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Mandrachtoff R P

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May 12, 2013, 5:36:43 PM5/12/13
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Job asks if man can be greater than God.

In this book, God comes across as a simpleton, wagering against Satan
for no mentioned prize. Job has eight thousand horses, eight thousand
cattle, eight thousand sheep and so on, and Satan said, what if he lost
it all, and God says, alright let's try this.

Nikolai Kingsley

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May 12, 2013, 9:53:19 PM5/12/13
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> In this book, God comes across as a simpleton, wagering against Satan
> for no mentioned prize. Job has eight thousand horses, eight thousand
> cattle, eight thousand sheep and so on, and Satan said, what if he lost
> it all, and God says, alright let's try this.


God thought to himself: he's going to lose it anyway. might as well have
some fun with it.

then EA brought out a new version requiring God to be online all the time.

Mandrachtoff R P

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May 13, 2013, 11:04:25 AM5/13/13
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It was my understanding that Satan caused Job to lose it all, by God's
permission.

Julian

Nikolai Kingsley

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May 13, 2013, 9:15:01 PM5/13/13
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>> God thought to himself: he's going to lose it anyway. might as well have
>> some fun with it.
>>
>> then EA brought out a new version requiring God to be online all the
>> time.
>
> It was my understanding that Satan caused Job to lose it all, by God's
> permission.


God created Satan.

Mandrachtoff R P

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May 13, 2013, 9:47:31 PM5/13/13
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I don't think God ever claims to be able to predict what His creations
will do. Heh heh will.

Nikolai Kingsley

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May 13, 2013, 11:15:13 PM5/13/13
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> I don't think God ever claims to be able to predict what His creations
> will do. Heh heh will.



then god is not omniscient, and is therefore undeserving of worship.

--
PRAISE "Bob"!

Mandrachtoff R P

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May 14, 2013, 6:56:08 AM5/14/13
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I disagree.

omniscient: possessed of universal or complete knowledge

universal is spatial. Not temporal. If I knew everything that is in the
universe, I would be omniscient. It does not say anything about
knowledge of the way things are four days from now.

One of the classical examples is that most theologians maintain that God
can predict die rolls.

Through a practised hand, this could be accomplished. The attitude of
someone, the leaning of their muscle extensions, knowledge of surfaces
and polyhedrons, observed over millenia could allow perfection of this
skill.

Ask a theologian if He can predict the die rolls of an
extra-terrestrial. Or even a dog.

Julian

Mandrachtoff R P

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May 14, 2013, 6:57:22 AM5/14/13
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I meant tens of millenia.

Julian

Alan P. Scott

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May 17, 2013, 3:22:29 AM5/17/13
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God never said "alright." He may have said "all right." Ungrammar is from
Satan. God is never, ever wrong about things like this.*

--
Alan P. Scott..................http://www.pacifier.com/~ascott/apshome.htm
"We were too young for LSD--now we're too old for MTV."
--Dashboard Saviors, "GI Joe", _Kitty_
* Except that one time.

Nikolai Kingsley

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May 17, 2013, 9:10:52 AM5/17/13
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> God never said "alright." He may have said "all right." Ungrammar is from
> Satan. God is never, ever wrong about things like this.*


" ... The folks in Teddy, Tennessee, a small town in east Tennessee
don't like talking like they was raised ignorant. But once the Devil
comes around there isn't much anyone can do. "People say "ain't" and
"twas" and they sentences plum ungrammatical," said Patty Blossom.
"Can't understand nobody no how. What they saying come out all wrong?
They skewed up the language. Every sentence they speak got a bad thing
about it. Break all the rules of grammar and some they don't have rules
for."

"Causing bad grammar by supernatural means," said Bill Orwell, "should
be against the law." I heard somebody say the other day: But, if I'da
knowed you'da want to went, or come back, I'da seed you'da got to get to
go."

"Bad grammar can humiliate and belittle you. Make you feel smaller than
a toady frog. Which is what the Devil had in mine."


--
and so forth

Alan P. Scott

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May 17, 2013, 9:47:30 AM5/17/13
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Nikolai Kingsley <sher...@netspace.net.au> wrote:

>> God never said "alright." He may have said "all right." Ungrammar is from
>> Satan. God is never, ever wrong about things like this.*


> " ... The folks in Teddy, Tennessee, a small town in east Tennessee
> don't like talking like they was raised ignorant. But once the Devil
> comes around there isn't much anyone can do. "People say "ain't" and
> "twas" and they sentences plum ungrammatical," said Patty Blossom.
[...]
> "Bad grammar can humiliate and belittle you. Make you feel smaller than
> a toady frog. Which is what the Devil had in mine."

Nah... I was just messin' with y'all. God always uses the vernacular of
His chosen agents, the better to maintain plausible deniability about His
very existence.


The Eleventh Commandment was:
JK. LOL. HTH. HAND. JHWH

but it got trimmed by His posting software.

--
Alan P. Scott..................http://www.pacifier.com/~ascott/apshome.htm
"Only the weak are sent out on paths without perils."
--Herman Hesse, _Magister Ludi_

Mandrachtoff R P

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May 17, 2013, 12:37:56 PM5/17/13
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On 5/17/2013 7:47 AM, Alan P. Scott wrote:
> Nikolai Kingsley <sher...@netspace.net.au> wrote:
>
>>> God never said "alright." He may have said "all right." Ungrammar is from
>>> Satan. God is never, ever wrong about things like this.*
>
>
>> " ... The folks in Teddy, Tennessee, a small town in east Tennessee
>> don't like talking like they was raised ignorant. But once the Devil
>> comes around there isn't much anyone can do. "People say "ain't" and
>> "twas" and they sentences plum ungrammatical," said Patty Blossom.
> [...]
>> "Bad grammar can humiliate and belittle you. Make you feel smaller than
>> a toady frog. Which is what the Devil had in mine."
>
> Nah... I was just messin' with y'all. God always uses the vernacular of
> His chosen agents, the better to maintain plausible deniability about His
> very existence.
>
>
> The Eleventh Commandment was:
> JK. LOL. HTH. HAND. JHWH
>
> but it got trimmed by His posting software.
>

God tells Noah to bring 14 of each of the not unclean animals, yet
doesn't inform Noah what unclean means until Leviticus.

--
Julian

euclid

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May 17, 2013, 5:47:20 PM5/17/13
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On Friday, May 17, 2013 9:10:52 AM UTC-4, Nikolai Kingsley wrote:
>
>
> "Bad grammar can humiliate and belittle you. Make you feel smaller than
> a toady frog. Which is what the Devil had in mine."

Of course, the toady frog happens to be a simpering, fawning dude from Nancy who weighs in at 220 lbs, so that's not especially hard to do.

euclid

euclid

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May 17, 2013, 7:11:39 PM5/17/13
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On Friday, May 17, 2013 9:10:52 AM UTC-4, Nikolai Kingsley wrote:

> "Causing bad grammar by supernatural means," said Bill Orwell, "should
> be against the law." I heard somebody say the other day: But, if I'da
> knowed you'da want to went, or come back, I'da seed you'da got to get to
> go."

And yet I saw, some years ago, a person, whose name and memory I have in
very great esteem, in the very height of our great disorders, when there
was neither law nor justice, nor magistrate who performed his office, no
more than there is now, publish I know not what pitiful reformations
about cloths, cookery, and law chicanery. Those are amusements wherewith
to feed a people that are ill-used, to show that they are not totally
forgotten. Those others do the same, who insist upon prohibiting
particular ways of speaking, dances, and games, to a people totally
abandoned to all sorts of execrable vices.

---Montaigne

Nikolai Kingsley

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May 17, 2013, 11:43:59 PM5/17/13
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>> "Bad grammar can humiliate and belittle you. Make you feel smaller than
>> a toady frog. Which is what the Devil had in mine."
>
> Of course, the toady frog happens to be a simpering, fawning dude from
> Nancy who weighs in at 220 lbs, so that's not especially hard to do.



but man, can he sing and dance! here, let me get him out of this box.


well, he was dancing like Ray Bolger on the hood of a car in a traffic
jam a few minutes ago. come on, frog, dance! you're making me look bad.

--
Every babe
And Jane
And Ruth

They're all
Walking to Duluth
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