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Harvest Dancer

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Feb 8, 2012, 1:34:09 PM2/8/12
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As February arrives, I compose a ballot of all Watts from January.

(Vowel-boy, that means your complaints from last month are resolved.)

Vote Early, Vote Often, may the Best Watt Win!

Jason Harvestdancer


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When an irresistable force meets an immoveable jock category:

> > Last time I went to a boxing match they had to call it off, because a
> > hockey game broke out.

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chez watt category = letter to the editor

>>> Bluff. The irony is that it takes intelligence to design an argument
>>> against Intelligent Design, but it takes enormous stupidity to be
>>> convinced by such an argument.

>> With a decent editor, there's a bumper sticker in there somewhere.

======

In the Proof Using Scriptures as Wanking Material Rots Your Brain
category:

> > > > > Thank you; all the innocent newborns deserved to die. That's
> > > > > sufficient answer, and proves my point.

> > > > You make so many assumptions. You assume there were newborns.

> > How can one *not* assume there weren't newborns in a society having
> > both males and females of breeding age?

> Given that they would rather shag the angels up the arse than have a
> good time with a couple of ripe virgins the probabilities that there
> were offspring from their sexual exploits is considerably reduced. I
> can see you haven't thought this one through very well have you.

> In any case the account is silent either way. All we can infer from
> the account is that everybody who died deserved to die. If you want to
> make Yhwh out to be a homo hater you would have better luck than with
> this baby killer theme which just doesn't really seem to be going
> anywhere.

======

In the category of coming out in a public newsgroup.

> Nope, she's right. A gay friend of mine used to reckon the difference
> between a straight bloke and a gay bloke was 6 pints. OK, he was
> exaggerating to make a joke, but the number of "100% straight" men he'd
> slept with was surprising.

======

In the category of "Insert your own jokes here"

> Yes! Woman is truly God's master piece. I dare you, I urge you, I
> challenge you to beat it.

======

In the category: "Nature Green in Tooth and Claw".

Or possibly in the category "There is a Teleology Coming to a Wildlife
Park Near You"

<snip>

> Did you really want to bring that up? Under what evolutionary pressure
> exactly do you imagine it becoming more advantageous to have to hunt
> for food than to be able to graze from grass and leaves? The world
> became a desert with only animals as food running around in it?

======

In the category of "I see you've earned the 'Playing with Fire'
badge."

>><http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2080050/Now-thats-chim-PAN-zee-M
>>eet-monkey-fry-burgers.html>

>>Points to the origin of the hominoid fire making? Almost there, and
>>IIUC, some human groups don't make fire, but keep a fire burning
>>constantly and if it goes out must get from another location.

>>I suppose we have enough ex boy scouts around that we could build fires
>>from scratch, not matches or lighters, which is something I never did
>>even when I leader of the Beaver Patrol.

> Considering what some Boy Scout leaders have been convicted of, ISTM a
> Beaver Patrol is a very healthy thing :)

======

In the "Flapjacks of Wrath" category....

>> Nope that was a bible misprint. Seth (i.e. Scotty) later used the
>> ships remaining tractor
>> beams and anti-grav units to lift the stones for the pyramids. where
>> he later was
>> called "Set" because the Egyptians didn't
>> have a "th" sound in their language. He also went by Imhotep, and went
>> on to found
>> a chain of pancake houses.

> I believe you're naturally confusing him with Ihoptep.

======

in Marianne Faithful's Broken English category...

> No scientists may not create information

======

The Golden Globes script.

<Ricky Gervais> And the winner of this year's "Lifetime Award for
Illeism" is...

<drumroll>

> So, there's this guy on the internet who claims to know what God
> believes better than his only Son. Who should I believe? Him? Or God's
> Son?

<RG> Well, holy moley. Or whatever. Unfortunately, JC's not here to
get nailed, sorry, what am I saying, /collect/ this magnificent cross
in person, but we've a videolink to Everest base camp. Hopefully,
he'll be able to say a few words before he sets off with a bare
arse... with a sherpa called barearsed... Sorry, these cue cards are
tiny. Sets off barefoot to the summit. Come in, JC!

======

In the category "He won't get this. Hit him with a 2x4.":

>You leave me no choice but to feel free.

======

In the category "The t.o. distinction without a difference"

> And by "threat" I meant thread. That's a pretty embarrassing typo,
> haha.

======

In the category of "Move along; nothing to see here..."

> > Does anybody have anything to add to the information on this page?

> Those few hundred words absolutely exhaust our knowledge of the topic.
> The handful of references at the bottom of the page were intended to be
> used only as decoration.

======

In the "Damn, wish I'd come up with that" category :

>> When am I going to start seeing something conclusive???

> When you open your eyes. In other words, never.

======

In the "They Hate That" category:

> You should not either anthropomophize humans. They are mostly
> morons.

======

In the "dribble glass half full" category:

> I admit, I will most certainly miss you.

> But then I prepare the Chez Watt ballot.

======

In the over the top American Exceptionalism Department.

> The United States is the world's most successful nation ever.

======

In the category: what has chemistry come to?

> A proton may have a "physical size" on
> the order of femtometers, but be unable to pass through a ring of carbon
> atoms without the electrons in the carbon ring trying to commit all
> sorts of chemistry on the proton.

======

Nominated in the "no sex please, we're Stegosaurs" category

> Since no one has been able to offer a plausible explanation as to how
> these creatures engaged in coitus, they are fine examples of Special
> Creation.

======

This is a Grade AAAA++++ to infinity prime-time
omygodreadthisyoucannotbeseriouswowmybrainhurts Chez Watt.

(I tried to make it anonymous by replacing the name with XXXXXXX, but
really, the person in question is so identifiable perhaps I shouldn't
have bothered.)

> > > See XXXXXXX, you just have to apply proper linguistics and you'll
> > > understand exactly where the olive branch came from. The highest land
> > > on earth is the Himalayan mountain range. And when the Flood covered
> > > the whole earth it just barely covered the top of the Himalayas. Now,
> > > just as the Nile used to be a lush tropical area full of papyrus, the
> > > top of the Himalayan mountain range used to have a mild, Mediterranean
> > > climate and to be full of olive trees. How can we know this?? Just
> > > look at the name Himalayas....

> > > well, in ancient Greek "himalis" means "abundant" and "elaios" means
> > > "wild olive"

> > > so himelaios (=Himalayas) means "abundant wild olives."

> > > So, obviously the tops of the abundant olive trees on the top of
> > > Everest were above the water level, and that's how the dove managed to
> > > find a live olive branch. It's so easy when you just learn about the
> > > history of languages and proper names...

> > So, you are helping prove what the Bible says, then.
> > It would have taken time for the water to get up to the level of the
> > Himalayas, and it would also be likely that the salinity of oceans had
> > diminished extremely, due
> > to the amount of fresh water coming from the springs
> > in the earth, plus the water from the skies, and so the
> > olive trees on the Himalays would not have likely died,
> > and in fact would still be probably producing or holding
> > onto it's fruit.

> > That's very intersting about the name of the"HImalayas"
> > and the name meaing "wild olive," "abundant" and
> > "olive." "Elaios" which you mention is interesting
> > and I can see how it converted into "Olea" which olive
> > species are also labeled. Thank you for your expertise.

> > You also mentioned that knowing linguistics could
> > have helped me as if you thought I knew nothing
> > about linguistics. I just know a little about linguistics
> > as a subject that helps people "predict" earlier
> > proto-languages. I know about larygeals, and
> > progressions of consonant variations. I also know
> > the meaning of the basis in such as Latin to many
> > words. I did not know the meaning of Himalayas
> > as a word meaning wild olive, though, so thank
> > you for your imformation.

> > I did have a shrub in my front yard that was called
> > a "Russian olive," which is a member of trees and
> > shrubs called "oleasters." I knew it was a mamber
> > of the olive trees, but didn't relate that to the name
> > Himalayas. When I studied languages, I found out
> > that all the vowels can form the "uh" sound, so I
> > would contribute here that "olea" even though we
> > say "Oh-lee-a" could have been pronounced as
> > "uh-lee-uh" and also "elaeos" could hav been
> > pronounced as "uh-lay-us," so I can see how
> > elaeos and olea could be the same pronunciation
> > in earlier langauges. The Koine Greek puts a
> > silent "s" on the end of words that end with a
> > vowel lound like Yeshua = Jesus and like
> > Jonah=Jonas. Not all Koine Gk. words ending in
> > a vowel sound get spealled that way, though, for
> > there was Noah=Noe. The "e" on the end of
> > Noe was prnounced "as an "uh" sound making
> > it phonetically being Noe pronounced No-uh. : )

> > I'm so glad you told me though about the name
> > "Himalayas." So, thanks.

> XXXXXXX, if there were an Olympic event in gullibility you'd win the
> gold medal easily. All that stuff about Himalayas meaning "abundant
> wild olives" I JUST MADE IT UP.

> Yes, I JUST MADE IT UP.

> And the reason I made it up was to show you how easy it is to generate
> such nonsense as your NARMER=NIMROD, and you Tubal = Tblisi stories,
> and many other things that you get from loony internet sites.

> Here's how it's done. Take a real fact that most people know, the
> Himalayas are the highest mountains on Earth. Add the Bible story
> about the flood and the olive branch. Then add a couple of true but
> obscure facts: It's true that elaios means olive in Greek (I
> remembered because it turns up in Homer from time to time). Then I
> looked through a Greek dictionary for words beginning with a rough
> breathing (=H), followed by a vowel and then a mu (M). I lucked out
> with "himalis" which really does mean abundant. If you look those up,
> you'll think I know what I'm talking about, and it will add
> credibility to what comes next.

> Then throw in some utter nonsense: It is ridiculous to think that the
> top of Mt Everest had a mild, Mediterranean climate a few thousand
> years ago, or to think that olive trees could grow there, or survive a
> year with their roots drowned in seawater.

> Then shake it all together and "Poof" and out comes a XXXXXXX,
> etymological archaeological special, bound to please.

> By the way the actual derivation for the name Himalaya is apparently
> from a Sanskrit word meaning "abode of snow." I don't know Sanskrit,
> so I cannot vouch for that, but there is a lot of snow up there, and
> not a wild olive in sight.

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David Hare-Scott

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Kleuskes & Moos

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Feb 9, 2012, 4:16:34 AM2/9/12
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On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 10:34:09 -0800, Harvest Dancer wrote:

> In the category: what has chemistry come to?
>
>> A proton may have a "physical size" on the order of femtometers, but be
>> unable to pass through a ring of carbon atoms without the electrons in
>> the carbon ring trying to commit all sorts of chemistry on the proton.

I'll stick with this one.
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alextangent

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Feb 9, 2012, 7:42:18 AM2/9/12
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On Feb 8, 6:34 pm, Harvest Dancer <harvestdan...@hotmail.com> wrote:

This one please; yes, I know I nominated it and it is seriously long,
but since we don't have a WTFOTM...
> > > "Himalayas." So,...
>
> read more »


Bob Casanova

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Feb 10, 2012, 12:11:49 PM2/10/12
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On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:34:09 -0800 (PST), the following
appeared in talk.origins, posted by Harvest Dancer
<harves...@hotmail.com>:

>As February arrives, I compose a ballot of all Watts from January.
>
>(Vowel-boy, that means your complaints from last month are resolved.)
>
>Vote Early, Vote Often, may the Best Watt Win!
>
>Jason Harvestdancer

These three, please; equal weight.

(Yeah, I know I nominated one of them. Sue me.)

>======
>
>In the category of "Insert your own jokes here"
>
>> Yes! Woman is truly God's master piece. I dare you, I urge you, I
>> challenge you to beat it.
>
>======
>======
>
>in Marianne Faithful's Broken English category...
>
>> No scientists may not create information
>
>======
>======
>
>In the category "He won't get this. Hit him with a 2x4.":
>
>>You leave me no choice but to feel free.
>
>======
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

Mark Isaak

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Feb 10, 2012, 4:26:21 PM2/10/12
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On 2/8/12 10:34 AM, Harvest Dancer wrote:
> As February arrives, I compose a ballot of all Watts from January.


I still like this one and vote it for first place:

> ======
> In the "dribble glass half full" category:
>
>> I admit, I will most certainly miss you.
>
>> But then I prepare the Chez Watt ballot.
> ======

A close second:

> ======
> Nominated in the "no sex please, we're Stegosaurs" category
>
>> Since no one has been able to offer a plausible explanation as to how
>> these creatures engaged in coitus, they are fine examples of Special
>> Creation.
> ======

A distant third:

> ======
> In the category "He won't get this. Hit him with a 2x4.":
>
>> You leave me no choice but to feel free.
> ======


--
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"It is certain, from experience, that the smallest grain of natural
honesty and benevolence has more effect on men's conduct, than the most
pompous views suggested by theological theories and systems." - D. Hume

Free Lunch

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Feb 10, 2012, 6:52:26 PM2/10/12
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On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:34:09 -0800 (PST), Harvest Dancer
<harves...@hotmail.com> wrote in talk.origins:

>As February arrives, I compose a ballot of all Watts from January.
>
>(Vowel-boy, that means your complaints from last month are resolved.)
>
>Vote Early, Vote Often, may the Best Watt Win!
>
>Jason Harvestdancer
>
Position 4:
>
>In the category of coming out in a public newsgroup.
>
>> Nope, she's right. A gay friend of mine used to reckon the difference
>> between a straight bloke and a gay bloke was 6 pints. OK, he was
>> exaggerating to make a joke, but the number of "100% straight" men he'd
>> slept with was surprising.
>
Position 5:
>
>In the category of "Insert your own jokes here"
>
>> Yes! Woman is truly God's master piece. I dare you, I urge you, I
>> challenge you to beat it.

Victorious:

>The Golden Globes script.
>
><Ricky Gervais> And the winner of this year's "Lifetime Award for
>Illeism" is...
>
><drumroll>
>
>> So, there's this guy on the internet who claims to know what God
>> believes better than his only Son. Who should I believe? Him? Or God's
>> Son?
>
><RG> Well, holy moley. Or whatever. Unfortunately, JC's not here to
>get nailed, sorry, what am I saying, /collect/ this magnificent cross
>in person, but we've a videolink to Everest base camp. Hopefully,
>he'll be able to say a few words before he sets off with a bare
>arse... with a sherpa called barearsed... Sorry, these cue cards are
>tiny. Sets off barefoot to the summit. Come in, JC!

Third, with a bullet:

>In the category of "Move along; nothing to see here..."
>
>> > Does anybody have anything to add to the information on this page?
>
>> Those few hundred words absolutely exhaust our knowledge of the topic.
>> The handful of references at the bottom of the page were intended to be
>> used only as decoration.

Second (there are limits to my pandering to the master):

>In the "dribble glass half full" category:
>
>> I admit, I will most certainly miss you.
>
>> But then I prepare the Chez Watt ballot.
>
(dis)Honorable mention for profound ignorance (yes I am American):

Walter Bushell

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Unknown poster wrote:

> Unfortunately, JC's not here to get nailed

Jesus was gay? Or was UP gay and really hard up?

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It is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant
and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting. -- H. L. Mencken

Walter Bushell

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In article
<603dbf76-9858-4e72...@t5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Harvest Dancer <harves...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Tough choice by this one.
======

In the category "He won't get this. Hit him with a 2x4.":

>You leave me no choice but to feel free.

======
The one by XXXXX was good but too long.

And #2 the one about American exceptionalism.

of course this has potential
======

When an irresistable force meets an immoveable jock category:

> > Last time I went to a boxing match they had to call it off, because a
> > hockey game broke out.

======

> ======
>
> In the over the top American Exceptionalism Department.
>
> > The United States is the world's most successful nation ever.
>
> ======

Stephen

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Feb 11, 2012, 6:48:59 PM2/11/12
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Harvest Dancer wrote:

> As February arrives, I compose a ballot of all Watts from January.
> (Vowel-boy, that means your complaints from last month are resolved.)
> Vote Early, Vote Often, may the Best Watt Win!
>
> Jason Harvestdancer
>
>


First:

>
> In the "dribble glass half full" category:
>
> > I admit, I will most certainly miss you.
>
> > But then I prepare the Chez Watt ballot.
>
> ======
>




Second:

>
> Nominated in the "no sex please, we're Stegosaurs" category
>
> > Since no one has been able to offer a plausible explanation as to
> > how these creatures engaged in coitus, they are fine examples of
> > Special Creation.
>
> ======



Third:

>
> In the "Flapjacks of Wrath" category....
>
> >> Nope that was a bible misprint. Seth (i.e. Scotty) later used the
> >> ships remaining tractor
> >> beams and anti-grav units to lift the stones for the pyramids.
> >> where he later was
> >> called "Set" because the Egyptians didn't
> >> have a "th" sound in their language. He also went by Imhotep, and
> >> went on to found
> >> a chain of pancake houses.
>
> > I believe you're naturally confusing him with Ihoptep.
>

=====



Fourth:

Burkhard

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Feb 11, 2012, 8:09:21 PM2/11/12
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On Feb 8, 6:34 pm, Harvest Dancer <harvestdan...@hotmail.com> wrote:

One each please for :

> ======
>
> In the category "He won't get this. Hit him with a 2x4.":
>
> >You leave me no choice but to feel free.
>
> ======


>
> In the "They Hate That" category:
>
> > You should not either anthropomophize  humans.  They are mostly
> > morons.
>
> ======


>
> In the "dribble glass half full" category:
>
> > I admit, I will most certainly miss you.
> > But then I prepare the Chez Watt ballot.
>
> ======


Harvest Dancer

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Feb 16, 2012, 7:56:46 PM2/16/12
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Here are the winners. I was a little surprised at the low voter
turnout. Winning authors and winning nominators are invited to come
forward for credit or blame (as appropriate).

First Place

> In the "dribble glass half full" category:
>
> > I admit, I will most certainly miss you.
> > But then I prepare the Chez Watt ballot.

Second Place

> In the category "He won't get this. Hit him with a 2x4.":
>
> >You leave me no choice but to feel free.

Third Place

> Nominated in the "no sex please, we're Stegosaurs" category
>
> > Since no one has been able to offer a plausible explanation as to how
> > these creatures engaged in coitus, they are fine examples of Special
> > Creation.


> ======
>
> In the category "The t.o. distinction without a difference"
>
> > And by "threat" I meant thread. That's a pretty embarrassing typo,
> > haha.
>
> ======
>
> In the category of "Move along; nothing to see here..."
>
> > > Does anybody have anything to add to the information on this page?
> > Those few hundred words absolutely exhaust our knowledge of the topic.
> > The handful of references at the bottom of the page were intended to be
> > used only as decoration.
>
> ======
>
> In the "Damn, wish I'd come up with that" category :
>
> >> When am I going to start seeing something conclusive???
> > When you open your eyes. In other words, never.
>
> ======
>
> In the "They Hate That" category:
>
> > You should not either anthropomophize  humans.  They are mostly
> > morons.
>
> ======
>
>
> ======
>
> In the over the top American Exceptionalism Department.
>
> > The United States is the world's most successful nation ever.
>
> ======
>
> In the category: what has chemistry come to?
>
> > A proton may have a "physical size" on
> > the order of femtometers, but be unable to pass through a ring of carbon
> > atoms without the electrons in the carbon ring trying to commit all
> > sorts of chemistry on the proton.
>
> ======
>
>

Harvest Dancer

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On Feb 16, 4:56 pm, Harvest Dancer <harves...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Here are the winners.  I was a little surprised at the low voter
> turnout.  Winning authors and winning nominators are invited to come
> forward for credit or blame (as appropriate).
>
> First Place
>
> > In the "dribble glass half full" category:
>
> > > I admit, I will most certainly miss you.
> > > But then I prepare the Chez Watt ballot.
>

Aw Shucks, guys, you shouldn't have.

Jason Harvestdancer

Bob Casanova

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On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:56:46 -0800 (PST), the following
appeared in talk.origins, posted by Harvest Dancer
<harves...@hotmail.com>:

>Here are the winners. I was a little surprised at the low voter
>turnout. Winning authors and winning nominators are invited to come
>forward for credit or blame (as appropriate).
>
>First Place
>
>> In the "dribble glass half full" category:
>>
>> > I admit, I will most certainly miss you.
>> > But then I prepare the Chez Watt ballot.
>
>Second Place
>
>> In the category "He won't get this. Hit him with a 2x4.":
>>
>> >You leave me no choice but to feel free.
>
>Third Place
>
>> Nominated in the "no sex please, we're Stegosaurs" category
>>
>> > Since no one has been able to offer a plausible explanation as to how
>> > these creatures engaged in coitus, they are fine examples of Special
>> > Creation.

Cool; my nomination came in second. Obviously low turnout is
beneficial to *some* of us... ;-)
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