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[M]adman

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Mar 23, 2009, 2:03:34 AM3/23/09
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Revelation 1:8
""I am the Alpha and the Omega," declares the Lord God, "the one who is, who
was, and who is coming, the Almighty."


We have existed before the foundation of the world:
Matt. 25:34;
Luke 1:70; 11:50;
Eph. 1:4;
2 Tim. 1:9;
Isaiah 40:21.

--
It is all about the truth with:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
·.¸Adman¸.·
^^^^^^^^^^^

JPG

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Mar 23, 2009, 5:10:09 AM3/23/09
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Do you pick and choose what is truth out of the Bible? I guess you
are advanced enough not to believe in talking snakes?

wf3h

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Mar 23, 2009, 5:58:09 AM3/23/09
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On Mar 23, 2:03 am, "[M]adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:
> Revelation 1:8
> ""I am the Alpha and the Omega," declares the Lord God, "the one who is, who
> was, and who is coming, the Almighty."
>
> We have existed before the foundation of the world:
>

it's too bad god didn't exist until we invented him.

Boikat

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Mar 23, 2009, 11:04:04 AM3/23/09
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On Mar 23, 1:03 am, "[M]adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:
> Revelation 1:8
> ""I am the Alpha and the Omega," declares the Lord God, "the one who is, who
> was, and who is coming, the Almighty."
>
> We have existed before the foundation of the world:
> Matt. 25:34;
> Luke 1:70; 11:50;
> Eph. 1:4;
>  2 Tim. 1:9;
> Isaiah 40:21.
>


Logical fallacy of "Circular Reasoning", or "Begging the Question.
Take your pick.

Is there even *one* atom capable of basic logic inside your skull?

> --
> It is all about illogic, with:


> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> ·.¸Adman¸.·
> ^^^^^^^^^^^

Boikat

Chris

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Mar 23, 2009, 11:33:26 AM3/23/09
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On Mar 23, 2:03 am, "[M]adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:
> Revelation 1:8
> ""I am the Alpha and the Omega," declares the Lord God, "the one who is, who
> was, and who is coming, the Almighty."
>

To which Saint John replied, "WTF!?!?!?" since he only spoke Aramaic.

Chris

Paul J Gans

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Mar 23, 2009, 12:20:48 PM3/23/09
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For the purposes of annoying the majority on this newsgroup
he would believe in talking snakes.

--
--- Paul J. Gans

wf3h

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Mar 23, 2009, 12:27:18 PM3/23/09
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On Mar 23, 12:20 pm, Paul J Gans <g...@panix.com> wrote:

i thought he WAS one...

[M]adman

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Mar 23, 2009, 1:35:31 PM3/23/09
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Translation: I do not understand the :
Omega Point

Bob Casanova

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Mar 23, 2009, 6:28:04 PM3/23/09
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On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 01:03:34 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by "[M]adman" <gr...@hotmail.et>:

>Revelation 1:8
>""I am the Alpha and the Omega," declares the Lord God, "the one who is, who
>was, and who is coming, the Almighty."
>
>
>We have existed before the foundation of the world:
>Matt. 25:34;
>Luke 1:70; 11:50;
>Eph. 1:4;
> 2 Tim. 1:9;
>Isaiah 40:21.

"All of this has happened before; all of this will happen
again" - Ron Moore

The fact that a person said it or wrote it doesn't make it
real.
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

John Stockwell

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Mar 23, 2009, 7:04:35 PM3/23/09
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On Mar 23, 12:03 am, "[M]adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:
> Revelation 1:8
> ""I am the Alpha and the Omega," declares the Lord God, "the one who is, who
> was, and who is coming, the Almighty."
>
> We have existed before the foundation of the world:
> Matt. 25:34;
> Luke 1:70; 11:50;
> Eph. 1:4;
> 2 Tim. 1:9;
> Isaiah 40:21.


So what?

Chris

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Mar 23, 2009, 7:14:40 PM3/23/09
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Holy crap! You're not going all de Chardin on us are you? That guy was
a hoot and a half! Did fine work on Homo erectus though- you did know
he supported human evolution from ape ancestors right? That he was a
real pioneer in human evolution?

Chris

Rodjk #613

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Mar 23, 2009, 7:22:51 PM3/23/09
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Nah, he is just a troll.

Rodjk #613

heekster

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Mar 23, 2009, 7:51:20 PM3/23/09
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On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:27:18 -0700 (PDT), wf3h <wf...@vsswireless.net>
wrote:

Oh, no. He isn't a talking ophidian.

More like a talking cloaca.
--
Ridendo dicere verum.

Martin Hutton

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Mar 23, 2009, 11:02:24 PM3/23/09
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On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:14:40 -0400, Chris <chris.li...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Gould thought he might have been a co-conspirator (with Dawson), or
the sole perpetrator with Dawson's unwitting assistance, of the
Piltdown hoax.

--
Martin

Boikat

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Mar 23, 2009, 11:15:06 PM3/23/09
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On Mar 23, 5:28 pm, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 01:03:34 -0500, the following appeared
> in talk.origins, posted by "[M]adman" <g...@hotmail.et>:

>
> >Revelation 1:8
> >""I am the Alpha and the Omega," declares the Lord God, "the one who is, who
> >was, and who is coming, the Almighty."
>
> >We have existed before the foundation of the world:
> >Matt. 25:34;
> >Luke 1:70; 11:50;
> >Eph. 1:4;
> > 2 Tim. 1:9;
> >Isaiah 40:21.
>
> "All of this has happened before; all of this will happen
> again" - Ron Moore
>
> The fact that a person said it or wrote it doesn't make it
> real.

It dawned on me recently, that adman is like the Thermians:

http://www.decentfilms.com/sections/reviews/galaxyquest.html

[Trying to explain TV to the Thermians]

Gwen DeMarco: They're not ALL "historical documents." Surely, you
don't think Gilligan's Island is a...

[All the Thermians moan in despair]

Mathesar: Those poor people.

Boikat

[M]adman

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Mar 23, 2009, 11:28:58 PM3/23/09
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Translation: I STILL do not understand the :
Omega Point

Chris

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Mar 24, 2009, 6:02:00 AM3/24/09
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Sure I do. It's bunkum, just like every other piece of tripe you post.

The really funny think is that half of the garbage you post utterly
contradicts the other half. Tell me, for instance, how you reconcile
human evolution as an integral part of the Omega Point with your
previous posts on a flood that reduced the human population to a few
individuals.

Chris
<starts the popcorn...this should be better than _Rocky_>

Drafterman

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Mar 24, 2009, 9:21:43 AM3/24/09
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On Mar 23, 2:03 am, "[M]adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:

Why should I care what the Bible has to say?

Louann Miller

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Mar 24, 2009, 11:10:23 AM3/24/09
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"Martin Hutton" <mdhutt...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:op.uq9z2aggil7zud@sam_vimes:

>> Holy crap! You're not going all de Chardin on us are you? That guy was
>> a hoot and a half! Did fine work on Homo erectus though- you did know
>> he supported human evolution from ape ancestors right? That he was a
>> real pioneer in human evolution?
>>
>> Chris
>>
>
> Gould thought he might have been a co-conspirator (with Dawson), or
> the sole perpetrator with Dawson's unwitting assistance, of the
> Piltdown hoax.

"Unraveling Piltdown" claims that Gould was mistaken; the explanation
gets its own chapter.

Paul J Gans

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Mar 24, 2009, 12:04:27 PM3/24/09
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I can't agree. You see, I *don't* believe in talking snakes.

Bob Casanova

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Mar 24, 2009, 5:59:20 PM3/24/09
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On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:15:06 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in talk.origins, posted by Boikat
<boi...@bellsouth.net>:

<G> I *loved* Galaxy Quest; thanks for the reminder!

A point, though: Addled "believes" only certain selected
"ancient writings"; the selection criteria are somewhat
vague, other than "I like this one, so it's true". The
Thermians were much more catholic (in the secular sense).

[M]adman

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Mar 24, 2009, 6:29:58 PM3/24/09
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have a coke


*Hemidactylus*

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Mar 24, 2009, 10:01:06 PM3/24/09
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I have read Teilhard on this. Please explain what you mean by the
phrase. Are you pointing to a teleological progression of humanity
towards a more Christ-like state? Or are you talking about how Christ
is supposed to break bad during the bloodbath predicted in Revelation?
I prefer Teilhard's vision--with theology removed.

Teilhard did predict the world wide network underpinned by TCP/IP
after all. That was an aspect of his progreesive view which came to
fruition...a noospheric virtual existence where trolls can use NNTP to
troll others repeatedly. You would make Teilhard proud. [sarcasm]

Does a progressive tendency towards Christogenesis push you to troll
t.o.? What would Jesus do with a good newsreader and usenet access?

[M]adman

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Mar 25, 2009, 3:55:32 AM3/25/09
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God is the Omaga point

Chris

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Mar 25, 2009, 6:13:23 AM3/25/09
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So you found a catch-phrase on some New Age phony-philosophical
website that melds Christianity, pop psychology, crystal healing and
the work of a noted Jesuit anthropologist who also happened to have
such kooky ideas that they were suppressed by the church for decades.

Why am I not surprised you latched onto it like a starving lamprey?

Chris

PS: de Chardin was cool in 1960. Do you wear tie-dyes and bell-bottoms
too?

Ye Old One

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Mar 25, 2009, 10:40:18 AM3/25/09
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God is the invention of primitive man.

--
Bob.

*Hemidactylus*

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Mar 25, 2009, 12:32:48 PM3/25/09
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God is Christ, therefore Christ is the Omega point.

*Hemidactylus*

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Mar 25, 2009, 12:44:34 PM3/25/09
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Teilhard was a hippie? Jung was cool in the 60's and he wasn't a
hippiie and died in '61 so couldn't participate in the flowering.
Teilhard didn't even make it to see the 60's.

Aldous Huxley was arguably more of a proto-hippie than either Jung or
Teilhard and he managed to live further into the 60's by a couple
years. Serving as an inspiration for the Lizard King, Huxley was more
likely to have worn tie-dyes and bell-bottoms, but sadly didn't live
to see these innovations in fashion. His spectacles were more
fashionable than Lennon's. His brother Julian, an architect and
commentator on the Modern Synthesis, was well acquainted with
Teilhard's work and appropriated some of it in his speculations upon
human cultural evolution.

*Hemidactylus*

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Mar 25, 2009, 12:49:02 PM3/25/09
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On Mar 25, 10:40 am, Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:55:32 -0500, "[M]adman" <g...@hotmail.et>
Or the idea of god(s) was passed to primitive humans by
extraterrestrial space voyagers. This only passes the origins of a
deity back a step. Maybe Nietzsche's eternal recurrence applies as it
has happened before and will happen again.

Chris

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Mar 25, 2009, 1:20:13 PM3/25/09
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He experienced a revival of interest in the 60's. People latched onto
anything that sounded existential, metaphysical, transcendental, or
like a good excuse to get stoned. If the establishment stopped you
from publishing your work, so much the better. He probably would have
been mortified at what was done to his philosophy, though.

Chris

Chris

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Mar 25, 2009, 1:48:23 PM3/25/09
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What does the Mexican American Grocer's Association have to do with
this?

Chris

John S. Wilkins

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Mar 26, 2009, 1:05:25 AM3/26/09
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*Hemidactylus* <ecph...@hotmail.com> wrote:

No. Watching BSG once is enough.
--
John S. Wilkins, Philosophy, University of Sydney
scienceblogs.com/evolvingthoughts
But al be that he was a philosophre,
Yet hadde he but litel gold in cofre

Walter Bushell

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Mar 26, 2009, 4:45:09 PM3/26/09
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In article
<645a423a-5b3a-454a...@l22g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
Chris <chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote:

> He experienced a revival of interest in the 60's. People latched onto
> anything that sounded existential, metaphysical, transcendental, or
> like a good excuse to get stoned. If the establishment stopped you
> from publishing your work, so much the better. He probably would have
> been mortified at what was done to his philosophy, though.

Doubt it he was already completely mortified. He was dead, Chris, isn't
much more mortified you can get. Besides, every philosopher yearns to be
remembered, even if "refuted", someone will refute the refruiters and so
on.

Walter Bushell

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Mar 26, 2009, 4:46:09 PM3/26/09
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In article
<c060a2be-b697-4bce...@l13g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
Chris <chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote:

They're catering the second cumming. Jesus is Mexican, you can tell by
the name.

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