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AjD

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May 16, 1994, 3:11:42 PM5/16/94
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In article <940516052...@cml.rice.edu>
and...@cml.rice.edu (Andrew Solberg) writes:
>"I liked it," replied Brett, "and I always have. I guess I'm the
>only one who enjoyed it?"
>
>I backpedalled. "Well, the main thing that bugged me was the Artsy Woman
>who made silly artistic distinctions. She claimed that one of the paintings
>was more tranquil than the others."
>
>"That would be the one on the South wall," replied Brett. He was referring
>to the same painting Artsy Woman had liked.
>
>"My God!" I said, truly thunderstruck. With a mounting sense of awe and
>terror, I lurched around the front of the Rothko for a few moments.
>
>"It actually MEANS something!"

in a parallel event, during merde's
visit to points mid-continental
in her trip from coast to coast,
she established that in talk.bizarre,
you either get it or you don't.

in faaahn aaht, you either get it
or you don't. while this is most
fundamentally true in cases of rothko
and mondrian and ilk, it can be extended
as a general case not only to other
abstract artists but to the realm
of painting and sculpture and what-
have-you under the umbrella of 'aaht'.

in my case, i grok rembrandt but don't
get rubens at all.

AjD
mondrian not rothko,
tansy not koons,
and ruscha maybe
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Eric Scheirer

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May 16, 1994, 4:06:46 PM5/16/94
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>>>>> "AjD" == AjD <a...@oit.itd.umich.edu> writes:

AjD> in my case, i grok rembrandt but don't get rubens at all.

Hell, what's to get? You go, you look, you get a stiffie. Nothing
to it.

Just call me aaht-boy.

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Mike McNally

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May 16, 1994, 5:13:28 PM5/16/94
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a...@oit.itd.umich.edu (AjD) writes:
>rothko and mondrian and ilk...

Hmm...

I didn't sit through 18 stinkin' hours of art history to sit idly
by while somebody lumps Rothko and Mondrian into one sloppy ilk.

I would suggest "Rothko and Gottlieb and ilk" or perhaps "Rothko
and Still and ilk" or even "Rothko and Motherwell and ilk", but
Mondrian? Beyond the rectangular schtick, it's like night and day.

An ilk is only so big, after all.

Thank you. I feel better now, and less like I wasted (18*$x00/c.h.).

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AjD

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May 16, 1994, 9:45:15 PM5/16/94
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In article <m5.769122808@vail> m...@tivoli.com writes:
>a...@oit.itd.umich.edu (AjD) writes:
>>rothko and mondrian and ilk...
>I didn't sit through 18 stinkin' hours of art history to sit idly
>by while somebody lumps Rothko and Mondrian into one sloppy ilk.
>I would suggest "Rothko and Gottlieb and ilk" or perhaps "Rothko
>and Still and ilk" or even "Rothko and Motherwell and ilk", but
>Mondrian? Beyond the rectangular schtick, it's like night and day.

yo baby,

if i were to, say, use an allusive device to sum-up not only the
influence of the abstract expressionists but the entire realm of
abstract painting from the first inklings in the impressionists
to the present -- as we know its popular form -- i would want to
sum-up in two names the formal, nearly mechanical, influences that
abstract art can convey on the one hand (i could _almost_ have easily
used leger or pick-a-cubist, or dive deep into the futurists or
vorticists for examples), and the intimate humanism that abstract art
can convey on the other hand.

more broadly, even pictorialist painters have conceptual bases that
speak more readily to some people than others; some might 'get'
holbein and not ingres, even though they've both done nice paintings
that match the couch.

so i claim a paucity of verbiage has crippled the examples i tried
to make. i hope that this overexplanation can help to cut through
the semantic differences we share and cast a greater cloud over our
understanding of art, not only in the twentieth century but for all
time.

AjD

Bradley P. Allen

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May 16, 1994, 11:17:37 PM5/16/94
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In article <940516052...@cml.rice.edu>
and...@cml.rice.edu (Andrew Solberg) writes:

[...]


>"My God!" I said, truly thunderstruck. With a mounting sense of awe and
>terror, I lurched around the front of the Rothko for a few moments.
>
>"It actually MEANS something!"

[...]


in faaahn aaht, you either get it
or you don't. while this is most
fundamentally true in cases of rothko
and mondrian and ilk, it can be extended

Once I went to the Guggenheim for a Rothko retrospective. The paintings
were all displayed in chronological order.

As one spiraled downward from the top of the building, the brightly
colored realism of youth became the abstract expressionism of
maturity, which as the descent continued became increasingly somber,
plunging from earth tones down to reds and blacks, then down to grays
and blacks, and finally, at the bottom, in the work just prior to his
suicide, black on black.

I got it. I think.

- BPA

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Weihnachtsfrosch

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May 17, 1994, 8:31:05 AM5/17/94
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In article <m5.769122808@vail>, Mike McNally <m...@tivoli.com> wrote:

>An ilk is only so big, after all.

pshaw. anyone who's ever been to Montana can tell you that if you
take the carcass of an ilk, gut it and skin it, you can make enough
stew to feed everyone in town.

jkc

Sho Kuwamoto

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May 17, 1994, 11:28:08 AM5/17/94
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a...@oit.itd.umich.edu (AjD) writes:
>mondrian not rothko,

Boo.

-Sho
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Euripedes

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May 18, 1994, 1:14:12 PM5/18/94
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In article <BPA.94Ma...@netcom.netcom.com>, b...@netcom.netcom.com (Bradley P. Allen) says:
>
>

>As one spiraled downward from the top of the building, the brightly
>colored realism of youth became the abstract expressionism of
>maturity, which as the descent continued became increasingly somber,
>plunging from earth tones down to reds and blacks, then down to grays
>and blacks, and finally, at the bottom, in the work just prior to his
>suicide, black on black.
>

Kinda just sums up life, don't you think?
When you get to the bottom, the last thing you see
is a shallow pool of wet change. Just what the good
ol' government has waiting for us. Probably better
off just plucking the gold fish out and swallowing
them whole. What really got me was the time
I saw a set of dentures in it....

St Theresa of the Net

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May 21, 1994, 3:05:56 PM5/21/94
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In article <EDS.94Ma...@vivaldi.media.mit.edu> e...@vivaldi.media.mit.edu (Eric Scheirer) writes:
>Just call me aaht-boy.

heh. Aaht boy? from the town with Aaht in the Baaht?

And Pohtah Squeah Staah Maahket? Hm.


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Tom Hopkins

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May 21, 1994, 6:37:58 PM5/21/94
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In article <2rlm2k...@uwm.edu>, te...@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (St Theresa of the Net) writes:

> heh. Aaht boy? from the town with Aaht in the Baaht?

> And Pohtah Squeah Staah Maahket? Hm.

Silly pehson, Pohtah Squayah is on the Hahvahd side of the Chahlz,
which is naht Bahston. Could you be thinking of Kenmoah, oah maybe
Pahk Street?

-Tom Hopkins
Anyway, that sounds more like a New Youck accent to me.

Eric Scheirer

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May 22, 1994, 12:02:59 PM5/22/94
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>>>>> "St. Terri" == St Theresa of the Net <te...@csd4.csd.uwm.edu> writes:

St. Terri> In article <EDS.94Ma...@vivaldi.media.mit.edu>


St. Terri> e...@vivaldi.media.mit.edu (Eric Scheirer) writes:
>> Just call me aaht-boy.

St. Terri> heh. Aaht boy? from the town with Aaht in the Baaht?

St. Terri> And Pohtah Squeah Staah Maahket? Hm.

True Baaaaston Story:

Went grocery shopping yesterday. At the Portuh Squayah Staah Maaket, no
less. I've recently begun pre-minced garlic in those little convenient
jars until which time as I purchase a garlic press that can be cleaned
in finite time. (Yes, don't bother, I know I am a heathen).

So I go up to the clerk, and I says, holding my hands in the appropriate
"little jar" gesture, "Do you have garlic in those little jars?"

He turns around. "Hey Chaaaaalie! Do we have gaaaaalic in little jaaaaaas?"

I barely manage to restrain myself from ejecting a lung through my nose.

Lefty

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May 24, 1994, 8:46:05 PM5/24/94
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In article <HOPPIE.94M...@nemesis.EBay.Sun.COM>,

hop...@nemesis.EBay.Sun.COM (Tom Hopkins) wrote:
>
> Anyway, that sounds more like a New Youck accent to me.

That's "Noo Yawk".

Not to be confused with "Gnu Yuck".

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