Well, this is it
Logos
I tried. I thought someone, just maybe one of you, might have a light bulb
click on and get what I was trying to argue.
I thought some of the every-day thoughts and feelings from every-day people
might make you understand my people and where we are coming from.
Instead, you were more interested in assaulting my character, making me into
a figure of fun, impugning my thoughts and words, twisting what I said to
suit your caricatures.
You won't see me around here again. And I'm telling my associates about the
quality of people to be found here: dogmatic, uncurious, more concerned
about their culture of athiesm than about learning about G_d, the only true
constant in the universe.
I've also prayed for all of you? Did you know that? So while all of you
have called me hateful, awful and mean-hearted, I have given of myself to
pray to G_d for all of you, hoping you would see the light one day. Maybe
you still will one day. And if and/or when that day comes, I sure hope you
remember me.
MrSpooky
you're going to have to provide solid evidence and argue from an
epistemic foundation rather than one based on appeals to emotion?
John Harshman
See ya. Get that multiple personality disorder treated if you can. And
say hi to Dr. Milkey for me.
thissteve
Logos wrote:
> This is it. This is good bye.
Change your name and give it another go, remembering the advice to
choose the _best_ _single_ person to respond to if you get swamped.
Ken Shackleton
Logos wrote:
> This is it. This is good bye.
>
> I tried. I thought someone, just maybe one of you, might have a light bulb
> click on and get what I was trying to argue.
>
> I thought some of the every-day thoughts and feelings from every-day people
> might make you understand my people and where we are coming from.
>
> Instead, you were more interested in assaulting my character, making me into
> a figure of fun, impugning my thoughts and words, twisting what I said to
> suit your caricatures.
>
> You won't see me around here again. And I'm telling my associates about the
> quality of people to be found here: dogmatic, uncurious, more concerned
> about their culture of athiesm than about learning about G_d, the only true
> constant in the universe.
>
> I've also prayed for all of you?
Thanks for that.....but look what the prayers of almost a billion
Catholics did for the last Pope.....
Chris Thompson
news:ObidnVe0NcPKXV_e...@adelphia.com:
> This is it. This is good bye.
gasp.
> I tried.
_Being_ trying is not the same as trying.
> I thought someone, just maybe one of you, might have a light
> bulb click on and get what I was trying to argue.
We spotted the total nonsense right away.
> I thought some of the every-day thoughts and feelings from every-day
> people might make you understand my people and where we are coming
> from.
To whom do you refer when you say "my people"? Who is "we"? Do you have
tapeworms?
> Instead, you were more interested in assaulting my character,
Hmm. Who started that?
> making
> me into a figure of fun,
You didn't need any help on that one.
> impugning my thoughts and words,
DO you think?
> twisting
> what I said to suit your caricatures.
As opposed to the way you twist science to suit your little fairy tales?
You're either an accomplished, vile Loki, or a vile little hypocrite.
> You won't see me around here again.
Ass. Door. Thwack!
> And I'm telling my associates
> about the quality of people to be found here: dogmatic, uncurious,
> more concerned about their culture of athiesm than about learning
> about G_d, the only true constant in the universe.
We're scared now right? Are we scared yet? Is this the part where we all
fall to our knees and beseech Little Logos to please stay and enlighten
us with more stories of drug-dealing atheist 14-year olds who've been
twisted so badly by slum-dwelling evilutionist parent?
Ah, no. It's not that part.
> I've also prayed for all of you? Did you know that?
> So while all of
> you have called me hateful, awful and mean-hearted, I have given of
> myself to pray to G_d for all of you, hoping you would see the light
> one day. Maybe you still will one day. And if and/or when that day
> comes, I sure hope you remember me.
Ah, here's the guilt part. "You all suck and you're evil bastards and
you're going to hell and I'm really happy about that BUT I PRAY FOR YOU!
DON'T YOU FEEL BAD YET???"
Bugger off you silly twat. Try alt.atheism. They like your kind there
(with fresh rosemary and a quick pepper garnish).
Chris
macea...@astound.net
Logos wrote:
> This is it. This is good bye.
One down, many to go.
> I tried. I thought someone, just maybe one of you, might have a light bulb
> click on and get what I was trying to argue.
That's the problem, many people here do have a light bulb on. They
don't always react well to folks like you telling them to turn it off
and
be happy in the darkness.
> I thought some of the every-day thoughts and feelings from every-day people
> might make you understand my people and where we are coming from.
Never saw any of those, just some made up stories so obviously
fraudulant as to be laughable.
> Instead, you were more interested in assaulting my character, making me into
> a figure of fun, impugning my thoughts and words, twisting what I said to
> suit your caricatures.
No, you did all that yourself. When you really are a caricature
pointing it
out to you might be bad manners but at least it's truthful.
> You won't see me around here again. And I'm telling my associates about the
> quality of people to be found here: dogmatic, uncurious, more concerned
> about their culture of athiesm than about learning about G_d, the only true
> constant in the universe.
Yawn. One more ignorant fanatic gone claiming that what he says will
influence others.
> I've also prayed for all of you? Did you know that? So while all of you
> have called me hateful, awful and mean-hearted, I have given of myself to
> pray to G_d for all of you, hoping you would see the light one day. Maybe
> you still will one day. And if and/or when that day comes, I sure hope you
> remember me.
That's nice. I hold out no such hope that you will see the light and
seek to
cure your ignorance but who knows, miracles do happen. Though not the
kind you believe in.
VoiceOfReason
Logos wrote:
<...>
> And I'm telling my associates about the
> quality of people to be found here: dogmatic, uncurious, more concerned
> about their culture of athiesm than about learning about G_d, the only true
> constant in the universe.
Culture of athiesm? You didn't learn a thing here, did you?
Tiny Bulcher
Logos wrote:
> This is it. This is good bye.
>
> I tried. I thought someone, just maybe one of you, might have a light bulb
> click on and get what I was trying to argue.
>
> I thought some of the every-day thoughts and feelings from every-day people
> might make you understand my people and where we are coming from.
Every-day people? Those were every-day people? Those were your people?
Rhubarb. Now tell us who you really are.
--
Tiny
Inez
Logos wrote:
> This is it. This is good bye.
>
> I tried. I thought someone, just maybe one of you, might have a light bulb
> click on and get what I was trying to argue.
Did you try to argue something? I fear I missed that post. Or do you
consider "imagine Dawkins with a serpant shaped scepter" your idea of
an argument?
> I thought some of the every-day thoughts and feelings from every-day people
> might make you understand my people and where we are coming from.
>
I'm curious as to who "your people" are. Melodramatic highschool
thespians?
> Instead, you were more interested in assaulting my character,
Well yes, we did do that a bit.
> making me into a figure of fun,
That was all your doing.
> impugning my thoughts and words, twisting what I said to
> suit your caricatures.
Now here we see a classic case of projection. Perhaps you should read
your "evolutionist elite" post to see an extreme example of
caricatures.
>
> You won't see me around here again. And I'm telling my associates about the
> quality of people to be found here: dogmatic, uncurious, more concerned
> about their culture of athiesm than about learning about G_d, the only true
> constant in the universe.
>
I imagine they will cluck their tongues and shake their heads sadly.
Some may cry tears of rage.
> I've also prayed for all of you? Did you know that? So while all of you
> have called me hateful, awful and mean-hearted, I have given of myself to
> pray to G_d for all of you, hoping you would see the light one day. Maybe
> you still will one day.
Your mix of love and hatered is interesting, if pathological.
hbar...@troy.edu
leaving, do so without the fanfare. As for praying for me, how
contemptuously arrogant!
HB
MrSpooky
Geoff
news:ObidnVe0NcPKXV_e...@adelphia.com...
> This is it. This is good bye.
Schlong!
'Jaculator!
Arrivadouchebag!
George Cleveland
You're leaving in frustration? Or maybe this is why;
http://news.com.com/Create+an+e-annoyance,+go+to+jail/2010-1028_3-6022491.html
George Cleveland
Geoff
news:pan.2006.01.09....@is.invalid...
>
Cite! Cite! I want evidence that there are cultures that do not
require evidence to argue effectively!
jrs...@sbcglobal.net
of evolutionists as atheist, rapists, drug-dealing menaces. Good luck on
the irrational and daft preaching, though.
I guess people just didn't get Jim Jones either...
See ya!
JR
Mark VandeWettering
> This is it. This is good bye.
Aww...
> I tried. I thought someone, just maybe one of you, might have a light bulb
> click on and get what I was trying to argue.
That creationism makes people look stupid? Yeah, we got that.
> I thought some of the every-day thoughts and feelings from every-day people
> might make you understand my people and where we are coming from.
>
> Instead, you were more interested in assaulting my character, making me into
> a figure of fun, impugning my thoughts and words, twisting what I said to
> suit your caricatures.
Aww...
> You won't see me around here again. And I'm telling my associates about the
> quality of people to be found here: dogmatic, uncurious, more concerned
> about their culture of athiesm than about learning about G_d, the only true
> constant in the universe.
>
> I've also prayed for all of you?
Why did you end that with a question mark?
> Did you know that? So while all of you
> have called me hateful, awful and mean-hearted,
Come now, we've mostly just called you a fraud. Very few think you are
sincerely hateful, awful or mean-hearted.
> I have given of myself to
> pray to G_d for all of you, hoping you would see the light one day. Maybe
> you still will one day. And if and/or when that day comes, I sure hope you
> remember me.
Well, somehow that seems unlikely.
Mark
Mark VandeWettering
Not even how to spell "atheism".
Mark
mvil...@gmail.com
nmp wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 12:04:03 -0800, it was decided that MrSpooky should
> write:
>
>
If you're going to be debating science, it HAS to work that way.
And that transcends all cultures BTW.
Robert J. Kolker
>
> I've also prayed for all of you? Did you know that? So while all of you
> have called me hateful, awful and mean-hearted, I have given of myself to
> pray to G_d for all of you, hoping you would see the light one day. Maybe
> you still will one day. And if and/or when that day comes, I sure hope you
> remember me.
Don't let the door hit you on your way out.
Bob Kolker
JPG
>This is it. This is good bye.
And, in the words of Dave Allen, "May your G_d go with you"
unrestra...@hotmail.com
That's only for scientists and the people who think like them.
For other folks, emotions are the only way to go on subjects to which
they have committed themselves. Of course, any arguments other than
invective, patronizing lecturing, and sophomoric name-calling might
work better than Logos' methods.
So, I assume he'll be back in a couple of weeks with yet another name?
Kermit
Radix2
Logos wrote:
> This is it. This is good bye.
>
Damn. Where are we going to find a new village idiot at such short
notice?
'Bye.
eyelessgame
He doesn't have to cite any evidence -- he belongs to one of those
cultures, you see.
(just like I belong to a culture that freely asserts the gender of
unknown persons)
eyelessgame
unrestra...@hotmail.com
Logos wrote:
> This is it. This is good bye.
'K.
>
> I tried. I thought someone, just maybe one of you, might have a light bulb
> click on and get what I was trying to argue.
I thought you were arguing by example - that Creationists are
universally hateful idiots. I knew they weren't, so despite your very
good efforts, I remain unconvinced.
>
> I thought some of the every-day thoughts and feelings from every-day people
> might make you understand my people and where we are coming from.
An underfunded institution for the criminally insane?
Threatening someone because you know his thoughts?
Claiming that all scientists are rich, and living in poverty,
over-educated and functionally retarded, maintaining a conspiracy over
many generations and hundeds of countries, and universally atheist,
even when many claim to be Christian.
Etc.
>
> Instead, you were more interested in assaulting my character, making me into
> a figure of fun, impugning my thoughts and words, twisting what I said to
> suit your caricatures.
>
No, no, no. I assure you that we generally agree that no insult could
do you justice; we have merely tried to explain when you were being
rude (most of the time) or incorrect in claims of fact (all the rest of
the time).
> You won't see me around here again. And I'm telling my associates about the
> quality of people to be found here: dogmatic, uncurious, more concerned
> about their culture of athiesm than about learning about G_d, the only true
> constant in the universe.
So, you lie even to your own people, eh? Not all of us are atheist. If
a sane person were to work with scientists for any length of time,
she/he could work with them for months without knowing who had what
religious beliefs. It's not a typical subject at work for most people.
I work with "simple country folk", of which many must be evangelicals,
but I don't really know which ones. The subject doesn't come up. There
is no culture of atheism in science, nor in most workplaces. But
everyone knows who the obnoxious religious nut is. I'll give you a
hint: he's *not the one listening sympathetically when someone's
marriage is on the rocks, nor the one who offers to polish shoes for
the co-worker attending her dad's funeral.
>
> I've also prayed for all of you? Did you know that? So while all of you
> have called me hateful, awful and mean-hearted,
By their fruits shall ye know them.
> I have given of myself to
> pray to G_d for all of you,
And I have reasoned for you, Logos. But to no avail, alas! But I do
feel smarter. Do you feel more pious and more like a martyr?
> hoping you would see the light one day.
I learned some stuff over the weekend. Maybe more tonite. How about
you?
> Maybe
> you still will one day. And if and/or when that day comes, I sure hope you
> remember me.
"Who *was that masked man?"
"Who cares?"
Kermit
Bonfire of the Deities...
>>
> Cite! Cite! I want evidence that there are cultures that do not
> require evidence to argue effectively!
We are living in one. Look around you.
I have even been in an argument where my antagonist shouted at me: "Now
look, don't think you're going to win this argument by the use of
*reason*...!"
Bonf.
Ken Rode
> solid evidence, do they?
>
> I'll let you in on a secret. It's not just creationists. It's most
> people. If you appeal to their emotion, you have them in your pocket.
> Politicians know this, swindlers know this...
Isn't this part redundant?
Cheezits
> This is it. This is good bye.
Augh!!! Don't leave us! I'll take back all those mean things I said!
<grovel>
Sue
--
Stop wasting my time, you corn-fed man-cow! - The Simpsons
Tiny Bulcher
I think al is bucking for the position.
--
Tiny
Raymond Griffith
On 1/9/06 3:20 PM, in article
1136838028.6...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "VoiceOfReason"
<papa...@cybertown.com> wrote:
>
> Logos wrote:
>
> <...>
>
>> And I'm telling my associates about the
>> quality of people to be found here: dogmatic, uncurious, more concerned
>> about their culture of athiesm than about learning about G_d, the only true
>> constant in the universe.
>
> Culture of athiesm? You didn't learn a thing here, did you?
>
He did not come here to learn something. He thinks he knows it all. A head
that swollen with ego shouldn't be able to fit in an elevator.
Raymond E. Griffith
Bob Casanova
talk.origins, posted by "Logos" <as...@asd.asd>:
>This is it. This is good bye.
Write when you find cognition.
<snip>
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
z
Ye Old One
when s/he wrote:
>I thought we were debating origins, not science.
You can't really debate anything with out science.
--
Bob.
Greg G.
Logos wrote:
> This is it. This is good bye.
Before you go out into the world, there's something you should know.
That brown stuff you are sitting in is Sh_t. The stuff in the small can
is Sh_n_l_.
--
Greg G.
Today's agenda includes Catches 1 through 22.
AC
nmp <add...@is.invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 12:04:03 -0800, it was decided that MrSpooky should
> write:
>
>
>> Logos, did it ever occur to you that for an argument to be effective,
>> you're going to have to provide solid evidence and argue from an
>> epistemic foundation rather than one based on appeals to emotion?
>
> Cultural bias. In many cultures it does not work that way.
Well, some cultures may insist that it doesn't work this way, but the modern
world is built on *scientific* progress and not on inaccuracies, ignorance
and lies.
--
Aaron Clausen
mightym...@hotmail.com
A.Carlson
<ken.sha...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>Logos wrote:
>> This is it. This is good bye.
>>
>> I tried. I thought someone, just maybe one of you, might have a light bulb
>> click on and get what I was trying to argue.
>>
>> I thought some of the every-day thoughts and feelings from every-day people
>> might make you understand my people and where we are coming from.
>>
>> Instead, you were more interested in assaulting my character, making me into
>> a figure of fun, impugning my thoughts and words, twisting what I said to
>> suit your caricatures.
>>
>> You won't see me around here again. And I'm telling my associates about the
>> quality of people to be found here: dogmatic, uncurious, more concerned
>> about their culture of athiesm than about learning about G_d, the only true
>> constant in the universe.
>>
>> I've also prayed for all of you?
>
>Thanks for that.....but look what the prayers of almost a billion
>Catholics did for the last Pope.....
Finally put an end to his misery?
>> Did you know that? So while all of you
>> have called me hateful, awful and mean-hearted, I have given of myself to
>> pray to G_d for all of you, hoping you would see the light one day. Maybe
VoiceOfReason
You've never seen Congress at work, have you?
Inez
nmp wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 12:30:07 -0800, it was decided that Inez should write:
>
> > Logos wrote:
> >
> >> impugning my thoughts and words, twisting what I said to
> >> suit your caricatures.
> >
> > your "evolutionist elite" post to see an extreme example of
> > caricatures.
>
> I kind of liked the story where he tried to scare the guy with the coffee
> and the cell phone. You don't see such madness described in first person
> too often.
I enjoyed the one about the teacher stealing the child's soul.
*sigh.* I shall never again blurt our a denial of G_d's existance
while drinking a latte and voting for a democrat without thinking of
Logos.
rja.ca...@excite.com
G_l_s arrives tomorrow.
> 'Bye.
You wish.
VoiceOfReason
nmp wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 12:30:07 -0800, it was decided that Inez should write:
>
> > Logos wrote:
> >
> >> impugning my thoughts and words, twisting what I said to
> >> suit your caricatures.
> >
> > Now here we see a classic case of projection. Perhaps you should read
> > your "evolutionist elite" post to see an extreme example of
> > caricatures.
>
> I kind of liked the story where he tried to scare the guy with the coffee
> and the cell phone. You don't see such madness described in first person
> too often.
There's late-night movie material in there somewhere.
Thurisaz the Einherjer
> I tried. I thought someone, just maybe one of you, might have a light
> bulb click on and get what I was trying to argue.
Oh, we perfectly got what you were trying to argue. What you wanted to get
across was roughly "I'm a braindead cretinist idiot who has nothing but
lies and insults and who is too chicken to try and take on any challenge!".
> Instead, you were more interested in assaulting my character, making me
> into a figure of fun, impugning my thoughts and words, twisting what I
> said to suit your caricatures.
If one acts like an idiot, he better expect to be treated like one.
> You won't see me around here again.
Don't let the door hit your arse.
--
Romans 2:24 revised:
"For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you
cretinists, as it is written on aig."
Why I am not a christian:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus/nojebus
Geoff
news:I8Bwf.71767$uR.6...@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
Apparently my sarcasm didn't come through as clearly as intended.
Ross Langerak
"Logos" <as...@asd.asd> wrote in message
news:ObidnVe0NcPKXV_e...@adelphia.com...
> This is it. This is good bye.
>
bulb
> click on and get what I was trying to argue.
>
people
> might make you understand my people and where we are coming from.
>
into
> a figure of fun, impugning my thoughts and words, twisting what I said to
> suit your caricatures.
For those who are not familiar with the history of Logos posts, many
contributors provided evidence, links to evidence, and rational arguments.
Logos ignored all of it. Instead, he preferred to respond only to the
personal attacks.
Despite being corrected many, many, many times, Logos repeatedly made the
same errors. He equated evolution with atheism, repeated the claim that
there are no transitional fossils, and engaged in personal attacks on
Darwin, evolutionists, and atheists, while ignoring any evidence that
contradicted his prejudices. He seemed unable or unwilling to learn.
> You won't see me around here again. And I'm telling my associates about
the
> quality of people to be found here: dogmatic, uncurious, more concerned
> about their culture of athiesm than about learning about G_d, the only
true
> constant in the universe.
>
> I've also prayed for all of you? Did you know that? So while all of you
Shane
If it was the other way around yes, but not all swindlers are
politicians.
SeppoP
> This is it. This is good bye.
Yawn.
I'm sure everyone will feel utterly devastated.
--
Seppo P.
What's wrong with Theocracy? (a Finnish Taliban, Oct 1, 2005)
Bonfire of the Deities...
I missed it. Sorry.
Bonf.
Rolf
Logos <as...@asd.asd> skrev i
meldingsnyheter:ObidnVe0NcPKXV_e...@adelphia.com...
> This is it. This is good bye.
>
Good riddance. I think maybe your mission was doomed from the beginning: The
people here, perhaps even everywhere are not interested in learning about
G_d, whatever that may be. Nor do we care about understanding your people or
where you are coming from. I even believe, no, I really know yhay i know
much more about God, the true, the real one, the one and only, than you ever
will! So there, you miserable fanatic, so able at seeing the splinter in
your brothers eye, but quite incapable of detecting the huge beam in your
own.
But frankly, how could you expect anything else from us, than from yourself?
Have you shown any interest in learnign about us, where we come from, and
most important of all: When did you ever show any interest in learning even
the most basic facts about the ToE? Nothing, nil, nada. You simply keep
accusing anyone even remotely interested in the ToE of being a bloody
atheist.
Again, Good riddance
Rolf.
> I tried. I thought someone, just maybe one of you, might have a light
bulb
> click on and get what I was trying to argue.
>
> I thought some of the every-day thoughts and feelings from every-day
people
> might make you understand my people and where we are coming from.
>
> Instead, you were more interested in assaulting my character, making me
into
> a figure of fun, impugning my thoughts and words, twisting what I said to
> suit your caricatures.
>
Radix2
Rolf wrote:
<snips>
>. You simply keep accusing anyone even remotely interested in the ToE of being a bloody
> atheist.
No he didn't. People who disargreed were "athiests". Not once did he
understand that he was wrong.
rja.ca...@excite.com
> Logos <as...@asd.asd> skrev i
> meldingsnyheter:ObidnVe0NcPKXV_e...@adelphia.com...
> > This is it. This is good bye.
> >
>
> Good riddance. I think maybe your mission was doomed from the beginning: The
> people here, perhaps even everywhere are not interested in learning about
> G_d, whatever that may be. Nor do we care about understanding your people or
> where you are coming from. I even believe, no, I really know yhay i know
> much more about God, the true, the real one, the one and only, than you ever
> will!
That's quite a large statement. It's not clear that Logos is
irreligious - just possessed of poor judgment - and might he not get
better? Or does your God just not like people like Logos?
Geoff
No problem. It's a common problem when trying to communicate
sarcasm, etc. via the written word. People were much more adept
at it long ago e.g. 18th cy.
Glend
> You won't see me around here again. And I'm telling my associates about the
> quality of people to be found here: dogmatic, uncurious, more concerned
> about their culture of athiesm than about learning about G_d, the only true
> constant in the universe.
>
Here is your greatest problem. Many here, indeed probably most, are
interested in learning. They just aren't interested in your a priori
statements that God is the only true constant, and that discussion
depends upon accepting this "fact". If you could come up with some
evidence....
A good number here aren't even atheist. Such lack of regard for
honesty remains one of the reasons why you are not treated with
respect, "maligned" in your pathetic little mind.
Glen Davidson
http://tinyurl.com/b8ykm
Milan
"Logos" <as...@asd.asd> wrote in message
> This is it. This is good bye.
>
bulb
> click on and get what I was trying to argue.
>
> I thought some of the every-day thoughts and feelings from every-day
people
> might make you understand my people and where we are coming from.
>
> Instead, you were more interested in assaulting my character, making me
into
> a figure of fun, impugning my thoughts and words, twisting what I said to
> suit your caricatures.
>
the
> quality of people to be found here: dogmatic, uncurious, more concerned
> about their culture of athiesm than about learning about G_d, the only
true
> constant in the universe.
>
> have called me hateful, awful and mean-hearted, I have given of myself to
> pray to G_d for all of you, hoping you would see the light one day. Maybe
> you still will one day. And if and/or when that day comes, I sure hope
you
> remember me.
We will remember you. But we will always hold in our hearts the doubt
whether to remember you as a complete imbecile or as an annoying troll.
Probably we will never know the truth.
regards
Milan
>
Patrick James
(in article <42icrdF...@individual.net>):
I think that he's _both_ a complete imbecile _and_ an annoying troll.
--
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Ernest Major
"rja.ca...@excite.com" <rja.ca...@excite.com> writes
subject for trollery. Tho', I suppose, he could be a Buddhist or a
neopagan, or something. But my guess would be apatheist.
--
alias Ernest Major
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Joe Cummings
>This is it. This is good bye.
>
>I tried. I thought someone, just maybe one of you, might have a light bulb
>click on and get what I was trying to argue.
>
>I thought some of the every-day thoughts and feelings from every-day people
>might make you understand my people and where we are coming from.
>
>Instead, you were more interested in assaulting my character, making me into
>a figure of fun, impugning my thoughts and words, twisting what I said to
>suit your caricatures.
>
>You won't see me around here again. And I'm telling my associates about the
>quality of people to be found here: dogmatic, uncurious, more concerned
>about their culture of athiesm than about learning about G_d, the only true
>constant in the universe.
>
>I've also prayed for all of you? Did you know that? So while all of you
>have called me hateful, awful and mean-hearted, I have given of myself to
>pray to G_d for all of you, hoping you would see the light one day. Maybe
>you still will one day. And if and/or when that day comes, I sure hope you
>remember me. I'm sorry to see Logos disappear.
I'm sorry to see Logos go. I don't know why he's going.
But before he finally disappears, perhaps it would be useful
to say why I wrote "The Logos Anals."
Logos's contributions in T.O. have consisted of a series of
little stories with caricatures of "athiests" and "secularists."
I riposted with a little story about some caricatures of
"Christians."
I don't have the gift of second sight, but I anticipated that
Logos wouldn't see the symmetry between our sets of stories, so I made
his pappy into a person who, whilst feeling outraged about his wife's
behaviour, was utterly unable to see that his own behaviour was just
as bad.
Now the tragedy of Logos is that he hasn't tried to defend his
position. He hasn't put it on the line and invited criticism so that
he could answer his opponents.
This isn't uncommon among creationists - in fact, I think the
most egregious fault of our creationist friends is that they make a
staement that is challenged, proceed to ignore the challenge, and
then repeat the original statement as if it had never been challenged.
I think this applies to nearly everyone in the creationist
camp.
I think the only creationist who tries to take on criticisms
is our friend Zoe, and she has to concede points from time to time.
So my message to Logos is; "stay on and change your style of
writing."
Have fun,
Joe Cummings
>
Mark Isaak
>This is it. This is good bye.
>
>I tried. I thought someone, just maybe one of you, might have a light bulb
>click on and get what I was trying to argue.
>
>I thought some of the every-day thoughts and feelings from every-day people
>might make you understand my people and where we are coming from.
>
>Instead, you were more interested in assaulting my character, making me into
>a figure of fun, impugning my thoughts and words, twisting what I said to
>suit your caricatures.
>
>You won't see me around here again. And I'm telling my associates about the
>quality of people to be found here: dogmatic, uncurious, more concerned
>about their culture of athiesm than about learning about G_d, the only true
>constant in the universe.
>
>I've also prayed for all of you? Did you know that? So while all of you
>have called me hateful, awful and mean-hearted, I have given of myself to
>pray to G_d for all of you, hoping you would see the light one day. Maybe
>you still will one day. And if and/or when that day comes, I sure hope you
>remember me.
If the problem is all in the other people, that means there is no hope
for you, because you can only change you.
--
Mark Isaak eciton (at) earthlink (dot) net
"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of
the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are
being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and
exposing the country to danger." -- Hermann Goering
rja.ca...@excite.com
...apparently.
The whole loki question remains unanswered.
But why are we talking about him in the past tense? The assassin has
not yet reported back to our secret headquarters. Logos may have
escaped.
rupert....@gmail.com
Logos wrote:
> This is it. This is good bye.
>
> I tried. I thought someone, just maybe one of you, might have a light bulb
> click on and get what I was trying to argue.
>
> I thought some of the every-day thoughts and feelings from every-day people
> might make you understand my people and where we are coming from.
>
> Instead, you were more interested in assaulting my character, making me into
> a figure of fun, impugning my thoughts and words, twisting what I said to
> suit your caricatures.
>
> You won't see me around here again. And I'm telling my associates about the
> quality of people to be found here: dogmatic, uncurious, more concerned
> about their culture of athiesm than about learning about G_d, the only true
> constant in the universe.
>
> I've also prayed for all of you? Did you know that? So while all of you
> have called me hateful, awful and mean-hearted, I have given of myself to
> pray to G_d for all of you, hoping you would see the light one day. Maybe
> you still will one day. And if and/or when that day comes, I sure hope you
> remember me.
I will remember you. Every time I celebrate Christmas[1] in my crack
house[2].
I do hope you get better soon.
[1] One of Logos' "proofs against evolution" was that atheists
celebrate Christmas
[2] Logos posted a delightful little story in which he rescued a child
from his secularist parents who lived in a crack house.
Earle Jones
"Radix2" <dy...@tcg.com.au> wrote:
*
My father was athey. My big brother was even athier. But I am the
athiest of all.
earle
*