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Dec 28, 2009, 12:06:38 PM12/28/09
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We need a new moderator here.

I nominate Nashton.

Kleuskes & Moos

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Dec 28, 2009, 12:16:04 PM12/28/09
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On 28 dec, 18:06, I AM <yost...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> We need a new moderator here.
>
> I nominate Nashton.

I very much doubt moderation of t.o. is decided upon democratically.
If it is, i very much doubt Nashton will gather enough support.

Note: moderating talk.origins is not a political, but only a technical
function, which, by and large, is taken care of by a bot.

See http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/e2b80cdebe501de1?hl=en&pli=1

I AM

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Dec 28, 2009, 12:22:46 PM12/28/09
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On Dec 28, 12:16�pm, "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleu...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> On 28 dec, 18:06, I AM <yost...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > We need a new moderator here.
>
> > I nominate Nashton.
>
> I very much doubt moderation of t.o. is decided upon democratically.

You don't realize the pull I have, do you?

Inez

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Dec 28, 2009, 12:28:22 PM12/28/09
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Approximately equal to a tree frog in draft harness.

David Iain Greig

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Dec 28, 2009, 12:35:48 PM12/28/09
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I AM <yos...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> We need a new moderator here.
>
> I nominate Nashton.

I second this nomination. Please let me know if you need help
with the RFD.

--D.

--
david iain greig dgr...@ediacara.org
moderator, talk.origins sp4 kox
http://www.ediacara.org/~dgreig arbor plena alouattarum

David Iain Greig

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Dec 28, 2009, 12:40:04 PM12/28/09
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He's got my vote, for one.

--D. 'a man, a plan, a Diazepam*, I AM'


* ok, Thorazine would likely be a better choice but doesn't scan

Caranx latus

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Dec 28, 2009, 12:44:51 PM12/28/09
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As much as that? Impressive.

Glenn

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Dec 28, 2009, 12:49:50 PM12/28/09
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On Dec 28, 10:35�am, David Iain Greig <dgr...@ediacara.org> wrote:

> I AM <yost...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > We need a new moderator here.
>
> > I nominate Nashton.
>
> I second this nomination. � Please let me know if you need help
> with the RFD.
>
Don't be a rollock.

All-Seeing-I

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Dec 28, 2009, 12:54:13 PM12/28/09
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On Dec 28, 11:06�am, I AM <yost...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> We need a new moderator here.
>
> I nominate Nashton.

aye aye. nominated.


Will in New Haven

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Dec 28, 2009, 1:41:05 PM12/28/09
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Well, you pull. But after a few pulls your eyes get all glassy. Now
shut the fuck up.

--
Will in New Haven

chris thompson

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Dec 28, 2009, 1:59:55 PM12/28/09
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On Dec 28, 12:22 pm, I AM <yost...@hotmail.com> wrote:

If you suck hard enough it can seem like pulling, I guess.

Chris

Ye Old One

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Dec 28, 2009, 2:55:31 PM12/28/09
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Now we really know you are nuts.

--
Bob.

You couldn't get a clue during the clue mating season in a field full
of horny clues if you smeared your body with clue musk and did the
clue mating dance.

Ye Old One

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Dec 28, 2009, 2:56:05 PM12/28/09
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On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:22:46 -0800 (PST), I AM <yos...@hotmail.com>

enriched this group when s/he wrote:

Zero.


--
Bob.

If brains were taxed, you would get a rebate.

Boikat

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Dec 28, 2009, 3:23:02 PM12/28/09
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On Dec 28, 11:06�am, I AM <yost...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> We need a new moderator here.
>
> I nominate Nashton.

Sorry, the possition is not avaiable, and any prospective moderator
need a functioning brain.

Boikat

Boikat

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Dec 28, 2009, 3:23:56 PM12/28/09
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Since nobody really cares, apparently not much.

Boikat

Mitchell Coffey

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Dec 28, 2009, 3:31:28 PM12/28/09
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On Dec 28, 3:23�pm, Boikat <boi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Dec 28, 11:06 am, I AM <yost...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > We need a new moderator here.
>
> > I nominate Nashton.
>
> Sorry, the position is not available, and any prospective moderator
> needs a functioning brain.
>
> Boikat

To answer the obvious question, we have DIG's family held hostage.

Mitchell Coffey

raven1

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Dec 28, 2009, 3:49:36 PM12/28/09
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On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:22:46 -0800 (PST), I AM <yos...@hotmail.com>
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You're pulling our legs pretty hard at the moment.

All-seeing-I

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Dec 28, 2009, 4:07:39 PM12/28/09
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On Dec 28, 12:59�pm, chris thompson <chris.linthomp...@gmail.com>

Where have you been hiding this sense of humor? Do tell.


raven1

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Dec 28, 2009, 4:17:02 PM12/28/09
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Oh crap, I forgot to arrange the food deliveries over the holidays!

Glenn

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Dec 28, 2009, 4:24:34 PM12/28/09
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On Dec 28, 2:17�pm, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:31:28 -0800 (PST), Mitchell Coffey
>
> <m.cof...@starpower.net> wrote:
> >On Dec 28, 3:23 pm, Boikat <boi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> On Dec 28, 11:06 am, I AM <yost...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > We need a new moderator here.
>
> >> > I nominate Nashton.
>
> >> Sorry, the position is not available, and any prospective moderator
> >> needs a functioning brain.
>
> >> Boikat
>
> >To answer the obvious question, we have DIG's family held hostage.
>
> Oh crap, I forgot to arrange the food deliveries over the holidays!

That cinches it.

Mitchell Coffey

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Dec 28, 2009, 4:23:46 PM12/28/09
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On Dec 28, 4:17�pm, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:31:28 -0800 (PST), Mitchell Coffey
>
> <m.cof...@starpower.net> wrote:
> >On Dec 28, 3:23 pm, Boikat <boi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> On Dec 28, 11:06 am, I AM <yost...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > We need a new moderator here.
>
> >> > I nominate Nashton.
>
> >> Sorry, the position is not available, and any prospective moderator
> >> needs a functioning brain.
>
> >> Boikat
>
> >To answer the obvious question, we have DIG's family held hostage.
>
> Oh crap, I forgot to arrange the food deliveries over the holidays!

This is a most unfortunate mishap but you didn't have to announce it
where DIG could read it.

Mitchell Coffey

Greg G.

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Dec 28, 2009, 5:59:15 PM12/28/09
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On Dec 28, 12:06�pm, I AM <yost...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> We need a new moderator here.
>
> I nominate Nashton.

NashTon is the golaszewski sock account he uses in this forum.

Ron O

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Dec 28, 2009, 6:52:09 PM12/28/09
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On Dec 28, 11:06�am, I AM <yost...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> We need a new moderator here.
>
> I nominate Nashton.

The rollocks are going to eat your brain if you keep posting. They
have already gotten Tapestry and Great Dayne and probably Michael by
now.

Ron Okimoto

David Hare-Scott

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Dec 28, 2009, 6:53:58 PM12/28/09
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I suppose it depends on what you are pulling. If it it is pulling pud then
you will have plenty of competition here so don't bet too heavily on
yourself.

David

Paul J Gans

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Dec 28, 2009, 10:34:02 PM12/28/09
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David Iain Greig <dgr...@ediacara.org> wrote:
>I AM <yos...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> We need a new moderator here.
>>
>> I nominate Nashton.

>I second this nomination. Please let me know if you need help
>with the RFD.

Could someone head north and make sure DIG is still chained
to Darwin? The spells must be wearing off.

--
--- Paul J. Gans, who mildly moderates a small mailing list and
has sympathy for moderators.

Paul J Gans

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Dec 28, 2009, 10:37:27 PM12/28/09
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May I politely ask that this term has outlived its usefulness?

I am aware that most of you think it is a made up term. In
fact (with a slightly different spelling) it is a family name
somewhat closely related to mine.

--
--- Paul J. Gans

Caranx latus

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Dec 28, 2009, 10:50:25 PM12/28/09
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Paul J Gans wrote:
> David Iain Greig <dgr...@ediacara.org> wrote:
>> I AM <yos...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> We need a new moderator here.
>>>
>>> I nominate Nashton.
>
>> I second this nomination. Please let me know if you need help
>> with the RFD.
>
> Could someone head north and make sure DIG is still chained
> to Darwin? The spells must be wearing off.

The webcam shows that he is still there and that this evening's gruel
was delivered more or less on time.

john wilkins

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Dec 29, 2009, 12:56:39 AM12/29/09
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Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:
> David Iain Greig <dgr...@ediacara.org> wrote:
> >I AM <yos...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> We need a new moderator here.
> >>
> >> I nominate Nashton.
>
> >I second this nomination. Please let me know if you need help
> >with the RFD.
>
> Could someone head north and make sure DIG is still chained
> to Darwin? The spells must be wearing off.

He can't get out of the ritual circles. I painted them in hard wearing
outdoor blood and salt mix, no need to repaint for a century.

Glenn

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Dec 29, 2009, 1:09:06 AM12/29/09
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On Dec 28, 8:37�pm, Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:
I agree. No intent to offend (in that manner).


chris thompson

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Dec 29, 2009, 8:54:14 AM12/29/09
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On Dec 29, 12:56�am, john wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:
>
> > David Iain Greig <dgr...@ediacara.org> wrote:
> > >I AM <yost...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> We need a new moderator here.
>
> > >> I nominate Nashton.
>
> > >I second this nomination. � Please let me know if you need help
> > >with the RFD.
>
> > Could someone head north and make sure DIG is still chained
> > to Darwin? �The spells must be wearing off.
>
> He can't get out of the ritual circles. I painted them in hard wearing
> outdoor blood and salt mix, no need to repaint for a century.

Has anyone been checking the tapes to make sure Larry Moran hasn't
been at the pentacles again?

Chris

Michael

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Dec 29, 2009, 9:16:03 AM12/29/09
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On Dec 28, 10:34�pm, Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:
> David Iain Greig <dgr...@ediacara.org> wrote:
>
> >I AM <yost...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> We need a new moderator here.
>
> >> I nominate Nashton.
> >I second this nomination. � Please let me know if you need help
> >with the RFD.
>
> Could someone head north and make sure DIG is still chained
> to Darwin? �

No more than the galapogos is chained to evolution.

Paul J Gans

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Dec 29, 2009, 12:48:34 PM12/29/09
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Glad to hear that. I was getting worried.

Paul J Gans

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Dec 29, 2009, 12:53:44 PM12/29/09
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Good. They'll outlast me, and probably so will talk.origins.

Michael

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Dec 29, 2009, 12:53:16 PM12/29/09
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The ayes have it.

Michael

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Dec 29, 2009, 12:52:54 PM12/29/09
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On Dec 28, 12:35�pm, David Iain Greig <dgr...@ediacara.org> wrote:
> I AM <yost...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > We need a new moderator here.
>
> > I nominate Nashton.
>
> I second this nomination. �

Motion will carry with another second.
Let me look through the thread.

Paul J Gans

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Dec 29, 2009, 12:54:23 PM12/29/09
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None taken, but I felt that enough was enough.

Paul J Gans

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Dec 29, 2009, 1:05:28 PM12/29/09
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He's certainly not been *here* for a long time.

Last I heard he'd been entombed in a tree, Merlin-style.

David Iain Greig

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Dec 30, 2009, 8:46:31 PM12/30/09
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Well, no, you have to follow the normal RFD process for
changing moderators on a USENET group. I will, however
support you creating the RFD and agree to vote for it.
As I am the current moderator, my support for such an
RFD is more or less needed or it'll get binned, in the
absence of some evidence I have abandoned the group or
the like.

So get cracking on the RFD.

--D.

--
david iain greig dgr...@ediacara.org
moderator, talk.origins sp4 kox
http://www.ediacara.org/~dgreig arbor plena alouattarum

VoiceOfReason

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Dec 30, 2009, 9:00:04 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 28, 12:28�pm, Inez <savagemouse...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Dec 28, 9:22�am, I AM <yost...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 28, 12:16�pm, "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleu...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
> > > On 28 dec, 18:06, I AM <yost...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > We need a new moderator here.
>
> > > > I nominate Nashton.
>
> > > I very much doubt moderation of t.o. is decided upon democratically.
>
> > You don't realize the pull I have, do you?
>
> Approximately equal to a tree frog in draft harness.

LMAO!

chris thompson

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Dec 30, 2009, 10:27:00 PM12/30/09
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> moderator, talk.origins � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � sp4 koxhttp://www.ediacara.org/~dgreig� � � � � � �arbor plena alouattarum

Should be good. He probably thinks "RFD" stands for "Reasons for
Dismissal".

Chris

el cid

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Dec 30, 2009, 11:22:24 PM12/30/09
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> moderator, talk.origins � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � sp4 koxhttp://www.ediacara.org/~dgreig� � � � � � �arbor plena alouattarum

Or how about this

Draft RFD for initial feedback

REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
moderated group talk.origins

This is a [preliminary] Request for Discussion (RFD) for a change the
moderation policy of talk.origins to change it from a moderated to
an unmoderated newsgroup.

NEWSGROUPS LINE:
talk.origins Evolution versus creationism (sometimes hot!).

RATIONALE:

Moderation of talk.origins was an unusual step for a group
in the talk hierarchy. The original purpose of moderation
was to prevent certain abuses related to cross posting. More
is included in the extracted charter below.

According to the original moderation proposal, a revote
on moderation was to be scheduled. This never happened.
(verification please).

Additionally, beyond the original intent of moderation,
the current moderator of talk.origins has assumed the
authority to block individual posters who have behaved
in a manner deemed detrimental to the newsgroup. While
such behavior may be perceived, by the overwhelming
majority of the participants of talk.origins, to be
rightfully censured, no specific authority to take
these actions for the specified offenses was agreed
to at the time of moderation. The offenses are detailed
in the monthly talk.origins FAQ.
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Talk/talk.origins/2007-11/msg04065.html


CHARTER:
see http://www.ediacara.org/~to/charter.html for full charter
*****
CHARTER: talk.origins

No copy of the original charter of talk.origins is currently
available. (Apparently a formal charter was never issued.)

The newsgroup talk.origins is meant as a venue for discussion
of the scientific, religious, and political issues pertaining
to various theories of the origins and development of life and
the universe. Within such basic guidelines, wide-ranging discussions
over a large number of topics are covered, all relating back to
the main purpose of the group.


Given the sometimes contentious nature of such discussions,
a moderation policy has been selected to permit unrestricted
discussions, but to limit crossposting to/from talk.origins.
No crossposts to more than three other groups are permitted. No
content-based considerations are to be made in evaluating
articles for the group, only the number of groups crossposted
to. Any article submitted to talk.origins that is posted to
greater than four (4) newsgroups in either the Newsgroups:
or Followup-To: headers shall be returned to the sender
with an explanation of the crosspost policy of the group.
No alteration of either the Newsgroups: or Followup-To:
header is to be performed; either a post passes the
crosspost-limit or is rejected.

*****


{MODERATION POLICY:}
This proposal is to remove moderation of talk.origins


{MODERATOR INFO:}
Current Moderator
David Iain Greig (dgr...@ediacara.org)

PROCEDURE:
Discontinue moderation

DISTRIBUTION:

This document has (not yet )been posted to the following newsgroups:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals

PROPONENT:

el cid

CHANGE HISTORY:
preliminary draft 30.12.2009


Ron O

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Dec 31, 2009, 12:03:51 AM12/31/09
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> moderator, talk.origins � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � sp4 koxhttp://www.ediacara.org/~dgreig� � � � � � �arbor plena alouattarum

Didn't you block this guy? I Am and Michael seems to be more
manifestations of Great Dayne, and Tapestry et al. Beats me why he
needs to use multiple accounts even when he is trying to get past the
filters. Could be someone imitating the guy, but how likely is that?

Ron Okimoto

David Iain Greig

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Dec 31, 2009, 10:35:20 AM12/31/09
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el cid <elcid...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 30, 8:46�pm, David Iain Greig <dgr...@ediacara.org> wrote:
>> Michael <yos...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Dec 28, 12:35�pm, David Iain Greig <dgr...@ediacara.org> wrote:
>> >> I AM <yost...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > We need a new moderator here.
>>
>> >> > I nominate Nashton.
>>
>> >> I second this nomination. �
>>
>> > Motion will carry with another second.
>> > Let me look through the thread.
>>
>> Well, no, you have to follow the normal RFD process for
>> changing moderators on a USENET group. �I will, however
>> support you creating the RFD and agree to vote for it.
>> As I am the current moderator, my support for such an
>> RFD is more or less needed or it'll get binned, in the
>> absence of some evidence I have abandoned the group or
>> the like.
>>
>
> Draft RFD for initial feedback
>
> REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
> moderated group talk.origins
>
> This is a [preliminary] Request for Discussion (RFD) for a change the
> moderation policy of talk.origins to change it from a moderated to
> an unmoderated newsgroup.
>
> NEWSGROUPS LINE:
> talk.origins Evolution versus creationism (sometimes hot!).
>
> RATIONALE:
>
> Moderation of talk.origins was an unusual step for a group
> in the talk hierarchy. The original purpose of moderation
> was to prevent certain abuses related to cross posting. More
> is included in the extracted charter below.
>
> According to the original moderation proposal, a revote
> on moderation was to be scheduled. This never happened.
> (verification please).

The revote was actually put in place over tale's
more or less statement that he'd ignore it. It
was odd.


> Additionally, beyond the original intent of moderation,
> the current moderator of talk.origins has assumed the
> authority to block individual posters who have behaved
> in a manner deemed detrimental to the newsgroup. While
> such behavior may be perceived, by the overwhelming
> majority of the participants of talk.origins, to be
> rightfully censured, no specific authority to take
> these actions for the specified offenses was agreed
> to at the time of moderation. The offenses are detailed
> in the monthly talk.origins FAQ.
> http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Talk/talk.origins/2007-11/msg04065.html

Moderators are not bound by their charter.
It's a boggling system.

--D.

--
david iain greig dgr...@ediacara.org

Glenn

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Dec 31, 2009, 11:03:57 AM12/31/09
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On Dec 31, 8:35�am, David Iain Greig <dgr...@ediacara.org> wrote:
> el cid <elcidbi...@gmail.com> wrote:
snip

>
> > Additionally, beyond the original intent of moderation,
> > the current moderator of talk.origins has assumed the
> > authority to block individual posters who have behaved
> > in a manner deemed detrimental to the newsgroup. While
> > such behavior may be perceived, by the overwhelming
> > majority of the participants of talk.origins, to be
> > rightfully censured, no specific authority to take
> > these actions for the specified offenses was agreed
> > to at the time of moderation. The offenses are detailed
> > in the monthly talk.origins FAQ.
> >http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Talk/talk.origins/2007-11/msg...

>
> Moderators are not bound by their charter.
> It's a boggling system.
>
Bound to be.

Bob Casanova

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Dec 31, 2009, 1:49:15 PM12/31/09
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:27:00 -0800 (PST), the following
appeared in talk.origins, posted by chris thompson
<chris.li...@gmail.com>:

"Rural Free Delivery"
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

el cid

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Dec 31, 2009, 3:52:31 PM12/31/09
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On Dec 31, 10:35�am, David Iain Greig <dgr...@ediacara.org> wrote:
> >http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Talk/talk.origins/2007-11/msg...

>
> Moderators are not bound by their charter.
> It's a boggling system.

So the people who make the rules have decided that people in
charge of making the rules will have great latitude in
making and following rules --- and you find this boggling?

Bloody Canadian!

John Stockwell

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Dec 31, 2009, 5:39:10 PM12/31/09
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On Dec 28, 10:22�am, I AM <yost...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 28, 12:16�pm, "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleu...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
> > On 28 dec, 18:06, I AM <yost...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > We need a new moderator here.
>
> > > I nominate Nashton.
>
> > I very much doubt moderation of t.o. is decided upon democratically.
>
> You don't realize the pull I have, do you?

Well, maybe you will get a partner someday, and you won't have to pull
it anymore.

John Stockwell

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Dec 31, 2009, 5:39:44 PM12/31/09
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On Dec 28, 10:22�am, I AM <yost...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 28, 12:16�pm, "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleu...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
> > On 28 dec, 18:06, I AM <yost...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > We need a new moderator here.
>
> > > I nominate Nashton.
>
> > I very much doubt moderation of t.o. is decided upon democratically.
>
> You don't realize the pull I have, do you?

No doubt you have a repetitive wrist injury.

-John

chris thompson

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Dec 31, 2009, 5:58:08 PM12/31/09
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On Dec 31, 1:49�pm, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:27:00 -0800 (PST), the following
> appeared in talk.origins, posted by chris thompson
> <chris.linthomp...@gmail.com>:

Retro-Farting Donkeys

Chris

Desertphile

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On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:06:38 -0800 (PST), I AM
<yos...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> We need a new moderator here. I nominate Nashton.

The current moderator is a simple CGI pearl script; Naffoff would
be a step down, as he's stupider.


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"Why aren't resurrections from the dead noteworthy?" -- Jim Rutz

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