"The Quest for Right": A Creationist Attack On Quantum Mechanics
Steven L.
If this has been discussed before, my apologies in advance
]
Here's a different take on creationism/ID: "The Quest for Right," a
multi-volume series on science, attacks Darwinism indirectly, by
attacking quantum mechanics:
"American Atheists base their reasoning on Quantum Interpretation, hand
in hand with Quantum Mathematics. Summoning the dark forces of quantum
mysticism, with mathematical incantations, possesses the power to
bewilder, and thus con, the average persons seemingly at will, into
believing the bizarre and surreal: Z Particles, Neutrinos, Leptons,
Quarks, Weak Bosons, etc. Mystics attempt to pass off quantum abuses as
legitimate science, by expressing the theories in symbolic fashion.
These formula represent the greatest hoax ever pulled upon an
unsuspecting public....The objective....is to expedite the return to
classical physics, by exposing quantum dirty tricks. That is, unethical
behavior or acts,...to undermine and destroy the credibility of Biblical
histories. These dirty tricks include: Absolute dating systems, Big
Bang Theory, Antimatter, and Oort Cloud. These...have no further
station in Science."
[
A more sophisticated way to argue against Darwin is certainly to argue
against modern physics. Without modern physics, you lose astrophysics
too, which enables the author to make the case for YEC. The author goes
on to "prove" that things like red supergiant stars and X-ray pulsars
don't really exist, except in the imagination of scientists.
There is just one little problem that the author has forgotten about:
The integrated circuit chips in his computer, which he used to post his
webpage on the Internet, depend on solid-state electronics for their
function; and solid-state electronics is derived from modern physics.
Specifically, the laser in his DVD drive, which he uses to record the
DVDs that he's distributing from his website, depends on the theory of
quantum mechanics. So I guess the author has "proved" that his computer
does not exist either.
]
--
Steven L.
Email: sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
Vend
> [
> If this has been discussed before, my apologies in advance
> ]
>
> Here's a different take on creationism/ID: "The Quest for Right," a
> multi-volume series on science, attacks Darwinism indirectly, by
> attacking quantum mechanics:
>
> "American Atheists base their reasoning on Quantum Interpretation, hand
> in hand with Quantum Mathematics. Summoning the dark forces of quantum
> mysticism, with mathematical incantations, possesses the power to
> bewilder, and thus con, the average persons seemingly at will, into
> believing the bizarre and surreal: Z Particles, Neutrinos, Leptons,
> Quarks, Weak Bosons, etc. Mystics attempt to pass off quantum abuses as
> legitimate science, by expressing the theories in symbolic fashion.
> These formula represent the greatest hoax ever pulled upon an
> unsuspecting public....The objective....is to expedite the return to
> classical physics, by exposing quantum dirty tricks. That is, unethical
> behavior or acts,...to undermine and destroy the credibility of Biblical
> histories. These dirty tricks include: Absolute dating systems, Big
> Bang Theory, Antimatter, and Oort Cloud. These...have no further
> station in Science."
Translation: "We are too stupid and ignorant to understand quantum
mechanics but we fear that it might show that our collection of bronze
age myths are false, thus we reject it because we don't like it".
> http://www.questforright.com/
>
> [
> A more sophisticated way to argue against Darwin is certainly to argue
> against modern physics. Without modern physics, you lose astrophysics
> too, which enables the author to make the case for YEC. The author goes
> on to "prove" that things like red supergiant stars and X-ray pulsars
> don't really exist, except in the imagination of scientists.
>
> There is just one little problem that the author has forgotten about:
> The integrated circuit chips in his computer, which he used to post his
> webpage on the Internet, depend on solid-state electronics for their
> function; and solid-state electronics is derived from modern physics.
> Specifically, the laser in his DVD drive, which he uses to record the
> DVDs that he's distributing from his website, depends on the theory of
> quantum mechanics. So I guess the author has "proved" that his computer
> does not exist either.
> ]
>
> --
> Steven L.
> Email: sdlit...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net
noshellswill
> [
> If this has been discussed before, my apologies in advance
> ]
>
> Here's a different take on creationism/ID: "The Quest for Right," a
> multi-volume series on science, attacks Darwinism indirectly, by
> attacking quantum mechanics:
>
> <clip>
SL:
What is this you say? Actually, QM makes 19th century materialism very
dicy to support. I mean ... particle wave functions without Higgs bosons?
Materialism becomes a science joke. Not only is there "no G*d up in the
sky", but there is no "mass down below".
nss
*****
Kermit
> [
> If this has been discussed before, my apologies in advance
> ]
>
> Here's a different take on creationism/ID: "The Quest for Right," a
> multi-volume series on science, attacks Darwinism indirectly, by
> attacking quantum mechanics:
>
> "American Atheists base their reasoning on Quantum Interpretation, hand
> in hand with Quantum Mathematics.
Bwahahaha! I suppose he bases his version of Christianity on
Augustine, having learned to read Latin first.
I wonder what I base my non-belief in leprechauns on, and what this
statement has to do with science?
Also, what about my buddy in the university - a devout Christian, and
a PhD in biology, who of course accepted all mainstream science. Based
on the evidence.
> Summoning the dark forces of quantum
> mysticism, with mathematical incantations, possesses the power to
> bewilder, and thus con, the average persons seemingly at will, into
> believing the bizarre and surreal: Z Particles, Neutrinos, Leptons,
> Quarks, Weak Bosons, etc.
But this guy ain't fooled, nope. He knows that the world is not only
intuitive and easily explained in simple concepts (if you don't look
too carefully (he wouldn't anyway)), but they are comprehensible to
*him.
> Mystics attempt to pass off quantum abuses as
> legitimate science, by expressing the theories in symbolic fashion.
Yeesss...
Let's just skip all of the symbolic bamboozling the next time we send
a shuttle into orbit:
"A little to the left, there, Cap'in Bubba"
"Roger that, Billy. How's your Momma doin' with her palpitations?"
> These formula represent the greatest hoax ever pulled upon an
> unsuspecting public....The objective....is to expedite the return to
> classical physics, by exposing quantum dirty tricks. That is, unethical
> behavior or acts,...to undermine and destroy the credibility of Biblical
> histories.
God said nothing about quantum physics, that's true. Didn't say
anything about Democracy or Women's rights either. Or for that matter,
anything bein' wrong with slavery.
> These dirty tricks include: Absolute dating systems, Big
> Bang Theory, Antimatter, and Oort Cloud. These...have no further
> station in Science."
All the scientists with GEDs and mail order PhDs from Brother Phil's
True Christian Academy agree with him.
>
> http://www.questforright.com/
>
> [
> A more sophisticated way to argue against Darwin is certainly to argue
> against modern physics. Without modern physics, you lose astrophysics
> too, which enables the author to make the case for YEC. The author goes
> on to "prove" that things like red supergiant stars and X-ray pulsars
> don't really exist, except in the imagination of scientists.
Sure enough. Look over their shoulders, and you don't see any
pulsating X-rays. Just spots on a screen and squiggly lines on a graph
and numbers and other abstract things.
>
> There is just one little problem that the author has forgotten about:
> The integrated circuit chips in his computer, which he used to post his
> webpage on the Internet, depend on solid-state electronics for their
> function; and solid-state electronics is derived from modern physics.
> Specifically, the laser in his DVD drive, which he uses to record the
> DVDs that he's distributing from his website, depends on the theory of
> quantum mechanics. So I guess the author has "proved" that his computer
> does not exist either.
Lies, lies. Surely those so-called computer scientists just used some
elbow grease and a lot of soldering in the garage... The godless
liberal media just made up all that Satanic fake science to explain
it.
> ]
>
> --
> Steven L.
> Email: sdlit...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net
> Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
I can't do it! I just can't parody people this stupid and hostile to
learning, and I grew up with them.
Kermit
alextangent
> Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
Question for those meat-heads; what happens when one of their God-
fearing students rediscovers the ultraviolet catastrophe (http://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_catastrophe) based on their
Christian God and Bible approved classical physics? Jeez, I thought
we'd left the "Jewish science" stuff behind us after World War II.
--
Regards
Alex McDonald
J. J. Lodder
> [
> If this has been discussed before, my apologies in advance
> ]
>
> Here's a different take on creationism/ID: "The Quest for Right," a
> multi-volume series on science, attacks Darwinism indirectly, by
> attacking quantum mechanics:
>
> "American Atheists base their reasoning on Quantum Interpretation, hand
> in hand with Quantum Mathematics. Summoning the dark forces of quantum
> mysticism, with mathematical incantations, possesses the power to
> bewilder, and thus con, the average persons seemingly at will, into
> believing the bizarre and surreal: Z Particles, Neutrinos, Leptons,
> Quarks, Weak Bosons, etc. Mystics attempt to pass off quantum abuses as
> legitimate science, by expressing the theories in symbolic fashion.
> These formula represent the greatest hoax ever pulled upon an
> unsuspecting public....The objective....is to expedite the return to
> classical physics, by exposing quantum dirty tricks. That is, unethical
> behavior or acts,...to undermine and destroy the credibility of Biblical
> histories. These dirty tricks include: Absolute dating systems, Big
> Bang Theory, Antimatter, and Oort Cloud. These...have no further
> station in Science."
Why do I start thinking about pre-war Aryan Science attacks
on relativity and quantummechanics?
Jan
Guido
> [
> If this has been discussed before, my apologies in advance
> ]
>
> Here's a different take on creationism/ID: "The Quest for Right," a
> multi-volume series on science, attacks Darwinism indirectly, by
> attacking quantum mechanics:
>
> "American Atheists base their reasoning on Quantum Interpretation, hand
> in hand with Quantum Mathematics. Summoning the dark forces of quantum
> mysticism, with mathematical incantations, possesses the power to
> bewilder, and thus con, the average persons seemingly at will, into
> believing the bizarre and surreal: Z Particles, Neutrinos, Leptons,
> Quarks, Weak Bosons, etc.
Oh I see. These particles are observed, therefore they do not exist. His
disbelief in leptons is particularly mind boggling. Is he really denying
the existence of electrons? Pray tell, how does a television work then?
> Mystics attempt to pass off quantum abuses as
> legitimate science, by expressing the theories in symbolic fashion.
> These formula represent the greatest hoax ever pulled upon an
> unsuspecting public....The objective....is to expedite the return to
> classical physics, by exposing quantum dirty tricks.
Go ahead, make my day. Explain, without using quantum mechanics:
- the photoelectric effect
- the double slit experiment, both with light and with electrons
- the cause of radioactivity
- quantum entanglement
- the anomalous electron magnetic moment
- cosmic rays
- the emission spectrum of the hydrogen atom
- and so on and so forth.
> That is, unethical
> behavior or acts,...to undermine and destroy the credibility of Biblical
> histories. These dirty tricks include:
> Absolute dating systems,
Based on observed properties of radioactive substances, not on the
theory of quantum mechanics.
> Big Bang Theory,
A consequence of General Relativity, a theory so different from quantum
mechanics that so far no one has been able to reconcile the two.
> Antimatter,
The existence of which has been proved experimentally far beyond any
reasonable doubt, and is consistent with all of classical physics.
> and Oort Cloud.
Which is modeled using classical physics.
So... out of four dirty tricks, only one involves quantum physics, and
only in the remotest sense possible.
> These...have no further
> station in Science."
>
> http://www.questforright.com/
>
I am amazed at this person's stupidity. Attacking evolutionary biology
is pretty dumb. Attacking physics, certainly the most exact of all the
sciences, is several orders of magnitude dumber than attacking
evolutionary biology.
TomS
<3c87cc73-1a67-4a66...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, Kermit
stated..."
>
>On Dec 27, 5:32 pm, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> [
>> If this has been discussed before, my apologies in advance
>> ]
>>
>> Here's a different take on creationism/ID: "The Quest for Right," a
>> multi-volume series on science, attacks Darwinism indirectly, by
>> attacking quantum mechanics:
>>
>> "American Atheists base their reasoning on Quantum Interpretation, hand
>> in hand with Quantum Mathematics.
>
>Bwahahaha! I suppose he bases his version of Christianity on
>Augustine, having learned to read Latin first.
And there is the famous quotation from Augustine warning against
saying stupid things, "Usually, even a non-Christian knows something
about the earth, ..."
BTW, I just did a search on the web for the quotation, and one of the
places where it is quoted is Wikipedia. I don't know how that got (and
stayed) there.
--
---Tom S.
"As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand."
attributed to Josh Billings
alextangent
Because that's what it is. The script of the videos mirror exactly the
kind of thinking that ruined a generation of scientific thinking in
Europe; the rise of "Deutsche Physik". One enemy has been replaced by
another, but the song remains the same.
So how long before someone proposes the American equivalent of the
Nazi Nuremburg Laws (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremburg_laws)? Oh,
hang on, they have. Apparently you can't stand for high office unless
you have an invisible friend.
--
Regards
Alex McDonald
Jeffrey Turner
Schroedinger had a cat. Cat's are associated with witches. Therefor,
quantum physics is pure black magic.
--Jeff
--
Ignorance, allied with power, is the
most ferocious enemy justice can have.
-James Baldwin
Craig T
> Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
Is nobody else going to call Loki on this? C. David Parsons only
exists in comments made on other pages, and his one page linkless web
site. (Can't even afford www....) The sad thing is, this isn't even
original. There's a group that claims to have overcome all of those
nasty problems that led to quantum physics. http://www.commonsensescience.org
claims to align physics with the Bible, based off of a High School
science fair project made by the leader of the group's son. Junior
caught what the best minds of the 20th Century missed, and we no
longer need quantum wierdness. Sorry "David", some things just can't
be parodied.
John Wilkins
Only when contained in a sealed box containing a quantum detector and a
vial of cyanide. Otherwise all cats are white, and it's white magic.
--
John S. Wilkins, Postdoctoral Research Fellow, Philosophy
University of Queensland - Blog: scienceblogs.com/evolvingthoughts
"He used... sarcasm. He knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor,
bathos, puns, parody, litotes and... satire. He was vicious."
Elf M. Sternberg
> So... out of four dirty tricks, only one involves quantum physics, and
> only in the remotest sense possible.
But... but... the blurbs! "On the cutting edge of Christian
writing!" "A book that will change the world!" Are they lying?
Elf
--
Elf M. Sternberg, Immanentizing the Eschaton since 1988
http://www.pendorwright.com/
"You know how some people treat their body like a temple?
I treat mine like issa amusement park!" - Kei
Andre Lieven
> Guido <NOguyhillS...@PLEASExs4all.nl> writes:
> > So... out of four dirty tricks, only one involves quantum physics, and
> > only in the remotest sense possible.
>
> But... but... the blurbs! "On the cutting edge of Christian
> writing!" "A book that will change the world!" Are they lying?
No, just extraordinarily self made stoopid.
Andre
alextangent
> claims to align physics with the Bible, based off of a High School
> science fair project made by the leader of the group's son. Junior
> caught what the best minds of the 20th Century missed, and we no
> longer need quantum wierdness. Sorry "David", some things just can't
> be parodied.
http://tatepublishing.com/bookstore/book.php?w=978-1-60247-766-7. You
can at least buy volume 1.
--
Regards
Alex McDonald
Robert J. Kolker
> I am amazed at this person's stupidity. Attacking evolutionary biology
> is pretty dumb. Attacking physics, certainly the most exact of all the
> sciences, is several orders of magnitude dumber than attacking
> evolutionary biology.
It is clear why the attack is made. The idea is to discredit any
estimation of the Earth's age that contradicts the Biblical account.
Creationism is not just an attack on the theory of evolution. It is an
attack on science and reason itself. The intent is to move us from the
age of reason back to the age of faith.
In such an age, religious leaders, no doubt inspired by The Holy Spirit,
will tell us what is True and what is not.
Bob Kolker
Vend
> Steven L. wrote:
> > [
> > If this has been discussed before, my apologies in advance
> > ]
>
> > Here's a different take on creationism/ID: "The Quest for Right," a
> > multi-volume series on science, attacks Darwinism indirectly, by
> > attacking quantum mechanics:
>
> > "American Atheists base their reasoning on Quantum Interpretation, hand
> > in hand with Quantum Mathematics. Summoning the dark forces of quantum
> > mysticism, with mathematical incantations, possesses the power to
> > bewilder, and thus con, the average persons seemingly at will, into
> > believing the bizarre and surreal: Z Particles, Neutrinos, Leptons,
> > Quarks, Weak Bosons, etc.
>
> Oh I see. These particles are observed, therefore they do not exist. His
> disbelief in leptons is particularly mind boggling. Is he really denying
> the existence of electrons? Pray tell, how does a television work then?
A television?
What prevents his body from collapsing and falling towards the center
of the earth, if electrons don't exist?
> > Mystics attempt to pass off quantum abuses as
> > legitimate science, by expressing the theories in symbolic fashion.
> > These formula represent the greatest hoax ever pulled upon an
> > unsuspecting public....The objective....is to expedite the return to
> > classical physics, by exposing quantum dirty tricks.
>
> Go ahead, make my day. Explain, without using quantum mechanics:
> - the photoelectric effect
> - the double slit experiment, both with light and with electrons
> - the cause of radioactivity
> - quantum entanglement
> - the anomalous electron magnetic moment
> - cosmic rays
> - the emission spectrum of the hydrogen atom
> - and so on and so forth.
Hummm.............Ha!
Goddidit!.
> > That is, unethical
> > behavior or acts,...to undermine and destroy the credibility of Biblical
> > histories. These dirty tricks include:
> > Absolute dating systems,
>
> Based on observed properties of radioactive substances, not on the
> theory of quantum mechanics.
>
> > Big Bang Theory,
>
> A consequence of General Relativity, a theory so different from quantum
> mechanics that so far no one has been able to reconcile the two.
>
> > Antimatter,
>
> The existence of which has been proved experimentally far beyond any
> reasonable doubt, and is consistent with all of classical physics.
>
> > and Oort Cloud.
>
> Which is modeled using classical physics.
>
> So... out of four dirty tricks, only one involves quantum physics, and
> only in the remotest sense possible.
>
> > These...have no further
> > station in Science."
>
> >http://www.questforright.com/
>
> I am amazed at this person's stupidity. Attacking evolutionary biology
> is pretty dumb. Attacking physics, certainly the most exact of all the
> sciences, is several orders of magnitude dumber than attacking
> evolutionary biology.
It seems that having biologists constantly prove how much stupid,
ignorant and/or dishonest creationists are is not enough for these
fools. They want to drag physicists into the "controversy" even more
than they already are.
Intellectual masochism, maybe.
Walter Bushell
<4432bdf1-d8e6-419d...@1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com>,
Vend <ven...@virgilio.it> wrote:
>
> A television?
> What prevents his body from collapsing and falling towards the center
> of the earth, if electrons don't exist?
What keeps the atoms of body from collapsing due the electrons radiating
their energy away. <poof!>
J. J. Lodder
> Guido wrote:
>
>
> > I am amazed at this person's stupidity. Attacking evolutionary biology
> > is pretty dumb. Attacking physics, certainly the most exact of all the
> > sciences, is several orders of magnitude dumber than attacking
> > evolutionary biology.
>
> It is clear why the attack is made. The idea is to discredit any
> estimation of the Earth's age that contradicts the Biblical account.
> Creationism is not just an attack on the theory of evolution. It is an
> attack on science and reason itself. The intent is to move us from the
> age of reason back to the age of faith.
Did the US ever have an 'age of reason'?
Isn't it the problem that the Enlightenment never got there?
(relatively small groups of people excepted)
Jan
--
Pullman windows no longer exist, but you still can't heave an egg
at an American crowd without hitting a fundamentalis.
J. J. Lodder
No problem, atoms, electrons, radiation, and energy
are not mentioned in the Bible, so there can't be a problem,
Jan
Jim Willemin
news:1i9w923.gdo...@de-ster.xs4all.nl:
> Robert J. Kolker <bobk...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Guido wrote:
>>
>>
>> > I am amazed at this person's stupidity. Attacking evolutionary
>> > biology is pretty dumb. Attacking physics, certainly the most exact
>> > of all the sciences, is several orders of magnitude dumber than
>> > attacking evolutionary biology.
>>
>> It is clear why the attack is made. The idea is to discredit any
>> estimation of the Earth's age that contradicts the Biblical account.
>> Creationism is not just an attack on the theory of evolution. It is
>> an attack on science and reason itself. The intent is to move us from
>> the age of reason back to the age of faith.
>
> Did the US ever have an 'age of reason'?
> Isn't it the problem that the Enlightenment never got there?
> (relatively small groups of people excepted)
>
> Jan
>
Enlightenment? We don't need no steenking enlightenment. Enlightenment
is for all them heathen Buddhists and such commie new-agey types... If
it don't have nuthin to do with guns we don't want it.
PaulBurnett
> [
> If this has been discussed before, my apologies in advance
> ]
>
> Here's a different take on creationism/ID: "The Quest for Right," a
> multi-volume series on science, attacks Darwinism indirectly, by
> attacking quantum mechanics:
The bogus "Quest For Right" ("QFR") comment is nothing more than a
book advertisement posing as a comment. Like the books, the comment
is pseudoscientific babble, with no information content and no
scientific validity whatsoever.
The author of the comment, C. David Parsons (self-described "biblical
scholar and scientist extraordinare"), is also the author of this
bogus "vanity-press type" publication, which is typical Young Earth
Creationist pseudoscience. It is not real science in any sense of the
word.
Read the QFR advertising website, http://questforright.com: The only
really positive review is from one preacher - not a scientist.
Another review is from an editor at the publisher (!), which is a "pay-
for-publishing (="vanity press") publisher: "Tate Publishing &
Enterprises, LLC, is a Christian based, family owned, main-line
publishing organization with a mission to discover and market unknown
authors." - http://www.tatepublishing.com/index.php.
Tate apparently "markets" only to small specialty Christian
bookshops. Tate is by no means an actual scientific publishing
house. The slick ads and website for QFR are probably part of Tate's
marketing ploy. Tate also gets very bad press at
http://www.writers.net/forum/read/13/8577/8577Vf
QFR's website, "http://questforright.com," was registered almost three
years ago, on March 20, 2005, by "David Parsons" (possibly the QFR
author, "C. David Parsons"?) of Smyrna, GA. The e-mail contact for
the "questforright.com" website is "sa...@bradleybuildings.com" of
Smyrna, GA. The e-mail contact for the "bradleybuildings.com" website
is "Clarence Parsons, bradleyb...@aol.com." Any guesses on
whether "C. David Parsons" is also "Clarence Parsons"?
Desertphile
It appears to be a parody.
--
http://desertphile.org
Desertphile's Desert Soliloquy. WARNING: view with plenty of water
"Why aren't resurrections from the dead noteworthy?" -- Jim Rutz
Ben Standeven
> Question for those meat-heads; what happens when one of
> their God-fearing students rediscovers the ultraviolet catastrophe
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_catastrophe) based on
> their Christian God and Bible approved classical physics? Jeez,
> I thought we'd left the "Jewish science" stuff behind us after
> World War II.
>
"If there were no God, all blackbodies would emit infinite amounts of
ultraviolet radiation. Quantum evilutionists try to deny this with
their talk of 'photons' and 'statistical mechanics' [as if physics
could be the result of chance!], but this is just materialistic
propoganda. Science proves the existence of God!"
Ben Standeven
> Steven L. wrote:
> > [
> > If this has been discussed before, my apologies in advance
> > ]
>
> > Here's a different take on creationism/ID: "The Quest for
> > Right," a multi-volume series on science, attacks Darwinism
> > indirectly, by attacking quantum mechanics:
>
> > "American Atheists base their reasoning on Quantum
> > Interpretation, hand in hand with Quantum Mathematics.
> > Summoning the dark forces of quantum mysticism, with
> > mathematical incantations, possesses the power to
> > bewilder, and thus con, the average persons seemingly
> > at will, into believing the bizarre and surreal: Z Particles,
> > Neutrinos, Leptons, Quarks, Weak Bosons, etc.
>
> Oh I see. These particles are observed, therefore they do not
> exist. His disbelief in leptons is particularly mind boggling. Is
> he really denying the existence of electrons? Pray tell, how
> does a television work then?
>
All of these things are obvious to anyone who understands _true_
science...
> > Mystics attempt to pass off quantum abuses as
> > legitimate science, by expressing the theories in symbolic
> > fashion.
> > These formula represent the greatest hoax ever pulled upon an
> > unsuspecting public....The objective....is to expedite the return to
> > classical physics, by exposing quantum dirty tricks.
>
> Go ahead, make my day. Explain, without using quantum
> mechanics:
> - the photoelectric effect
Goddidit
> - the double slit experiment, both with light and with electrons
Goddidit
> - the cause of radioactivity
Goddidit
> - quantum entanglement
Goddidit
> - the anomalous electron magnetic moment
Goddidit
> - cosmic rays
Goddidit
> - the emission spectrum of the hydrogen atom
Goddidit
> - and so on and so forth.
Goddidit
See how easily true science explains all the problems that quantum
mechanics can't handle?
cybe...@aol.com
and The Quest for Right. And no The Quest for Right website was not
and is not part of Tate Publishing and they did not set it up. The
Quest for Right set up that website. Is that all you are good for is
to spread untrue gossip. Can't you say anything constructive?
Hateful remarks only show your ignorance.
On Dec 29 2007, 4:10�pm, PaulBurnett <p...@paulburnett.com> wrote:
> On Dec 27, 5:32�pm, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > [
> > If this has been discussed before, my apologies in advance
> > ]
>
> > Here's a different take on creationism/ID: �"The Quest for Right," a
> > multi-volume series on science, attacks Darwinism indirectly, by
> > attacking quantum mechanics:
>
> The bogus "Quest For Right" ("QFR") comment is nothing more than a
> book advertisement posing as a comment. �Like the books, the comment
> is pseudoscientific babble, with no information content and no
> scientific validity whatsoever.
>
> The author of the comment, C. David Parsons (self-described "biblical
> scholar and scientist extraordinare"), is also the author of this
> bogus "vanity-press type" publication, which is typical Young Earth
> Creationist pseudoscience. �It is not real science in any sense of the
> word.
>
> Read the QFR advertising website,http://questforright.com:�The only
> really positive review is from one preacher - not a scientist.
> Another review is from an editor at the publisher (!), which is a "pay-
> for-publishing (="vanity press") publisher: �"Tate Publishing &
> Enterprises, LLC, is a Christian based, family owned, main-line
> publishing organization with a mission to discover and market unknown
> authors." -http://www.tatepublishing.com/index.php.
>
> Tate apparently "markets" only to small specialty Christian
> bookshops. �Tate is by no means an actual scientific publishing
> house. �The slick ads and website for QFR are probably part of Tate's
> marketing ploy. �Tate also gets very bad press athttp://www.writers.net/forum/read/13/8577/8577Vf
>
> QFR's website, "http://questforright.com," was registered almost three
> years ago, on March 20, 2005, by "David Parsons" (possibly the QFR
> author, "C. David Parsons"?) of Smyrna, GA. �The e-mail �contact for
> the "questforright.com" website is "sa...@bradleybuildings.com" of
> Smyrna, GA. �The e-mail contact for the "bradleybuildings.com" website
> is "Clarence Parsons, bradleybuildi...@aol.com." �Any guesses on
J. J. Lodder
The other way round:
since any material system has a finite number of degrees of freedom
and the radiation field has infinitely many of them
it follows by equipartitition that every material body
must at all times be at zero absolute temperature.
Praise the Lord or Planck (whichever you prefer)
for not being absolutely frozen,
Jan
Richard Smol
wrote:
It's hard to tell nowadays.
RS