I have a new job!
John Wilkins
associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
that the German convention?]
Michael Siemon
John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
It's all right, John; no one expects the German Convention...
John Wilkins
<mlsiemon-E01E65...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
Michael Siemon <mlsi...@sonic.net> wrote:
Organisation, careful paperwork, planning and a ruthless efficiency are
our weapons, among other.
I'm sorry. I'll come in again.
spintronic
Really?
Why not Dr Wilkins, J.D.Wilkins, John Wilkins M.D, or John Wilkins
Ph.D?
And why become a Dr when you get a job, it's surely when you obtain
your professional degree?
Come back when you have your terminal degree.
Kent
Get it right. Herr Dr. Prof.
Congrats. It is a strange fact of life that while looking for a job
almost none exist but after you have one there are many.
John Wilkins
<7aa95dd1-eccb-4492...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
spintronic <spint...@hotmail.com> wrote:
My goodness, you really are uninformed.
I become a *professor*. I already was a doctor (PhD, not MD, which is
not, in my country or yours, a doctoral degree, nor JD, which is a law
degree. I can use "PhD" after my name if I like (I don't, except in
academic contexts), and I do go by Dr Wilkins, especially on airlines.
And because it seems I have to spell out the joke, in German it would
be Herr Doktor Professor Wilkins.
John Wilkins
<d5febb83-bbc9-4b4b...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
Kent <musqu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 12, 9:40�pm, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> > Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> > associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> > but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> > that the German convention?]
>
> Get it right. Herr Dr. Prof.
My bad. No, not "Mein Bad".
Ernest Major
<jo...@wilkins.id.au> writes
I though that the custom was that Ph.Ds didn't go by Dr. on airlines,
because of the risk of being asked to assist in the event of a medical
emergency.
>
>And because it seems I have to spell out the joke, in German it would
>be Herr Doktor Professor Wilkins.
>
--
alias Ernest Major
Garamond Lethe
May your startup package be generous, your postdocs brilliant, and your
students occasionally deferential.
John Wilkins
<{$to$}@meden.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Never heard that one before. I don't respond to requests for a doctor,
because I'm not a medico, but I use the title, which I am quite
literally entitled to use. Otherwise, as a middle aged male, I am
invisible to the attendants.
John Wilkins
<cartogr...@gFNORDmail.com> wrote:
Startup what now?
Mike Dworetsky
I'll go along with Ernest on this one, John. Not so much a custom, as a
practical matter. Your title is on the passenger manifest that the crew
have available, so they might quietly approach you to ask to help with
another passenger having a heart attack or fit. It's potentially a
time-waster for them when vital seconds might count. "I'm not that kind of
doctor." And a bit embarrassing for you.
OTOH, by all means use it in restaurants when making reservations, if you
think it might get you a better table.
--
Mike Dworetsky
(Remove pants sp*mbl*ck to reply)
martin
> In message <131120091749277558%jo...@wilkins.id.au>, John Wilkins
>> I become a *professor*. I already was a doctor (PhD, not MD, which is
>> not, in my country or yours, a doctoral degree, nor JD, which is a law
>> degree. I can use "PhD" after my name if I like (I don't, except in
>> academic contexts), and I do go by Dr Wilkins, especially on airlines.
>
> I though that the custom was that Ph.Ds didn't go by Dr. on airlines,
> because of the risk of being asked to assist in the event of a medical
> emergency.
It's more likely to get him a lift to business class than traveling as Mr.
Congratulations John.
VoiceOfReason
Congrats & stuff.
Burkhard
> On Nov 12, 9:40 pm, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>
> > Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> > associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> > but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> > that the German convention?]
>
> Get it right. Herr Dr. Prof.
Sorry, it's Herr Prof Dr.
Then Herr Prof Dr Dr.
then Prof Dr Dr (mult)
Then Prof Dr h.c. Dr (mult)
Then Prof Dr h.c. (mult) Dr. mult)
;o)
All-seeing-I
I'll save the congratulations for when you become "Dean Wilkins"
In the meantime.. Good Luck with the new gig, "Prof JW"
Stuart
Congratulations.
Now the fun is over. Time to get serious Wilkins.
Stuart
John Wilkins
<82ff144c-4f66-4e27...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
Stuart <bigd...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, I'm starting to realise that.
chris thompson
> In article
> <82ff144c-4f66-4e27-9b32-96ddc5339...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Stuart <bigdak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 12, 7:40 pm, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> > > Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> > > associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> > > but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> > > that the German convention?]
>
> > Congratulations.
>
> > Now the fun is over. Time to get serious Wilkins.
>
> Yeah, I'm starting to realise that.
Is this one of those positions that requires a constant stream of
thingies in order to avoid untimely cessation of essential [academic]
life functions?
In any event, congogratulations Dr. Gorilla.
Chris
J.J. O'Shea
(in article <131120091749277558%jo...@wilkins.id.au>):
> In article
> <7aa95dd1-eccb-4492...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> spintronic <spint...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 13 Nov, 05:40, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>>> Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
>>> associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
>>> but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
>>> that the German convention?]
>>
>> Really?
>>
>> Why not Dr Wilkins, J.D.Wilkins, John Wilkins M.D, or John Wilkins
>> Ph.D?
>>
>> And why become a Dr when you get a job, it's surely when you obtain
>> your professional degree?
>>
>> Come back when you have your terminal degree.
>>
> My goodness, you really are uninformed.
He's _spinny_. His pic shows up when you look up 'ignorant dolt'.
>
> I become a *professor*. I already was a doctor (PhD, not MD, which is
> not, in my country or yours, a doctoral degree,
He's _spinny_. I suspect that he simply doesn't know what a MBBS is.
> nor JD, which is a law
> degree. I can use "PhD" after my name if I like (I don't, except in
> academic contexts), and I do go by Dr Wilkins, especially on airlines.
>
> And because it seems I have to spell out the joke, in German it would
> be Herr Doktor Professor Wilkins.
>
With or without the fiendish cackle and the blast of thunder and the short
excerpt from Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D Minor?
--
email to oshea dot j dot j at gmail dot com.
John Wilkins
<4555bafd-c5ea-483d...@t2g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
chris thompson <chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
Teaching 2/3rds and research 1/3rd. I may have to cease my blogging and
t.o-ing...
Eric Root
>
> Kent <musquods...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 12, 9:40 pm, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> > > Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> > > associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> > > but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> > > that the German convention?]
>
> > Get it right. Herr Dr. Prof.
>
> My bad. No, not "Mein Bad".
>
>
>
> > Congrats. It is a strange fact of life that while looking for a job
> > almost none exist but after you have one there are many.
"Your bath?"
Eric Root
AusShane
> In message <131120091749277558%j...@wilkins.id.au>, John Wilkins
> <j...@wilkins.id.au> writes
>
>
>
> >In article
> ><7aa95dd1-eccb-4492-a0a5-d59b547a3...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> >spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> On 13 Nov, 05:40, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> >> > Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> >> > associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> >> > but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> >> > that the German convention?]
>
> >> Really?
>
> >> Why not Dr Wilkins, J.D.Wilkins, John Wilkins M.D, or John Wilkins
> >> Ph.D?
>
> >> And why become a Dr when you get a job, it's surely when you obtain
> >> your professional degree?
>
> >> Come back when you have your terminal degree.
>
> >My goodness, you really are uninformed.
>
> >I become a *professor*. I already was a doctor (PhD, not MD, which is
> >not, in my country or yours, a doctoral degree, nor JD, which is a law
> >degree. I can use "PhD" after my name if I like (I don't, except in
> >academic contexts), and I do go by Dr Wilkins, especially on airlines.
>
> I though that the custom was that Ph.Ds didn't go by Dr. on airlines,
> because of the risk of being asked to assist in the event of a medical
> emergency.
>
>
>
> >And because it seems I have to spell out the joke, in German it would
> >be Herr Doktor Professor Wilkins.
>
> --
> alias Ernest Major
Oh you don't have to be a doctor - i'm on my third community arrest
and counting. (Hint DONT sit next to me on a plane)
Congrats John - perhaps we will bump into each other in Oz sometime
Frank J
Congratulations again.
Once again a hectic schedule kept me away from meeting you on your US
trip. Hope your new job pays for more overseas travel.
rossum
wrote:
>In article
><d5febb83-bbc9-4b4b...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
>Kent <musqu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 12, 9:40 pm, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>> > Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
>> > associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
>> > but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
>> > that the German convention?]
>>
>> Get it right. Herr Dr. Prof.
>
>My bad. No, not "Mein Bad".
What does your bath have to do with it?
Professor of Bathology, or just Professor of Bathos? :)
rossum
John Wilkins
<ross...@coldmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:50:15 +1100, John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au>
> wrote:
>
> >In article
> ><d5febb83-bbc9-4b4b...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
> >Kent <musqu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Nov 12, 9:40�pm, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> >> > Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> >> > associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> >> > but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> >> > that the German convention?]
> >>
> >> Get it right. Herr Dr. Prof.
> >
> >My bad. No, not "Mein Bad".
> What does your bath have to do with it?
>
> Professor of Bathology, or just Professor of Bathos? :)
He used... sarcasm. He knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor,�
bathos, puns, parody, litotes and... satire. He was vicious."
Ron O
> In message <131120091749277558%j...@wilkins.id.au>, John Wilkins
> <j...@wilkins.id.au> writes
>
>
>
>
>
> >In article
> ><7aa95dd1-eccb-4492-a0a5-d59b547a3...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>
> >> On 13 Nov, 05:40, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> >> > Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> >> > associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> >> > but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> >> > that the German convention?]
>
> >> Really?
>
> >> Why not Dr Wilkins, J.D.Wilkins, John Wilkins M.D, or John Wilkins
> >> Ph.D?
>
> >> And why become a Dr when you get a job, it's surely when you obtain
> >> your professional degree?
>
> >> Come back when you have your terminal degree.
>
> >My goodness, you really are uninformed.
>
> >I become a *professor*. I already was a doctor (PhD, not MD, which is
> >not, in my country or yours, a doctoral degree, nor JD, which is a law
> >degree. I can use "PhD" after my name if I like (I don't, except in
> >academic contexts), and I do go by Dr Wilkins, especially on airlines.
>
> I though that the custom was that Ph.Ds didn't go by Dr. on airlines,
> because of the risk of being asked to assist in the event of a medical
> emergency.
>
>
>
> >And because it seems I have to spell out the joke, in German it would
> >be Herr Doktor Professor Wilkins.
>
> --
About the only one that regularly calls me doctor would be my
mother.;-)
Ron Okimoto
J. J. Lodder
Since we seem to be informing:
Herr Professor Doktor
is the more commonly used form.
(and the formally correct one)
And the double title is often dropped,
leaving just Herr Professor,
Jan
John Wilkins
<nos...@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:
Well *now*, maybe. But I'm a traditionalist.
>
> Jan
>
Nosterill
> In article
> <7aa95dd1-eccb-4492-a0a5-d59b547a3...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
> > On 13 Nov, 05:40, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> > > Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> > > associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> > > but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> > > that the German convention?]
>
> > Really?
>
> > Why not Dr Wilkins, J.D.Wilkins, John Wilkins M.D, or John Wilkins
> > Ph.D?
>
> > And why become a Dr when you get a job, it's surely when you obtain
> > your professional degree?
>
> > Come back when you have your terminal degree.
>
> My goodness, you really are uninformed.
>
> I become a *professor*. I already was a doctor (PhD, not MD, which is
> not, in my country or yours, a doctoral degree, nor JD, which is a law
> degree. I can use "PhD" after my name if I like (I don't, except in
> academic contexts), and I do go by Dr Wilkins, especially on airlines.
One has to be a little careful how one refers to the distinction - as
in the case of an erstwhile acquaintance with a PhD but poor
judgement. He broke a leg and was taken into A&E where the MD on duty
looked at his clipboard and said "Oh, I see you are a doctor as
well!". The fracturee is reputed to have replied "No. I'm a real
doctor". I doubt if there is a reliable record of the level of
anaesthesia used when they set his fracture :-)
Rodjk #613
> Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> that the German convention?]
Wait...I thought you went into Philosophy to make sure you would never
get a job??
;)
Congratulations...
Rodjk #613
John Wilkins
<e28d403c-44f0-47f7...@e7g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
Rodjk #613 <rjk...@gmail.com> wrote:
No, I went into academe so I wouldn't commit a mass murder at my
then-current job.
> ;)
>
> Congratulations...
Thanks. I'm nearly up to my salary level when I left graphic arts.
John Wilkins
<c5c48e7b-c074-47a9...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Nosterill <flad...@hotmail.com> wrote:
When I got to the PhD I used to say to my doctor that I was more
qualified and I was a real doctor. He used to reply that might be so,
but *he* could prescribe drugs. I admitted defeat.
J. J. Lodder
More informing:
Herr Professor Doktor is the traditional form,
and the only correct form in German.
You'll find Herr Doktor Professor mostly in English language texts,
by speakers of English who tink that they can speake ze German too.
It's just a mistake, let's hope it doesn't become a tradition,
Jan
Mike Dworetsky
Oh no!! In that case, surely it's hardly worth taking the job...
Mike Lyle
> Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or
> is that the German convention?]
You rang?
What a relief! Well-deserved congrats, John. I'll tell the gang when you
release details.
--
Mike.
Augray
wrote in <131120091640419920%jo...@wilkins.id.au> :
>Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia.
North America's loss.
> I am now an
>associate professor.
So you've attained that which starts with "T"?
>I can't say where until the contract is signed,
>but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
>that the German convention?]
Congratulations!
Burkhard
> John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> > <nos...@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:
>
> > > John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>
> > > > In article
> > > > <7aa95dd1-eccb-4492-a0a5-d59b547a3...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Unless of course his family name is "Professor"
John Wilkins
<807d5933-80b5-465f...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
Burkhard <b.sc...@ed.ac.uk> wrote:
And the eldest, which means I'd be Herr Professor Doktor Professor
Major.
Ye Old One
>Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
>associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
>but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
>that the German convention?]
Congratulations.
--
Bob.
Did you know that 1 in 4 people make up a quarter of the world's
population?
Desertphile
<jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> that the German convention?]
Why go to Australia when Caitlin Hill moved to New York? There is
nothing left in Australia worth seeing, or living for.
--
http://desertphile.org
Desertphile's Desert Soliloquy. WARNING: view with plenty of water
"Why aren't resurrections from the dead noteworthy?" -- Jim Rutz
Kermit
> Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> that the German convention?]
Yay!
<Golf clap, but with sincerity>
Kermit
Mitchell Coffey
> Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> that the German convention?]
Congratulations! I suppose tenure tack at a third world university is
better than none at all.
Mitchell
Mitchell Coffey
> In article
> <mlsiemon-E01E65.21525912112...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
>
> Michael Siemon <mlsie...@sonic.net> wrote:
> > In article <131120091640419920%j...@wilkins.id.au>,
> > John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>
> > > Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> > > associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> > > but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> > > that the German convention?]
>
>
> Organisation, careful paperwork, planning and a ruthless efficiency are
> our weapons, among other.
>
> I'm sorry. I'll come in again.
... and almost fanatical devotion to the Fü... No, that would be in
poor taste.
Mitchell
Mitchell Coffey
> In message <131120091749277558%j...@wilkins.id.au>, John Wilkins
> <j...@wilkins.id.au> writes
>
>
>
> ><7aa95dd1-eccb-4492-a0a5-d59b547a3...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> >spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> >> > associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> >> > but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> >> > that the German convention?]
>
>
> >> Why not Dr Wilkins, J.D.Wilkins, John Wilkins M.D, or John Wilkins
> >> Ph.D?
>
> >> And why become a Dr when you get a job, it's surely when you obtain
> >> your professional degree?
>
> >> Come back when you have your terminal degree.
>
> >My goodness, you really are uninformed.
>
> >I become a *professor*. I already was a doctor (PhD, not MD, which is
> >not, in my country or yours, a doctoral degree, nor JD, which is a law
> >degree. I can use "PhD" after my name if I like (I don't, except in
> >academic contexts), and I do go by Dr Wilkins, especially on airlines.
>
> because of the risk of being asked to assist in the event of a medical
> emergency.
Um-hmm, [mumble] stewardesses [mumble] ...
Mitchell Coffey
Mitchell Coffey
> On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:49:27 -0500, John Wilkins wrote
> (in article <131120091749277558%j...@wilkins.id.au>):
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <7aa95dd1-eccb-4492-a0a5-d59b547a3...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> > spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> On 13 Nov, 05:40, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> >>> Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> >>> associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> >>> but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> >>> that the German convention?]
>
> >> Really?
>
> >> Why not Dr Wilkins, J.D.Wilkins, John Wilkins M.D, or John Wilkins
> >> Ph.D?
>
> >> And why become a Dr when you get a job, it's surely when you obtain
> >> your professional degree?
>
> >> Come back when you have your terminal degree.
>
> > My goodness, you really are uninformed.
>
>
>
>
> > I become a *professor*. I already was a doctor (PhD, not MD, which is
> > not, in my country or yours, a doctoral degree,
>
>
> > nor JD, which is a law
> > degree. I can use "PhD" after my name if I like (I don't, except in
> > academic contexts), and I do go by Dr Wilkins, especially on airlines.
>
> > be Herr Doktor Professor Wilkins.
>
> excerpt from Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D Minor?
And a lab assistant with a hunchback.
Mitchell Coffey
Mitchell Coffey
> In article <1j94gdi.dnqou01djtq...@de-ster.xs4all.nl>, J. J. Lodder
>
>
>
> <nos...@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:
> > John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>
> > > In article
> > > <7aa95dd1-eccb-4492-a0a5-d59b547a3...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Also, I know that due your native modesty you seldom refer to your
baronage, but "Herr Professor Doktor J.D. Graf von Wilkins-
Kirschwasser shows a certain panache, don't you know?
Mitchell
Mitchell Coffey
All of us are able to prescribe drugs, John.
Mitchell
Mitchell Coffey
>
>
>
> chris thompson <chris.linthomp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Stuart <bigdak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> > > > > associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> > > > > but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> > > > > that the German convention?]
>
>
> > > > Now the fun is over. Time to get serious Wilkins.
>
> > > Yeah, I'm starting to realise that.
>
> > Is this one of those positions that requires a constant stream of
> > thingies in order to avoid untimely cessation of essential [academic]
> > life functions?
>
> Teaching 2/3rds and research 1/3rd. I may have to cease my blogging and
> t.o-ing...
Clearly not America: you have the teaching and research proportions
reversed. Also, when are you supposed to hunt for grants?
Mitchell
Paul J Gans
>Michael Siemon <mlsi...@sonic.net> wrote:
>> In article <131120091640419920%jo...@wilkins.id.au>,
>> John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>>
>> > Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
>> > associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
>> > but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
>> > that the German convention?]
>>
>> It's all right, John; no one expects the German Convention...
>>
>Organisation, careful paperwork, planning and a ruthless efficiency are
>our weapons, among other.
>I'm sorry. I'll come in again.
Good grief! Next time you are in the US we will have to treat
you decently!
--
--- Paul J. Gans
Paul J Gans
>Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
>associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
>but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
>that the German convention?]
Herr Professor Doktor Wilkins in Deutsches sprache.
Congratulations!
Paul J Gans
>In message <131120091749277558%jo...@wilkins.id.au>, John Wilkins
><jo...@wilkins.id.au> writes
>>In article
>><7aa95dd1-eccb-4492...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>>spintronic <spint...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 13 Nov, 05:40, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>>> > Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
>>> > associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
>>> > but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
>>> > that the German convention?]
>>>
>>>
>>> Why not Dr Wilkins, J.D.Wilkins, John Wilkins M.D, or John Wilkins
>>> Ph.D?
>>>
>>> And why become a Dr when you get a job, it's surely when you obtain
>>> your professional degree?
>>>
>>> Come back when you have your terminal degree.
>>>
>>My goodness, you really are uninformed.
>>
>>I become a *professor*. I already was a doctor (PhD, not MD, which is
>>not, in my country or yours, a doctoral degree, nor JD, which is a law
>>degree. I can use "PhD" after my name if I like (I don't, except in
>>academic contexts), and I do go by Dr Wilkins, especially on airlines.
>I though that the custom was that Ph.Ds didn't go by Dr. on airlines,
>because of the risk of being asked to assist in the event of a medical
>emergency.
>>
>>And because it seems I have to spell out the joke, in German it would
>>be Herr Doktor Professor Wilkins.
>>
It is a curious thing, but as others have pointed out, MD's are not
"doctors" in the academic sense.
Most academics don't use the term "doctor". Except in schools of
education where they doctor each other to death.
But it is a legal title and handy to use in some places.
Paul J Gans
>On 2009-11-13, John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>> Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
>> associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
>> but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
>> that the German convention?]
>May your startup package be generous, your postdocs brilliant, and your
>students occasionally deferential.
You want a lot, don't you? ;-)
Paul J Gans
>In article <u48Lm.15174$Zu5....@newsfe24.iad>, Garamond Lethe
><cartogr...@gFNORDmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2009-11-13, John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>> > Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
>> > associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
>> > but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
>> > that the German convention?]
>>
>> May your startup package be generous, your postdocs brilliant, and your
>> students occasionally deferential.
>>
>Startup what now?
Aha! In the sciences you need equipment, especially if you need to
set up a lab. Hence folks negotiate "startup packages" which amounts
to permission to spend the Uni's money up to a certain limit.
Paul J Gans
>Stuart <bigd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 12, 7:40 pm, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>> > Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
>> > associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
>> > but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
>> > that the German convention?]
>>
>>
>> Congratulations.
>>
>> Now the fun is over. Time to get serious Wilkins.
>>
>Yeah, I'm starting to realise that.
Wait until your students discover talk.origins....
Though I have to admit that none of mine ever have. At least
none have admitted it. Perhaps it helps that I don't use my
university e-mail address...
Paul J Gans
We actually had a dean here whose surname was in fact "Dean".
Paul J Gans
>On Nov 13, 7:49 am, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>> In article
>> <7aa95dd1-eccb-4492-a0a5-d59b547a3...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>>
>>
>> spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > On 13 Nov, 05:40, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>> > > Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
>> > > associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
>> > > but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
>> > > that the German convention?]
>>
>> > Really?
>>
>> > Why not Dr Wilkins, J.D.Wilkins, John Wilkins M.D, or John Wilkins
>> > Ph.D?
>>
>> > And why become a Dr when you get a job, it's surely when you obtain
>> > your professional degree?
>>
>> > Come back when you have your terminal degree.
>>
>> My goodness, you really are uninformed.
>>
>> I become a *professor*. I already was a doctor (PhD, not MD, which is
>> not, in my country or yours, a doctoral degree, nor JD, which is a law
>> degree. I can use "PhD" after my name if I like (I don't, except in
>> academic contexts), and I do go by Dr Wilkins, especially on airlines.
>One has to be a little careful how one refers to the distinction - as
>in the case of an erstwhile acquaintance with a PhD but poor
>judgement. He broke a leg and was taken into A&E where the MD on duty
>looked at his clipboard and said "Oh, I see you are a doctor as
>well!". The fracturee is reputed to have replied "No. I'm a real
>doctor". I doubt if there is a reliable record of the level of
>anaesthesia used when they set his fracture :-)
That's part of the standard fear of folks in chemistry departments.
In that nightmare the MD looks down at you and says: "Didn't I
have you for organic chemistry?"...
Paul J Gans
Some times one has to tack. Other times one has to wear.
Paul J Gans
Well, that Wilkins fellow may show his panache, but only
my wife has seen mine.
XaurreauX
> Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> that the German convention?]
Congratulations!
John Harshman
> Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> that the German convention?]
>
professor. And how soon can you get tenure and stop publishing?
Mitchell Coffey
> John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> >In article
Do you recall from Catch 22 "Maj. Major Major." His middle name was
"Major," as I recall.
Mitchell
Mike Lyle
> John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>> In article
>> <807d5933-80b5-465f...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
>> Burkhard <b.sc...@ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> Unless of course his family name is "Professor"
>>>
>> And the eldest, which means I'd be Herr Professor Doktor Professor
>> Major.
>
> We actually had a dean here whose surname was in fact "Dean".
Somerville used to have a real live Lady Margaret Hall.
--
Mike.
Mitchell Coffey
>
> Rodjk #613 <rjka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 12, 11:40 pm, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> > > Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> > > associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> > > but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> > > that the German convention?]
>
> > get a job??
>
> No, I went into academe so I wouldn't commit a mass murder at my
> then-current job.
>
> > ;)
>
> > Congratulations...
>
> Thanks. I'm nearly up to my salary level when I left graphic arts.
Can you take it philosophically?
Mitchell
Scanman
> Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> that the German convention?]
Congratulations!
Inez
> Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> that the German convention?]
Yay for you! Do they put you in charge of a whole wing of the great
Darwinistic Conspiricy now?
Paul J Gans
Some us can even proscribe them.
r norman
wrote:
>Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
>associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
>but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
>that the German convention?]
My heartiest congratulations. You didn't say that it was a _paying_
job, though.
What is particularly good is that you are starting at the Associate
level which means they are giving you substantial credit for all your
previous work.
You also don't mention whether it is a tenure track job.
But job is job, unless your name is Job but, like him, you did have to
suffer endless grief even though beloved of God. He turned out well
in the end. I am not sure which end of yours will turn out well.
J. J. Lodder
They are that dumb over there?
Here it is physical chemistry that breaks them,
Jan
Free Lunch
>Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
>associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
>but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
>that the German convention?]
Congratulations, may your students enjoy the pain you put them through.
John Wilkins
<51f5c668-5cb5-4372...@d5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Mitchell Coffey <m.co...@starpower.net> wrote:
But do they come when you do prescribe them?
John Wilkins
<ga...@panix.com> wrote:
Are you suggesting I trim my sails?
Bob Casanova
in talk.origins, posted by John Wilkins
<jo...@wilkins.id.au>:
>Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
>associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
>but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
>that the German convention?]
Germans don't hold conventions, they stage invasions. ;-)
And congrats!
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
Mike Lyle
It was an un-called-for jibe.
--
Mike.
John Wilkins
<92d3de43-25b9-4e5b...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
Inez <savagem...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Since I live under a socialistic government, we are all Darwinists
here. I am only going to run some local death panels.
John Wilkins
<ga...@panix.com> wrote:
I think I can afford to buy a computer and some white out.
chris thompson
In fact, a friend of mine had a TIA a couple years ago. When he went
in for the tests, the radiation tech yelled, "Professor Schwartz! It's
you!"
And my friend responded, "Damn, I'm glad you got an A in my class!"
So it works both ways.
Chris
chris thompson
> Paul J Gans <g...@panix.com> wrote:
>
>
>
You must be a charming dinner companion.
Chris
John Wilkins
<r_s_n...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:40:41 +1100, John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au>
> wrote:
>
> >Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> >associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> >but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> >that the German convention?]
>
> My heartiest congratulations. You didn't say that it was a _paying_
> job, though.
>
> What is particularly good is that you are starting at the Associate
> level which means they are giving you substantial credit for all your
> previous work.
It is roughly, in Australian terms, at Lecturer B, which means that I
am being given some credit for my advanced age only.
>
> You also don't mention whether it is a tenure track job.
Yes it is. If I don't screw the pooch, I can be tenured in three years.
This means I can only be fired if they fill out three extra forms.
>
> But job is job, unless your name is Job but, like him, you did have to
> suffer endless grief even though beloved of God. He turned out well
> in the end. I am not sure which end of yours will turn out well.
You know there ain't no devil, there's just God when he's drunk.
John Wilkins
<mike_l...@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I was quite taken aback, I mast say.
Michael Siemon
<173b9729-313d-403e...@p28g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
chris thompson <chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
He Dutch; it's perfectly normal... :-)
All-Seeing-I
> On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:40:41 +1100, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au>
You are a very cleaver man with words. I like that.
Nic
> Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> that the German convention?]
Congratulations and good luck. Hope you still have enough time for
t.o. Do they have to ok everything you post from now on?
Nic
John Wilkins
<c6fd90be-100c-4e2a...@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
Nic <harris...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On the one hand I'm going to be as busy as a one-armed man with fleas,
up a ladder.
On the other, t.o is where I come to release the pun-energy
So I don't know if I will be posting much, but I probably will post.
Until I get those lectures written and then coast on my laurels (a
really uncomfortable way to coast, BTW)...
Nic
Your laurels are going somewhere? Try an ericaceous mulch, and if
that doesn't stop them wandering, paraquat.
VoiceOfReason
> John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> >In article
> >Burkhard <b.scha...@ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> >> > John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> >> > > <nos...@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > On 13 Nov, 05:40, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now
> >> > > > > > > an
> >> > > > > > > associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is
> >> > > > > > > signed,
> >> > > > > > > but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla.
> >> > > > > > > [Or is that the German convention?]
>
>
> >> > > > > > Why not Dr Wilkins, J.D.Wilkins, John Wilkins M.D, or John Wilkins
> >> > > > > > Ph.D?
>
> >> > > > > > And why become a Dr when you get a job, it's surely when you obtain
> >> > > > > > your professional degree?
>
> >> > > > > > Come back when you have your terminal degree.
>
> >> > > > > My goodness, you really are uninformed.
>
> >> > > > > I become a *professor*. I already was a doctor (PhD, not MD, which is
> >> > > > > not, in my country or yours, a doctoral degree, nor JD, which is a law
> >> > > > > degree. I can use "PhD" after my name if I like (I don't, except in
> >> > > > > academic contexts), and I do go by Dr Wilkins, especially on airlines.
>
> >> > > > > be Herr Doktor Professor Wilkins.
>
> >> > > > Since we seem to be informing:
> >> > > > Herr Professor Doktor
> >> > > > is the more commonly used form.
> >> > > > (and the formally correct one)
>
> >> > > > And the double title is often dropped,
> >> > > > leaving just Herr Professor,
>
> >> > > Well *now*, maybe. But I'm a traditionalist.
>
> >> > More informing:
> >> > Herr Professor Doktor is the traditional form,
> >> > and the only correct form in German.
>
> >> > You'll find Herr Doktor Professor mostly in English language texts,
> >> > by speakers of English who tink that they can speake ze German too.
>
> >> > It's just a mistake, let's hope it doesn't become a tradition,
>
>
> >And the eldest, which means I'd be Herr Professor Doktor Professor
> >Major.
>
> We actually had a dean here whose surname was in fact "Dean".
I knew a Captain in the Air Force by the last name of Marvel.
Seriously.
William Morse
> In article
> Michael Siemon <mlsi...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> In article <131120091640419920%jo...@wilkins.id.au>,
>> John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>>
>>> Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
>>> associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
>>> but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
>>> that the German convention?]
>>
> Organisation, careful paperwork, planning and a ruthless efficiency are
> our weapons, among other.
>
> I'm sorry. I'll come in again.
>
And I suppose the first question at the interview was "Do you have your
own hat?"
magicus
wrote:
Is that a reference to a Tom Waits tune?
ciao,
f
--
aa #2301
"...The word that separates that which is dead from that which is
living....In the beginning was the word and that word was...CHOICE"
-- Tom Robbins (SLWW)
Christopher Denney
> In article <hdk3v5$4d...@reader1.panix.com>, Paul J Gans> > >In article <u48Lm.15174$Zu5.12...@newsfe24.iad>, Garamond Lethe
> > ><cartographi...@gFNORDmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> On 2009-11-13, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> > >> > Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> > >> > associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> > >> > but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> > >> > that the German convention?]
>
> > >> May your startup package be generous, your postdocs brilliant, and your
> > >> students occasionally deferential.
>
> > >Startup what now?
>
> > Aha! In the sciences you need equipment, especially if you need to
> > set up a lab. Hence folks negotiate "startup packages" which amounts
> > to permission to spend the Uni's money up to a certain limit.
>
> I think I can afford to buy a computer and some white out.
Just so long as you are not this guy:
http://www.danscartoons.com/comp98_demo.gif
John Wilkins
<REMOVEmag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:23:47 +1100, John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au>
> wrote:
...
> > You know there ain't no devil, there's just God when he's drunk.
>
> Is that a reference to a Tom Waits tune?
No, it's a quotation from Tom Wait's song lyrics.
Darrell Stec
> Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> that the German convention?]
What took you so long? :-)
--
Later,
Darrell
heekster
<m.co...@starpower.net> wrote:
>On Nov 13, 12:55�am, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>> In article
>> <mlsiemon-E01E65.21525912112...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
>>
>> Michael Siemon <mlsie...@sonic.net> wrote:
>> > In article <131120091640419920%j...@wilkins.id.au>,
>> > �John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>>
>> > > Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
>> > > associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
>> > > but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
>> > > that the German convention?]
>>
>> > It's all right, John; no one expects the German Convention...
>>
>> Organisation, careful paperwork, planning and a ruthless efficiency are
>> our weapons, among other.
>>
>> I'm sorry. I'll come in again.
>
>... and almost fanatical devotion to the F�... No, that would be in
>poor taste.
>
>Mitchell
F�llfederhalter use is in poor taste?
Out, damned Mont Blanc!
heekster
<m.co...@starpower.net> wrote:
>On Nov 13, 8:09�am, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>> In article <1j94gdi.dnqou01djtq...@de-ster.xs4all.nl>, J. J. Lodder
>>
>>
>>
>> <nos...@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:
>> > John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>>
>> > > In article
>> > > <7aa95dd1-eccb-4492-a0a5-d59b547a3...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>> > > spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > On 13 Nov, 05:40, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>> > > > > Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
>> > > > > associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
>> > > > > but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
>> > > > > that the German convention?]
>>
>> > > > Really?
>>
>> > > > Why not Dr Wilkins, J.D.Wilkins, John Wilkins M.D, or John Wilkins
>> > > > Ph.D?
>>
>> > > > And why become a Dr when you get a job, it's surely when you obtain
>> > > > your professional degree?
>>
>> > > > Come back when you have your terminal degree.
>>
>> > > My goodness, you really are uninformed.
>>
>> > > I become a *professor*. I already was a doctor (PhD, not MD, which is
>> > > not, in my country or yours, a doctoral degree, nor JD, which is a law
>> > > degree. I can use "PhD" after my name if I like (I don't, except in
>> > > academic contexts), and I do go by Dr Wilkins, especially on airlines.
>>
>> > > And because it seems I have to spell out the joke, in German it would
>> > > be Herr Doktor Professor Wilkins.
>>
>> > Since we seem to be informing:
>> > Herr Professor Doktor
>> > is the more commonly used form.
>> > (and the formally correct one)
>>
>> > And the double title is often dropped,
>> > leaving just Herr Professor,
>>
>> Well *now*, maybe. But I'm a traditionalist.
>
>Also, I know that due your native modesty you seldom refer to your
>baronage, but "Herr Professor Doktor J.D. Graf von Wilkins-
>Kirschwasser shows a certain panache, don't you know?
>
>Mitchell
Mebbe, so, but it sounds like what the heinies refer to as "eine
Dusche".
John Wilkins
<dar...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
I got an email from a colleague who said it took him 17 years to find a
tenurable position. It has taken me 6 since the doctorate. I can live
with that.
heekster
wrote:
>In article
><c5c48e7b-c074-47a9...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
>Nosterill <flad...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 13, 7:49�am, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>> > In article
>> > <7aa95dd1-eccb-4492-a0a5-d59b547a3...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > > On 13 Nov, 05:40, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>> > > > Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
>> > > > associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
>> > > > but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
>> > > > that the German convention?]
>> >
>> > > Really?
>> >
>> > > Why not Dr Wilkins, J.D.Wilkins, John Wilkins M.D, or John Wilkins
>> > > Ph.D?
>> >
>> > > And why become a Dr when you get a job, it's surely when you obtain
>> > > your professional degree?
>> >
>> > > Come back when you have your terminal degree.
>> >
>> > My goodness, you really are uninformed.
>> >
>> > I become a *professor*. I already was a doctor (PhD, not MD, which is
>> > not, in my country or yours, a doctoral degree, nor JD, which is a law
>> > degree. I can use "PhD" after my name if I like (I don't, except in
>> > academic contexts), and I do go by Dr Wilkins, especially on airlines.
>>
>> One has to be a little careful how one refers to the distinction - as
>> in the case of an erstwhile acquaintance with a PhD but poor
>> judgement. He broke a leg and was taken into A&E where the MD on duty
>> looked at his clipboard and said "Oh, I see you are a doctor as
>> well!". The fracturee is reputed to have replied "No. I'm a real
>> doctor". I doubt if there is a reliable record of the level of
>> anaesthesia used when they set his fracture :-)
>>
>When I got to the PhD I used to say to my doctor that I was more
>qualified and I was a real doctor. He used to reply that might be so,
>but *he* could prescribe drugs. I admitted defeat.
Wrong answer.
You should have asked him to "prove" it.
;)
Carpe medicamentum.
John Wilkins
<heek...@ifiwxtc.net> wrote:
He just had.
>
> ;)
>
> Carpe medicamentum.
>
Hamish Reid
John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> that the German convention?]
Well congratulations. It wouldn't be at That University We Discussed
Named After That Certain Disgraced Australian, would it?! :-)
Hamish
William Morse
> Not, I have to say, in North America, but in Australia. I am now an
> associate professor. I can't say where until the contract is signed,
> but you may now all refer to me as Mr Professor, Doctor Gorilla. [Or is
> that the German convention?]
>
But now you won't be able to spend endless hours in dismissing
creationism, pun-cascades, and esoteric discussions about the history of
evolutionary theory, complexity, and theistic evolution, because you
will actually have to work for a living, like engineers. Oh wait a
minute ...
Walter Bushell
John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> You know there ain't no devil, there's just God when he's drunk.
s/drunk/sober/
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