scotsmen have them?

Iain

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Nov 9, 2006, 1:44:05 PM11/9/06
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John Harshman wrote:

Mine is the prototypical Scottish willie.

~Iain

Richard Forrest

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Englishman: Is there anything worn under the kilt?
Scotsman: No, it's all in very good condition.

RF

Andrew Arensburger

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nmp <add...@is.invalid> wrote:
> <http://www.straightdope.com/columns/001006.html>

In case anyone's curious, the illustration mentioned in that
article appears to be this one:

http://www.luisrey.ndtilda.co.uk/html/carnsex.htm

--
Andrew Arensburger, Systems guy University of Maryland
arensb.no-...@umd.edu Office of Information Technology
Life is a whim of several billion cells to be you for a while.

Shane

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Nov 9, 2006, 5:34:49 PM11/9/06
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On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 06:24:48 GMT, rmj wrote:

> "John Harshman" <jharshman....@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:kDw4h.2920$IR4....@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>> Grandbank wrote:
>>> Silly boys.
>>>
>>> The desired answer is "Yeah, dinosaurs had giant dinosaur-sized wangs,
>>> yeeeehaaaa!"
>>>
>>> To which the obvious response is "Well then birds must not be dinosaurs
>>> because they don't."
>>
>> The main problem with that is that it's wrong. Some birds have penises
>> longer than the rest of their bodies.
>>
>> And I just learned today (coincidentally) that ostriches use theirs in
>> courtship displays. Sorry, no video.
>
> Now there's a question. Why is penis flashing as a means of courtship rare?

Too much laughter kills romance.

Shane

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Nov 9, 2006, 5:45:14 PM11/9/06
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On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 06:24:48 GMT, rmj wrote:

> "John Harshman" <jharshman....@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:kDw4h.2920$IR4....@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>> Grandbank wrote:
>>> Silly boys.
>>>
>>> The desired answer is "Yeah, dinosaurs had giant dinosaur-sized wangs,
>>> yeeeehaaaa!"
>>>
>>> To which the obvious response is "Well then birds must not be dinosaurs
>>> because they don't."
>>
>> The main problem with that is that it's wrong. Some birds have penises
>> longer than the rest of their bodies.
>>
>> And I just learned today (coincidentally) that ostriches use theirs in
>> courtship displays. Sorry, no video.
>
> Now there's a question. Why is penis flashing as a means of courtship rare?

Nine words a man will never hear;
"My, that's a good looking scrotum you have there."

Gerry Murphy

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8-} I suppose he might hear it from his vasectomist.


John Wilkins

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UC <uraniumc...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Obviously works for them. There's a few more birds than mammals...
--
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University of Queensland - Blog: scienceblogs.com/evolvingthoughts
"He used... sarcasm. He knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor,
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John Wilkins

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Nov 10, 2006, 1:29:44 AM11/10/06
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Richard Forrest <ric...@plesiosaur.com> wrote:

I prefer the Spike Milligan version:

"Nae, it's all in perrfect condition!"

John Wilkins

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UC <uraniumc...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Puppet_Sock wrote:
> > Perplexed in Peoria wrote:

> > > "Desertphile" <desert...@hotmail.com> wrote...


> > > > UC wrote:
> > > > > Does anyone know whether dinos had pee-pees? By the way, how do birds
> > > > > get along without them?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What the fuck are "pee-pees?"
> > >
> > > It is a technical term in semiotics.
> >
> > I've seen no sign of that.
> > Socks
>
> Goes with q-q's.

Once, in a technical talk with many p's and q's interspersed in the
logic, I asked about the "p-ness". The laughter indicated something I
hadn't considered before asking...

Richard Forrest

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Yes, but I can't do a convincing Scottish accent.

RF

Walter Bushell

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Nov 10, 2006, 9:53:04 AM11/10/06
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In article <1hojn9m.tfjmju11zffg6N%j.wil...@uq.edu.au>,
j.wil...@uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote:

> UC <uraniumc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > John Harshman wrote:
> > > UC wrote:
> > >
> > > > Does anyone know whether dinos had pee-pees? By the way, how do birds
> > > > get along without them?
> > > >
> > > I believe there's a scientific term for "pee-pee", which you might have
> > > used. No, nobody knows. Some birds have penises, some don't. It's
> > > ambiguous whether presence is primitive or derived, or both in different
> > > groups. So we know nothing about other dinosaurs. Birds get along OK
> > > (the ones that don't have penises), by putting their cloacas together.
> >
> > Seems kind of primitive, right?
>
> Obviously works for them. There's a few more birds than mammals...

But no bird is an endangering species.

--
Divided we stand!

Andrew Arensburger

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Nov 10, 2006, 10:52:12 AM11/10/06
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Richard Forrest <ric...@plesiosaur.com> wrote:

> John Wilkins wrote:
> > I prefer the Spike Milligan version:
> >
> > "Nae, it's all in perrfect condition!"

> Yes, but I can't do a convincing Scottish accent.

Fortunately, in a written medium you can just use the
<accent>...</accent> tags and let the machine do it for you.

--
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John Wilkins wrote:
> UC <uraniumc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > John Harshman wrote:
> > > UC wrote:
> > >
> > > > Does anyone know whether dinos had pee-pees? By the way, how do birds
> > > > get along without them?
> > > >
> > > I believe there's a scientific term for "pee-pee", which you might have
> > > used. No, nobody knows. Some birds have penises, some don't. It's
> > > ambiguous whether presence is primitive or derived, or both in different
> > > groups. So we know nothing about other dinosaurs. Birds get along OK
> > > (the ones that don't have penises), by putting their cloacas together.
> >
> > Seems kind of primitive, right?
>
> Obviously works for them. There's a few more birds than mammals...

It certainly works, but Gawd!!! Fornicating birds are a more amusing
site than fornicating humans!

If birds ever made porno flicks (porno flickers?) no one would go see
them. The'd only say to themselve "Gah! Don't remind me! Breeding
season's only 6 weeks away!"

Chris

Richard Forrest

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Andrew Arensburger wrote:
> Richard Forrest <ric...@plesiosaur.com> wrote:
> > John Wilkins wrote:
> > > I prefer the Spike Milligan version:
> > >
> > > "Nae, it's all in perrfect condition!"
>
> > Yes, but I can't do a convincing Scottish accent.
>
> Fortunately, in a written medium you can just use the
> <accent>...</accent> tags and let the machine do it for you.
So what do I get if I do <accent>"Nae, it's all in perrfect condition!"
</acent>?
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UC

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nmp wrote:
> Op Thu, 09 Nov 2006 06:39:38 -0800, schreef UC:

>
>
> > Do ANY non-mammalians have true penes?
>
> If you consider only mammalian penises to be *true* penises: No.

I had no idea! You mean only mammals have true penes! Not birds or bees?

Matt Silberstein

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On 10 Nov 2006 08:11:56 -0800, in talk.origins , "Richard Forrest"
<ric...@plesiosaur.com> in
<1163175116.6...@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
>Andrew Arensburger wrote:
>> Richard Forrest <ric...@plesiosaur.com> wrote:
>> > John Wilkins wrote:
>> > > I prefer the Spike Milligan version:
>> > >
>> > > "Nae, it's all in perrfect condition!"
>>
>> > Yes, but I can't do a convincing Scottish accent.
>>
>> Fortunately, in a written medium you can just use the
>> <accent>...</accent> tags and let the machine do it for you.
>So what do I get if I do <accent>"Nae, it's all in perrfect condition!"
></acent>?

You need a value field <accent class="scottish>Nae ...</accent>

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Matt Silberstein wrote:
> On 10 Nov 2006 08:11:56 -0800, in talk.origins , "Richard Forrest"
> <ric...@plesiosaur.com> in
> <1163175116.6...@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Andrew Arensburger wrote:
> >> Richard Forrest <ric...@plesiosaur.com> wrote:
> >> > John Wilkins wrote:
> >> > > I prefer the Spike Milligan version:
> >> > >
> >> > > "Nae, it's all in perrfect condition!"
> >>
> >> > Yes, but I can't do a convincing Scottish accent.
> >>
> >> Fortunately, in a written medium you can just use the
> >> <accent>...</accent> tags and let the machine do it for you.
> >So what do I get if I do <accent>"Nae, it's all in perrfect condition!"
> ></acent>?
>
> You need a value field <accent class="scottish>Nae ...</accent>

Surely I need <accent class="unscottish">Nae....</accent>?

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UC

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nmp wrote:
> Op Fri, 10 Nov 2006 08:51:01 -0800, schreef UC:
> You're bulshitting. Birds and bees do not have mammalian penises, no.

What I'm asking is whether AMY animals have penes in the same sense as
mammals do, which become blood-engorged, etc.

Iain

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In this case it would be:

"Naw, it's aw in perfec' fettle".

There is a half-standard orthography to Scots.
In most Lowland dialects "nay" is a substitute for "no" where "no" is a
number.

~Iain

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Andrew Arensburger

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Richard Forrest <ric...@plesiosaur.com> wrote:

> Matt Silberstein wrote:
> > You need a value field <accent class="scottish>Nae ...</accent>

> Surely I need <accent class="unscottish">Nae....</accent>?

If you try
<accent class="scottish">Nae...</accent>
you get more-Scottish-than-Scottish, which the standard defines as
being equivalent to Nac Mac Feegle.
Crivens!

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