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chris thompson
Apr 29, 2013, 6:06:15 PM4/29/13
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Hi
At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and a human embryo?
Chris
At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and a human embryo?
Chris
Thrinaxodon
Apr 29, 2013, 6:09:21 PM4/29/13
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On Apr 29, 6:06�pm, chris thompson <chris.linthomp...@gmail.com>
wrote:
wrote:
> Hi
>
> At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and a human embryo?
>
> Chris
Is this a serious question?
>
> At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and a human embryo?
>
> Chris
John Harshman
Apr 29, 2013, 6:16:24 PM4/29/13
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On 4/29/13 3:06 PM, chris thompson wrote:
> Hi
>
> At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and a human embryo?
What's the difference between a duck?
> Hi
>
> At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and a human embryo?
Richard Norman
Apr 29, 2013, 6:29:34 PM4/29/13
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distinguish an embryo as being human?" One anwer is from
Clifford Grobstein
The early development of human embryos
J Med Philos (1985) 10(3): 213-236
doi:10.1093/jmp/10.3.213
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4045331
The abstract says "at the end of the eighth week" but the text says
that from the fifth through the eighth week features increasingly
become recognizably human. Of course molecular biological tests will
determine that an embryo is human even from the one-cell stage.
chris thompson
Apr 29, 2013, 6:36:48 PM4/29/13
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Free Lunch
Apr 29, 2013, 6:40:54 PM4/29/13
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:16:24 -0700, John Harshman
<jhar...@pacbell.net> wrote in talk.origins:
Why a duck?
<jhar...@pacbell.net> wrote in talk.origins:
Ron O
Apr 29, 2013, 7:14:08 PM4/29/13
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On Apr 29, 5:36�pm, chris thompson <chris.linthomp...@gmail.com>
wrote:
If you are asking about mammals and birds it is very early. The chick
embryo develops on the surface of the yolk and so is flat compared to
a placental mammal embryo at very early stages. You can't tell that
the mammal is human until later.
Ron Okimoto
wrote:
embryo develops on the surface of the yolk and so is flat compared to
a placental mammal embryo at very early stages. You can't tell that
the mammal is human until later.
Ron Okimoto
Burkhard
Apr 29, 2013, 7:30:21 PM4/29/13
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particularly ..male.. recently
czebat...@gmail.com
Apr 29, 2013, 7:53:52 PM4/29/13
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No! Viaduct!
gregwrld
gregwrld
John Harshman
Apr 29, 2013, 7:54:55 PM4/29/13
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determine that the embryo *was* human.
John Harshman
Apr 29, 2013, 7:57:27 PM4/29/13
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difference between a macrolecithal and a microlecithal egg is
pronounced. Even if the microlecithal egg distinctly remembers being
macrolecithal only a hundred million years ago.
Richard Norman
Apr 29, 2013, 8:02:37 PM4/29/13
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:14:08 -0700 (PDT), Ron O <roki...@cox.net>
wrote:
Yes, the structure of the bird egg is so massively different from that
of a mammal that the difference is immediately obvious.
wrote:
of a mammal that the difference is immediately obvious.
jillery
Apr 29, 2013, 8:12:09 PM4/29/13
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single-cell stage. Or are you asking about features at the
macroscopic level?
John Harshman
Apr 29, 2013, 8:16:29 PM4/29/13
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extra-embryonic membranes, is there a big difference between, e.g.,
avian and mammalian gastrulas?
Robert Carnegie
Apr 29, 2013, 8:36:25 PM4/29/13
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On Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:02:37 UTC+1, Richard Norman wrote:
> Yes, the structure of the bird egg is so massively different from that
> of a mammal that the difference is immediately obvious.
Yeah, c'mon, it has a shell.
> Yes, the structure of the bird egg is so massively different from that
> of a mammal that the difference is immediately obvious.
Paul J Gans
Apr 29, 2013, 9:45:55 PM4/29/13
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most of the chicks I know are the very image of human.
--
--- Paul J. Gans
Bob Berger
Apr 29, 2013, 9:57:01 PM4/29/13
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In article <kln7oj$4jb$3...@reader1.panix.com>, Paul J Gans says...
I KNEW that was coming, and by whom. :-)
Richard Norman
Apr 29, 2013, 10:19:59 PM4/29/13
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cleavage where the zygote divides completely splitting the tiny yolk
quantity between the two cells. Birds have meroblastic cleavage where
only the "animal pole" part of the cell actually divides; the yolk is
not separated. Of course monotremes have large yolks and meroblastic
cleavage but they don't really count. Wikipedia also lists other
characteristics unique to early placental mammalian embryos -- the
development of the trophoblast, for example, necessary for embedding
into the uterus and forming the placenta, and separated from the inner
cell mass which forms the embryo.
Yes there are blastulas, gastrulas, neurulas and all but they look
very different.
John Harshman
Apr 29, 2013, 11:55:09 PM4/29/13
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be prior to formation of the embryo.
> Yes there are blastulas, gastrulas, neurulas and all but they look
> very different.
Arkalen
Apr 30, 2013, 4:49:34 AM4/30/13
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in which case the answer would be "even at 9 months it can be difficult".
(In the case of twins I've had trouble at 213 months)
Arkalen
Apr 30, 2013, 4:52:26 AM4/30/13
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with initial stages varying a lot between groups but becoming very
similar at the pharyngula (?) stage, and then diverging again.
Something about that stage being the one where cells are just beginning
to differentiate ?
Richard Norman
Apr 30, 2013, 8:09:37 AM4/30/13
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similarities. The earliest cleavage stages differ in different
animals: holoblastic vs. meroblastic, radial vs. bilateral,
determinate vs. indeterminate. Diagrams illustrating these emphasize
these differences.
Ignoring those differences, there is a general trend in bilateral
animals: morula, blastula, bastrula. Vertebrate animals have
additional shared stages: neurula, pharyngula. Diagrams illustrating
these emphasize the similarities.
As you get more complex morphogenesis and organogenesis more and more
differences between animals becomes evident. However you still have
similarities. The whole Haeckel drawings controversy is because those
drawings emphasized the similarities by underplaying the differences.
The differences are real but so are the similarities.
Look carelessly and you can easily see the difference between bird and
mammal right from the onset. Look closely and you cannot readily see
the differences between various placental mammals for a substantial
length of time.
Walter Bushell
Apr 30, 2013, 8:55:44 AM4/30/13
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In article <kln8d...@drn.newsguy.com>,
Hey, it easily could have be Mr. Bushell.
--
Gambling with Other People's Money is the meth of the fiscal industry.
me -- in the spirit of Karl and Groucho Marx
--
Gambling with Other People's Money is the meth of the fiscal industry.
me -- in the spirit of Karl and Groucho Marx
David Canzi
Apr 30, 2013, 9:34:21 AM4/30/13
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between a teal?"
--
David Canzi | Eternal truths come and go. |
eridanus
Apr 30, 2013, 12:19:07 PM4/30/13
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El martes, 30 de abril de 2013 00:30:21 UTC+1, Burkhard escribi�:
Horny almighty Zeus fell in love with the beautiful princess Leda. But
fearing the god to frighten the beautiful lady with hist powerful body
and shining image, he disguised as might white male swan, for she loved
a lot the swans. Then, the divine male swan began to walk up and down, swaggering his rear to excite the passion of the princess. She began
to drool with the divine swaggering and opened up for the divine swan.
Fruits of the divine copulation Leda laid an egg, from which were
hatched Helen, Castor and Polydeuces; and in consequence Leda was
deified as the goddess Nemesis. It can be seen in the sky forming
the figure of a Swan, and people talk of these cluster as the stars
of the swan to celebrate the divine copulation of Zeus with Leda.
Other gospels tell quite different stories but all those had been
declared heretic and apocryphal gospels.
Eridanus
gave out
fearing the god to frighten the beautiful lady with hist powerful body
and shining image, he disguised as might white male swan, for she loved
a lot the swans. Then, the divine male swan began to walk up and down, swaggering his rear to excite the passion of the princess. She began
to drool with the divine swaggering and opened up for the divine swan.
Fruits of the divine copulation Leda laid an egg, from which were
hatched Helen, Castor and Polydeuces; and in consequence Leda was
deified as the goddess Nemesis. It can be seen in the sky forming
the figure of a Swan, and people talk of these cluster as the stars
of the swan to celebrate the divine copulation of Zeus with Leda.
Other gospels tell quite different stories but all those had been
declared heretic and apocryphal gospels.
Eridanus
gave out
chris thompson
Apr 30, 2013, 12:25:17 PM4/30/13
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On Apr 30, 8:09�am, Richard Norman <r_s_nor...@comcast.net> wrote:
Thank you, Ron, Richard and John. Despite my initial idiotic typo,
this is exactly the kind of information I was hoping for.
Unfortunately, I tossed my Embryology textbook long ago, otherwise I
would have just looked up the answers- and I freely admit to being too
lazy to do a web search. Sometimes, it just seems like a lot more work
to scour the web than to open a paper book.
Thanks
Chris
> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:52:26 +0100, Arkalen <arka...@inbox.com> wrote:
> >On 30/04/13 04:55, John Harshman wrote:
> >> On 4/29/13 7:19 PM, Richard Norman wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 17:16:29 -0700, John Harshman
> >>> <jharsh...@pacbell.net> �wrote:
> >On 30/04/13 04:55, John Harshman wrote:
> >> On 4/29/13 7:19 PM, Richard Norman wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 17:16:29 -0700, John Harshman
>
> >>>> On 4/29/13 5:02 PM, Richard Norman wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:14:08 -0700 (PDT), Ron O<rokim...@cox.net>
> >>>> On 4/29/13 5:02 PM, Richard Norman wrote:
this is exactly the kind of information I was hoping for.
Unfortunately, I tossed my Embryology textbook long ago, otherwise I
would have just looked up the answers- and I freely admit to being too
lazy to do a web search. Sometimes, it just seems like a lot more work
to scour the web than to open a paper book.
Thanks
Chris
Bob Casanova
Apr 30, 2013, 1:20:07 PM4/30/13
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:16:24 -0700, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
<jhar...@pacbell.net>:
Down, boy!
--
Bob C.
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov
in talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
<jhar...@pacbell.net>:
--
Bob C.
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov
Bob Casanova
Apr 30, 2013, 1:22:29 PM4/30/13
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 17:36:25 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in talk.origins, posted by Robert Carnegie
<rja.ca...@excite.com>:
Ah, but which shell is the embryo under?
appeared in talk.origins, posted by Robert Carnegie
<rja.ca...@excite.com>:
Bob Casanova
Apr 30, 2013, 1:24:22 PM4/30/13
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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 08:55:44 -0400, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com>:
>In article <kln8d...@drn.newsguy.com>,
> Bob Berger <Bob_m...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <kln7oj$4jb$3...@reader1.panix.com>, Paul J Gans says...
>> >
>> >chris thompson <chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>On Monday, April 29, 2013 6:06:15 PM UTC-4, chris thompson wrote:
>> >>> Hi
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and a
>> >>>human
>> >>>embryo?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Chris
>> >
>> >>ACK human embryo and chick embryo. My bad.
>> >
>> >OK. Now you are in for a bad spell of chick humor. After all
>> >most of the chicks I know are the very image of human.
>>
>> I KNEW that was coming, and by whom. :-)
>
>Hey, it easily could have be Mr. Bushell.
....or Wilkins, if he happened to be tuned in.
in talk.origins, posted by Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com>:
>In article <kln8d...@drn.newsguy.com>,
> Bob Berger <Bob_m...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <kln7oj$4jb$3...@reader1.panix.com>, Paul J Gans says...
>> >
>> >chris thompson <chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>On Monday, April 29, 2013 6:06:15 PM UTC-4, chris thompson wrote:
>> >>> Hi
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and a
>> >>>human
>> >>>embryo?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Chris
>> >
>> >>ACK human embryo and chick embryo. My bad.
>> >
>> >OK. Now you are in for a bad spell of chick humor. After all
>> >most of the chicks I know are the very image of human.
>>
>> I KNEW that was coming, and by whom. :-)
>
>Hey, it easily could have be Mr. Bushell.
Desertphile
Apr 30, 2013, 3:31:10 PM4/30/13
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:06:15 -0700 (PDT), chris thompson
<chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and a human embryo?
Never.
<chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and a human embryo?
> Chris
--
Nemo me impune lacessit.
"A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government."
Walter Bushell
Apr 30, 2013, 2:31:18 PM4/30/13
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In article
<da0a88cc-454b-41a7...@t5g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
problem exists between cerebellum and keyboard.
<da0a88cc-454b-41a7...@t5g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
chris thompson <chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you, Ron, Richard and John. Despite my initial idiotic typo,
> this is exactly the kind of information I was hoping for.
> Unfortunately, I tossed my Embryology textbook long ago, otherwise I
> would have just looked up the answers- and I freely admit to being too
> lazy to do a web search. Sometimes, it just seems like a lot more work
> to scour the web than to open a paper book.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
I think that was a thinko rather than a typo. Or an intermediate case,
> Thank you, Ron, Richard and John. Despite my initial idiotic typo,
> this is exactly the kind of information I was hoping for.
> Unfortunately, I tossed my Embryology textbook long ago, otherwise I
> would have just looked up the answers- and I freely admit to being too
> lazy to do a web search. Sometimes, it just seems like a lot more work
> to scour the web than to open a paper book.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
problem exists between cerebellum and keyboard.
Desertphile
Apr 30, 2013, 3:31:30 PM4/30/13
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 17:40:54 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
Because she's dressed like one!
wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:16:24 -0700, John Harshman
> <jhar...@pacbell.net> wrote in talk.origins:
>
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:16:24 -0700, John Harshman
> <jhar...@pacbell.net> wrote in talk.origins:
>
> >On 4/29/13 3:06 PM, chris thompson wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and a human embryo?
> >
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and a human embryo?
> >
> >What's the difference between a duck?
>
> Why a duck?
>
Because she's dressed like one!
Desertphile
Apr 30, 2013, 3:31:46 PM4/30/13
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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:20:07 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:16:24 -0700, the following appeared
> in talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
> <jhar...@pacbell.net>:
>
> >On 4/29/13 3:06 PM, chris thompson wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and a human embryo?
> >
> >What's the difference between a duck?
>
> Down, boy!
No, that's an elephant.
wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:16:24 -0700, the following appeared
> in talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
> <jhar...@pacbell.net>:
>
> >On 4/29/13 3:06 PM, chris thompson wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and a human embryo?
> >
> >What's the difference between a duck?
>
> Down, boy!
jillery
Apr 30, 2013, 3:33:39 PM4/30/13
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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 12:31:10 -0700, Desertphile
<Deser...@spammegmail.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:06:15 -0700 (PDT), chris thompson
><chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and a human embryo?
>
>Never.
It was a trick question, as in his mind was playing tricks on him. You
<Deser...@spammegmail.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:06:15 -0700 (PDT), chris thompson
><chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and a human embryo?
>
>Never.
might have noticed I have that problem too!
SkyEyes
Apr 30, 2013, 5:30:53 PM4/30/13
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On Apr 30, 11:36�am, Desertphile <Desertph...@spammegmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:20:07 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:16:24 -0700, the following appeared
> > in talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
> > <jharsh...@pacbell.net>:
> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:20:07 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:16:24 -0700, the following appeared
> > in talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
>
> > >On 4/29/13 3:06 PM, chris thompson wrote:
> > >> Hi
>
> > >> At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and a human embryo?
>
> > >What's the difference between a duck?
>
> > Down, boy!
>
> No, that's an elephant.
You can't get down off an elephant. You only get down off a duck.
> > >On 4/29/13 3:06 PM, chris thompson wrote:
> > >> Hi
>
> > >> At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and a human embryo?
>
> > >What's the difference between a duck?
>
> > Down, boy!
>
> No, that's an elephant.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
Earle Jones
Apr 30, 2013, 7:13:20 PM4/30/13
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In article <fnttn8dsed9hk8d6h...@4ax.com>,
One of his feet are both the same.
earle
*
Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:16:24 -0700, John Harshman
> <jhar...@pacbell.net> wrote in talk.origins:
>
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:16:24 -0700, John Harshman
> <jhar...@pacbell.net> wrote in talk.origins:
>
> >On 4/29/13 3:06 PM, chris thompson wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and a
> >> human embryo?
> >
> >What's the difference between a duck?
*
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and a
> >> human embryo?
> >
> >What's the difference between a duck?
One of his feet are both the same.
earle
*
Bob Casanova
May 1, 2013, 5:57:28 PM5/1/13
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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:30:53 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in talk.origins, posted by SkyEyes
<skye...@cox.net>:
>On Apr 30, 11:36�am, Desertphile <Desertph...@spammegmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:20:07 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:16:24 -0700, the following appeared
>> > in talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
>> > <jharsh...@pacbell.net>:
>>
>> > >On 4/29/13 3:06 PM, chris thompson wrote:
>> > >> Hi
>>
>> > >> At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and a human embryo?
>>
>> > >What's the difference between a duck?
>>
>> > Down, boy!
>>
>> No, that's an elephant.
>
>You can't get down off an elephant. You only get down off a duck.
Now say the secret word and win $100.
appeared in talk.origins, posted by SkyEyes
<skye...@cox.net>:
>On Apr 30, 11:36�am, Desertphile <Desertph...@spammegmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:20:07 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:16:24 -0700, the following appeared
>> > in talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
>> > <jharsh...@pacbell.net>:
>>
>> > >On 4/29/13 3:06 PM, chris thompson wrote:
>> > >> Hi
>>
>> > >> At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and a human embryo?
>>
>> > >What's the difference between a duck?
>>
>> > Down, boy!
>>
>> No, that's an elephant.
>
>You can't get down off an elephant. You only get down off a duck.
Walter Bushell
May 4, 2013, 11:09:36 AM5/4/13
to
In article <8t33o8t182n0irosc...@4ax.com>,
Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:30:53 -0700 (PDT), the following
> appeared in talk.origins, posted by SkyEyes
> <skye...@cox.net>:
>
> >On Apr 30, 11:36 am, Desertphile <Desertph...@spammegmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:20:07 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:16:24 -0700, the following appeared
> >> > in talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
> >> > <jharsh...@pacbell.net>:
> >>
> >> > >On 4/29/13 3:06 PM, chris thompson wrote:
> >> > >> Hi
> >>
> >> > >> At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and
> >> > >> a human embryo?
> >>
> >> > >What's the difference between a duck?
> >>
> >> > Down, boy!
> >>
> >> No, that's an elephant.
> >
> >You can't get down off an elephant. You only get down off a duck.
>
> Now say the secret word and win $100.
Actually down from a goose is better.
> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:30:53 -0700 (PDT), the following
> appeared in talk.origins, posted by SkyEyes
> <skye...@cox.net>:
>
> >On Apr 30, 11:36 am, Desertphile <Desertph...@spammegmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:20:07 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:16:24 -0700, the following appeared
> >> > in talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
> >> > <jharsh...@pacbell.net>:
> >>
> >> > >On 4/29/13 3:06 PM, chris thompson wrote:
> >> > >> Hi
> >>
> >> > >> At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and
> >> > >> a human embryo?
> >>
> >> > >What's the difference between a duck?
> >>
> >> > Down, boy!
> >>
> >> No, that's an elephant.
> >
> >You can't get down off an elephant. You only get down off a duck.
>
> Now say the secret word and win $100.
Richard Norman
May 4, 2013, 11:25:49 AM5/4/13
to
On Sat, 04 May 2013 11:09:36 -0400, Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com>
wrote:
>In article <8t33o8t182n0irosc...@4ax.com>,
> Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:30:53 -0700 (PDT), the following
>> appeared in talk.origins, posted by SkyEyes
>> <skye...@cox.net>:
>>
>> >On Apr 30, 11:36 am, Desertphile <Desertph...@spammegmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:20:07 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:16:24 -0700, the following appeared
>> >> > in talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
>> >> > <jharsh...@pacbell.net>:
>> >>
>> >> > >On 4/29/13 3:06 PM, chris thompson wrote:
>> >> > >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> > >> At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and
>> >> > >> a human embryo?
>> >>
>> >> > >What's the difference between a duck?
>> >>
>> >> > Down, boy!
>> >>
>> >> No, that's an elephant.
>> >
>> >You can't get down off an elephant. You only get down off a duck.
>>
>> Now say the secret word and win $100.
>
>Actually down from a goose is better.
Eider will do.
wrote:
>In article <8t33o8t182n0irosc...@4ax.com>,
> Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:30:53 -0700 (PDT), the following
>> appeared in talk.origins, posted by SkyEyes
>> <skye...@cox.net>:
>>
>> >On Apr 30, 11:36 am, Desertphile <Desertph...@spammegmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:20:07 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:16:24 -0700, the following appeared
>> >> > in talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
>> >> > <jharsh...@pacbell.net>:
>> >>
>> >> > >On 4/29/13 3:06 PM, chris thompson wrote:
>> >> > >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> > >> At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and
>> >> > >> a human embryo?
>> >>
>> >> > >What's the difference between a duck?
>> >>
>> >> > Down, boy!
>> >>
>> >> No, that's an elephant.
>> >
>> >You can't get down off an elephant. You only get down off a duck.
>>
>> Now say the secret word and win $100.
>
>Actually down from a goose is better.
Bob Casanova
May 4, 2013, 1:16:50 PM5/4/13
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On Sat, 04 May 2013 11:09:36 -0400, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com>:
>In article <8t33o8t182n0irosc...@4ax.com>,
> Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:30:53 -0700 (PDT), the following
>> appeared in talk.origins, posted by SkyEyes
>> <skye...@cox.net>:
>>
>> >On Apr 30, 11:36 am, Desertphile <Desertph...@spammegmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:20:07 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:16:24 -0700, the following appeared
>> >> > in talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
>> >> > <jharsh...@pacbell.net>:
>> >>
>> >> > >On 4/29/13 3:06 PM, chris thompson wrote:
>> >> > >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> > >> At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and
>> >> > >> a human embryo?
>> >>
>> >> > >What's the difference between a duck?
>> >>
>> >> > Down, boy!
>> >>
>> >> No, that's an elephant.
>> >
>> >You can't get down off an elephant. You only get down off a duck.
>>
>> Now say the secret word and win $100.
>
>Actually down from a goose is better.
I'd like to take a gander at the data.
in talk.origins, posted by Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com>:
>In article <8t33o8t182n0irosc...@4ax.com>,
> Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:30:53 -0700 (PDT), the following
>> appeared in talk.origins, posted by SkyEyes
>> <skye...@cox.net>:
>>
>> >On Apr 30, 11:36 am, Desertphile <Desertph...@spammegmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:20:07 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:16:24 -0700, the following appeared
>> >> > in talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
>> >> > <jharsh...@pacbell.net>:
>> >>
>> >> > >On 4/29/13 3:06 PM, chris thompson wrote:
>> >> > >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> > >> At what point can one reliably distinguish between a human embryo and
>> >> > >> a human embryo?
>> >>
>> >> > >What's the difference between a duck?
>> >>
>> >> > Down, boy!
>> >>
>> >> No, that's an elephant.
>> >
>> >You can't get down off an elephant. You only get down off a duck.
>>
>> Now say the secret word and win $100.
>
>Actually down from a goose is better.
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