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prawnster
Apr 24, 2012, 8:34:48 PM4/24/12
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I meet a lot of libs in my day-to-day doings. And every last one of
them is a status whore. They name-drop. They are concerned with how
much money people have or make. They're obsessed with brand names or
talking about living in desirable ZIP codes or particularly posh
neighborhoods. They will actually tell you how much they paid for a
house, just so's you know how wealthy they are. And worst of all,
they'll ask questions about you just so they can rank you in their
social hierarchy and know whether they should have contempt for you or
have a gnawing, bitter feeling of jealousy toward you.
And of course they all believe in Darwinism, have no religion, and yet
claim to be "spiritual," whatever that means.
Also, they hold all the expected beliefs: America sucks; the War on
Bad Weather is the Most Important Thing Ever; Europe is where it's at;
veganism is the way to go; blah blah blah.
Is my experience unusual or are libs, without exception, a bunch of
emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
them is a status whore. They name-drop. They are concerned with how
much money people have or make. They're obsessed with brand names or
talking about living in desirable ZIP codes or particularly posh
neighborhoods. They will actually tell you how much they paid for a
house, just so's you know how wealthy they are. And worst of all,
they'll ask questions about you just so they can rank you in their
social hierarchy and know whether they should have contempt for you or
have a gnawing, bitter feeling of jealousy toward you.
And of course they all believe in Darwinism, have no religion, and yet
claim to be "spiritual," whatever that means.
Also, they hold all the expected beliefs: America sucks; the War on
Bad Weather is the Most Important Thing Ever; Europe is where it's at;
veganism is the way to go; blah blah blah.
Is my experience unusual or are libs, without exception, a bunch of
emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
John Harshman
Apr 24, 2012, 8:41:59 PM4/24/12
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prawnster wrote:
> I meet a lot of libs in my day-to-day doings. And every last one of
> them is a status whore. They name-drop. They are concerned with how
> much money people have or make. They're obsessed with brand names or
> talking about living in desirable ZIP codes or particularly posh
> neighborhoods. They will actually tell you how much they paid for a
> house, just so's you know how wealthy they are. And worst of all,
> they'll ask questions about you just so they can rank you in their
> social hierarchy and know whether they should have contempt for you or
> have a gnawing, bitter feeling of jealousy toward you.
Hey, I don't have to know your social status to know I should have
> I meet a lot of libs in my day-to-day doings. And every last one of
> them is a status whore. They name-drop. They are concerned with how
> much money people have or make. They're obsessed with brand names or
> talking about living in desirable ZIP codes or particularly posh
> neighborhoods. They will actually tell you how much they paid for a
> house, just so's you know how wealthy they are. And worst of all,
> they'll ask questions about you just so they can rank you in their
> social hierarchy and know whether they should have contempt for you or
> have a gnawing, bitter feeling of jealousy toward you.
contempt for you.
> And of course they all believe in Darwinism, have no religion, and yet
> claim to be "spiritual," whatever that means.
>
> Also, they hold all the expected beliefs: America sucks; the War on
> Bad Weather is the Most Important Thing Ever; Europe is where it's at;
> veganism is the way to go; blah blah blah.
>
> Is my experience unusual or are libs, without exception, a bunch of
> emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
UC
Apr 24, 2012, 8:45:56 PM4/24/12
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UC
Apr 24, 2012, 8:47:11 PM4/24/12
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Inez
Apr 24, 2012, 8:50:49 PM4/24/12
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eat babies at their satanic rites. Some attempt to have intimate
relationships with their guns and emasculate themselves. None of
their breath smells either fresh or minty.
prawnster
Apr 24, 2012, 8:57:14 PM4/24/12
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> [...]
liberal." That's why I asked the question.
And this from the man who names those he disagrees with "troll". I'm
pretty sure you're projecting when you state that my repeated
experiences are hallucinatory. You're the one who thinks that
interpretation and observation are the same thing, so clearly you have
trouble distinguishing between things that are real (observations) and
things that might not be real (interpretations).
> > Is my experience unusual or are libs, without exception, a bunch of
> > emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
>
> Your experience is not only unusual; it's hallucinatory.
Wrong. I just talked to another one today. A self-declared "big ol'
> > emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
>
> Your experience is not only unusual; it's hallucinatory.
liberal." That's why I asked the question.
And this from the man who names those he disagrees with "troll". I'm
pretty sure you're projecting when you state that my repeated
experiences are hallucinatory. You're the one who thinks that
interpretation and observation are the same thing, so clearly you have
trouble distinguishing between things that are real (observations) and
things that might not be real (interpretations).
prawnster
Apr 24, 2012, 9:05:54 PM4/24/12
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On Apr 24, 5:50 pm, Inez <savagemouse...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
> [...]
> I meet a lot of conservatives in my day-to-day doings, and all of them
> eat babies at their satanic rites. Some attempt to have intimate
> relationships with their guns and emasculate themselves. None of
> their breath smells either fresh or minty.
LQTM.
> eat babies at their satanic rites. Some attempt to have intimate
> relationships with their guns and emasculate themselves. None of
> their breath smells either fresh or minty.
Richard Norman
Apr 24, 2012, 9:17:53 PM4/24/12
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emotionally-insecure status whore poseur, but I think I am a pretty
good emotionally-insecure status whore poseur.
prawnster
Apr 24, 2012, 9:04:11 PM4/24/12
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On Apr 24, 5:41 pm, John Harshman <jharsh...@pacbell.net> wrote:
you in exacting detail above? Did the mirror I held up to you make
you see something you'd rather not think about?
*Hemidactylus*
Apr 24, 2012, 9:24:39 PM4/24/12
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http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/4e26fe6654993738
[quote]Why do you assume I'm a Repube? I'm in fact a registered Communist
and am not convinced that welfare systems managed by churches are
superior to welfare systems managed by the State -- both are
inherently flawed creations of sinful men, and are flawed in equal but
different ways. Not believing in an unobserved fantasy like evolution
has nothing to do with my beliefs about how a nation should deal with
its losers, drug addicts, and malingerers. [quote]
You are having a hard time convincing me you are not a member of the
Sean Hannity Fan Club, especially given a thread like this. To an
self-identified commie, someone having no religion should be a good
thing, no?
--
*Hemidactylus*
*Hemidactylus*
Apr 24, 2012, 9:33:26 PM4/24/12
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Hopefully they remove the ammo first, but if not then they chances of
them spreading their haploids into the next generation will be greatly
reduced and that might be a good thing. A genetic predisposition for
that sort of cannon onan behavior should be culled.
--
*Hemidactylus*
prawnster
Apr 24, 2012, 9:34:36 PM4/24/12
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committed reader of mine.
I don't belong to a church. And I would rather not have to attend a
church and listen to some boring-ass sermon about things I already
know from the Bible just so that I can thrive in a community. That is
the advantage of a state-run welfare system: it saves me from having
to bow and scrape before the church's self-anointed poobahs. The
disadvantage of state-run welfare systems, among many others, is that
the people adminstering the system have little way of knowing if a
person is a malingerer or drug addicted loser.
I registered as a Commie just for kicks (and get phone calls and junk
mail from the Democraps; no surprise there). But I'm certainly no
rightwinger; I'm purely a prawnster-partisan.
*Hemidactylus*
Apr 24, 2012, 10:14:49 PM4/24/12
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--
*Hemidactylus*
prawnster
Apr 24, 2012, 10:36:07 PM4/24/12
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On Apr 24, 7:14 pm, *Hemidactylus* <ecpho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 04/24/2012 09:17 PM, Richard Norman wrote:
> [...]
> On 04/24/2012 09:17 PM, Richard Norman wrote:
> > Damn! I thought I was able to hide all that much better. OK, I am an
> > emotionally-insecure status whore poseur, but I think I am a pretty
> > good emotionally-insecure status whore poseur.
>
> Do you own a Lexus?
>
First, it's good that Mr. Norman is able to admit unappealing things
> > emotionally-insecure status whore poseur, but I think I am a pretty
> > good emotionally-insecure status whore poseur.
>
> Do you own a Lexus?
>
about himself. I know a lib who is a pure status whore, and he's
aware of it, has the ability to ironically detach from and make light
of himself, and he's one of the most fun people I know to be around,
status-whoring poseur or not.
And second, the current status symbol among the emotionally-insecure
status whore is the Prius or Leaf because it proves one's commitment
to the War on Bad Weather. The Lexus is, comparatively, a gas guzzler
and is equivalent to anally raping Mother Earth every time you start
the engine. However, the Leaf promotes tree growth, indicated by a
tree graphic on the instrument panel that grows taller when you use
less fuel and put less CO2 into the atmosphere. Talk about dumb dumb
dumb: trees grow because of CO2 in the atmosphere, don't ya know. If
the designers of the Leaf had any brains, the tree would grow taller
and taller whenever you put the pedal to the metal, duh.
osugeography
Apr 24, 2012, 11:03:49 PM4/24/12
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Ymir
Apr 24, 2012, 11:09:35 PM4/24/12
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In article
<96199c72-975a-47e8...@k7g2000pbo.googlegroups.com>,
used to have a minty fresh baby.
André
<96199c72-975a-47e8...@k7g2000pbo.googlegroups.com>,
Inez <savagem...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I meet a lot of conservatives in my day-to-day doings, and all of them
> eat babies at their satanic rites. Some attempt to have intimate
> relationships with their guns and emasculate themselves. None of
> their breath smells either fresh or minty.
I met one once who had minty fresh breath, but that's only because they
> I meet a lot of conservatives in my day-to-day doings, and all of them
> eat babies at their satanic rites. Some attempt to have intimate
> relationships with their guns and emasculate themselves. None of
> their breath smells either fresh or minty.
used to have a minty fresh baby.
André
Robert Camp
Apr 24, 2012, 11:19:24 PM4/24/12
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On Apr 24, 5:34 pm, prawnster <zweibro...@ymail.com> wrote:
The only reasonable course of action is to have nothing more to do
with any of us.
RLC
James Beck
Apr 24, 2012, 11:30:11 PM4/24/12
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*Hemidactylus*
Apr 24, 2012, 11:45:45 PM4/24/12
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combustion only. But in some cases electric cars may not be as green as
the driver thinks, especially if the powerplant uses dirty coal. But
good sources of energy make electric cars much greener and maybe the way
of a greener and much happier future for us status whore libs who hate
God and Ayn Rand (who is in heaven for her scholarship if you didn't
know already) and love polar bears and whales.
"Anyone over 30 years of age today, give a silent “Thank you” to the
nearest, grimiest, sootiest smokestacks you can find."- Ayn Rand
http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/ecology-environmental_movement.html
Sound like a woman after your own heart there prawnie?
--
*Hemidactylus*
*Hemidactylus*
Apr 24, 2012, 11:48:54 PM4/24/12
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--
*Hemidactylus*
timoth...@gmail.com
Apr 24, 2012, 11:57:06 PM4/24/12
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(I'll pray for you, but only if your sins are white-collar ones)
Richard Norman
Apr 25, 2012, 12:04:03 AM4/25/12
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emotionally-insecure status whore poseur afford one? But I do drive
one in my dreams. Wait, wasn't that a BMW?
chris thompson
Apr 25, 2012, 12:08:09 AM4/25/12
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Chris
prawnster
Apr 25, 2012, 12:25:44 AM4/25/12
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On Apr 24, 8:45�pm, *Hemidactylus* <ecpho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
> "Anyone over 30 years of age today, give a silent �Thank you� to the
Alyssa Rosenbaum, at least in one regard.
> [...]
> "Anyone over 30 years of age today, give a silent �Thank you� to the
> nearest, grimiest, sootiest smokestacks you can find."- Ayn Rand
>
> http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/ecology-environmental_movement.html
>
> Sound like a woman after your own heart there prawnie?
>
Thanks for the link, Hemster. I never knew I agreed so much with
>
> http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/ecology-environmental_movement.html
>
> Sound like a woman after your own heart there prawnie?
>
Alyssa Rosenbaum, at least in one regard.
Rolf
Apr 25, 2012, 3:01:48 AM4/25/12
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nick_keigh...@hotmail.com
Apr 25, 2012, 3:34:00 AM4/25/12
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On Wednesday, April 25, 2012 1:34:48 AM UTC+1, prawnster wrote:
> I meet a lot of libs in my day-to-day doings.
I'm guessing you're American where "liberal" has a different meaning from where I come from (the UK)
> I meet a lot of libs in my day-to-day doings.
To me liberal simply means human freedom of belief and economically. The American constitution, for instance, is a very liberal document. Basic human rights are important and I believe neither state capitalism not laissez faire capitalism are completly workable systems.
> And every last one of them is a status whore. They name-drop. They
> are concerned with how much money people have or make.
I'm sure such liberals exist, but I'm not one and and I don't know many people whom I'd describe as liberals who are. I don't think it's a typical attribute.
(NALA= "Not A Liberal Attribute, per se")
> And of course they all believe in Darwinism, have no religion,
> and yet
> claim to be "spiritual," whatever that means.
> Also, they hold all the expected beliefs: America sucks;
> the War on
> Bad Weather is the Most Important Thing Ever;
> Europe is where it's at;
> veganism is the way to go;
> Is my experience unusual or are libs, without exception, a bunch of
> emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
Arkalen
Apr 25, 2012, 6:12:52 AM4/25/12
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On 25/04/12 01:34, prawnster wrote:
> I meet a lot of libs in my day-to-day doings. And every last one of
> Bad Weather is the Most Important Thing Ever; Europe is where it's at;
> veganism is the way to go; blah blah blah.
how you interact with reality I'd say you're either straight-up lying,
or you're a victim of massive confirmation bias. You interpret every
single opinion of attitude you disapprove of as "status whoring", and
you then observe that everybody who disagrees with you or behaves in a
way you disapprove of is a status whore. This says more about you than
about the world you observe, or about status whores.
> I meet a lot of libs in my day-to-day doings. And every last one of
> them is a status whore. They name-drop. They are concerned with how
> much money people have or make. They're obsessed with brand names or
> talking about living in desirable ZIP codes or particularly posh
> neighborhoods. They will actually tell you how much they paid for a
> house, just so's you know how wealthy they are. And worst of all,
> they'll ask questions about you just so they can rank you in their
> social hierarchy and know whether they should have contempt for you or
> have a gnawing, bitter feeling of jealousy toward you.
>
> And of course they all believe in Darwinism, have no religion, and yet
> talking about living in desirable ZIP codes or particularly posh
> neighborhoods. They will actually tell you how much they paid for a
> house, just so's you know how wealthy they are. And worst of all,
> they'll ask questions about you just so they can rank you in their
> social hierarchy and know whether they should have contempt for you or
> have a gnawing, bitter feeling of jealousy toward you.
>
> claim to be "spiritual," whatever that means.
>
> Also, they hold all the expected beliefs: America sucks; the War on
>
> Bad Weather is the Most Important Thing Ever; Europe is where it's at;
> veganism is the way to go; blah blah blah.
>
> Is my experience unusual or are libs, without exception, a bunch of
> emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
>
Neither, because that is not your experience. Given what we've seen of
> Is my experience unusual or are libs, without exception, a bunch of
> emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
>
how you interact with reality I'd say you're either straight-up lying,
or you're a victim of massive confirmation bias. You interpret every
single opinion of attitude you disapprove of as "status whoring", and
you then observe that everybody who disagrees with you or behaves in a
way you disapprove of is a status whore. This says more about you than
about the world you observe, or about status whores.
Arkalen
Apr 25, 2012, 6:15:56 AM4/25/12
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US ? This post clearly shows they at least live in North America. Other
places don't have the same relationship to Europe as this post displays.
Mitchell Coffey
Apr 25, 2012, 9:37:24 AM4/25/12
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On Apr 24, 8:34 pm, prawnster <zweibro...@ymail.com> wrote:
> I meet a lot of libs in my day-to-day doings. And every last one of
> them is a status whore. They name-drop. They are concerned with how
> much money people have or make. They're obsessed with brand names or
> talking about living in desirable ZIP codes or particularly posh
> neighborhoods. They will actually tell you how much they paid for a
> house, just so's you know how wealthy they are. And worst of all,
> they'll ask questions about you just so they can rank you in their
> social hierarchy and know whether they should have contempt for you or
> have a gnawing, bitter feeling of jealousy toward you.
>
> And of course they all believe in Darwinism, have no religion, and yet
> claim to be "spiritual," whatever that means.
>
> Also, they hold all the expected beliefs: America sucks; the War on
> Bad Weather is the Most Important Thing Ever; Europe is where it's at;
> veganism is the way to go; blah blah blah.
>
> Is my experience unusual or are libs, without exception, a bunch of
> emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
My experience is that consertatives are just bitter we were able to
> I meet a lot of libs in my day-to-day doings. And every last one of
> them is a status whore. They name-drop. They are concerned with how
> much money people have or make. They're obsessed with brand names or
> talking about living in desirable ZIP codes or particularly posh
> neighborhoods. They will actually tell you how much they paid for a
> house, just so's you know how wealthy they are. And worst of all,
> they'll ask questions about you just so they can rank you in their
> social hierarchy and know whether they should have contempt for you or
> have a gnawing, bitter feeling of jealousy toward you.
>
> And of course they all believe in Darwinism, have no religion, and yet
> claim to be "spiritual," whatever that means.
>
> Also, they hold all the expected beliefs: America sucks; the War on
> Bad Weather is the Most Important Thing Ever; Europe is where it's at;
> veganism is the way to go; blah blah blah.
>
> Is my experience unusual or are libs, without exception, a bunch of
> emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
get into better universities than they.
Mitchell Coffey
prawnster
Apr 25, 2012, 10:11:10 AM4/25/12
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> [...]
borderline personality disorder is incorrect. I will not provide
examples to disprove your diagnosis.
> > Is my experience unusual or are libs, without exception, a bunch of
> > emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
>
> Neither, because that is not your experience. Given what we've seen of
> how you interact with reality I'd say you're either straight-up lying,
> or you're a victim of massive confirmation bias. You interpret every
> single opinion of attitude you disapprove of as "status whoring", and
> you then observe that everybody who disagrees with you or behaves in a
> way you disapprove of is a status whore. This says more about you than
> about the world you observe, or about status whores.
>
I have faithfully related my life experience, and your diagnosis of
> > emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
>
> Neither, because that is not your experience. Given what we've seen of
> how you interact with reality I'd say you're either straight-up lying,
> or you're a victim of massive confirmation bias. You interpret every
> single opinion of attitude you disapprove of as "status whoring", and
> you then observe that everybody who disagrees with you or behaves in a
> way you disapprove of is a status whore. This says more about you than
> about the world you observe, or about status whores.
>
borderline personality disorder is incorrect. I will not provide
examples to disprove your diagnosis.
Mitchell Coffey
Apr 25, 2012, 10:17:04 AM4/25/12
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On Apr 24, 8:47 pm, UC <uraniumcommit...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 24, 8:41 pm, John Harshman <jharsh...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 24, 8:41 pm, John Harshman <jharsh...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > prawnster wrote:
> > > I meet a lot of libs in my day-to-day doings. And every last one of
> > > them is a status whore. They name-drop. They are concerned with how
> > > much money people have or make. They're obsessed with brand names or
> > > talking about living in desirable ZIP codes or particularly posh
> > > neighborhoods. They will actually tell you how much they paid for a
> > > house, just so's you know how wealthy they are. And worst of all,
> > > they'll ask questions about you just so they can rank you in their
> > > social hierarchy and know whether they should have contempt for you or
> > > have a gnawing, bitter feeling of jealousy toward you.
>
> > > I meet a lot of libs in my day-to-day doings. And every last one of
> > > them is a status whore. They name-drop. They are concerned with how
> > > much money people have or make. They're obsessed with brand names or
> > > talking about living in desirable ZIP codes or particularly posh
> > > neighborhoods. They will actually tell you how much they paid for a
> > > house, just so's you know how wealthy they are. And worst of all,
> > > they'll ask questions about you just so they can rank you in their
> > > social hierarchy and know whether they should have contempt for you or
> > > have a gnawing, bitter feeling of jealousy toward you.
>
> > Hey, I don't have to know your social status to know I should have
> > contempt for you.
>
> > > And of course they all believe in Darwinism, have no religion, and yet
> > > claim to be "spiritual," whatever that means.
>
> > > Also, they hold all the expected beliefs: America sucks; the War on
> > > Bad Weather is the Most Important Thing Ever; Europe is where it's at;
> > > veganism is the way to go; blah blah blah.
>
> > > And of course they all believe in Darwinism, have no religion, and yet
> > > claim to be "spiritual," whatever that means.
>
> > > Also, they hold all the expected beliefs: America sucks; the War on
> > > Bad Weather is the Most Important Thing Ever; Europe is where it's at;
> > > veganism is the way to go; blah blah blah.
>
> > > Is my experience unusual or are libs, without exception, a bunch of
> > > emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
>
> > > emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
>
> > Your experience is not only unusual; it's hallucinatory.
>
> It's true, I find libs to be breathtakingly, mind-numbingingly, stupid.
We went through this once, which just demonstrated that what you
>
> It's true, I find libs to be breathtakingly, mind-numbingingly, stupid.
couldn't get your facts straight, and you were just jealous because
other people were able to get into better colleges than you.
Mitchell Coffey
prawnster
Apr 25, 2012, 10:19:09 AM4/25/12
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On Apr 25, 6:37 am, Mitchell Coffey <mitchell.cof...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 24, 8:34 pm, prawnster <zweibro...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
> On Apr 24, 8:34 pm, prawnster <zweibro...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> > Is my experience unusual or are libs, without exception, a bunch of
> > emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
>
> My experience is that consertatives are just bitter we were able to
> get into better universities than they.
>
That is a typical response from someone obsessed with status
> > emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
>
> My experience is that consertatives are just bitter we were able to
> get into better universities than they.
>
hierarchies and it demonstrates that you suffer from narcissism.
Unfortunately, narcissism does not appear to be curable. Enjoy having
contempt for those you place lower than yourself in your status
hierarchy and also enjoy the gnawing, corrosive jealousy of those you
deem above you in your status hierarchy (because you know they don't
deserve it; only you belong in the highest seat, right?). It's very
dissatisfying to be a narcissist, isn't it? In fact, Lucifer is a
raging narcissist, jealous of God's awesome creative powers, and look
what he created.
alextangent
Apr 25, 2012, 11:18:32 AM4/25/12
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Gemini Jackson
Apr 25, 2012, 11:36:43 AM4/25/12
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 07:19:09 -0700 (PDT), prawnster
<zweib...@ymail.com> wrote:
> In fact, Lucifer is a
>raging narcissist, jealous of God's awesome creative powers, and look
>what he created.
Time to grow up and leave the fairy tale world.
<zweib...@ymail.com> wrote:
> In fact, Lucifer is a
>raging narcissist, jealous of God's awesome creative powers, and look
>what he created.
-gj
Mitchell Coffey
Apr 25, 2012, 11:37:26 AM4/25/12
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Mitchell Coffey
Mitchell Coffey
Apr 25, 2012, 11:45:46 AM4/25/12
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the near-impossibility of getting borderline personalies to recognize
their problem. Furthermore, third parties are reluctant to show
sympathy and assist the healing because borderline personalies are
such pricks. In short: you need help for your BPD, but wont try to get
it; and no one will *want* to help you because you're such a prick.
I'd feel your pain, if you weren't such a - well, you know.
Mitchell Coffey
Arkalen
Apr 25, 2012, 12:05:20 PM4/25/12
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pretty hilarious accusation given your own diagnosis of Mitchell Coffey.
There's a name for that... and no, "projection" isn't a personality
disorder either that I know of.
Inez
Apr 25, 2012, 12:19:08 PM4/25/12
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America is roughly divided by thirds into liberals/centrists/
conservatives, and one third of America is not as you describe
liberals to be. I've met very few people like the ones you describe
of any political ideology. I suggest you get over your need for
tribalism, it's unnecessary and immature.
Mitchell Coffey
Apr 25, 2012, 12:32:54 PM4/25/12
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slip.
Mitchell Coffey
Mitchell Coffey
Apr 25, 2012, 12:37:05 PM4/25/12
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On Apr 25, 12:25 am, prawnster <zweibro...@ymail.com> wrote:
> > "Anyone over 30 years of age today, give a silent Thank you to the
borderline of you...
Mitchell Coffey
> > "Anyone over 30 years of age today, give a silent Thank you to the
> > nearest, grimiest, sootiest smokestacks you can find."- Ayn Rand
>
> >http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/ecology-environmental_movement.html
>
> > Sound like a woman after your own heart there prawnie?
>
> Thanks for the link, Hemster. I never knew I agreed so much with
> Alyssa Rosenbaum, at least in one regard.
You have a need to dwell on her Jewishness, I see. Mmmm. How very
>
> >http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/ecology-environmental_movement.html
>
> > Sound like a woman after your own heart there prawnie?
>
> Thanks for the link, Hemster. I never knew I agreed so much with
> Alyssa Rosenbaum, at least in one regard.
borderline of you...
Mitchell Coffey
chris thompson
Apr 25, 2012, 12:46:40 PM4/25/12
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On Apr 25, 11:45 am, Mitchell Coffey <mitchell.cof...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Be careful here. I do have some experience (not me, but a loved one)
with personality disorders. I don't think prawnster has any kind of
personality disorder.
I think he's a perfectly healthy idiot.
Chris
wrote:
with personality disorders. I don't think prawnster has any kind of
personality disorder.
I think he's a perfectly healthy idiot.
Chris
johnetho...@yahoo.com
Apr 25, 2012, 1:02:00 PM4/25/12
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On Apr 24, 5:34 pm, prawnster <zweibro...@ymail.com> wrote:
> I meet a lot of libs in my day-to-day doings. And every last one of
> them is a status whore. They name-drop. They are concerned with how
> much money people have or make. They're obsessed with brand names or
> talking about living in desirable ZIP codes or particularly posh
> neighborhoods. They will actually tell you how much they paid for a
> house, just so's you know how wealthy they are. And worst of all,
> they'll ask questions about you just so they can rank you in their
> social hierarchy and know whether they should have contempt for you or
> have a gnawing, bitter feeling of jealousy toward you.
>
> I meet a lot of libs in my day-to-day doings. And every last one of
> them is a status whore. They name-drop. They are concerned with how
> much money people have or make. They're obsessed with brand names or
> talking about living in desirable ZIP codes or particularly posh
> neighborhoods. They will actually tell you how much they paid for a
> house, just so's you know how wealthy they are. And worst of all,
> they'll ask questions about you just so they can rank you in their
> social hierarchy and know whether they should have contempt for you or
> have a gnawing, bitter feeling of jealousy toward you.
>
> And of course they all believe in Darwinism, have no religion, and yet
> claim to be "spiritual," whatever that means.
>
> Also, they hold all the expected beliefs: America sucks; the War on
> Bad Weather is the Most Important Thing Ever; Europe is where it's at;
> veganism is the way to go; blah blah blah.
>
> claim to be "spiritual," whatever that means.
>
> Also, they hold all the expected beliefs: America sucks; the War on
> Bad Weather is the Most Important Thing Ever; Europe is where it's at;
> veganism is the way to go; blah blah blah.
>
> Is my experience unusual or are libs, without exception, a bunch of
> emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
Your experience is extremely unusual (or you are lying). . In my
> emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
experience such behavior correlates strongly with general immaturity,
but not at all with political views. Maybe you just don't meet any
normal people
Syamsu
Apr 25, 2012, 1:37:37 PM4/25/12
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On Apr 25, 5:45 pm, Mitchell Coffey <mitchell.cof...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The central problem with treating borderline personality disorder is
> the near-impossibility of getting borderline personalies to recognize
> their problem. Furthermore, third parties are reluctant to show
> sympathy and assist the healing because borderline personalies are
> such pricks. In short: you need help for your BPD, but wont try to get
> it; and no one will *want* to help you because you're such a prick.
> I'd feel your pain, if you weren't such a - well, you know.
Analyzing people to have a mental disease is what social darwinists do
> The central problem with treating borderline personality disorder is
> the near-impossibility of getting borderline personalies to recognize
> their problem. Furthermore, third parties are reluctant to show
> sympathy and assist the healing because borderline personalies are
> such pricks. In short: you need help for your BPD, but wont try to get
> it; and no one will *want* to help you because you're such a prick.
> I'd feel your pain, if you weren't such a - well, you know.
before killing them.
alyc...@btinternet.com
Apr 25, 2012, 5:18:00 PM4/25/12
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alyc...@btinternet.com
Apr 25, 2012, 5:20:02 PM4/25/12
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On Wednesday, April 25, 2012 1:34:48 AM UTC+1, prawnster wrote:
> I meet a lot of libs in my day-to-day doings. And every last one of
> them is a status whore. They name-drop. They are concerned with how
> much money people have or make. They're obsessed with brand names or
> talking about living in desirable ZIP codes or particularly posh
> neighborhoods. They will actually tell you how much they paid for a
> house, just so's you know how wealthy they are. And worst of all,
> they'll ask questions about you just so they can rank you in their
> social hierarchy and know whether they should have contempt for you or
> have a gnawing, bitter feeling of jealousy toward you.
>
> And of course they all believe in Darwinism, have no religion, and yet
> claim to be "spiritual," whatever that means.
>
> Also, they hold all the expected beliefs: America sucks; the War on
> Bad Weather is the Most Important Thing Ever; Europe is where it's at;
> veganism is the way to go; blah blah blah.
>
> Is my experience unusual or are libs, without exception, a bunch of
> emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
Dang, you got me. Apart from the spirituality and the veganism. Does this mean I have to send the Rolls-Royce back?
> I meet a lot of libs in my day-to-day doings. And every last one of
> them is a status whore. They name-drop. They are concerned with how
> much money people have or make. They're obsessed with brand names or
> talking about living in desirable ZIP codes or particularly posh
> neighborhoods. They will actually tell you how much they paid for a
> house, just so's you know how wealthy they are. And worst of all,
> they'll ask questions about you just so they can rank you in their
> social hierarchy and know whether they should have contempt for you or
> have a gnawing, bitter feeling of jealousy toward you.
>
> And of course they all believe in Darwinism, have no religion, and yet
> claim to be "spiritual," whatever that means.
>
> Also, they hold all the expected beliefs: America sucks; the War on
> Bad Weather is the Most Important Thing Ever; Europe is where it's at;
> veganism is the way to go; blah blah blah.
>
> Is my experience unusual or are libs, without exception, a bunch of
> emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
Kleuskes & Moos
Apr 25, 2012, 5:31:46 PM4/25/12
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On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 19:36:07 -0700, prawnster wrote:
> On Apr 24, 7:14 pm, *Hemidactylus* <ecpho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 04/24/2012 09:17 PM, Richard Norman wrote: [...]
> about himself.
Get your irony-meter fixed.
>I know a lib who is a pure status whore,
Blah, blah, blah...
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> On Apr 24, 7:14 pm, *Hemidactylus* <ecpho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 04/24/2012 09:17 PM, Richard Norman wrote: [...]
>> > Damn! I thought I was able to hide all that much better. OK, I am
>> > an emotionally-insecure status whore poseur, but I think I am a
>> > pretty good emotionally-insecure status whore poseur.
>>
>> Do you own a Lexus?
>>
>>
> First, it's good that Mr. Norman is able to admit unappealing things
>> > an emotionally-insecure status whore poseur, but I think I am a
>> > pretty good emotionally-insecure status whore poseur.
>>
>> Do you own a Lexus?
>>
>>
> about himself.
Get your irony-meter fixed.
>I know a lib who is a pure status whore,
Blah, blah, blah...
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Inez
Apr 25, 2012, 5:34:52 PM4/25/12
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Frank J
Apr 25, 2012, 5:40:33 PM4/25/12
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On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 8:34:48 PM UTC-4, prawnster wrote:
> I meet a lot of libs in my day-to-day doings. And every last one of
> them is a status whore. They name-drop. They are concerned with how
> much money people have or make. They're obsessed with brand names or
> talking about living in desirable ZIP codes or particularly posh
> neighborhoods. They will actually tell you how much they paid for a
> house, just so's you know how wealthy they are. And worst of all,
> they'll ask questions about you just so they can rank you in their
> social hierarchy and know whether they should have contempt for you or
> have a gnawing, bitter feeling of jealousy toward you.
>
> And of course they all believe in Darwinism,
Which means they probably don't *accept* *evolution*. Neither do the bedwetters who want to *liberalize* public education to include their pseudoscience, even though it has not *earned* the right to be taught along side science.
> I meet a lot of libs in my day-to-day doings. And every last one of
> them is a status whore. They name-drop. They are concerned with how
> much money people have or make. They're obsessed with brand names or
> talking about living in desirable ZIP codes or particularly posh
> neighborhoods. They will actually tell you how much they paid for a
> house, just so's you know how wealthy they are. And worst of all,
> they'll ask questions about you just so they can rank you in their
> social hierarchy and know whether they should have contempt for you or
> have a gnawing, bitter feeling of jealousy toward you.
>
> And of course they all believe in Darwinism,
> have no religion, and yet
> claim to be "spiritual," whatever that means.
>
> Also, they hold all the expected beliefs: America sucks; the War on
> Bad Weather is the Most Important Thing Ever; Europe is where it's at;
> veganism is the way to go; blah blah blah.
>
> Is my experience unusual or are libs, without exception, a bunch of
> emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
Earle Jones
Apr 25, 2012, 6:35:46 PM4/25/12
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In article
<891f0f28-70bf-4fee...@t2g2000pbg.googlegroups.com>,
You're right, Shrimpster!
We are all whoring poseurs, name dropping all over the place.
In fact, when I was dating Einstein's daughter, that is exactly what she
told me. We usually conversed in Aramaic or Assyro-Hittite, since the
stupid American/English language is so limiting.
Then we went off to Paris to find some culture, somewhere, anywhere to
get away from the redneck mentality of "USA Shima", as my friend John
Steinbeck used to say to Any Warhol, when they played poker in my
kitchen.
But little Miss Einstein dropped me like a turd in a punchbowl, because
as she said, I was always "whoring around like a poseur."
Later, much later, when Dave Brubeck played "Take Five" at my fifth
wedding (he was such a jokester!) Marilyn was out of her gourd and had
to be carried out!
Oh those were the days!
Solo se vive unavez!
earle
(close friend of four past presidents.)
*
<891f0f28-70bf-4fee...@t2g2000pbg.googlegroups.com>,
prawnster <zweib...@ymail.com> wrote:
> I meet a lot of libs in my day-to-day doings. And every last one of
> them is a status whore. They name-drop. They are concerned with how
> much money people have or make. They're obsessed with brand names or
> talking about living in desirable ZIP codes or particularly posh
> neighborhoods. They will actually tell you how much they paid for a
> house, just so's you know how wealthy they are. And worst of all,
> they'll ask questions about you just so they can rank you in their
> social hierarchy and know whether they should have contempt for you or
> have a gnawing, bitter feeling of jealousy toward you.
>
> And of course they all believe in Darwinism, have no religion, and yet
> I meet a lot of libs in my day-to-day doings. And every last one of
> them is a status whore. They name-drop. They are concerned with how
> much money people have or make. They're obsessed with brand names or
> talking about living in desirable ZIP codes or particularly posh
> neighborhoods. They will actually tell you how much they paid for a
> house, just so's you know how wealthy they are. And worst of all,
> they'll ask questions about you just so they can rank you in their
> social hierarchy and know whether they should have contempt for you or
> have a gnawing, bitter feeling of jealousy toward you.
>
> claim to be "spiritual," whatever that means.
>
> Also, they hold all the expected beliefs: America sucks; the War on
> Bad Weather is the Most Important Thing Ever; Europe is where it's at;
> veganism is the way to go; blah blah blah.
>
> Is my experience unusual or are libs, without exception, a bunch of
> emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
*
>
> Also, they hold all the expected beliefs: America sucks; the War on
> Bad Weather is the Most Important Thing Ever; Europe is where it's at;
> veganism is the way to go; blah blah blah.
>
> Is my experience unusual or are libs, without exception, a bunch of
> emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
You're right, Shrimpster!
We are all whoring poseurs, name dropping all over the place.
In fact, when I was dating Einstein's daughter, that is exactly what she
told me. We usually conversed in Aramaic or Assyro-Hittite, since the
stupid American/English language is so limiting.
Then we went off to Paris to find some culture, somewhere, anywhere to
get away from the redneck mentality of "USA Shima", as my friend John
Steinbeck used to say to Any Warhol, when they played poker in my
kitchen.
But little Miss Einstein dropped me like a turd in a punchbowl, because
as she said, I was always "whoring around like a poseur."
Later, much later, when Dave Brubeck played "Take Five" at my fifth
wedding (he was such a jokester!) Marilyn was out of her gourd and had
to be carried out!
Oh those were the days!
Solo se vive unavez!
earle
(close friend of four past presidents.)
*
Steven L.
Apr 25, 2012, 8:03:19 PM4/25/12
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"prawnster" <zweib...@ymail.com> wrote in message
news:891f0f28-70bf-4fee...@t2g2000pbg.googlegroups.com:
> I meet a lot of libs in my day-to-day doings. And every last one of
> them is a status whore. They name-drop. They are concerned with how
> much money people have or make. They're obsessed with brand names or
> talking about living in desirable ZIP codes or particularly posh
> neighborhoods. They will actually tell you how much they paid for a
> house, just so's you know how wealthy they are. And worst of all,
> they'll ask questions about you just so they can rank you in their
> social hierarchy and know whether they should have contempt for you or
> have a gnawing, bitter feeling of jealousy toward you.
>
> And of course they all believe in Darwinism, have no religion, and yet
> claim to be "spiritual," whatever that means.
>
> Also, they hold all the expected beliefs: America sucks; the War on
> Bad Weather is the Most Important Thing Ever; Europe is where it's at;
> veganism is the way to go; blah blah blah.
>
> Is my experience unusual or are libs, without exception, a bunch of
> emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
is the most important thing in their world; and those for whom it isn't
or who don't even care that much about politics.
I've had some good friends of the latter type, those who really don't
care about politics. In fact, I've had friends who were further left
than that, who voted for Ralph Nader for President.
But that's because except for our political beliefs, we're all pretty
much the same: We have similar professions and we enjoy similar
avocations, and we enjoy each other's company.
It's the left-wing political junkies who are absolutely impossible to
get along with. They are smugly self-righteous to the point of being
absolutely insufferable.
So don't generalize. And try to find some liberals who aren't affluent
and who aren't flaunting their affluence.
-- Steven L.
William Morse
Apr 25, 2012, 11:08:43 PM4/25/12
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On 04/24/2012 08:34 PM, prawnster wrote:
> I meet a lot of libs in my day-to-day doings. And every last one of
> them is a status whore. They name-drop. They are concerned with how
> much money people have or make. They're obsessed with brand names or
> talking about living in desirable ZIP codes or particularly posh
> neighborhoods. They will actually tell you how much they paid for a
> house, just so's you know how wealthy they are. And worst of all,
> they'll ask questions about you just so they can rank you in their
> social hierarchy and know whether they should have contempt for you or
> have a gnawing, bitter feeling of jealousy toward you.
>
> And of course they all believe in Darwinism, have no religion, and yet
> claim to be "spiritual," whatever that means.
>
> Also, they hold all the expected beliefs: America sucks; the War on
> Bad Weather is the Most Important Thing Ever; Europe is where it's at;
> veganism is the way to go; blah blah blah.
>
> Is my experience unusual or are libs, without exception, a bunch of
> emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
>
The only problem with your statement is that you need to substitute
> them is a status whore. They name-drop. They are concerned with how
> much money people have or make. They're obsessed with brand names or
> talking about living in desirable ZIP codes or particularly posh
> neighborhoods. They will actually tell you how much they paid for a
> house, just so's you know how wealthy they are. And worst of all,
> they'll ask questions about you just so they can rank you in their
> social hierarchy and know whether they should have contempt for you or
> have a gnawing, bitter feeling of jealousy toward you.
>
> And of course they all believe in Darwinism, have no religion, and yet
> claim to be "spiritual," whatever that means.
>
> Also, they hold all the expected beliefs: America sucks; the War on
> Bad Weather is the Most Important Thing Ever; Europe is where it's at;
> veganism is the way to go; blah blah blah.
>
> Is my experience unusual or are libs, without exception, a bunch of
> emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
>
"people" for "libs". All conservatives and moderates also meet your
description. And to understand why that is true, you should read Robert
Wright's "The Moral Animal". He explains this behavior based on
evolution. Now if you don't believe in evolution, then either you don't
believe in causation, you don't believe in heritable variation (i.e.
DNA), or you don't believe that there is excess reproduction. Because if
you accept all these, then evolution is inevitable.
*Hemidactylus*
Apr 25, 2012, 11:23:49 PM4/25/12
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--
*Hemidactylus*
*Hemidactylus*
Apr 25, 2012, 11:29:22 PM4/25/12
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to become more acquainted with the 21st century before you open your mouth.
But I understand you have no control over your behavior as the causes
are prior to the cognitive illusion of "you". The sooner you come to
grips with the absence of volition in yourself (your behavior is
predictable to the extent of the overt tropes you exhibit) the better
off you will be and the better off this NG will be.
--
*Hemidactylus*
*Hemidactylus*
Apr 25, 2012, 11:33:45 PM4/25/12
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effectively a bunch of wimps caught in the middle of a spectrum of
morons. And they probably don't care enough to realize that. Am I
projecting? Perhaps.
--
*Hemidactylus*
jillery
Apr 26, 2012, 12:51:26 AM4/26/12
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prawnster
Apr 26, 2012, 2:06:07 AM4/26/12
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On Apr 25, 12:34 am, nick_keighley_nos...@hotmail.com wrote:
> [...]
> I'm guessing you're American where "liberal" has a different meaning from where I come from (the UK)
>
> To me liberal simply means human freedom of belief and economically. The American constitution, for instance, is a very liberal document. Basic human rights are important and I believe neither state capitalism not laissez faire capitalism are completly workable systems.
>
You're describing classical liberalism. Modern liberalism is a
Puritanical fascism where its adherents try to control the thoughts,
speech, and actions of others, are intolerant of people who think
differently from them, and attempt to destroy the lives of those who
dare voice ideas that differ from theirs. It is the absolute
antithesis of classical liberalism.
And no system created by man works; only a kingdom ruled by a
perfectly wise and just king populated by perfectly obedient subjects
is "completely workable." And no matter how strongly narcissistic
status-whoring Marxists believe they can fulfill the role of the wise
and just king, if only we'd put them in charge, that kingdom will
never come to pass on Earth, regardless of how supersmart Marxists
think they are.
> [...]
> I'm guessing you're American where "liberal" has a different meaning from where I come from (the UK)
>
> To me liberal simply means human freedom of belief and economically. The American constitution, for instance, is a very liberal document. Basic human rights are important and I believe neither state capitalism not laissez faire capitalism are completly workable systems.
>
You're describing classical liberalism. Modern liberalism is a
Puritanical fascism where its adherents try to control the thoughts,
speech, and actions of others, are intolerant of people who think
differently from them, and attempt to destroy the lives of those who
dare voice ideas that differ from theirs. It is the absolute
antithesis of classical liberalism.
And no system created by man works; only a kingdom ruled by a
perfectly wise and just king populated by perfectly obedient subjects
is "completely workable." And no matter how strongly narcissistic
status-whoring Marxists believe they can fulfill the role of the wise
and just king, if only we'd put them in charge, that kingdom will
never come to pass on Earth, regardless of how supersmart Marxists
think they are.
prawnster
Apr 26, 2012, 2:11:15 AM4/26/12
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On Apr 25, 8:37 am, Mitchell Coffey <mitchell.cof...@gmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
> Jealous, aren't you?
>
A preening, insecure status whore, aren't you?
> [...]
> Jealous, aren't you?
>
A preening, insecure status whore, aren't you?
Mitchell Coffey
Apr 26, 2012, 9:43:12 AM4/26/12
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things; he most likely doesn't belive a word he writes; you may well
be the only one who thinks this is a serious thread.
Your remarks are in poor taste, given how lately you've been making
numerous, nonfactual claims that large numbers of people were mentally
ill, and that you've advocated the mass-murder of "Darwinists" in
concentration camps, and wrote words to the effect that Hitler had it
right, he just murdered the wrong Jews. On the other hand, you have a
private definitions of "social-darwinism," vastly different from how
the term is used in dictionaries and any common speach. It's possible
you mean something above completely different from what your claim
means in English.
Mitchell Coffey
Mitchell Coffey
Apr 26, 2012, 9:50:26 AM4/26/12
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response to your nonsense: if I were to say I wasn’t feeling well, and
describe the standard symptoms of the common cold, you'd claim this as
evidence of me being a "preening, insecure status whore." You boorish
reiterations can be dismissed as such.
Mitchell Coffey
Mitchell Coffey
Apr 26, 2012, 10:01:21 AM4/26/12
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On Apr 25, 12:46 pm, chris thompson <chris.linthomp...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Sure, but in the alternative universe called "Prawnsterland" (accessed
through a spacetime portal located under a bridge) all claims are
equally true. Besides, *he's* the one who brought up his putative
borderline personality disorder.
Mitchell
wrote:
through a spacetime portal located under a bridge) all claims are
equally true. Besides, *he's* the one who brought up his putative
borderline personality disorder.
Mitchell
Syamsu
Apr 26, 2012, 10:16:01 AM4/26/12
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conclusion, denying the legitemacy of subjective opinion in respect to
agency. To deny subjective opinion makes you all quite nuts, like the
people on the bigbang theory television show.
Inez
Apr 26, 2012, 11:10:09 AM4/26/12
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On Apr 25, 5:03 pm, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> "prawnster" <zweibro...@ymail.com> wrote in message
I suspect that this is an affect of you strongly disagreeing with them
rather than a special property of these liberals. Political
conservatives seem this way to me, but I suspect they wouldn't bother
you at all.
> "prawnster" <zweibro...@ymail.com> wrote in message
rather than a special property of these liberals. Political
conservatives seem this way to me, but I suspect they wouldn't bother
you at all.
Arkalen
Apr 26, 2012, 12:06:30 PM4/26/12
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Anya mentioned it in Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Will in New Haven
Apr 26, 2012, 1:18:17 PM4/26/12
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political disagreement that does that. This _thread_ annoys the hell
out of me because Prawnster, and virtually everyone who responds to
him tacitly agrees, conflates political liberalism (using the word in
its modern U.S. meeaning) with an acceptance of the scientific
evidence. I'm off the right edge of the earth on most issues and I
think it is obvious that evolution has occured, is continuing to occur
and will occur in the future. I don't even see any conflict there.
--
Will in New Haven
Kermit
Apr 26, 2012, 2:50:37 PM4/26/12
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On Apr 24, 5:34 pm, prawnster <zweibro...@ymail.com> wrote:
> I meet a lot of libs in my day-to-day doings. And every last one of
> them is a status whore. They name-drop. They are concerned with how
> much money people have or make. They're obsessed with brand names or
> talking about living in desirable ZIP codes or particularly posh
> neighborhoods. They will actually tell you how much they paid for a
> house, just so's you know how wealthy they are. And worst of all,
> they'll ask questions about you just so they can rank you in their
> social hierarchy and know whether they should have contempt for you or
> have a gnawing, bitter feeling of jealousy toward you.
>
> And of course they all believe in Darwinism, have no religion, and yet
> claim to be "spiritual," whatever that means.
>
> Also, they hold all the expected beliefs: America sucks; the War on
> Bad Weather is the Most Important Thing Ever; Europe is where it's at;
> veganism is the way to go; blah blah blah.
>
> Is my experience unusual or are libs, without exception, a bunch of
> emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
Nasrudin was sitting in the shade of a tree outside of a small city
> them is a status whore. They name-drop. They are concerned with how
> much money people have or make. They're obsessed with brand names or
> talking about living in desirable ZIP codes or particularly posh
> neighborhoods. They will actually tell you how much they paid for a
> house, just so's you know how wealthy they are. And worst of all,
> they'll ask questions about you just so they can rank you in their
> social hierarchy and know whether they should have contempt for you or
> have a gnawing, bitter feeling of jealousy toward you.
>
> And of course they all believe in Darwinism, have no religion, and yet
> claim to be "spiritual," whatever that means.
>
> Also, they hold all the expected beliefs: America sucks; the War on
> Bad Weather is the Most Important Thing Ever; Europe is where it's at;
> veganism is the way to go; blah blah blah.
>
> Is my experience unusual or are libs, without exception, a bunch of
> emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
with some friends. A stranger walked up the road and said "Please sir,
can you tell me what the people are like in this city?"
Nsarudin responded with a a question of his own - "What are the people
like where you come from?"
"Oh, they are most pleasant - generous and kind."
"Ah," replied Nasrudin, "you will be most pleased to find out that
they are much like that here, also!"
"Thank you sir!" cried the stranger, and strode cheerfully into town.
Another stranger approached soon after. "What are the people like in
this town?" he demanded to know.
Nasrudin responded "What are the people like where you come from?"
"Jerks, all of them! Idiots, egotistical, no-nothings!"
"Oh dear," said Nasrudin, shaking his head sadly. "That pretty much
describes these citizens all too well."
"Hmph!" muttered the stranger, and took the path leading around the
city walls.
"Nasrudin!" cried one of his friends. "You just characterized the same
people in two different way in as many minutes! What kind of joke are
you playing now?"
"No joke, old friend. People see others largely through the mirror of
their own soul; they see themselves in others. I spoke the truth to
both."
Kermit
jillery
Apr 26, 2012, 3:13:48 PM4/26/12
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are plenty of anti-science liberal loonies. But I also know that
science is associated with questioning the status quo which is
associated with political liberalism. But I also freely admit there
are lots of people who act as if asking questions, any question, is
all that's needed, without caring if their questions are valid, and
without listening to the answers. Hence the loony-left.
Please don't read anything into my confessed ambivalence other than
that.
Boikat
Apr 26, 2012, 3:18:46 PM4/26/12
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> denying the legitemacy of subjective opinion in respect to
> agency.
> To deny subjective opinion makes you all quite nuts,
like personal taste in music or food?
> like the
> people on the bigbang theory television show.
Boikat
Mitchell Coffey
Apr 26, 2012, 3:58:31 PM4/26/12
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of subjective opinion in respect to agency. The issue is the weight to
be given to subjective and objective judgement in given situations;
moral people, for instance, do not want people sent to prison when for
instance DNA evidence proves they were inocent, just because morals-
free people like you in the jury look at him and and decide they feel
he's guilty. This is one of the reasons we have the Fifth Admendment
to our Constitution, as if you could understand the point.
Maybe that's why you think people should be put in camps and murdered
jsut for disagreing with you: you just get agnry at them and think
it's OK to murder them because that's how you feel, and that's all
that counts. Moral people think rationally about things.
Mitchell Coffey
Mitchell Coffey
Apr 26, 2012, 4:02:37 PM4/26/12
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jerks, idiots, egotistical, know-nothings...
Mitchell Coffey
wiki trix
Apr 26, 2012, 4:18:31 PM4/26/12
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Behring Breivik, who killed 77 on 22 July 2011, says he chose victims
who looked "left-wing" while sparing those who looked "right-wing."
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/155046
Why would you require evidence to reach a conclusion regarding who to
kill, denying the legitemacy of subjective opinion in respect to
agency? To deny subjective opinion makes you all quite nuts, like the
people on the bigbang theory television show, rather than like the
noble Breivik. Anyone can see clearly that the people on the bigbang
theory television show are nuts, and that Breivik is not nuts.
Syamsu
Apr 26, 2012, 4:42:28 PM4/26/12
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opinion.
Syamsu
Apr 26, 2012, 4:37:02 PM4/26/12
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subjectivity in a negative way. You are a fucking nutjob. All your
life you have been giving people your nerdism. Go fuck off and die.
Mitchell Coffey
Apr 26, 2012, 5:07:05 PM4/26/12
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[chirp]
wiki trix
Apr 26, 2012, 5:05:26 PM4/26/12
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Syamsu
Apr 26, 2012, 5:26:20 PM4/26/12
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who deny the legitemacy of subjective opinion? Only the people who
deny subjetive opinion don't feel that, because it is not politically
correct they don't feel it.
*Hemidactylus*
Apr 26, 2012, 6:08:55 PM4/26/12
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Apr 26, 2012, 6:12:28 PM4/26/12
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were sitting on his special couch spot. Bazinga!
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Apr 26, 2012, 6:13:32 PM4/26/12
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*Hemidactylus*
Apr 26, 2012, 6:17:10 PM4/26/12
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Maybe you should try putting a governor on your emotions. When you hit
that accelerator you wind up causing a chain-reaction thread pileup.
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*Hemidactylus*
Apr 26, 2012, 6:45:24 PM4/26/12
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maybe Mitch got inspired and found himself a pet snapping turtle of his own.
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*Hemidactylus*
Apr 26, 2012, 7:28:22 PM4/26/12
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On 04/26/2012 02:06 AM, prawnster wrote:
> On Apr 25, 12:34 am, nick_keighley_nos...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> [...]
>> I'm guessing you're American where "liberal" has a different meaning from where I come from (the UK)
>>
>> To me liberal simply means human freedom of belief and economically. The American constitution, for instance, is a very liberal document. Basic human rights are important and I believe neither state capitalism not laissez faire capitalism are completly workable systems.
>>
>
> You're describing classical liberalism. Modern liberalism is a
> Puritanical fascism where its adherents try to control the thoughts,
> speech, and actions of others, are intolerant of people who think
> differently from them,
The uproar over gay marriage. The Moral Majority (versus the purple
> On Apr 25, 12:34 am, nick_keighley_nos...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> [...]
>> I'm guessing you're American where "liberal" has a different meaning from where I come from (the UK)
>>
>> To me liberal simply means human freedom of belief and economically. The American constitution, for instance, is a very liberal document. Basic human rights are important and I believe neither state capitalism not laissez faire capitalism are completly workable systems.
>>
>
> You're describing classical liberalism. Modern liberalism is a
> Puritanical fascism where its adherents try to control the thoughts,
> speech, and actions of others, are intolerant of people who think
> differently from them,
teletubby). Tea Party "Patriots". Glenn Beck's obsession with George Soros.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2010/11/was-glenn-beck-s-george-soros-takedown-anti-semitic/22300/
> and attempt to destroy the lives of those who
> dare voice ideas that differ from theirs.
over the Dixie Chicks (vs. "our boy" Toby Keith...yeeeehaw!!!), Nixon's
enumeration of enemies
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon%27s_Enemies_List),
> It is the absolute
> antithesis of classical liberalism.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_mar14.htm
[quote]The aftermath of Loving v. Virginia:
The laws and constitutions of some states still banned inter-racial
marriages. However the decision by the Supreme Court annulled them. The
state of South Carolina still had an anti-miscegenation law on the books
as late as 1998, although it was not applied. As of 2000-OCT, only the
state of Alabama still had a clause in its constitution prohibiting a
black person or descendent of a black person from marrying a white
person. The people of Alabama voted in the general special election of
2000-NOV-7 to delete the clause from their constitution. However the
vote was narrow. Only 60% of voters supported the repeal.
Still, racism dies hard in some states. A survey in 2011-MAR showed that
46% of Republican voters in Mississippi favor making interracial
marriages illegal in the state. Only 40% prefer keeping them legal. 11
It would be interesting to have a plebiscite in Mississippi to determine
if such marriages should be recriminalized. It might get Americans to
consider what is happening elsewhere in the country where the marriage
rights of loving, committed same-sex couples are routinely voted upon
and decided by 50% of the voters.[/quote]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Jones_University#Dropping_the_no-interracial-dating_rule_.282000.29
[quote]In 2000, following a media uproar prompted by the visit of
presidential candidate George W. Bush to the university, Bob Jones III
abruptly dropped the interracial dating rule, announcing the change on
CNN's "Larry King Live".[102] Five years later when asked for his view
of the rule change, the current president, Stephen Jones, replied, "I've
never been more proud of my dad than the night he...lifted that
policy."[103][/quote]
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Mitchell Coffey
Apr 26, 2012, 7:41:14 PM4/26/12
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about Nazis was just name calling, because in fact you are one.
Mitchell Coffey
wiki trix
Apr 26, 2012, 5:53:11 PM4/26/12
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genocidal hatred towards people who deny the legitimacy of subjective
opinion. But that's just my subjective opinion. Would you deny the
legitimacy of that subjective opinion? If so, you should murder
yourself. Just my subjective opinion.
William Morse
Apr 26, 2012, 10:38:23 PM4/26/12
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On 04/25/2012 11:33 PM, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
> On 04/25/2012 12:19 PM, Inez wrote:
>> America is roughly divided by thirds into liberals/centrists/
>> conservatives, and one third of America is not as you describe
>> liberals to be. I've met very few people like the ones you describe
>> of any political ideology. I suggest you get over your need for
>> tribalism, it's unnecessary and immature.
>>
> Centrists should get really pissed off about something, but they are
> effectively a bunch of wimps caught in the middle of a spectrum of
> morons. And they probably don't care enough to realize that. Am I
> projecting? Perhaps.
>
There is a nice poem by Rudyard Kipling that starts
"If you can keep your head while all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you"
Much of it is about being a moderate/centrist.
> On 04/25/2012 12:19 PM, Inez wrote:
>> On Apr 25, 7:11 am, prawnster<zweibro...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 25, 3:12 am, Arkalen<arka...@inbox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 25/04/12 01:34, prawnster wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>> On Apr 25, 3:12 am, Arkalen<arka...@inbox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 25/04/12 01:34, prawnster wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>>> Is my experience unusual or are libs, without exception, a bunch of
>>>>> emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
>>>
>>>>> emotionally-insecure status whore poseurs?
>>>
>>>> Neither, because that is not your experience. Given what we've seen of
>>>> how you interact with reality I'd say you're either straight-up lying,
>>>> or you're a victim of massive confirmation bias. You interpret every
>>>> single opinion of attitude you disapprove of as "status whoring", and
>>>> you then observe that everybody who disagrees with you or behaves in a
>>>> way you disapprove of is a status whore. This says more about you than
>>>> about the world you observe, or about status whores.
>>>
>>> I have faithfully related my life experience, and your diagnosis of
>>> borderline personality disorder is incorrect. I will not provide
>>> examples to disprove your diagnosis.
>>
>> Apparently you live in the fetid imaginary world of Rush Limbaugh.
>>>> how you interact with reality I'd say you're either straight-up lying,
>>>> or you're a victim of massive confirmation bias. You interpret every
>>>> single opinion of attitude you disapprove of as "status whoring", and
>>>> you then observe that everybody who disagrees with you or behaves in a
>>>> way you disapprove of is a status whore. This says more about you than
>>>> about the world you observe, or about status whores.
>>>
>>> I have faithfully related my life experience, and your diagnosis of
>>> borderline personality disorder is incorrect. I will not provide
>>> examples to disprove your diagnosis.
>>
>> America is roughly divided by thirds into liberals/centrists/
>> conservatives, and one third of America is not as you describe
>> liberals to be. I've met very few people like the ones you describe
>> of any political ideology. I suggest you get over your need for
>> tribalism, it's unnecessary and immature.
>>
> Centrists should get really pissed off about something, but they are
> effectively a bunch of wimps caught in the middle of a spectrum of
> morons. And they probably don't care enough to realize that. Am I
> projecting? Perhaps.
>
There is a nice poem by Rudyard Kipling that starts
"If you can keep your head while all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you"
Much of it is about being a moderate/centrist.
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Apr 26, 2012, 10:37:04 PM4/26/12
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William Morse
Apr 26, 2012, 11:31:37 PM4/26/12
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Apr 26, 2012, 11:37:06 PM4/26/12
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*Hemidactylus*
Apr 26, 2012, 11:38:43 PM4/26/12
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Man%27s_Burden
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Apr 26, 2012, 11:47:40 PM4/26/12
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jillery
Apr 27, 2012, 12:37:52 AM4/27/12
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Syamsu
Apr 27, 2012, 1:16:36 AM4/27/12
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politically correct, you previously stated that a subjective opinion
does not involve freedom in the sense of alternative results from
moment to moment. So you are lying about nazi's, lying about the
holcaust.
nick_keigh...@hotmail.com
Apr 27, 2012, 6:04:36 AM4/27/12
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On Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:06:07 AM UTC+1, prawnster wrote:
> On Apr 25, 12:34 am, nick_keighley_nos...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > I'm guessing you're American where "liberal" has a different meaning from where I come from (the UK)
> >
> > To me liberal simply means human freedom of belief and economically. The American constitution, for instance, is a very liberal document. Basic human rights are important and I believe neither state capitalism not laissez faire capitalism are completly workable systems.
> >
>
> You're describing classical liberalism. Modern liberalism is a
> Puritanical fascism where its adherents try to control the thoughts,
> speech, and actions of others, are intolerant of people who think
> differently from them, and attempt to destroy the lives of those who
> On Apr 25, 12:34 am, nick_keighley_nos...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > I'm guessing you're American where "liberal" has a different meaning from where I come from (the UK)
> >
> > To me liberal simply means human freedom of belief and economically. The American constitution, for instance, is a very liberal document. Basic human rights are important and I believe neither state capitalism not laissez faire capitalism are completly workable systems.
> >
>
> You're describing classical liberalism. Modern liberalism is a
> Puritanical fascism where its adherents try to control the thoughts,
> speech, and actions of others, are intolerant of people who think
> dare voice ideas that differ from theirs. It is the absolute
> antithesis of classical liberalism.
ok I'm a classical liberal. And so are most of the people i know who are self-described liberals. I do recognise your sterotype though. But I'm not sure such people describe themselves a "liberals", at least in the UK
> And no system created by man works;
some are more broken than others though. Soviet style 10 year plans were a disaster. And non-Americans think the American health care system is broken (pre- and post- Obama)
> only a kingdom ruled by a
> perfectly wise and just king populated by perfectly obedient subjects
> is "completely workable." And no matter how strongly narcissistic
> status-whoring Marxists believe they can fulfill the role of the wise
> and just king, if only we'd put them in charge, that kingdom will
> never come to pass on Earth, regardless of how supersmart Marxists
> think they are.
substitute "unrestricted free market" for "Marxist" and you'll have another true statement
*Hemidactylus*
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chris thompson
Apr 27, 2012, 7:20:31 AM4/27/12
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On Apr 26, 2:06 am, prawnster <zweibro...@ymail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 25, 12:34 am, nick_keighley_nos...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > [...]
> On Apr 25, 12:34 am, nick_keighley_nos...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > I'm guessing you're American where "liberal" has a different meaning from where I come from (the UK)
>
> > To me liberal simply means human freedom of belief and economically. The American constitution, for instance, is a very liberal document. Basic human rights are important and I believe neither state capitalism not laissez faire capitalism are completly workable systems.
>
> You're describing classical liberalism. Modern liberalism is a
> Puritanical fascism where its adherents try to control the thoughts,
> speech, and actions of others, are intolerant of people who think
> differently from them, and attempt to destroy the lives of those who
> dare voice ideas that differ from theirs. It is the absolute
> antithesis of classical liberalism.
>
> And no system created by man works; only a kingdom ruled by a
>
> > To me liberal simply means human freedom of belief and economically. The American constitution, for instance, is a very liberal document. Basic human rights are important and I believe neither state capitalism not laissez faire capitalism are completly workable systems.
>
> You're describing classical liberalism. Modern liberalism is a
> Puritanical fascism where its adherents try to control the thoughts,
> speech, and actions of others, are intolerant of people who think
> differently from them, and attempt to destroy the lives of those who
> dare voice ideas that differ from theirs. It is the absolute
> antithesis of classical liberalism.
>
> perfectly wise and just king populated by perfectly obedient subjects
> is "completely workable." And no matter how strongly narcissistic
> status-whoring Marxists believe they can fulfill the role of the wise
> and just king, if only we'd put them in charge, that kingdom will
> never come to pass on Earth, regardless of how supersmart Marxists
> think they are.
Stop taking LSD. It's bad for you.
> is "completely workable." And no matter how strongly narcissistic
> status-whoring Marxists believe they can fulfill the role of the wise
> and just king, if only we'd put them in charge, that kingdom will
> never come to pass on Earth, regardless of how supersmart Marxists
> think they are.
Chris
Robert Grumbine
Apr 27, 2012, 8:55:29 AM4/27/12
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In article <7231e3a5-bdae-480d...@w5g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>, Will in New Haven wrote:
[trim]
> Well, pretty much _everyone_ pisses me off. I don't think it is
> political disagreement that does that. This _thread_ annoys the hell
> out of me because Prawnster, and virtually everyone who responds to
> him tacitly agrees, conflates political liberalism (using the word in
> its modern U.S. meeaning) with an acceptance of the scientific
> evidence. I'm off the right edge of the earth on most issues and I
> think it is obvious that evolution has occured, is continuing to occur
> and will occur in the future. I don't even see any conflict there.
Those of us writing from the US do have some excuse there.
In the US, the 'conservative' party (you know they're conservative
because they tell you so*) has declared accepting science answers
on science questions anathema. Ergo, doing so is 'liberal'.
It'll continue to mean so until 'conservative' party members who
think science is a good way to answer scientific questions start
voting against candidates who don't. And doing so in significant
numbers.
I'm old enough to remember a time when my bet, for who would
accept the science on a science question, would have been random
Republican over random Democrat. My kids look at me like I had
told them that in my day, the sky was green with orange polkadots.
Colbert's line "Reality has a well-known liberal bias" would have
made no sense at all back then.
* But that's the only way you'd know any more.
--
Robert Grumbine http://moregrumbinescience.blogspot.com/ Science blog
Sagredo (Galileo Galilei) "You present these recondite matters with too much
evidence and ease; this great facility makes them less appreciated than they
would be had they been presented in a more abstruse manner." Two New Sciences
[trim]
> Well, pretty much _everyone_ pisses me off. I don't think it is
> political disagreement that does that. This _thread_ annoys the hell
> out of me because Prawnster, and virtually everyone who responds to
> him tacitly agrees, conflates political liberalism (using the word in
> its modern U.S. meeaning) with an acceptance of the scientific
> evidence. I'm off the right edge of the earth on most issues and I
> think it is obvious that evolution has occured, is continuing to occur
> and will occur in the future. I don't even see any conflict there.
Those of us writing from the US do have some excuse there.
In the US, the 'conservative' party (you know they're conservative
because they tell you so*) has declared accepting science answers
on science questions anathema. Ergo, doing so is 'liberal'.
It'll continue to mean so until 'conservative' party members who
think science is a good way to answer scientific questions start
voting against candidates who don't. And doing so in significant
numbers.
I'm old enough to remember a time when my bet, for who would
accept the science on a science question, would have been random
Republican over random Democrat. My kids look at me like I had
told them that in my day, the sky was green with orange polkadots.
Colbert's line "Reality has a well-known liberal bias" would have
made no sense at all back then.
* But that's the only way you'd know any more.
--
Robert Grumbine http://moregrumbinescience.blogspot.com/ Science blog
Sagredo (Galileo Galilei) "You present these recondite matters with too much
evidence and ease; this great facility makes them less appreciated than they
would be had they been presented in a more abstruse manner." Two New Sciences
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Walter Bushell
Apr 27, 2012, 9:01:47 AM4/27/12
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In article
<0d23689e-67a0-435c...@f5g2000vby.googlegroups.com>,
I don't know, perhaps he needs more LSD.
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Apr 27, 2012, 9:26:48 AM4/27/12
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On Apr 26, 3:18 pm, Boikat <boi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > like the
> > people on the bigbang theory television show.
>
Mitchell
> That depends upon the subject of the opinion.
>
>
> > denying the legitemacy of subjective opinion in respect to
> > agency.
>
> > agency.
>
> That also depends on the subject of the opinion.
>
>
> > To deny subjective opinion makes you all quite nuts,
>
>
> What makes you think he rejects subjective opinions on some matters,
> like personal taste in music or food?
Or love and hate, to mention his odd little hobby-horse.
> like personal taste in music or food?
> > like the
> > people on the bigbang theory television show.
>
> Your keepers don't let you out very much, do they?
Too often, if you ask me.
Mitchell
Mitchell Coffey
Apr 27, 2012, 9:29:38 AM4/27/12
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able to quote me saying as such. I have said that rocks and quantum
states do not have free will and, I shall add, they do not have
subjective opinions.
Mitchell Coffey
Mitchell Coffey
Apr 27, 2012, 9:46:21 AM4/27/12
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Philippine Islands." It was arguably intend as an ironic message to
Americans, who had just happily taken up new imperial adventures
abroad, and claimed to be doing well by doing good.
Our view of Kipling is overly influenced by the racist Disney cartoon
versions of his children's stories. I've read a bit of his fiction,
and just read Kim a couple of weeks ago. In fact for his time he had a
subtle and sympathetic take on Indian culture.
Of course Kipling thought British imperial influence on India was in
all a positive thing. In fact, Indian unity and progressive
institutions generally go back to the British occupation. Even Nehru
told John Kenneth Galbraith that the British were a positive force in
India until c. the end of WWI, when they sould have left.
Mitchell Coffey
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