Bagging t.o-ers
John Wilkins
popular pub with Sapient Fridge, bringing the total number of t.o-ers I
have met and mooched beer off to a considerable number (possibly more
that Nedin, and almost as many as PZ).
macaddicted
See, I knew anything titled "Wilkins Sober" couldn't be right.
--
macaddicted
Wisdom is radiant and unfading and she is easily discerned
by those who love her and is found by those who seek her.
Wisdom 6:12 (NRSV)
J. J. Lodder
Thanks. I had been intending
to look for a translation of Dutch 'bietsen',
and now you have supplied it for free.
The word has a curious etymology, through harbour slang.
The original is English 'beachcomber'.
This came to be applied to sailors
stranded in harbour looking for their next ship,
and doing various small jobs,
or just beg for food in the meantime.
The intermediate stage 'bietskommer' is documented. (and forgotten)
Nowadays 'bietsen' just means talking somebody
into giving you something for free.
(with the origin of the word generally forgotten)
You can add: 'kan ik een biertje van je bietsen'
to your Dutch phrase book, in case you ever go there.
Such knowledge of Dutch slang cannot remain unrewarded,
Jan
Jim
That etymology can't be right - it has nothing to do with a Lost
Tribe, or Atlantis, or anything like that.. :)
Nashton
Why do atheists like to boast about their drinking? Is there some kind
of pride to be derived?
You can tell an atheist from a Christian. Christians get together and
talk about their families, friends and God.
Atheists talk about how many friends they had a drink with, and how
drunk they got.
Just wondering
Kleuskes & Moos
> John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> > So, last night I had several beers and a shouted conversation in a
> > popular pub with Sapient Fridge, bringing the total number of t.o-ers I
> > have met and mooched beer off to a considerable number (possibly more
> > that Nedin, and almost as many as PZ).
>
> Thanks. I had been intending
> to look for a translation of Dutch 'bietsen',
> and now you have supplied it for free.
>
> The word has a curious etymology, through harbour slang.
> The original is English 'beachcomber'.
> This came to be applied to sailors
> stranded in harbour looking for their next ship,
> and doing various small jobs,
> or just beg for food in the meantime.
> The intermediate stage 'bietskommer' is documented. (and forgotten)
In flanders, and inpartical Anwerp, the phrase "Bietsjkoemer" is still
in use (or was until recently). It's document in Dr. Vlimmen and
various Suske & Wiske
Harry K
We drink trying to forget how many morons like you are amongst us.
Harry K
Frank J
You might have a point for once. Atheists (your definition) tend to
brag about drinking (usually overestimating how much they actually
consumed), while Christians (your definition) just drink. It's also
hard to tell how much Christians (your definition) had to drink
because they're often just as incoherent while sober.
Frank J
It's the 4th anniversary of "Kitzmas." Let's drink to celebtate.
Burkhard
Could be a simple sampling error on your side. In that case the
people you hang out with simply wouldn't trust you enough to impart
details about their personal life to you that indicate any form of
weakness, let alone impair themselves even ever so slightly while you
are around. You should carry out some conrol testing to confirm your
hypothesis (aka get out more).
bpuharic
ever read paul's letter to timothy? there he recommends timothy take
some wine to settle his stomach
and christ changed water to wine at the cana wedding
oh, well...creationists just don't know their bible
Nashton
parents probably drank themselves to a stupor and you witnessed it and
thought it was the right thing to do.
HTH
ed wolf
> >You can tell an atheist from a Christian. Christians get together and
> >talk about their families, friends and God.
> >Atheists talk about how many friends they had a drink with, and how
> >drunk they got.
>
> ever read paul's letter to timothy? there he recommends timothy take
> some wine to settle �his stomach
> oh, well...creationists just don't know their bible
Well maybe they think of their beloved Noah:
Genesis 9:21-25 (King James Version)
21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken;
and he was uncovered within his tent.
22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the
nakedness of his father, and told his two
brethren without.
23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment,
and laid it upon both their shoulders, and
went backward, and covered the
nakedness of their father; and their
faces were backward, and they saw
not their father's nakedness.
24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and
knew what his younger son had done
unto him.
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a
servant of servants shall he be unto
is brethren.
Mitchell Coffey
But other than Christ Thompson and I, how many have let you play with
their dog?
Mitchell
Ye Old One
group when s/he wrote:
>John Wilkins wrote:
>> So, last night I had several beers and a shouted conversation in a
>> popular pub with Sapient Fridge, bringing the total number of t.o-ers I
>> have met and mooched beer off to a considerable number (possibly more
>> that Nedin, and almost as many as PZ).
>>
>
>
>Why do atheists like to boast about their drinking? Is there some kind
>of pride to be derived?
>You can tell an atheist from a Christian. Christians get together and
>talk about their families, friends and God.
Tell that to the Irish. And yes, I do have Irish friends.
>Atheists talk about how many friends they had a drink with, and how
>drunk they got.
Nope. Wrong again NashtOff.
>
>Just wondering
Wondering requires a brain. You have shown you don't have one.
--
Bob.
NashtOff - the moron who claimed "All drugs are derived from the ToE."
heekster
A rather grandiose oversimplification, rife with erroneous
assumptions, and not unexpected from a sociopath. If you had the
intellectual capacity to think of people as people, instead of
Christians and atheists, you might learn some things.
chris thompson
Oooohhhh. I'm on a pretty exclusive list there!
Chris
chris thompson
Sounds like Sapient Fridge is as smart and cool in real life as he is
on t.o.
Chris
Nashton
Suck up much?
Ye Old One
enriched this group when s/he wrote:
You really are a wanker.
>
>
>HTH
Ye Old One
enriched this group when s/he wrote:
Bugger, has it really been that long. Doesn't time go fast when you
are enjoying yourself?
--
Bob.
A religious war is like children fighting over who has the strongest
imaginary friend.
Greg G.
> John Wilkins wrote:
> > So, last night I had several beers and a shouted conversation in a
> > popular pub with Sapient Fridge, bringing the total number of t.o-ers I
> > have met and mooched beer off to a considerable number (possibly more
> > that Nedin, and almost as many as PZ).
>
> Why do atheists like to boast about their drinking? Is there some kind
> of pride to be derived?
> You can tell an atheist from a Christian. Christians get together and
> talk about their families, friends and God.
Atheists also talk about their families and friends. Talking about God
would only diminish the time to discuss real things.
> Atheists talk about how many friends they had a drink with, and how
> drunk they got.
>
> Just wondering
Atheists are honest about things like that. Well, sometimes they
exaggerate about how much they actually had.
chris thompson
Go away you humorless stalker.
Nashton
You do realize that you appear (as do many others) to suck up to Wilkins.
Not stalking you, just saying;)
Nashton
Does your poor (imaginary) wife of 38 years know that you spend your
time stalking posters on forums and having wet dreams about them?
Greg G.
They are friends in real life. But you wouldn't know anything about
that.
Augray
<hglpl9$ahr$3...@aioe.org> :
So, you're sucking up to Chris?
Augray
<hgl9gh$ja4$3...@aioe.org> :
>John Wilkins wrote:
>> So, last night I had several beers and a shouted conversation in a
>> popular pub with Sapient Fridge, bringing the total number of t.o-ers I
>> have met and mooched beer off to a considerable number (possibly more
>> that Nedin, and almost as many as PZ).
>>
>
>
>Why do atheists like to boast about their drinking? Is there some kind
>of pride to be derived?
In fact, Wilkins was bragging about meeting t.o.-ers, not about
drinking.
>You can tell an atheist from a Christian. Christians get together and
>talk about their families, friends and God.
And just about every other topic on the planet. And shockingly, some
drink while doing it.
>Atheists talk about how many friends they had a drink with, and how
>drunk they got.
You obviously don't know many atheists. Or at least atheists that will
confide in you.
>Just wondering
Did Wilkins brag about how drunk he got? Not that I can see.
John Wilkins
<5d417916-f0fc-4553...@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, Jim
<jimwi...@gmail.com> wrote:
Gene Scott said so.
gregwrld
Maybe it was your parents who made you
so stupid you're incapable of coming up with
a coherent argument.
Or maybe you just think we haven't seen
enough of your snot.
gregwrld
John Wilkins
<70b342a4-daed-4a12...@p32g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
Frank J <fc...@verizon.net> wrote:
It's actually Xmas, celebrating the birth of the prophet X.
John Wilkins
<heek...@ifiwxtc.net> wrote:
Atheists, when they get together, talk about families, friends, and the
total lack of cosmic purpose in the universe. The beer merely helps
cushion the overwhelming sense of loss we don't feel.
People drink beer when they get together, Nashie, even religious
people. I had four beers and a Coke over three hours. This is not, I
think, terribly dissolute.
John Wilkins
<52e01fc1-e5f9-49ac...@h9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
Greg G. <ggw...@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris put on a very nice lunch for me and a number of others from t.o
in real life. I appreciated it a lot, and we had a fun time. I think
that Nashton only knows stalking as the sole human relationship and so
he presumes everyone stalks other people the same way he does.
Ye Old One
group when s/he wrote:
Hohohohohohoho!!! You silly little trollslob. Unlike a sad little
moron like you, I have no reason for imaginary things, I live in the
real world. I was married on the 19th June 1971 at Exeter Registry
Office.
As for my posting to TO, if people like you keep telling lies then I
will keep pointing them out.
Stuart
Stuart
> John Wilkins wrote:
> > So, last night I had several beers and a shouted conversation in a
> > popular pub with Sapient Fridge, bringing the total number of t.o-ers I
> > have met and mooched beer off to a considerable number (possibly more
> > that Nedin, and almost as many as PZ).
>
> Why do atheists like to boast about their drinking? Is there some kind
> of pride to be derived?
> You can tell an atheist from a Christian. Christians get together and
> talk about their families, friends and God.
> Atheists talk about how many friends they had a drink with, and how
> drunk they got.
>
> Just wondering
You left out the fact that Atheists eat babies.
You're slipping Nashie.
Stuart
Mike Lyle
[...]
>
> People drink beer when they get together, Nashie, even religious
> people. I had four beers and a Coke over three hours. This is not, I
> think, terribly dissolute.
I dunno: next thing you could be fighting for space in the gutter. My
late father, admittedly something of a raconteur, told how as a boy in
Qld he was sent to a temperance lecture. The wowser in charge poured
methylated spirits into a saucer, and applied a match, declaiming, "And
THAT is what happens in your stomach when you take alcoholic drink!"
(I have a sense that the w-i-c also produced an earthworm and placed it
in the saucer of metho, but that may have been a separate demonstration
of the catastrophic effects of the sauce. I can't help feeling that
RSPCA Australia might demur at such a demo these days: the British
branch has, I understand, successfully brought a prosecution for cruelty
to spiders.)
--
Mike.
heekster
Has it ever dawned upon the dim recesses of your stunted intellect,
that they might actually be friends?
Do you have any friends?
Do you consider banter with friends to be "sucking up"?
Nashton
No wonder. You guys *really* have no other relationships outside the
posters in this group.
I appreciated it a lot, and we had a fun time.
That's nice.
I think
> that Nashton only knows stalking as the sole human relationship and so
> he presumes everyone stalks other people the same way he does.
Yawn
Nashton
> In article <9emsi5p81tj5upvb8...@4ax.com>, heekster
> <heek...@ifiwxtc.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 09:41:17 -0400, Nashton <na...@na.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> John Wilkins wrote:
>>>> So, last night I had several beers and a shouted conversation in a
>>>> popular pub with Sapient Fridge, bringing the total number of t.o-ers I
>>>> have met and mooched beer off to a considerable number (possibly more
>>>> that Nedin, and almost as many as PZ).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why do atheists like to boast about their drinking? Is there some kind
>>> of pride to be derived?
>>> You can tell an atheist from a Christian. Christians get together and
>>> talk about their families, friends and God.
>>> Atheists talk about how many friends they had a drink with, and how
>>> drunk they got.
>>>
>>> Just wondering
>> A rather grandiose oversimplification, rife with erroneous
>> assumptions, and not unexpected from a sociopath. If you had the
>> intellectual capacity to think of people as people, instead of
>> Christians and atheists, you might learn some things.
>>
> Atheists, when they get together, talk about families, friends, and the
> total lack of cosmic purpose in the universe. The beer merely helps
> cushion the overwhelming sense of loss we don't feel.
Nope, they talk about partying, their cars, their houses and their
material possessions. YMMV, but I have met more people in a year than
you have in a lifetime.
>
> People drink beer when they get together, Nashie, even religious
> people. I had four beers and a Coke over three hours. This is not, I
> think, terribly dissolute.
People get sloshed, Wilky, and beat their wives, kill children and get
really loud and obnoxious and teenage girls get pregnant.
Alcohol is the scourge of humanity. But an atheist will never understand
this. What a sad life to rely on naturalism and what one can observe to
explain the impalpable, the unseen and the unheard.
Sad.
>
Burkhard
That's why it is handed out at mass?
Augray
<hgmbfp$445$1...@aioe.org> :
Do you ask every person that you meet if he or she is an atheist?
>> People drink beer when they get together, Nashie, even religious
>> people. I had four beers and a Coke over three hours. This is not, I
>> think, terribly dissolute.
>
>People get sloshed, Wilky, and beat their wives, kill children and get
>really loud and obnoxious and teenage girls get pregnant.
>
>Alcohol is the scourge of humanity.
Is that why it was served at the Last Supper?
>But an atheist will never understand
>this. What a sad life to rely on naturalism and what one can observe to
>explain the impalpable, the unseen and the unheard.
People only do that if it actually provides an explanation.
>Sad.
What's sad is that you're pontificating on something you obviously
know nothing about.
bpuharic
>
>Alcohol is the scourge of humanity. But an atheist will never understand
>this. What a sad life to rely on naturalism and what one can observe to
>explain the impalpable, the unseen and the unheard.
one wonders, then, why christ turned water into wine. was he an
atheist??
>
>
>Sad.
>>
heekster
Is this about the night you became a woman, in the back of that Buick?
>Alcohol is the scourge of humanity.
Beer is proof that God loves us, and wants us to be happy.
B. Franklin
> But an atheist will never understand
>this.
'Tis far, far more probable, that it is you, not any atheist or
Christian, or Hindu, who does not understand.
>What a sad life to rely on naturalism and what one can observe to
>explain the impalpable, the unseen and the unheard.
>
You are palpably ignorant, and stupid.
>
>Sad.
>>
Cry me a river.
Ye Old One
enriched this group when s/he wrote:
Well he certainly wasn't a christian.
--
Bob.
Stuart
He could answer that, but he has to make a few friends first.
Stuart
Stuart
> > <heeks...@ifiwxtc.net> wrote:
Many, if not most, of them Xtians.
> really loud and obnoxious
That describes you to a tee. Moreover, you don't even require alcohol
to achieve that state. Its your natural disposition.
>and teenage girls get pregnant.
>
That must be why the Bible Belt has the highest rates of divorce and
teenage
pregnancy.
Prime examples include the Palin family. Sarah got knocked up and
so did her daughter...
Seems the apples didn't fall far from the tree.
Stuart
Stuart
> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:21:09 -0400, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
>
> >Alcohol is the scourge of humanity. But an atheist will never understand
> >this. What a sad life to rely on naturalism and what one can observe to
> >explain the impalpable, the unseen and the unheard.
>
> one wonders, then, why christ turned water into wine. was he an
> atheist??
>
>
He wanted to get high.
Stuart
Kermit
> John Wilkins wrote:
> > So, last night I had several beers and a shouted conversation in a
> > popular pub with Sapient Fridge, bringing the total number of t.o-ers I
> > have met and mooched beer off to a considerable number (possibly more
> > that Nedin, and almost as many as PZ).
>
> Why do atheists like to boast about their drinking? Is there some kind
> of pride to be derived?
Actually, it wounded more like he was talking about how many online
friends he has met face to face.
> You can tell an atheist from a Christian. Christians get together and
> talk about their families, friends and God.
The fundamentalists talk about how righteous they are, and how much
they hate people different from them. Some of them drink quite
heavily, but seem to have no self-control, and, even if they do, feel
terribly, terribly guilty.
The Christians who aren't Creationist anti-science activists seem to
be more decent and relaxed.I can't imagine them hanging out with you.
> Atheists talk about how many friends they had a drink with, and how
> drunk they got.
I can't remember when I got drunk last; it was twenty years or so
ago.
>
> Just wondering
Do you think drinking at a wedding is evil?
Kermit
Mike Painter
> John Wilkins wrote:
>> So, last night I had several beers and a shouted conversation in a
>> popular pub with Sapient Fridge, bringing the total number of
>> t.o-ers I have met and mooched beer off to a considerable number
>> (possibly more that Nedin, and almost as many as PZ).
>>
>
>
> Why do atheists like to boast about their drinking? Is there some kind
> of pride to be derived?
> talk about their families, friends and God.
> drunk they got.
Do I hear bagpipes?
The non christians who call themselves christian and who would say you are
not one I've been around rarely talked about such things.
In several cases what they may have said and what they did were mutually
exclusive.
chris thompson
Nashton's problem is that both of his "friends" are demanding more
money to accompany him to gatherings. I cannot say I blame them.
Chris
Harry K
> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:33:32 +0000 (UTC), Nashton <n...@na.com>
> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >> > > So, last night I had several beers and a shouted conversation in a
> >> > > popular pub with Sapient Fridge, bringing the total number of
> >> > > t.o-ers I
> >> > > have met and mooched beer off to a considerable number (possibly
> >> > > more
> >> > > that Nedin, and almost as many as PZ).
>
> >> > kind
> >> > of pride to be derived?
> >> > You can tell an atheist from a Christian. Christians get together
> >> > and
> >> > talk about their families, friends and God.
> >> > Atheists talk about how many friends they had a drink with, and how
> >> > drunk they got.
>
>
> >> We drink trying to forget how many morons like you are amongst us.
>
> >> Harry K
> >I think you drink to compensate for your shortcomings and because your
> >parents probably drank themselves to a stupor and you witnessed it and
> >thought it was the right thing to do.
>
>
>
>
> >HTH
>
> Bob.
>
> NashtOff - the moron who claimed "All drugs are derived from the ToE."- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I hope he is better at that than he is at trolling.
Harry K
Wombat
> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:21:09 -0400, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote in
> <hgmbfp$44...@aioe.org> :
>
>
>
>
>
> >John Wilkins wrote:
> >> In article <9emsi5p81tj5upvb8dg0qurms468ve5...@4ax.com>, heekster
> >> <heeks...@ifiwxtc.net> wrote:
It was also supplied in large amounts at the wedding feast at Cana.
Wombat
Ye Old One
I believe he gets a lot of practice.
--
Bob.
J. J. Lodder
> On 20 dec, 13:10, nos...@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) wrote:
> > John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> > > So, last night I had several beers and a shouted conversation in a
> > > popular pub with Sapient Fridge, bringing the total number of t.o-ers I
> > > have met and mooched beer off to a considerable number (possibly more
> > > that Nedin, and almost as many as PZ).
> >
> > Thanks. I had been intending
> > to look for a translation of Dutch 'bietsen',
> > and now you have supplied it for free.
> >
> > The word has a curious etymology, through harbour slang.
> > The original is English 'beachcomber'.
> > This came to be applied to sailors
> > stranded in harbour looking for their next ship,
> > and doing various small jobs,
> > or just beg for food in the meantime.
> > The intermediate stage 'bietskommer' is documented. (and forgotten)
>
> In flanders, and inpartical Anwerp, the phrase "Bietsjkoemer" is still
> in use (or was until recently). It's document in Dr. Vlimmen and
> various Suske & Wiske
Yes Antwerp slang is a subject of its own.
(I guess a real native needs to be subtitled
even for the Belgians)
The standard dictionary doesn't list it,
Jan
Tom McDonald
The wedding at Canna and the Last Supper have been mentioned as
counter-examples. Here, from Matthew 11:
"For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath
a devil. The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say,
Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans
and sinners."
And this from Psalm 105:
"Thou makest grass grow for the cattle and green things for those
who toil for man, bringing bread out of the earth and *wine to
gladden men's hearts*. . . ." (Emphasis added.)
I agree with you about the ills of alcohol in excess. Seemed to
cause Noah trouble. (And as for poor Ham, who but observed the
effects. . . .)
But for you to yammer about the ills of alcohol in moderation is
not only strait-laced in excess, but also anti-Biblical.
Are you sure you're a Christian?
--
Tom "Go Pack" McDonald
chris thompson
> Nashton wrote:
> > John Wilkins wrote:
> >> <heeks...@ifiwxtc.net> wrote:
It's not possible to determine whether Nashton is, in fact, a
Christian in anything but name. We can infer from his behavior here
that that is likely the extent of his religious leanings.
However, it IS possible to see that he is a pathetic stalker wannabe,
who's very existence has been reduced to impotent snarls about
minutiae. And even when yipping on and on over the most trivial of
subjects, he has to willfully and dishonestly misstate his topic. This
is a fine example- it's a sad personality that has to lie and say John
was boasting about how much he drank, when nothing like that appeared
in the OP. John did mention beer, but only in the context of a
congenial social setting. It's rather like substituting "believe" for
"understand" when he replied to a post of mine recently.
Seriously, if that's what he's fallen to, he needs be pitied rather
than attacked. He must not have a very pleasant life.
Chris
Eric Root
> John Wilkins wrote:
> > So, last night I had several beers and a shouted conversation in a
> > popular pub with Sapient Fridge, bringing the total number of t.o-ers I
> > have met and mooched beer off to a considerable number (possibly more
> > that Nedin, and almost as many as PZ).
>
> Why do atheists like to boast about their drinking? Is there some kind
> of pride to be derived?
Why do you care? It's off-topic for t.o.
> You can tell an atheist from a Christian. Christians get together and
> talk about their families, friends and God.
Yeah, but you said yourself you care nothing for the dictates of
Christianity.
> Atheists talk about how many friends they had a drink with, and how
> drunk they got.
How do you know they do that? Do you know who above is an atheist?
And even so, what business is it of yours?
>
> Just wondering
Go over to alt.atheism and ask there; it would be more on-topic. Stay
as long as you like.
Eric Root
Eric Root
When he should be working.
Eric Root
Eric Root
> > <heeks...@ifiwxtc.net> wrote:
So, what's your excuse for being loud and obnoxious?
> Alcohol is the scourge of humanity. But an atheist will never understand
> this.
You have evidence that no atheists are teetotallers? You lie. And
since only a few percent of people are atheists, while many people are
drinkers, your whole train of thought is just one big ball of wrong-
headed hatefulness.
> What a sad life to rely on naturalism and what one can observe to
> explain the impalpable, the unseen and the unheard.
>
> Sad.
>
What a sad life to rely on hatred of people that don't believe the way
you do. i sinceerly hope you are able to compartmentalize your rotten
personality and tininess of soul when you work around the ill people
unfortunate enough to fall into your clutches (if you have managed to
keep your license).
Eric Root
Eric Root
He considers it his duty to not say anything nice when he can be
hurtful.
Ye Old One
I believe it may well BE his job.
>
>Eric Root
--
Bob.
"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product
of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still
primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No
interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."
- letter from Albert Einstein to Eric Gutkind, Jan. 3, 1954.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/may/13/peopleinscience.religion
Frank J
> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:32:30 -0800 (PST), Frank J <f...@verizon.net>
> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Dec 20, 10:10�am, Harry K <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Dec 20, 5:41�am, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
>
> >> > John Wilkins wrote:
> >> > > So, last night I had several beers and a shouted conversation in a
> >> > > popular pub with Sapient Fridge, bringing the total number of t.o-ers I
> >> > > have met and mooched beer off to a considerable number (possibly more
> >> > > that Nedin, and almost as many as PZ).
>
> >> > Why do atheists like to boast about their drinking? Is there some kind
> >> > of pride to be derived?
> >> > You can tell an atheist from a Christian. Christians get together and
> >> > talk about their families, friends and God.
> >> > Atheists talk about how many friends they had a drink with, and how
> >> > drunk they got.
>
> >> > Just wondering
>
> >> We drink trying to forget how many morons like you are amongst us.
>
> >> Harry K
>
>
> Bugger, has it really been that long. Doesn't time go fast when you
> are enjoying yourself?
Yes, and very slow when we're not. My right leg was in a cast at the
time, and the 6 weeks that I was unable to drive seemed about as long
as the 4 years since.
>
> --
> Bob.
>
> A religious war is like children fighting over who has the strongest
> imaginary friend.- Hide quoted text -
Mitchell Coffey
> chris thompson wrote:
> > On Dec 20, 12:38 pm, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
> >> chris thompson wrote:
> >>>> On Dec 19, 11:03 pm, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> >>>>> So, last night I had several beers and a shouted conversation in a
> >>>>> popular pub with Sapient Fridge, bringing the total number of t.o-ers I
> >>>>> have met and mooched beer off to a considerable number (possibly more
> >>>>> that Nedin, and almost as many as PZ).
> >>>> their dog?
> >>>> Mitchell
> >>> Oooohhhh. I'm on a pretty exclusive list there!
> >>> Chris
> >> Suck up much?
>
> > Go away you humorless stalker.
>
> You do realize that you appear (as do many others) to suck up to Wilkins.
>
> Not stalking you, just saying;)
No, it's just reflects the interaction between friends. I'm certainly
not surprise that you confuse the two.
Mitchell Coffey
Mitchell Coffey
> In article
> <5d417916-f0fc-4553-a2ab-f11db35fe...@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, Jim
>
>
>
> <jimwille...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 20, 7:10�am, nos...@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) wrote:
> > > John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> > > > So, last night I had several beers and a shouted conversation in a
> > > > popular pub with Sapient Fridge, bringing the total number of t.o-ers I
> > > > have met and mooched beer off to a considerable number (possibly more
> > > > that Nedin, and almost as many as PZ).
>
> > > to look for a translation of Dutch 'bietsen',
> > > and now you have supplied it for free.
>
> > > The word has a curious etymology, through harbour slang.
> > > The original is English 'beachcomber'.
> > > This came to be applied to sailors
> > > stranded in harbour looking for their next ship,
> > > and doing various small jobs,
> > > or just beg for food in the meantime.
> > > The intermediate stage 'bietskommer' is documented. (and forgotten)
>
> > > into giving you something for free.
> > > (with the origin of the word generally forgotten)
>
> > > You can add: 'kan ik een biertje van je bietsen'
> > > to your Dutch phrase book, in case you ever go there.
>
> > > Such knowledge of Dutch slang cannot remain unrewarded,
>
> > > Jan
>
> > That etymology can't be right - it has nothing to do with a Lost
> > Tribe, or Atlantis, or anything like that.. :)
>
> Gene Scott said so.
Seriously, when I first read this I'd thought you'd written "Genie
Scott," and were just raising someone else you'd bummed beer off of.
Mitchell
Ye Old One
I know this is tempting providence, but I've managed to go through 55
years of life without breaking a single bone in my body. A few women's
hearts maybe, but that is another story :)
--
Bob.
Frank J
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 03:02:24 -0800 (PST), Frank J <f...@verizon.net>
Only 51 for me, but it was 2 bones, 3 fractures total, so that's an
average of one fracture every 17 years.
Now I'm really curious. At 55Y 71d am I older than the old one?
Free Lunch
talk.origins:
Well, I'm as old as you, but my mother (three times) and sister
(probably twice) have taken the hit for me. Or something.
John Wilkins
<06c494ad-a914-458d...@u37g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
Frank J <fc...@verizon.net> wrote:
I'm a bit clumsy. At 54 my tally is two broken left fibias, mangled
metatarsals, and a lost left index finger. All damage on the left side,
oddly...
And it's Xmas. X is the reason for the season. All celebrate the birth
of X.
VoiceOfReason
> John Wilkins wrote:
> > So, last night I had several beers and a shouted conversation in a
> > popular pub with Sapient Fridge, bringing the total number of t.o-ers I
> > have met and mooched beer off to a considerable number (possibly more
> > that Nedin, and almost as many as PZ).
>
> Why do atheists like to boast about their drinking? Is there some kind
> of pride to be derived?
> You can tell an atheist from a Christian. Christians get together and
> talk about their families, friends and God.
> Atheists talk about how many friends they had a drink with, and how
> drunk they got.
>
> Just wondering
You've obviously never been to Ireland. (Or anyplace else outside
Hooterville, by the sound of it.)
VoiceOfReason
I once broke two toes in my sleep. Weird dream, animal nibbled my
foot, went to kick him and in the process actually kicked myself in
the heel.
In my family, I was the master of weird illnesses.
Ye Old One
Nope beat you by 210 days. St Patrick's day 1954 was not only a good
day for the Irish :)
--
Bob.
Ye Old One
My mother spent late christmas eve, early christmas morning (2004) on
the operating table having a fractured femur reconstructed after a
fall. The before and after X-rays made one of the medical journals.
She was 79 at the time and many said she would never walk again - she
proved them wrong.
My bother has broken just about every bone in his body at one time or
another. One walked away for a head on lorry collision only to find
later both legs needed pining because of cracks.
And no, I don't featherbed myself, I've done quite a few adventurous
things.
--
Bob.
Did you know that 1 in 4 people make up a quarter of the world's
population?
Mitchell Coffey
> In article
> <06c494ad-a914-458d-be73-4414adb31...@u37g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
At 32 years old the worse I've managed has been frostbitten toes on my
third assent of Everest.
> And it's Xmas. X is the reason for the season. All celebrate the birth
> of X.
Oddly, outside of Microsoft, no one seems to celebrated the birth of
XP. Or do they? Or is that the founding of the modern capital of
Egypt?
Mitchell
Xavier Onnasis
news:211220090715046762%jo...@wilkins.id.au:
> People drink beer when they get together, Nashie, even religious
> people. I had four beers and a Coke over three hours. This is not,
> I think, terribly dissolute.
but you're Australian, right? don't you feel like such
meager consumption lets down the home team?
--
XO
Xavier Onnasis
Xavier Onnasis
> YMMV, but I have met more people in a year
> than you have in a lifetime.
most folks prefer quality over quantity
> Alcohol is the scourge of humanity.
no doubt this is why Jesus turned water into wine
--
XO
heekster
I don't understand. Why do you think you're old, at a mere half
century and change?
John Wilkins
Onnasis <xavier.onnasis@mule_brokers.com> wrote:
Oddly, not all Australians drink a lot of beer. Strange but true.
Ye Old One
I've not been called that in at least 25 years :)
--
Bob.
God: Whew! I just created a 24-hour period of alternating light and
darkness on Earth.
Angel: What are you going to do now?
God: I think I'll call it a day.
Xavier Onnasis
jo...@wilkins.id.au:
dang...another cool urban legend shot down in flames
--
XO
SeppoP
They would, but so many of Australians have to spend so much time
rustling with tigersnakes, taipans, death adders, brownsnakes and tunnel
web spiders just to get to the nearest bar.
-- Seppo P.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Creationism is based on ignorance and dishonesty, it breeds from
ignorance and
dishonesty, and it breeds ignorance and dishonesty. Spreading ignorance and
dishonesty is the lifeblood and sustenance of the creationists.
Wallowing in
ignorance and dishonesty is the natural lifestyle of creationists.
Bob Berger
>
>So, last night I had several beers and a shouted conversation in a
>popular pub with Sapient Fridge, bringing the total number of t.o-ers I
>have met and mooched beer off to a considerable number (possibly more
>that Nedin, and almost as many as PZ).
Does this make you one of them there right wing t.o baggers?
Andre Lieven
> In article <Xns9CEBB6E21794EDentedButUndaun...@69.16.185.247>, Xavier
>
> Onnasis <xavier.onnasis@mule_brokers.com> wrote:
> > John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote in
> >news:211220090715046762%jo...@wilkins.id.au:
>
> > > People drink beer when they get together, Nashie, even religious
> > > people. I had four beers and a Coke over three hours. This is not,
> > > I think, terribly dissolute.
>
> > but you're Australian, right? �don't you feel like such
> > meager consumption lets down the home team?
>
> Oddly, not all Australians drink a lot of beer. Strange but true.
What if you only count the ones named Bruce ? <ducks and runs>
Andre
Cubist
SeppoP wrote:
> John Wilkins wrote:
> > In article <Xns9CEBB6E21794ED...@69.16.185.247>, Xavier
> > Onnasis <xavier.onnasis@mule_brokers.com> wrote:
> >
> >> John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote in
> >> news:211220090715046762%jo...@wilkins.id.au:
> >>
> >>> People drink beer when they get together, Nashie, even religious
> >>> people. I had four beers and a Coke over three hours. This is not,
> >>> I think, terribly dissolute.
> >> but you're Australian, right? don't you feel like such
> >> meager consumption lets down the home team?
> > Oddly, not all Australians drink a lot of beer. Strange but true.
> They would, but so many of Australians have to spend so much time
> rustling with tigersnakes, taipans, death adders, brownsnakes and tunnel
> web spiders just to get to the nearest bar.
And drop bears. One mustn't forget the drop bears.
Xavier Onnasis
jo...@wilkins.id.au:
dang...another cool urban legend shot down in flames
--
XO
Xavier Onnasis
john wilkins
> John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote in news:251220091534107813%
> jo...@wilkins.id.au:
>
> > In article <Xns9CEBB6E21794ED...@69.16.185.247>,
> > Xavier
> > Onnasis <xavier.onnasis@mule_brokers.com> wrote:
> >
> >> John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote in
> >> news:211220090715046762%jo...@wilkins.id.au:
> >>
> >> > People drink beer when they get together, Nashie, even religious
> >> > people. I had four beers and a Coke over three hours. This is
> > > > not,
> >> > I think, terribly dissolute.
> >>
> >> but you're Australian, right? don't you feel like such
> >> meager consumption lets down the home team?
> >
> > Oddly, not all Australians drink a lot of beer. Strange but true.
> >
>
>
> dang...another cool urban legend shot down in flames
I of course meant to add, we also drink good wine and spirits...
chris thompson
> > Greg G. <ggw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> On Dec 20, 1:16 pm, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
> >>> chris thompson wrote:
> >>>> On Dec 20, 12:38 pm, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
> >>>>> chris thompson wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Dec 19, 11:03 pm, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> So, last night I had several beers and a shouted conversation in a
> >>>>>>>> popular pub with Sapient Fridge, bringing the total number of t.o-ers
> >>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>> have met and mooched beer off to a considerable number (possibly more
> >>>>>>>> that Nedin, and almost as many as PZ).
> >>>>>>> their dog?
> >>>>>>> Mitchell
> >>>>>> Oooohhhh. I'm on a pretty exclusive list there!
> >>>>>> Chris
> >>>>> Suck up much?
> >>>> Go away you humorless stalker.
> >>> You do realize that you appear (as do many others) to suck up to Wilkins.
>
> >>> Not stalking you, just saying;)
Yeah you are stalking.
> >> They are friends in real life. But you wouldn't know anything about
> >> that.
>
> > Chris put on a very nice lunch for me and a number of others from t.o
> > in real life.
>
> No wonder. You guys *really* have no other relationships outside the
> posters in this group.
I have met John twice in my life. I have friends I see daily, or
weekly. I have friends I go fishing with almost every weekend in
Spring and Summer. Unfortunately, my boat is currently in drydock now
so I cannot hit the weaks that are begging to be caught.
In other words, FAIL.
>
> � I appreciated it a lot, and we had a fun time.
>
> That's nice.
You are not competent to comment on congenial social affairs. You are
a desperate denier-wannabe, and as such, you warrant much less
attention than any typical invertebrate.
>
> � I think
>
> > that Nashton only knows stalking as the sole human relationship and so
> > he presumes everyone stalks other people the same way he does.
>
> Yawn
Yes, that is often the response of psycho-emotionally damaged persons.
See your doctor.
Chris
J. J. Lodder
J. J. Lodder
Makes no difference, they all are.
The ones called John are just pretending,
Jan
Don Cates
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 23:04:51 GMT, Xavier Onnasis
> <xavier.onnasis@mule_brokers.com> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>
>> Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote in
>> news:5j44j55j5h9msd2q2...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:05:39 -0800 (PST), Frank J <fc...@verizon.net>
>>> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now I'm really curious. At 55Y 71d am I older than the old one?
>>> Nope beat you by 210 days. St Patrick's day 1954 was not only a good
>>> day for the Irish :)
>>>
>> whippersnapper
>
> I've not been called that in at least 25 years :)
>
--
--
Don Cates ("he's a cunning rascal" PN)
Walter Bushell
John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> In article
> <70b342a4-daed-4a12...@p32g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
> Frank J <fc...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 20, 10:10�am, Harry K <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Dec 20, 5:41�am, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > > John Wilkins wrote:
> > > > > So, last night I had several beers and a shouted conversation in a
> > > > > popular pub with Sapient Fridge, bringing the total number of t.o-ers
> > > > > I
> > > > > have met and mooched beer off to a considerable number (possibly more
> > > > > that Nedin, and almost as many as PZ).
> > >
> > > > Why do atheists like to boast about their drinking? Is there some kind
> > > > of pride to be derived?
> > > > You can tell an atheist from a Christian. Christians get together and
> > > > talk about their families, friends and God.
> > > > Atheists talk about how many friends they had a drink with, and how
> > > > drunk they got.
> > >
> > > > Just wondering
> > >
> > > We drink trying to forget how many morons like you are amongst us.
> > >
> > > Harry K
> >
> > It's the 4th anniversary of "Kitzmas." Let's drink to celebtate.
> >
> It's actually Xmas, celebrating the birth of the prophet X.
Isaac Newton?
--
A computer without Microsoft is like a chocolate cake without mustard.
john wilkins
No, the unknown messiah.
Walter Bushell
John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> In article <9emsi5p81tj5upvb8...@4ax.com>, heekster
> <heek...@ifiwxtc.net> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 09:41:17 -0400, Nashton <na...@na.ca> wrote:
> >
> > >John Wilkins wrote:
> > >> So, last night I had several beers and a shouted conversation in a
> > >> popular pub with Sapient Fridge, bringing the total number of t.o-ers I
> > >> have met and mooched beer off to a considerable number (possibly more
> > >> that Nedin, and almost as many as PZ).
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >Why do atheists like to boast about their drinking? Is there some kind
> > >of pride to be derived?
> > >You can tell an atheist from a Christian. Christians get together and
> > >talk about their families, friends and God.
> > >Atheists talk about how many friends they had a drink with, and how
> > >drunk they got.
> > >
> > >Just wondering
> >
> > A rather grandiose oversimplification, rife with erroneous
> > assumptions, and not unexpected from a sociopath. If you had the
> > intellectual capacity to think of people as people, instead of
> > Christians and atheists, you might learn some things.
> >
> Atheists, when they get together, talk about families, friends, and the
> total lack of cosmic purpose in the universe. The beer merely helps
> cushion the overwhelming sense of loss we don't feel.
>
> People drink beer when they get together, Nashie, even religious
> people. I had four beers and a Coke over three hours. This is not, I
> think, terribly dissolute.
Snort? The soft drink by that name is even more dangerous.
Paul J Gans
>No, the unknown messiah.
You rang?
--
--- Paul J. Gans
r norman
wrote:
>So, last night I had several beers and a shouted conversation in a
>popular pub with Sapient Fridge, bringing the total number of t.o-ers I
>have met and mooched beer off to a considerable number (possibly more
>that Nedin, and almost as many as PZ).
John W --
What the Hell are you doing in Brisbane, for God's sake?!! And
getting a paycheck isn't a good enough answer.
My wife and I will be in Sydney later in January and we thought we
could treat you to a beer (or two or three) plus evening type meal
food and you up and move away. But if you can come down Jan 18 or 19,
let me know.
(Or you could drop by Cairns or Uluru somewhat earlier in the month).
john wilkins
at Bond university and that is also why my newsgroup access is spotty.
Unfortunately, I start teaching on the 18th of January. You'll just have
to schedule a stopover in Brisbane.
el cid
> r norman <r_s_nor...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:03:43 +1000, John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au>
Bond University?!! Wow. A dear friend went there when it first opened,
left long ago. Bond was quite the character as I recall, not quite
up to Madoff standards, perhaps more like a Trump.
A private university in a land where university education is
free is such a fascinating thing. I recall Bond being described
as a home for Japanese malcontents a few years back, and
for others looking to do some out-of-country studies in the
romantic gold coast. Well, that's all shameless heresy
and nasty gossip. Hope it's a good gig for you.
john wilkins
Shhh... We don't mention him...
> A private university in a land where university education is
> free is such a fascinating thing. I recall Bond being described
> as a home for Japanese malcontents a few years back, and
> for others looking to do some out-of-country studies in the
> romantic gold coast. Well, that's all shameless heresy
> and nasty gossip. Hope it's a good gig for you.
It's changed a bit in the last few years.