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Jason Spaceman

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Apr 26, 2007, 6:52:02 AM4/26/07
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From the article:
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Midnight in the Garden of Eden: Two Birds with One Stone

Author answers 'biggie' questions of life and religion.

Longwood, FL (PRWEB) April 26, 2007 -- For the first time ever,
science has the answer to the age-old dispute between creationism and
evolution. Denis Towers, author of Two Birds ... One Stone!! 1.
Biblical Adam and Eve: Proven True; 2. Organic Evolution of the
Species: Proven False; A Scientific Study ... Scientific Proof
(paperback, 978-1-60034-899-0), answers the big questions of life that
have eluded men and women for centuries, relying heavily on both
Scripture and science to reconcile the two to one another.

Originally conceived nine years ago to answer the growing call for
help from spiritually struggling youth and adults, the work quickly
developed into something much more encompassing -- one capable of
answering all the truly big questions of life. Education today denies
what the bulk of Americans and other Westerners want, says Towers. The
percentage of the public who hope to have religion taught in their
schools is around 90 percent in English-speaking countries. Towers is
moving for a push in this direction with Two Birds ... One Stone!!

"The book is designed especially for Christian parents and students to
be able to disprove for themselves the so-called 'evidences for
evolution' that are pitched at them in order to shake their faith,"
says Towers. "This work hits evolution broadside."

Married with seven children, author Denis Towers served two church
missions and has served in different church positions since the age of
17. He is the inventor of a new concept in flight, foil art, three new
sports, three board games, a composer of sacred and secular music and
has retired unbeaten in two chosen sports fields. In 2004, he ran for
federal parliament.

Xulon Press is the world's largest Christian publisher, with more than
2,700 titles published to date. Retailers may order Two Birds…One
Stone!! through Ingram Book Company and/or Spring Arbor Book
Distributors.
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Read it at http://www.prweb.com/releases/2007/4/prweb521499.htm

J. Spaceman

Rolf

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Apr 26, 2007, 7:40:37 AM4/26/07
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"Jason Spaceman" <notr...@jspaceman.homelinux.org> skrev i melding
news:au01339j2c29cfgmj...@4ax.com...
> From the article:
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

No only a great sportsman, he has beaten Ray to it too.


> Xulon Press is the world's largest Christian publisher, with more than

> 2,700 titles published to date. Retailers may order Two Birds.One

CreateThis

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Apr 26, 2007, 8:37:15 AM4/26/07
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:52:02 -0400, Jason Spaceman
<notr...@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:

>From the article:
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>... Education today denies


>what the bulk of Americans and other Westerners want, says Towers.

Yeah, I want to be taught that I can leap tall buildings in a single
bound. Our schools are failing me!

CT

Cheezits

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Apr 26, 2007, 8:45:15 AM4/26/07
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CreateThis <Creat...@yippee.con> wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:52:02 -0400, Jason Spaceman
> <notr...@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
>
>>From the article:
>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>--------- ... Education today denies

>>what the bulk of Americans and other Westerners want, says Towers.
>
> Yeah, I want to be taught that I can leap tall buildings in a single
> bound. Our schools are failing me!

I want to be taught that all you need for a balanced diet is pizza and
beer and donuts.

Sue
--
"Mmmm, floor pie!" - Homer Simpson

John Wilkins

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Apr 26, 2007, 9:12:27 AM4/26/07
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Cheezits <Cheez...@hotmail.com> wrote:

And I want to be paid to teach you that...
--
John S. Wilkins, Postdoctoral Research Fellow, Biohumanities Project
University of Queensland - Blog: scienceblogs.com/evolvingthoughts
"He used... sarcasm. He knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor,
bathos, puns, parody, litotes and... satire. He was vicious."

Greg G.

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Apr 26, 2007, 10:41:31 AM4/26/07
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On Apr 26, 6:52 am, Jason Spaceman <notrea...@jspaceman.homelinux.org>
wrote:
...

> "The book is designed especially for Christian parents and students to
> be able to disprove for themselves the so-called 'evidences for
> evolution' that are pitched at them in order to shake their faith,"
> says Towers. "This work hits evolution broadside."

Lemme guess - more nihilism.

--
Greg G.

The way my luck has been running, I wouldn't be surprized if this
Nigerian bank transaction ended up costing me more that I make.

geo...@hotmail.com

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Apr 26, 2007, 10:54:14 AM4/26/07
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> "The book is designed especially for Christian parents and students to
> be able to disprove for themselves the so-called 'evidences for
> evolution' that are pitched at them in order to shake their faith,"
> says Towers.

To borrow a phrase from someone else...

LIAR!

Lying makes it so easy for these chaps. Perhaps evolutionists should
try it - after all, we are all apparently atheists with no moral code,
it's not like we have to follow those ten commandments, eh?

Martin Andersen

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Apr 26, 2007, 11:41:11 AM4/26/07
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Jason Spaceman wrote:
> From the article:
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[snip]
> Married with seven children
[snip]

I wouldn't be surprised.

LloydBrown

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Apr 26, 2007, 1:29:15 PM4/26/07
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Xulon is what's known in publishing as a vanity publisher. They
publish anything you send them, as long as the check clears.

Want to impress me? Sell it to Houghton-Mifflin.

Zuca

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Apr 26, 2007, 2:23:02 PM4/26/07
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John Wilkins schreef:

> Cheezits <Cheez...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> CreateThis <Creat...@yippee.con> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:52:02 -0400, Jason Spaceman
>>> <notr...@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> >From the article:
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> --------- ... Education today denies
>>>> what the bulk of Americans and other Westerners want, says Towers.
>>> Yeah, I want to be taught that I can leap tall buildings in a single
>>> bound. Our schools are failing me!
>> I want to be taught that all you need for a balanced diet is pizza and
>> beer and donuts.
>>
> And I want to be paid to teach you that...

I want to be taught that hospitals are useless, god fixes everything.

Desertphile

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Apr 26, 2007, 3:56:49 PM4/26/07
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:52:02 -0400, Jason Spaceman
<notr...@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:

> From the article:
> ------------------------------------------------------------


> Midnight in the Garden of Eden: Two Birds with One Stone
>
> Author answers 'biggie' questions of life and religion.
>
> Longwood, FL (PRWEB) April 26, 2007 -- For the first time ever,

What, again?! This makes about twenty times in one week.


--
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crownofp...@yahoo.com

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Apr 26, 2007, 4:48:13 PM4/26/07
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On Apr 26, 6:52 am, Jason Spaceman <notrea...@jspaceman.homelinux.org>
wrote:
> From the article:
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----
> Midnight in the Garden of Eden: Two Birds with One Stone
>
> Author answers 'biggie' questions of life and religion.
>>
> Married with seven children, author Denis Towers served two church
> missions and has served in different church positions since the age of
> 17. He is the inventor of a new concept in flight, foil art, three new
> sports, three board games, a composer of sacred and secular music and
> has retired unbeaten in two chosen sports fields. In 2004, he ran for
> federal parliament.

Damn it, people! How can you make sport of the man who invented foil
art?

Augray

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Apr 26, 2007, 5:34:13 PM4/26/07
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:52:02 -0400, Jason Spaceman
<notr...@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in
<au01339j2c29cfgmj...@4ax.com> :

>From the article:
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Midnight in the Garden of Eden: Two Birds with One Stone
>
>Author answers 'biggie' questions of life and religion.

[snip]

>Married with seven children, author Denis Towers served two church
>missions and has served in different church positions since the age of
>17. He is the inventor of a new concept in flight, foil art, three new
>sports, three board games, a composer of sacred and secular music and
>has retired unbeaten in two chosen sports fields. In 2004, he ran for
>federal parliament.

This guy looks to be a master-class loon. If one goes to his blog at
http://godly-science.blogspot.com/ one discovers that the two "chosen
sports fields" that he retired from unbeaten just happen to be two of
the three that he invented. Anyone can invent a new sport, but
bragging about it on your resume seems more than a bit strange.

[snip]

edwar...@verizon.net

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Apr 26, 2007, 8:28:07 PM4/26/07
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On Apr 26, 4:48 pm, crownofpaperma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Damn it, people! How can you make sport of the man who invented foil
> art?

Obviously a misprint. Should have said, "...foil HATS."


John Wilkins

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Apr 26, 2007, 9:04:46 PM4/26/07
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Zuca <Zu...@utopiandragons.com> wrote:

My fees begin at $500 per hour. I can teach you anything you wish to
know. For values of "know" that include "I paid a lot of money to hear
this".

Zuca

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Apr 26, 2007, 9:56:17 PM4/26/07
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John Wilkins schreef:

> Zuca <Zu...@utopiandragons.com> wrote:
>
>> John Wilkins schreef:
>>> Cheezits <Cheez...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> CreateThis <Creat...@yippee.con> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:52:02 -0400, Jason Spaceman
>>>>> <notr...@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >From the article:
>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> --------- ... Education today denies
>>>>>> what the bulk of Americans and other Westerners want, says Towers.
>>>>> Yeah, I want to be taught that I can leap tall buildings in a single
>>>>> bound. Our schools are failing me!
>>>> I want to be taught that all you need for a balanced diet is pizza and
>>>> beer and donuts.
>>>>
>>> And I want to be paid to teach you that...
>> I want to be taught that hospitals are useless, god fixes everything.
>
> My fees begin at $500 per hour. I can teach you anything you wish to
> know. For values of "know" that include "I paid a lot of money to hear
> this".

Sounds like a great deal, technically the value of my "knowledge" in
that aspect increases the more I pay you, wonderful, I'm nearly in
heaven already.

Zuca

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Apr 26, 2007, 9:57:31 PM4/26/07
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Martin Andersen schreef:
Yeah, condoms are for those who don't believe, god will stop you from
having babies if this are his ways.. And his ways are many.

Augray

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Apr 26, 2007, 10:33:49 PM4/26/07
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:52:02 -0400, Jason Spaceman
<notr...@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in
<au01339j2c29cfgmj...@4ax.com> :

>From the article:
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Midnight in the Garden of Eden: Two Birds with One Stone
>
>Author answers 'biggie' questions of life and religion.
>
>Longwood, FL (PRWEB) April 26, 2007 -- For the first time ever,
>science has the answer to the age-old dispute between creationism and
>evolution. Denis Towers, author of Two Birds ... One Stone!! 1.
>Biblical Adam and Eve: Proven True; 2. Organic Evolution of the
>Species: Proven False; A Scientific Study ... Scientific Proof
>(paperback, 978-1-60034-899-0), answers the big questions of life that
>have eluded men and women for centuries, relying heavily on both
>Scripture and science to reconcile the two to one another.

[snip]

>In 2004, he ran for federal parliament.

And here's how he did:
http://results.aec.gov.au/12246/results/HouseDivisionFirstPrefs-12246-203.htm

[snip]

Martin Andersen

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Apr 26, 2007, 10:43:54 PM4/26/07
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Damn, someone got fewer votes than him. What did he do? Eat babies?

Ye Old One

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Apr 27, 2007, 5:04:53 AM4/27/07
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:52:02 -0400, Jason Spaceman
<notr...@jspaceman.homelinux.org> enriched this group when s/he
wrote:

Anyone who has so little respect for his wife, and for our planet, as
to have SEVEN bloody kids shoul dbe shot at dawn.

> author Denis Towers served two church
>missions and has served in different church positions since the age of
>17. He is the inventor of a new concept in flight, foil art, three new
>sports, three board games, a composer of sacred and secular music and
>has retired unbeaten in two chosen sports fields. In 2004, he ran for
>federal parliament.
>
>Xulon Press is the world's largest Christian publisher, with more than
>2,700 titles published to date. Retailers may order Two Birds…One
>Stone!! through Ingram Book Company and/or Spring Arbor Book
>Distributors.
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Read it at http://www.prweb.com/releases/2007/4/prweb521499.htm

--
Bob.

John Wilkins

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Apr 27, 2007, 6:35:08 AM4/27/07
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Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:

> >Married with seven children,
>
> Anyone who has so little respect for his wife, and for our planet, as
> to have SEVEN bloody kids shoul dbe shot at dawn.

That's a silly comment to make.

Ye Old One

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Apr 27, 2007, 10:08:37 PM4/27/07
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:35:08 +1000, j.wil...@uq.edu.au (John
Wilkins) enriched this group when s/he wrote:

>Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:
>
>> >Married with seven children,
>>
>> Anyone who has so little respect for his wife, and for our planet, as
>> to have SEVEN bloody kids shoul dbe shot at dawn.
>
>That's a silly comment to make.

Our planet cannot afford to have people like him having 7 kids. Over
the next few centuries we must reduce our population considerably.

--
Bob.

John Wilkins

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Apr 27, 2007, 10:22:02 PM4/27/07
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Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:35:08 +1000, j.wil...@uq.edu.au (John
> Wilkins) enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>
> >Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:
> >
> >> >Married with seven children,
> >>
> >> Anyone who has so little respect for his wife, and for our planet, as
> >> to have SEVEN bloody kids shoul dbe shot at dawn.
> >
> >That's a silly comment to make.
>
> Our planet cannot afford to have people like him having 7 kids. Over
> the next few centuries we must reduce our population considerably.

That's as may be, but attacking individuals with big families in the
complete absence of knowldge about that person or their situation is
just silly, leaving aside the hyperbole about being shot.

Someone whose ecological footprint is a tenth of yours may have seven
kids for reasons that do not apply to you (many developing nations have
no old age retirement pensions, and lots of kids is the only way to
ensure that one will not starve to death when you are old, for example).
Next, the real issue with overpopulation is at the population *level*,
and has more to do with economics and education than berating
individuals. Finally, if I had the money and a willing partner, I would
have had at least five kids - I just love kids is all. But if several
others in my circle have none, then it balances out anyway, so personal
attacks do not make much sense.

Cemtech

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Apr 27, 2007, 10:49:47 PM4/27/07
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In article <f0qqln$79m$1...@news6.zwoll1.ov.home.nl>,
Zu...@utopiandragons.com says...

I work at a county hospital. I'm sure praying would cut back on
expenses and malpractice suits. =)
--
Steve "Chris" Price
Associate Professor of Computational Aesthetics
Amish Chair of Electrical Engineering
University of Ediacara "A fine tradition since 530,000,000 BC"

Robert Carnegie

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Apr 28, 2007, 11:23:35 AM4/28/07
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LloydBrown wrote:

> Xulon is what's known in publishing as a vanity publisher. They
> publish anything you send them, as long as the check clears.

I was going to say "We shouldn't criticise this book without seeing
it."

Which we never will, unless there's a free PDF version, or someone
decides to buy it for a reason other than its intellectual merit. For
instance, if relax editorial policy on t.o nevertheless does
something that I strongly disapprove of, I may make a protest by
buying this book and giving it to a teacher.

Ye Old One

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Apr 28, 2007, 4:32:48 PM4/28/07
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On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 12:22:02 +1000, j.wil...@uq.edu.au (John

Wilkins) enriched this group when s/he wrote:

>Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:35:08 +1000, j.wil...@uq.edu.au (John
>> Wilkins) enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>>
>> >Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >Married with seven children,
>> >>
>> >> Anyone who has so little respect for his wife, and for our planet, as
>> >> to have SEVEN bloody kids shoul dbe shot at dawn.
>> >
>> >That's a silly comment to make.
>>
>> Our planet cannot afford to have people like him having 7 kids. Over
>> the next few centuries we must reduce our population considerably.
>
>That's as may be, but attacking individuals with big families in the
>complete absence of knowldge about that person or their situation is
>just silly, leaving aside the hyperbole about being shot.

You think there is some "knowledge about that person or their
situation" that can justify seven children?


>
>Someone whose ecological footprint is a tenth of yours may have seven
>kids for reasons that do not apply to you (many developing nations have
>no old age retirement pensions, and lots of kids is the only way to
>ensure that one will not starve to death when you are old, for example).

Not a valid reason, it just generates an even large population of old
people in 60 years time.

>Next, the real issue with overpopulation is at the population *level*,
>and has more to do with economics and education than berating
>individuals.

The solution lies at the individual level. Yes, education is
important, but when it comes down to it the individual made the
choice.

> Finally, if I had the money and a willing partner, I would
>have had at least five kids - I just love kids is all. But if several
>others in my circle have none, then it balances out anyway, so personal
>attacks do not make much sense.

Sorry, but more than two is very selfish.


--
Bob.

John Wilkins

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Apr 28, 2007, 9:27:52 PM4/28/07
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Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 12:22:02 +1000, j.wil...@uq.edu.au (John
> Wilkins) enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>
> >Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:35:08 +1000, j.wil...@uq.edu.au (John
> >> Wilkins) enriched this group when s/he wrote:
> >>
> >> >Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> >Married with seven children,
> >> >>
> >> >> Anyone who has so little respect for his wife, and for our planet, as
> >> >> to have SEVEN bloody kids shoul dbe shot at dawn.
> >> >
> >> >That's a silly comment to make.
> >>
> >> Our planet cannot afford to have people like him having 7 kids. Over
> >> the next few centuries we must reduce our population considerably.
> >
> >That's as may be, but attacking individuals with big families in the
> >complete absence of knowldge about that person or their situation is
> >just silly, leaving aside the hyperbole about being shot.
>
> You think there is some "knowledge about that person or their
> situation" that can justify seven children?

Wrong question. The question *you* raised is, "is there some aspect of
having seven children that will justify shooting them?"

I can think of all kinds of reasons in which having seven children is
not a matter of culpability. For example - a sperm donor; or someone who
was unaware of the ecological consequences, or perhaps he has adopted
seven children. And that is only the surface of reasons why somone
should not be taken to be culpable. But suppose none of these were true
- and the person did so knowing the ecological impacts; why should in
every case ecology be the driving motive here? You and I share that
value, but he may be operating under the "outbreed infidels" meme that
among others Catholics share. Should all Catholics be shot?


> >
> >Someone whose ecological footprint is a tenth of yours may have seven
> >kids for reasons that do not apply to you (many developing nations have
> >no old age retirement pensions, and lots of kids is the only way to
> >ensure that one will not starve to death when you are old, for example).
>
> Not a valid reason, it just generates an even large population of old
> people in 60 years time.

No it doesn't. Get real - large families are most common in societies in
which the postnatal death rate of children is massive. A society that
has good child medicine tends towards smaller families over time, as the
west has demonstrated.

As to the comment about respect for the wife - surely that is itself a
bit patronising. Women have a part to play in this, you know, even in
underdeveloped countries.


>
> >Next, the real issue with overpopulation is at the population *level*,
> >and has more to do with economics and education than berating
> >individuals.
>
> The solution lies at the individual level. Yes, education is
> important, but when it comes down to it the individual made the
> choice.
>
> > Finally, if I had the money and a willing partner, I would
> >have had at least five kids - I just love kids is all. But if several
> >others in my circle have none, then it balances out anyway, so personal
> >attacks do not make much sense.
>
> Sorry, but more than two is very selfish.

So you believe. Why that is a justification for demeaning those who
don't is beyond me; but then I never got the whole infidel thing anyway.

Walter Bushell

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Apr 29, 2007, 5:38:18 AM4/29/07
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In article <1hxbwkv.1rbn9xr1eht3p5N%j.wil...@uq.edu.au>,
j.wil...@uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote:

> Women have a part to play in this, you know, even in
> underdeveloped countries.

Unfortuantly, that does not always include the right to say "No!".

Robert Carnegie

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Apr 29, 2007, 5:07:25 PM4/29/07
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Ye Old One wrote:

What's wrong with being selfish? And if overpopulation is your
concern, how do you justify two, or one?

Noelie S. Alito

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Apr 29, 2007, 10:11:56 PM4/29/07
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Robert Carnegie wrote:
> Ye Old One wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 12:22:02 +1000, j.wil...@uq.edu.au (John
>> Wilkins) enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>>
>>> Finally, if I had the money and a willing partner, I would
>>> have had at least five kids - I just love kids is all. But if several
>>> others in my circle have none, then it balances out anyway, so personal
>>> attacks do not make much sense.
>> Sorry, but more than two is very selfish.


I and four of my siblings hereby donate our unused quota to
the "selfish" people who want to spend their time, money and
sanity on raising kids.


> What's wrong with being selfish? And if overpopulation is your
> concern, how do you justify two, or one?


Age-heavy populations like China and much of the industrialized
world will depend on imports of young workers and caretakers
from other societies (i.e., migration and temp worker programs).
There's a growing number of American retirees who go to young
countries like Mexico for cheaper personal care.


Noelie, sunning herself by the gene pool


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