"The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
> "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
> million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
> size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
> Chris
QUOTE:
Those are some big critters. But if you think Carbonemys was the
biggest turtle that ever lived, think again. According to the website
of the National Museum of Wales, the largest turtle on record measured
almost nine feet in length and weighed 2,016 pounds. That beast, which
washed ashore in 1988, is believed to have been about 100 years old
when it died.
END QUOTE:
> > "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
> > million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
> > size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
> > Chris
> QUOTE:
> Those are some big critters. But if you think Carbonemys was the
> biggest turtle that ever lived, think again. According to the website
> of the National Museum of Wales, the largest turtle on record measured
> almost nine feet in length and weighed 2,016 pounds. That beast, which
> washed ashore in 1988, is believed to have been about 100 years old
> when it died.
> END QUOTE:
That's a lot of soup. But the one that washed ashore was obviously a
sea turtle. Carbonemys was a fresh-water species- essentially, the
Snapping Turtle from Hell.
> > > "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
> > > million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
> > > size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
> > > Chris
> > QUOTE:
> > Those are some big critters. But if you think Carbonemys was the
> > biggest turtle that ever lived, think again. According to the website
> > of the National Museum of Wales, the largest turtle on record measured
> > almost nine feet in length and weighed 2,016 pounds. That beast, which
> > washed ashore in 1988, is believed to have been about 100 years old
> > when it died.
> > END QUOTE:
> That's a lot of soup. But the one that washed ashore was obviously a
> sea turtle. Carbonemys was a fresh-water species- essentially, the
> Snapping Turtle from Hell.
Nope. That honor goes to my darling little testudine pet "Mohel".
> > > > "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
> > > > million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
> > > > size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
> > > > Chris
> > > QUOTE:
> > > Those are some big critters. But if you think Carbonemys was the
> > > biggest turtle that ever lived, think again. According to the website
> > > of the National Museum of Wales, the largest turtle on record measured
> > > almost nine feet in length and weighed 2,016 pounds. That beast, which
> > > washed ashore in 1988, is believed to have been about 100 years old
> > > when it died.
> > > END QUOTE:
> > That's a lot of soup. But the one that washed ashore was obviously a
> > sea turtle. Carbonemys was a fresh-water species- essentially, the
> > Snapping Turtle from Hell.
> Nope. That honor goes to my darling little testudine pet "Mohel".
>>> "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
>>> million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
>>> size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
>>> Chris
>> QUOTE:
>> Those are some big critters. But if you think Carbonemys was the
>> biggest turtle that ever lived, think again. According to the website
>> of the National Museum of Wales, the largest turtle on record measured
>> almost nine feet in length and weighed 2,016 pounds. That beast, which
>> washed ashore in 1988, is believed to have been about 100 years old
>> when it died.
>> END QUOTE:
> That's a lot of soup. But the one that washed ashore was obviously a
> sea turtle. Carbonemys was a fresh-water species- essentially, the
> Snapping Turtle from Hell.
> >>> "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
> >>> million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
> >>> size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
> >>> Chris
> >> QUOTE:
> >> Those are some big critters. But if you think Carbonemys was the
> >> biggest turtle that ever lived, think again. According to the website
> >> of the National Museum of Wales, the largest turtle on record measured
> >> almost nine feet in length and weighed 2,016 pounds. That beast, which
> >> washed ashore in 1988, is believed to have been about 100 years old
> >> when it died.
> >> END QUOTE:
> > That's a lot of soup. But the one that washed ashore was obviously a
> > sea turtle. Carbonemys was a fresh-water species- essentially, the
> > Snapping Turtle from Hell.
>>>>> "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
>>>>> million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
>>>>> size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
>>>>> Chris
>>>> QUOTE:
>>>> Those are some big critters. But if you think Carbonemys was the
>>>> biggest turtle that ever lived, think again. According to the website
>>>> of the National Museum of Wales, the largest turtle on record measured
>>>> almost nine feet in length and weighed 2,016 pounds. That beast, which
>>>> washed ashore in 1988, is believed to have been about 100 years old
>>>> when it died.
>>>> END QUOTE:
>>> That's a lot of soup. But the one that washed ashore was obviously a
>>> sea turtle. Carbonemys was a fresh-water species- essentially, the
>>> Snapping Turtle from Hell.
> An American Marine? They're said to be tough and not very tasty.
Those are leathernecks. I once worked on a sea turtle research project with a marine who hated water. Go figure.
I only got to see one leatherback actually in the nesting process and that was a few years after I no longer worked on the project. Awesome sight. They were fitting it with a satellite vest for tracking purposes.
>>>>> "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
>>>>> million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
>>>>> size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
>>>>> Chris
>>>> QUOTE:
>>>> Those are some big critters. But if you think Carbonemys was the
>>>> biggest turtle that ever lived, think again. According to the website
>>>> of the National Museum of Wales, the largest turtle on record measured
>>>> almost nine feet in length and weighed 2,016 pounds. That beast, which
>>>> washed ashore in 1988, is believed to have been about 100 years old
>>>> when it died.
>>>> END QUOTE:
>>> That's a lot of soup. But the one that washed ashore was obviously a
>>> sea turtle. Carbonemys was a fresh-water species- essentially, the
>>> Snapping Turtle from Hell.
>> Nope. That honor goes to my darling little testudine pet "Mohel".
> "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
> million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
> size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
That's actually much smaller than Archelon, so I'm not sure what all the fuss is about.
> > "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
> > million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
> > size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
> That's actually much smaller than Archelon, so I'm not sure what all the
> fuss is about.
Again, sea turtles grow considerably larger than fresh water turtles.
While it might not be comparing apples and oranges, it does seem like
comparing oranges and clementines.
>> "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
>> million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
>> size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
>> Chris
> QUOTE:
> Those are some big critters. But if you think Carbonemys was the
> biggest turtle that ever lived, think again. According to the website
> of the National Museum of Wales, the largest turtle on record measured
> almost nine feet in length and weighed 2,016 pounds. That beast, which
> washed ashore in 1988, is believed to have been about 100 years old
> when it died.
> END QUOTE:
[quote] Last observed by scientists in the wild in Cambodia in 2003, Cantor's soft shelled turtles can grow up to 6 feet in length and weigh more than 110 pounds. Only a few records of the species exist for Laos, and it appears to have disappeared across much of its former range in Vietnam and Thailand. [/quote]
[quote]Update to the "largest freshwater turtle" with documentation
The largest freshwater turtle recorded to date is the Yangtze Giant Softshell (Rafetus swinhoei) male in Hoan Kiem Lake in Hanoi, Vietnam. He was captured in 2011 to treat some wounds and was released later in the year.
Here is some of the data recorded for this turtle:
Total Length = 185 cm (73 inches)
Carapace Length = 125 cm (49 inches)
Carapace width = 99 cm (39 inches)
Tail length = 35 cm (14 inches)
Weight = 169 kg (373 lbs) [/quote]
And Galapagos tortoises are no slouch for land lubbers:
>>> "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
>>> million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
>>> size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
>> That's actually much smaller than Archelon, so I'm not sure what all the
>> fuss is about.
> Again, sea turtles grow considerably larger than fresh water turtles.
> While it might not be comparing apples and oranges, it does seem like
> comparing oranges and clementines.
Tortoises and softshells can get pretty big and maybe alligator snappers, but how much of the really big ones is lore or tall tales versus documented cases? Leatherbacks blow them all out of the water.
>> "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
>> million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
>> size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
> That's actually much smaller than Archelon, so I'm not sure what all the
> fuss is about.
And Archelon got to co-star with Raquel Welch in a movie.
-- Mark Isaak eciton (at) curioustaxonomy (dot) net
"It is certain, from experience, that the smallest grain of natural
honesty and benevolence has more effect on men's conduct, than the most
pompous views suggested by theological theories and systems." - D. Hume
>> "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
>> million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
>> size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
> That's actually much smaller than Archelon, so I'm not sure what all the
> fuss is about.
Hah! Gamera would chomp on Archelon like a tasty jawbreaker!
> >> "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
> >> million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
> >> size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
> > That's actually much smaller than Archelon, so I'm not sure what all the
> > fuss is about.
> Hah! Gamera would chomp on Archelon like a tasty jawbreaker!
>>>> "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
>>>> million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
>>>> size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
>>> That's actually much smaller than Archelon, so I'm not sure what all the
>>> fuss is about.
>> Hah! Gamera would chomp on Archelon like a tasty jawbreaker!
>> Height 60 80 metres
>> Weight c. 5,500 tons
>> Air speed Mach 3
>> --
>> *Hemidactylus*
> 60-80 meters in height was when he was standing upright on his hind
> legs. Mach 3 is likely a low estimate because he was rocket plasma
> powered.
> Ron Okimoto
Gamera never existed. I did an extensive bible code search for "Gamera is real" and did not find one reference.
I did find out that Margaret Truman, president Harry Truman's daughter wrote most of the book.
> >>>> "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about five
> >>>> million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
> >>>> size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
> >>> That's actually much smaller than Archelon, so I'm not sure what all the
> >>> fuss is about.
> >> Hah! Gamera would chomp on Archelon like a tasty jawbreaker!
> >> Height 60 80 metres
> >> Weight c. 5,500 tons
> >> Air speed Mach 3
> >> --
> >> *Hemidactylus*
> > 60-80 meters in height was when he was standing upright on his hind
> > legs. Mach 3 is likely a low estimate because he was rocket plasma
> > powered.
> > Ron Okimoto
> Gamera never existed. I did an extensive bible code search for "Gamera
> is real" and did not find one reference.
> I did find out that Margaret Truman, president Harry Truman's daughter
> wrote most of the book.
The next thing you will be claiming is that there is no Santa Claus.
Last week I saw a web article on the FDA approval of Transgenic
salmon. Apparently there should be a decision soon. The author was
against having the FDA give the fish the OK. One of the reasons given
was that even though the commercial fish would be infertile triploid
females the claim was that Jurassic Park demonstrated how much you
could trust that from keeping the genes out of the wild population. I
guess that the Flintstones is real life for some people. You can even
go to the creation museum in Kentucky and see displays with children
playing with deinonychus. I wonder if they will update the raptors
and give them feathers.
> On 05/18/2012 03:36 PM, Tom McDonald wrote:
>> On May 18, 1:15 pm, wiki trix<wikit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On May 18, 12:17 pm, chris thompson<chris.linthomp...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On May 18, 7:01 am, Ron O<rokim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> On May 18, 4:20 am, chris thompson<chris.linthomp...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about
>>>>>> five
>>>>>> million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
>>>>>> size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>> QUOTE:
>>>>> Those are some big critters. But if you think Carbonemys was the
>>>>> biggest turtle that ever lived, think again. According to the website
>>>>> of the National Museum of Wales, the largest turtle on record measured
>>>>> almost nine feet in length and weighed 2,016 pounds. That beast, which
>>>>> washed ashore in 1988, is believed to have been about 100 years old
>>>>> when it died.
>>>>> END QUOTE:
>>>> That's a lot of soup. But the one that washed ashore was obviously a
>>>> sea turtle. Carbonemys was a fresh-water species- essentially, the
>>>> Snapping Turtle from Hell.
>>> Nope. That honor goes to my darling little testudine pet "Mohel".
>> Remind me not to skinny-dip in your pool.
> And don't let Mohel jump up in your lap.
I rescued a snapping turtle, once, while riding a motorcycle. It is very difficult to ride a motorcycle one handed while holding down an angry snapper on the gas tank. I had to ride about half a mile to find a suitable place to release it. I found it on a busy road near my house. Box turtles (tortoises) are much easier to handle. My gas tank got pretty scratched up.
Klaus
> > On 05/18/2012 03:36 PM, Tom McDonald wrote:
> >> On May 18, 1:15 pm, wiki trix<wikit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On May 18, 12:17 pm, chris thompson<chris.linthomp...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> On May 18, 7:01 am, Ron O<rokim...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>>> On May 18, 4:20 am, chris thompson<chris.linthomp...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about
> >>>>>> five
> >>>>>> million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
> >>>>>> size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
> >>>>>> Chris
> >>>>> QUOTE:
> >>>>> Those are some big critters. But if you think Carbonemys was the
> >>>>> biggest turtle that ever lived, think again. According to the website
> >>>>> of the National Museum of Wales, the largest turtle on record measured
> >>>>> almost nine feet in length and weighed 2,016 pounds. That beast, which
> >>>>> washed ashore in 1988, is believed to have been about 100 years old
> >>>>> when it died.
> >>>>> END QUOTE:
> >>>> That's a lot of soup. But the one that washed ashore was obviously a
> >>>> sea turtle. Carbonemys was a fresh-water species- essentially, the
> >>>> Snapping Turtle from Hell.
> >>> Nope. That honor goes to my darling little testudine pet "Mohel".
> >> Remind me not to skinny-dip in your pool.
> > And don't let Mohel jump up in your lap.
> I rescued a snapping turtle, once, while riding a motorcycle. It is very
> difficult to ride a motorcycle one handed while holding down an angry
> snapper on the gas tank. I had to ride about half a mile to find a
> suitable place to release it. I found it on a busy road near my house.
Just to make sure, given the name of the thread, the "it" refers to
the turtle, not the place?
Turtles _do_ look a bit like VWs, which may have fooled you in
thinking a busy road is their natural habitat :o)
> On May 20, 7:00 am, Klaus Hellnick <khelSPAMln...@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> > On 5/18/2012 8:55 PM, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
> > > On 05/18/2012 03:36 PM, Tom McDonald wrote:
> > >> On May 18, 1:15 pm, wiki trix<wikit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> On May 18, 12:17 pm, chris thompson<chris.linthomp...@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>> On May 18, 7:01 am, Ron O<rokim...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >>>>> On May 18, 4:20 am, chris thompson<chris.linthomp...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>> "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about
> > >>>>>> five
> > >>>>>> million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
> > >>>>>> size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
> > >>>>>> Chris
> > >>>>> QUOTE:
> > >>>>> Those are some big critters. But if you think Carbonemys was the
> > >>>>> biggest turtle that ever lived, think again. According to the website
> > >>>>> of the National Museum of Wales, the largest turtle on record measured
> > >>>>> almost nine feet in length and weighed 2,016 pounds. That beast, which
> > >>>>> washed ashore in 1988, is believed to have been about 100 years old
> > >>>>> when it died.
> > >>>>> END QUOTE:
> > >>>> That's a lot of soup. But the one that washed ashore was obviously a
> > >>>> sea turtle. Carbonemys was a fresh-water species- essentially, the
> > >>>> Snapping Turtle from Hell.
> > >>> Nope. That honor goes to my darling little testudine pet "Mohel".
> > >> Remind me not to skinny-dip in your pool.
> > > And don't let Mohel jump up in your lap.
> > I rescued a snapping turtle, once, while riding a motorcycle. It is very
> > difficult to ride a motorcycle one handed while holding down an angry
> > snapper on the gas tank. I had to ride about half a mile to find a
> > suitable place to release it. I found it on a busy road near my house.
> Just to make sure, given the name of the thread, the "it" refers to
> the turtle, not the place?
> Turtles _do_ look a bit like VWs, which may have fooled you in
> thinking a busy road is their natural habitat :o)
It does read as if the suitable habitat he found was a busy highway.
There is some type of pond turtle migration that may be an annual
migration event where hundreds of turtles try to cross the 4 lane
divided highway between Arkansas and Tulsa OK. It is sort of a
gruesome slaughter. The turtles seem to want to cross from south to
north. Quite a few get across the East bound lanes to end up as road
kill on the West bound lanes, so my guess is that a lot of turtles
make it across. My guess is that it used to be even worse in terms of
kill count, but there can't be much of the population left to keep
doing it.
> On May 20, 1:58 am, Burkhard<b.scha...@ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>> On May 20, 7:00 am, Klaus Hellnick<khelSPAMln...@sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>> On 5/18/2012 8:55 PM, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
>>>> On 05/18/2012 03:36 PM, Tom McDonald wrote:
>>>>> On May 18, 1:15 pm, wiki trix<wikit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On May 18, 12:17 pm, chris thompson<chris.linthomp...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On May 18, 7:01 am, Ron O<rokim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On May 18, 4:20 am, chris thompson<chris.linthomp...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "The turtle is believed to have lived 60 million years ago--about
>>>>>>>>> five
>>>>>>>>> million years after the dinosaurs vanished. Its skull is about the
>>>>>>>>> size of a football and its shell measures 5'7"."
>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>> QUOTE:
>>>>>>>> Those are some big critters. But if you think Carbonemys was the
>>>>>>>> biggest turtle that ever lived, think again. According to the website
>>>>>>>> of the National Museum of Wales, the largest turtle on record measured
>>>>>>>> almost nine feet in length and weighed 2,016 pounds. That beast, which
>>>>>>>> washed ashore in 1988, is believed to have been about 100 years old
>>>>>>>> when it died.
>>>>>>>> END QUOTE:
>>>>>>> That's a lot of soup. But the one that washed ashore was obviously a
>>>>>>> sea turtle. Carbonemys was a fresh-water species- essentially, the
>>>>>>> Snapping Turtle from Hell.
>>>>>> Nope. That honor goes to my darling little testudine pet "Mohel".
>>>>> Remind me not to skinny-dip in your pool.
>>>> And don't let Mohel jump up in your lap.
>>> I rescued a snapping turtle, once, while riding a motorcycle. It is very
>>> difficult to ride a motorcycle one handed while holding down an angry
>>> snapper on the gas tank. I had to ride about half a mile to find a
>>> suitable place to release it. I found it on a busy road near my house.
>> Just to make sure, given the name of the thread, the "it" refers to
>> the turtle, not the place?
>> Turtles _do_ look a bit like VWs, which may have fooled you in
>> thinking a busy road is their natural habitat :o)
> It does read as if the suitable habitat he found was a busy highway.
> There is some type of pond turtle migration that may be an annual
> migration event where hundreds of turtles try to cross the 4 lane
> divided highway between Arkansas and Tulsa OK. It is sort of a
> gruesome slaughter. The turtles seem to want to cross from south to
> north. Quite a few get across the East bound lanes to end up as road
> kill on the West bound lanes, so my guess is that a lot of turtles
> make it across. My guess is that it used to be even worse in terms of
> kill count, but there can't be much of the population left to keep
> doing it.
> Ron Okimoto
>>> Box turtles (tortoises) are much easier to handle. My gas tank got
>>> pretty scratched up.
>>> Klaus
There is a large drainage ditch, with much vegetation, running just outside my subdivision, that leads towards a wooded area. I release many snakes and turtles there. The snapping turtle was the trickiest relocation. Besides the very sharp and powerful beak (aided by long neck and bad attitude), snapping turtles also have big claws and strong legs. I like animals and will rescue them whenever they are in trouble in a developed area. By rescue, I mean that I give them first aid, if they are injured, then transport them to an environment where they are able to fend for themselves. I am not a "collector", nor do I try to make pets of them. I feel obligated to do this because humans created an environment where the an not cope, and it is not the animal's fault if it is trapped on a roadway. I feel wild animals should be allowed to live out their lives in an environment they are equipped to deal with. I am not a fanatical environmentalist and I think humans have a right to look after themselves, as well. My morals are not from an old, self contradictory book, or fear of punishment. Rather, I think they are based on empathy.
Klaus
> There is a large drainage ditch, with much vegetation, running just > outside my subdivision, that leads towards a wooded area. I release many > snakes and turtles there. The snapping turtle was the trickiest > relocation. Besides the very sharp and powerful beak (aided by long neck > and bad attitude), snapping turtles also have big claws and strong legs. > I like animals and will rescue them whenever they are in trouble in a > developed area. By rescue, I mean that I give them first aid, if they > are injured, then transport them to an environment where they are able > to fend for themselves. I am not a "collector", nor do I try to make > pets of them. I feel obligated to do this because humans created an > environment where the an not cope, and it is not the animal's fault if > it is trapped on a roadway. I feel wild animals should be allowed to > live out their lives in an environment they are equipped to deal with. I > am not a fanatical environmentalist and I think humans have a right to > look after themselves, as well. My morals are not from an old, self > contradictory book, or fear of punishment. Rather, I think they are > based on empathy.
> Klaus
There is a cult of people who gather snapping turtles by reaching under the banks of creeks and such places where the turtles rest. I have also heard that you can learn all about the sport by finding one of those old Southern gas stations that serve as community gathering places and ask for Lefty.
Walter Bushell wrote:
> In article <jpavbs$31...@news.albasani.net>,
> Klaus Hellnick <khelSPAMln...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> There is a large drainage ditch, with much vegetation, running just >> outside my subdivision, that leads towards a wooded area. I release many >> snakes and turtles there. The snapping turtle was the trickiest >> relocation. Besides the very sharp and powerful beak (aided by long neck >> and bad attitude), snapping turtles also have big claws and strong legs. >> I like animals and will rescue them whenever they are in trouble in a >> developed area. By rescue, I mean that I give them first aid, if they >> are injured, then transport them to an environment where they are able >> to fend for themselves. I am not a "collector", nor do I try to make >> pets of them. I feel obligated to do this because humans created an >> environment where the an not cope, and it is not the animal's fault if >> it is trapped on a roadway. I feel wild animals should be allowed to >> live out their lives in an environment they are equipped to deal with. I >> am not a fanatical environmentalist and I think humans have a right to >> look after themselves, as well. My morals are not from an old, self >> contradictory book, or fear of punishment. Rather, I think they are >> based on empathy.
>> Klaus
> There is a cult of people who gather snapping turtles by reaching > under the banks of creeks and such places where the turtles rest. I > have also heard that you can learn all about the sport by finding one > of those old Southern gas stations that serve as community gathering > places and ask for Lefty.
Are you sure you're not thinking of the noodlers trying to catch monster
catfish with their forearms? Surely not even rednecks are going to go
poking blindly around for snappers.
> I rescued a snapping turtle, once, while riding a motorcycle. It is very
> difficult to ride a motorcycle one handed while holding down an angry
> snapper on the gas tank. I had to ride about half a mile to find a
> suitable place to release it. I found it on a busy road near my house.
> Box turtles (tortoises) are much easier to handle. My gas tank got
> pretty scratched up.
> Klaus
A friend of mine rescued a sea gull that had a foot caught in a tin can and the bird made him cry.
He was carrying it to a release point and it reached up and bit him, one half of the beak going into each nostril and it did not let go.
