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Elf M. Sternberg

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Apr 21, 2007, 11:04:05 AM4/21/07
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From the article:
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DON WALTON
Published: Apr 20, 2007

We could pretend that today's college campuses are bastions of
morality, and that Blacksburg, in particular, was the virtuous center
of the universe. Yet, we all know the denigration of human life that
is common today on America's university campuses, where the theory of
evolution is dogma, the sanctity of human life is viewed as antiquated
and things like abortion, euthanasia and stem-cell research are
readily advocated.

Why, then, should we be surprised when an almost fully indoctrinated
college senior shows a blatant disregard for human life? Perhaps,
what's surprising about Cho Seung-Hui's dastardly deed is that it is
not a more common occurrence on today's college and university
campuses - places where young people are routinely taught that life
has evolved without purpose and to no end, is governed by the survival
of the fittest and may be justifiably taken from someone when deemed
by others as expendable.
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Read it at:
http://www.hernandotoday.com/MGBKVEE8R0F.html

Elf M. Sternberg

Lexington Victoria-Rice

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Apr 21, 2007, 1:12:26 PM4/21/07
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I had always heard that the big thing that Christian Fundamentalists
touted was "personal responsibility?" So now, it is not Cho's fault
that he gunned down those kids. He was just doing it because he biology
teachers told him it is okay!

He would have been such a nice boy if not for evilutionism!


--
"Fundamentalists can kiss my left behind."

Some bumper sticker or t-shirt.

loua...@yahoo.com

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Apr 21, 2007, 2:50:15 PM4/21/07
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On Apr 21, 12:12 pm, Lexington Victoria-Rice

If only he hadn't been a godless atheist! If he'd only gone to church,
especially one that takes the Bible -really seriously- and -really
literally,- they would have shown him the error of his ways and
supernaturally redeemed him from his sins and/or psychosis.

Oh, wait a minute....


Roger Coppock

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Apr 21, 2007, 3:53:27 PM4/21/07
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Everybody has an axe to grind in the recent school shooting.
Talk radio last week had a caller who was sure that male
circumcision was responsible. Soon, some kook just has
to notice Cho's major, and then demand that we ban English
departments from our schools.

Desertphile

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Apr 21, 2007, 5:27:37 PM4/21/07
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"Don Walton is a minister and founder of Time for Truth Ministries
in Spring Hill."

Odd, but he seems to have no time for truth when it came to this
article of his.


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'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank

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Apr 21, 2007, 5:55:36 PM4/21/07
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On Apr 21, 10:04 am, "Elf M. Sternberg" <e...@drizzle.com> wrote:
> From the article:
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-------------

> DON WALTON
> Published: Apr 20, 2007
>
> We could pretend that today's college campuses are bastions of
> morality, and that Blacksburg, in particular, was the virtuous center
> of the universe. Yet, we all know the denigration of human life that
> is common today on America's university campuses, where the theory of
> evolution is dogma, the sanctity of human life is viewed as antiquated
> and things like abortion, euthanasia and stem-cell research are
> readily advocated.
>


Maybe we should kill all the atheists . . . . . . ?

================================================
Lenny Flank
"There are no loose threads in the web of life"


Author:
"Deception by Design: The Intelligent Design Movement in America"
http://www.redandblackpublishers.com/deceptionbydesign.html

Creation "Science" Debunked:
http://www.geocities.com/lflank


Klaus

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Apr 21, 2007, 5:56:58 PM4/21/07
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He was upset that those damned engineering students were getting much
better job offers than English Literature majors.
That, and the fact he had no friends because he was an arrogant,
paranoid, and all-around delusional jackass loser.
Unfortunately, instead of the media repeatedly pointed out what a loser
he was, and how his problems were his own fault, the treat him like a
celebrity. Now, we have a lot of copycats to deal with.
This is is evidence of the media trying to incite violence so they can
capitalize on it, like the whole Rodney King affair.
Klaus

Dan Luke

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Apr 21, 2007, 7:22:16 PM4/21/07
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"Klaus" wrote:

> Unfortunately, instead of the media repeatedly pointed out what a loser he
> was, and how his problems were his own fault, the treat him like a
> celebrity. Now, we have a lot of copycats to deal with.
> This is is evidence of the media trying to incite violence so they can
> capitalize on it, like the whole Rodney King affair.

You sound just like the creationist kook, Klaus.

--
Dan

"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
- Chief Inspector Dreyfus


Pete G.

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Apr 21, 2007, 11:32:00 PM4/21/07
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"Elf M. Sternberg" <e...@drizzle.com> wrote in message
news:878xcl7...@drizzle.com...

> From the article:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> DON WALTON
> Published: Apr 20, 2007
>
> We could pretend that today's college campuses are bastions of
> morality, and that Blacksburg, in particular, was the virtuous center
> of the universe. Yet, we all know the denigration of human life that
> is common today on America's university campuses, where the theory of
> evolution is dogma, the sanctity of human life is viewed as antiquated
> and things like abortion, euthanasia and stem-cell research are
> readily advocated.

Just to make sure we all know what it is that scum like 'Don Walton' will
prevent if they win their fight against stem-cell research:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3638474.stm

P.

Klaus

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Apr 22, 2007, 1:13:47 AM4/22/07
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Dan Luke wrote:
> "Klaus" wrote:
>
>
>>Unfortunately, instead of the media repeatedly pointed out what a loser he
>>was, and how his problems were his own fault, the treat him like a
>>celebrity. Now, we have a lot of copycats to deal with.
>>This is is evidence of the media trying to incite violence so they can
>>capitalize on it, like the whole Rodney King affair.
>
>
> You sound just like the creationist kook, Klaus.
>

In what way?
The media are, IMHO, giving him way too much publicity, and , as a
result, many copycats have tried get similar publicity.
If you are referring to my reference to the way the Rodney King beating
was presented, with the edited tape that was aired repeatedly, and the
strategic omission of information concerning the first trial and verdict
which lead to the riots (hint: the officers were acquited of the charge
of ATTEMPTED MURDER, not using excessive force, as implied), please
point out my kookiness.
Klaus

Mark Isaak

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Apr 22, 2007, 2:04:30 AM4/22/07
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It would be just as simple to ban schools. And guaranteed to prevent
any more school shootings.

--
Mark Isaak eciton (at) earthlink (dot) net
"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of
the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are
being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and
exposing the country to danger." -- Hermann Goering

coaster

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Apr 22, 2007, 2:11:56 AM4/22/07
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You asked to please point out your kookiness. Okay then..

You said, "Unfortunately, instead of the media repeatedly pointed out
what a loser he
was, and how his problems were his own fault, the [sic.] treat him
like a celebrity."

If you turn to any station that is covering this tragic story you will
repeatedly hear them describe this man as "troubled", "likely
schizophrenic", "disturbed", "with violent tendencies". You won't
hear them describing him as "treated unfairly", "unlucky", "a product
of a harsh world".. or some other bullshit such as would propel his
celebrity. So I'm sorry but you are wrong.

Then you said, "The media are, IMHO, giving him way too much


publicity, and , as a
result, many copycats have tried get similar publicity."

There is no doubt that copycats do exist and are a problem. But what
do you plan to do about it? Limit the story to certain networks?
Limit the amount of time each network should be allowed to follow a
story? How much publicity do you think a tragic story deserves? One
day? Two days? An hour and a half? Should the lucky network be a
random pick or on rotation? Surely if you're not a kook then you have
the answer.

Unfortunately there will always be the risk of copycats and even more
unfortunately there is very little that we can do about it. Most
copycats are benign, some are not, and occasionally one causes
trouble. Frankly I think there are a lot of better examples than Cho
whats-his-name with more profound consequences of the media-gone-
wild. But if we were to dictate how much time the media spent on a
particular subject, what pictures they could show, what words they
could use, or on what networks it could air... that would open up a
can of worms the likes of which Dune has never seen. And Klaus, I
can't emphasize enough how big the worms on Dune are. Especially in
the deep desert. Do you understand what I'm trying to say?

*sigh*

You might just be a temporary kook. I sincerely hope that is the
case. Please reexamine your beliefs on this subject. It's the only
way you'll break free the bonds of kookiness and at last live honestly
with yourself and with others... particularly on this newsgroup.

Desertphile

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Apr 22, 2007, 1:13:30 PM4/22/07
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 21:56:58 GMT, Klaus <khel...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

Also a Fundamentalist Christian, apparently.


> Unfortunately, instead of the media repeatedly pointed out what a loser
> he was, and how his problems were his own fault, the treat him like a
> celebrity. Now, we have a lot of copycats to deal with.
> This is is evidence of the media trying to incite violence so they can
> capitalize on it, like the whole Rodney King affair.
> Klaus

Klaus

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Apr 22, 2007, 3:57:19 PM4/22/07
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Thank you for your response. I did not mean to imply that the media were
condoning his actions. I meant that they should have refuted his video
when they played it, pointing out that he was responsible for his
failures and actions, not others who worked hard and planned ahead.
Showing 30 seconds of hate filled ranting and then simply saying he was
disturbed or troubled seems inadequate to me.
I am not advocating censorship, but I am certainly criticizing the way
the media is giving him exposure.
Klaus

Cemtech

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Apr 23, 2007, 8:00:25 PM4/23/07
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In article <1177185207.4...@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
rcop...@adnc.com says...

It was the evils of Shakespearianism that lead him to it!
--
Steve "Chris" Price
Associate Professor of Computational Aesthetics
Amish Chair of Electrical Engineering
University of Ediacara "A fine tradition since 530,000,000 BC"

Mark Isaak

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Apr 23, 2007, 8:42:41 PM4/23/07
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On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 17:00:25 -0700, Cemtech wrote:

> In article <1177185207.4...@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
> rcop...@adnc.com says...
>> Everybody has an axe to grind in the recent school shooting.
>> Talk radio last week had a caller who was sure that male
>> circumcision was responsible. Soon, some kook just has
>> to notice Cho's major, and then demand that we ban English
>> departments from our schools.
>
> It was the evils of Shakespearianism that lead him to it!

Obviously. Shakespeare's birthday was coming up (it is today), and he
didn't want people celebrating it.

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