http://www.bible.ca/tracks/tracks-cambodia.htm
It looks more like a pig to me. Even if it was an example of a stegosaurus
living into the present, so what?
Humans live concurrently with dinosaurs today, they are just called "birds".
Incidentally, stegosaur fossils are only found in North America.
DJT
>
>
Oh course, it could just be a coincidence.
And there have been plenty of stories of dinosaurs surviving into
modern times.
It would be interesting to find a stegasaur bone that could be carbon
dated to the time of this carvings.
Dwib
> Compelling evidence for the co-occurrence of dinosaurs and man.
>
> http://www.bible.ca/tracks/tracks-cambodia.htm
>
>
Compelling evidence that you will believe anything as long as it seems
to reinforce your prior beliefs. It doesn't look like a stegosaurus to
me. The body proportions are all wrong. Short tail. Huge head. In fact,
the only thing that would make anyone suppose it to be a Stegosaurus are
what look like plates on the back. But are they? The picture right below
has something similar, and that's no Stegosaurus. Perhaps if you looked
at this carving in context with all the others and with Khmer stone
carvings and art in general, you might get a clearer idea of what was
actually being shown.
This is a pictorial form of quote-mining. This is von Daniken "scholarship".
This is a use of the word "compelling" with which I am unfamiliar.
Could you explain what is so "compelling" about what looks like the
image of a pig against a decorative background?
Incidentally, it looks rather more like a pig than a stegosaur.
RF
Good work.
I have seen medieval woodcuts and tapestries which prove that there
were dragons which flew and breathed fire. Also, there is a very large
statue in Egypt which establishes beyond all doubt that lions once had
human-looking heads. The Greeks knew of horses which flew; eyewitnesses
carved some *very nice statues of them
Godless paleontologists are frantically looking for evidence to
disprove these. BTW, did you know that God's head looks a lot like an
elephant's?
http://www.crystalinks.com/ganesh.html
Ha! Let's see what those liberal atheist god-haters say about that!
Kermit
I'll admit that's pretty compelling, but not as compelling
as this:
http://tinyurl.com/a9hq9
-jc
A weathered 800-year-old carving of an unidentifiable animal that bears
a passing resemblance to a dinosaur is compelling evidence? Get
serious.
I thought stegostauruses had long necks. It also appears that a number
of the other animals have things going on above their backs, although
the "dinosaur" picture is the only one taken at an angle to give a good
texture view. For example, the picture of the bird, and the goat like
thing above it both have rocky blebs over them
Very nice pictures of the temple though.
The smile on his face makes it a lock-tight case. I like the details
in the pic - especially the adaptation for carrying a warning lamp.
:-)
And Ganesh likes to drink milk:
http://www.crystalinks.com/milkmiracle.html
Ha! Let's see what those monotheists who think that theirs is the only
true religion with miracles say about that!
> Grendel wrote:
>
>>Compelling evidence for the co-occurrence of dinosaurs and man.
>>
>>http://www.bible.ca/tracks/tracks-cambodia.htm
>
>
> I thought stegostauruses had long necks.
They didn't.
Equally "compelling" evidence that the ancient Egyptians were
great friends with a race of dog-headed humanoids.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anubis
Though this guy does seem to be pretty tough to kill on _Star Gate_.
Socks
Such a thing would leave noted impacts on the vegetation. Discarded
plates? Fresh skeletons? Man-sized droppings? I think that if there
are dinosaurs still alive, it would have to be a King Kong scenario --
Some sort of island.
~Iain
Hohohoho!
Does the use of gargoyles and angels to decorate european churches
mean that they walked the earth in medieval times?
--
Bob.
Superficially it does look like a stegasaurus (I have to say more so
than a pig to me: I'd hate to see the pigs the other poster was refering
to). However, if these people are supposed to have seen such an animal
the tail is all wrong, plates instead of spikes. As someone else said it
would need recent remains (within C14 range) to confirm. If it is a
stegosaurus, my gut instinct is that a fossil had been found at some
point rather than a living specimen, even though this is away from their
currently recognised range. I'm not convinced that the 'plates' are
decoration as none of the other visible examples show similar
decoration, however several do show background detail for the animal in
question and that would be my guess here.
Personally, it looks a lot like a rhino except they don't have such
prominent tails.
In addition I would want to see whether all the pictures are of real
animals: many of these sites mix real with imaginary. Anyone know the
answer to this aspect?
Nicholas
Bet some people back then thought so.
Amyone see the C4 'documentary' about the expedition to excavate a
dragon and the evidence for their survival across the world until
recently? A spoof but very well done.
Nicholas
Of course "compelling" to an IDist or creationist means 'whatever can
be vaguely construed to back up cherished religious prejudices.' It
does not mean what it means in science, like how compelling the genetic
evidence is in favor of evolution. To a Grendel that isn't compelling
at all, not due to the actual value of the evidence, of course, but
only because it doesn't lead to the required conclusion.
One should note that "compelling" to them essentially means
"desperately wished-for evidence, since creationism/IDiocy so far is
lacking in any convincing evidence whatsoever." IOW, "compelling
evidence" in favor of creation is like the "compelling evidence" that
the ghost dances made Indians bulletproof. The desperate-to-believe do
believe their "compelling evidence", but the actual evidence nearly
always goes against desperately held beliefs (not that I'd particularly
care if a dinosaur species or two survived in environments
non-conducive to fossilization, however I'd like a whole lot more in
favor than a vague picture not looking like a good depiction of any
animal, plus the desperate hopes of Grendel to be wrong yet again (ok,
actually he hopes he's right at some point, yet it's hard to believe
that anyone could still have that hope after such a long string of
failures)).
Glen Davidson
http://tinyurl.com/b8ykm
> John Harshman wrote:
>
>>Inez wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Grendel wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Compelling evidence for the co-occurrence of dinosaurs and man.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.bible.ca/tracks/tracks-cambodia.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>I thought stegostauruses had long necks.
>>
>>They didn't.
>>
>
> Oops, you are right, and they have a cool picture of a fossil on
> Wikipedia. My favorite factoid from that article is that their tail
> spike arrangement has been officially named a "thagomizer," after a far
> side cartoon.
No, actually it was named after the late Thag Stevens.
Where are the tail spikes?
It is not a stegosaurus at all.
This is a stegosaurus:
http://www.psychosaurus.com/dino/images/stegosaurus.jpg
Their heads are remarkably small and they have spiked tails. The thing
in the drawing doesn't look like anything we've ever seen before but
then again neither do dragons.
It does look like a plated animal, however, which is interesting, at
least anthropologically.
~Iain
>Ye Old One wrote:
>> On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 16:09:57 GMT, "Grendel" <na...@here.com> enriched
>> this group when s/he wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Compelling evidence for the co-occurrence of dinosaurs and man.
>>>
>>>http://www.bible.ca/tracks/tracks-cambodia.htm
>>>
>>
>> Hohohoho!
>>
>> Does the use of gargoyles and angels to decorate european churches
>> mean that they walked the earth in medieval times?
>
>Bet some people back then thought so.
>
>Amyone see the C4 'documentary' about the expedition to excavate a
>dragon and the evidence for their survival across the world until
>recently? A spoof but very well done.
>
It was, sadly I no longer have the recording.
--
Bob.
The next time some moron mentions "Nebraska Man" they're gonna get this
thrown right in their face as an example of ridiculous credulity.
Chris
I would think, if some humans had seen a Stego, they'd proably be more
impressed with the spiky tail, and would have given it a prominent place in
the carving. The carving in the site linked doesn't have a spiky tail,
something I'd not expect someone who knew a real Stego would leave out.
DJT
>
> Compelling evidence for the co-occurrence of dinosaurs and man.
> http://www.bible.ca
Fundie bullshit site.
Anyway, assuming that to be true... so what? If dinos still exist then...
dinos still exist.
And again, the cretinist coyote goes down the cliff desperately howling, and
somewhere in the distance - from the dust cloud at the horizon - we hear
the triumphant "meep meep!" of science.
To be continued.
--
Romans 2:24 revised:
"For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you
cretinists, as it is written on aig."
Why I am not a christian:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus/nojebus
Compelling only to brain dead, willfully pig-ignorant religious fundamentalists like Jisty and its ilk.
--
Seppo P.
What's wrong with Theocracy? (a Finnish Taliban, Oct 1, 2005)
Compared to the carving, they did.
~Iain
What's the point? As all creationists know, they are always right and
the evilutionists are always wrong. Therefore the whole fabric of
evolution is built on the deliberate attempt to pass off a pig's tooth
as that of a human ancestor, and our protests that this image is not
that of a stegosaur is evilutionists in denial when faced with in
inescapable fact that dinosaurs and humans lived together, which fact
completely and utterly disproves evolution.
Logic? Don't try to bamboozle true believers with anything as ungodly
and sinful as logic.
RF
True. The carving seems to have no neck at all.
I suppose we are to take other carvings in the same complex as evidence for
the existence of humans with eight or more arms each, or with elephant
heads?
--
=======================================
r.j.g...@CONFUSE-A-BOTi-groep.leidenuniv.nl
(To reply, unconfuse the 'bot).
Of course you can't. That's just common sense.
Why do evilutionists have to take everything so *literally*?
RF
Sorry. I guess I started thinking clearly for a moment there.
Chris
"Thinking clearly"?
Out of courtesy to the creationists we shouldn't use expressions which
deeply offend them.
This is tanatmount to blasphemy!
RF
> Compelling evidence for the co-occurrence of dinosaurs and man.
>
> http://www.bible.ca/tracks/tracks-cambodia.htm
Hmmm. This site also provides equally compelling evidence for the existence
of Indra! So why are they still promoting a false god?
--
Christopher Heiny
Professor of Bizarre Theories
University of Ediacara
.
It is as convincing as the "assuary" of James, brother of Jesus.
>
> I would think, if some humans had seen a Stego, they'd proably be more
> impressed with the spiky tail, and would have given it a prominent place in
> the carving. The carving in the site linked doesn't have a spiky tail,
> something I'd not expect someone who knew a real Stego would leave out.
Yeah that sounds about right. If anything, this would be compelling
evidence that creationists take *anything* that "disproves" the ToE as
"compellinge evidence."
> DJT
- Søren