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awais.n...@gmail.com

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May 16, 2008, 2:34:32 AM5/16/08
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SECULAR EVIDENCE (THAT GOD EXISTS):

Earth is 4.54-billion years old [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Age_of_the_Earth].

Socalled Homo-sapiens, i.e. socalled modern humans, came about 200-
thousand years ago [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_sapiens].

Summarians, first civilization ever, which "SUDDENLY" discovered the
followingp[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumer]:
first social community in Middle EasT,
first ffarming,
first irrigation,
first baskets,
first wheels,
first carts,
first boats,
first wind-mills,
first clocks,
first sundials,
first predicting moon-tides,
first mathematics base of 60,
first writing, first farming,
first fishing,
first domesticating-animals,
first deforestation,
first plough-harvesting-crops,
first potter-wheel-pottery,
first simple pottery,
first astronomers, first city-state,
first known codified legal and administrative systems,
first coal use, first wine, first tool-usage signs,
first-time special workforce use for irrigation,
first pottery, first use of metals,
etc.
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerians]


Ice Age never stopped human development, because Equator never faced
the Ice.

If incest continues of 8 generations, then the people becomes
different from eachother, as if they belong to different races.

Conclusion: God created Major Species' Genes seperately,
chronologically, invertebrates, then vertebrates and subkinds; called
as MAJOR EVOLUTION, e.g. Birds and Reptiles were created seperately.
MINOR EVOLUTION explains the variations within the Specie, e.g.
between horses/zebras.

Conclusion: Above argument only proves that God exists, because if,
humans had been on Earth with the mental/physical abilites which today
we have, about 200-thousand years ago, then we would be, by now,
colonising other planets. Now the qusteion is, is that God really
interested in us? Yes, God is indeed interested in us through
Messengership (www.awais-nazir.biz).

RELIGIOUS EVIDENCE (THAT GOD EXISTS, AND REALLY INTERESTED IN
HUMANS):

All Major Religions teach: Oneness Of God (yes, hindus believe in ONE
GOD, but many forms of that god) and MESSENGERSHIP i.e. God
communicated with humanity through messengers, and that BOOKS/ORAL-
MESSAGES were revealed to his messengers.

God send the next messengership to update the previous messengership
after it has been corrupted beyond recognition.

All Major Messengerships/religions are awaiting for their last
messenger, Jews are awaiting for their "warrior messenger", Christians
are awaiting for their "that prophet" who will come after Jesus,
Hindus are awaiting for their "Kalki Avatar".

Bible is Consistant, proves God. Thus, if Bible was the confusion
word, then it should have said that messenger will arise from Assyria
also, and Egypt also, Arab also, etc. But, I have read all Bible, and
found that messenger will arise, every time, from the offspring of
Ishmael i.e. "Arabs", and they will be from "Arabian Peninsula", and
that they will be a "warrior nation".

Bible/Quran originals exist today, carbon-dating to era before
Muhammad. Thus it can't be said that muslims corrupted the Bible for
their own sake.

I have read whole Bible, and whenever a future messengers is
predicted, then in 90% cases, it is Muhammad; this can't be a chance.
Such prophesies are elaborated at: www.awais-nazir.biz.

Lastly, Quran.2.35-39 implies that, when God expelled the first man
from Paradise to Earth, God intended only (mainly) messengership, as a
source of guidance, not any thing else (e.g. Science/logic/etc.) as
the prove that the particular message is really from God.

For a complete list of Parsi/Hindu/Biblical Messengerships: www.awais-nazir.biz

CONCLUSION:

What if God is purposely hiding from us, for some reason? Atheists
should think on it.

Charles & Mambo Duckman

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May 16, 2008, 2:59:19 AM5/16/08
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Wow!!! You are absolutely right! I mean, we're obviously not colonizing
other planets, so this can only mean that God exists.
I think you clinched this. Next stop: Nobel prize committee.

Fair enough. Let me "think on it"... No, you're still full of shit.

Better luck next time, moron.

Btw, is your god a fucking five year old? Still playing hide-and-seek,
pissing in his bed, afraid he'll catch the cooties from girls?

Grow the fuck up, silly man.


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Richard Anacker

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May 16, 2008, 7:27:01 AM5/16/08
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Sers awais.n...@gmail.com et all

awais.n...@gmail.com schrieb:

> God send the next messengership to update the previous messengership
> after it has been corrupted beyond recognition.

ROTFLMFAO

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Adonis

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May 16, 2008, 8:30:53 AM5/16/08
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<snip>

>
> CONCLUSION:
>
> What if God is purposely hiding from us, for some reason? Atheists
> should think on it.

You mean like a game of hide and seek? This god has hidden it's self real good
then! We went to the moon and it was not there.

meg

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May 16, 2008, 3:03:42 PM5/16/08
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Lets see, I think, therefore there must be a god. Gee, damned if if I
can argue with that. Like talking to a tree, duh; it grows in the
ground, therefore there must be a god. You should do some exercises,
the sphincter muscle is a little tight around your neck and cutting
the flow of blood to the brain.

Sirius

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May 17, 2008, 1:10:15 AM5/17/08
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On Thu, 15 May 2008 23:34:32 -0700, awais.nazir.ch wrote :

> SECULAR EVIDENCE (THAT GOD EXISTS):
>
> Earth is 4.54-billion years old [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> Age_of_the_Earth].
>
> Socalled Homo-sapiens, i.e. socalled modern humans, came about 200-
> thousand years ago [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_sapiens].
>
> Summarians, first civilization ever, which "SUDDENLY" discovered the
> followingp[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumer]: first social community
> in Middle EasT, first ffarming,
> first irrigation,
> first baskets,

[...]

Ever eared of ancient chinese civilizations 9000 BC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peiligang_culture
Political organisation, millet culture, pig raising, pottery making,
before Summer.

So you must conclude that Taoism is superior.
Conclusion : a proof there is no god

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism
Taoism theology emphasizes various themes found in the Tao Te Ching and
Zhuangzi, such as naturalness, vitality, peace, "non-action" (wu wei),
emptiness (refinement), detachment, the strength of softness (or
flexibility), receptiveness, spontaneity, the relativism of human ways of
life, ways of speaking and guiding behavior.

> [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerians]
>
>
> Ice Age never stopped human development, because Equator never faced the
> Ice.
>

> CONCLUSION:

awais.n...@gmail.com

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May 17, 2008, 2:14:54 AM5/17/08
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What if God is purposely hiding from us, for some reason? Atheists
should think on it. Quran.2.35-39 implies that, God ( will not show
himself), but whoever will follow the

messengership of his time, him God will will save; these are
instructions which God gave to Adam.

Reason there is pain in this world? Messengership says that, God wants
to make the signs for

recognizing God as neutral, otherwise it is no test, and the purpose
of temporal worldly life is

void.

Messengership says that, sincerity is the weighiest element, even if
one couldn't find the

messengership of his time, God will save him for his sincerity.

Last but not least: I know how original Islam is hijacked by the arab
culture. In the remainig

book of mine, (www.awais-nazir.biz), I will show how Islam is the
simplest of all, including:
Attaining higher of the two paradises.
Celebrating Birthdays/etc is Optional.
Prefering either of right/left hand, is Optional.
Fate is God's simulation, i.e. as mother can predict the behavior of
her child.
Moral issues, i.e. miserliness/extravagency/lying/etc are Optional;
they should not be handled by

religion, but by secular measures, because whenever religion involves
in something then it can't

be solved.
Smoking is Optional.
Doing 'Salam' To Non-muslims, Is Optional.
Music/dogs/etc are Optional, to hear/keep.
Salat is not 5, but 2 times a day, i.e. sunrise/sunset.
There is no usury/interest, if the exchange is in different
commodities.
Women Leading Salat/Country, Is Optional.
Keeping Beard, Is Optional.
Clothes are secular, not religous, matter.
Stealing, killing, suicide, etc, are Major Sins; but Minor Sins are no
sin.
Calamities Fall Equally On Believers/Nonbelievers.


I HOPE THE ABOVE INFO PROBABLY IS NERVE-WRECKING. IF ONE IS STILL NOT
CONVINCED, I HOPE THAT SOMEWHERE IN HIS FUTURE LIFE, HE WILL.

Charles & Mambo Duckman

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May 17, 2008, 2:36:27 AM5/17/08
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awais.n...@gmail.com wrote:
> What if God is purposely hiding from us, for some reason?

You're right. The fucker is so old by now that his ass is hanging even lower
than his ballsack. I'd hide, too, if I were him.

> Messengership says that, sincerity is the weighiest element

Yeah? How many protons in sinceritium?

> Attaining higher of the two paradises.

Which one has an open bar?

> Celebrating Birthdays/etc is Optional.

Are gifts mandatory?

> Prefering either of right/left hand, is Optional.

To do what with it? Nudge, nudge, wink, wink?

> Fate is God's simulation, i.e. as mother can predict the behavior of
> her child.
> Moral issues, i.e. miserliness/extravagency/lying/etc are Optional;

Shit. How much for the lying option? They always get you on options. Bastards.

> Smoking is Optional.

Smoking what? Pot? Salmon? Jacket?

> Doing 'Salam' To Non-muslims, Is Optional.

Is Salam a euphemism for fucking?

> Music/dogs/etc are Optional, to hear/keep.

Can I keep the music and hear the dog instead?

> Salat is not 5, but 2 times a day, i.e. sunrise/sunset.

What kind of salat? I like Caesar, although twice a day is too much. Wait,
salat is another euphemism for fucking, isn't it? In that case, make it 5.

> There is no usury/interest, if the exchange is in different
> commodities.

Is Muslim pussy a commodity?

> Women Leading Salat/Country, Is Optional.

It should be mandatory. I love it when women "lead salat". Yeah!!!

> Keeping Beard, Is Optional.

Where should one keep it? I have a spare jar. Is that OK?

> Clothes are secular, not religous, matter.

Good. There should be a separation between women and their clothing.

> Stealing, killing, suicide, etc, are Major Sins; but Minor Sins are no
> sin.

Shit. Why can't these be optional?


> I HOPE THE ABOVE INFO PROBABLY IS NERVE-WRECKING. IF ONE IS STILL NOT
> CONVINCED, I HOPE THAT SOMEWHERE IN HIS FUTURE LIFE, HE WILL.


Thanks for writing. Feel free to wipe your ass in our newsgroup any time.

Christopher A. Lee

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May 17, 2008, 9:22:06 AM5/17/08
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On Fri, 16 May 2008 23:14:54 -0700 (PDT), awais.n...@gmail.com
wrote:

>
>What if God is purposely hiding from us, for some reason? Atheists
>should think on it. Quran.2.35-39 implies that, God ( will not show
>himself), but whoever will follow the

What if this moron showed some courtesy instead of wiping his
question-begging stupidity in everybody's faces?

And who gives a flying fuck what something as irrelevant as the Quran
has to say?

All it is fit for is to wipe the shit off one's arse.

Does this psychopath not realise just how much his religion is
disliked for things like 9/11, its treatment of women, etc?

And does he seriously think his in-your-face rudeness will make it
disliked any less?

Barry OGrady

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May 17, 2008, 9:25:26 AM5/17/08
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On Fri, 16 May 2008 23:14:54 -0700 (PDT), awais.n...@gmail.com wrote:

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Barry
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Thom Madura

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May 17, 2008, 10:47:10 AM5/17/08
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1 - There was no Garden of Eden - no Adam - no Eve - all Myth.

2 - Islam is just as morally inept as every other religion. I have yet
to see the leaders of the religion come out and tell their followers NOT
TO listen to the terrorists and to live as you say. The leaders have
over 1 Billion followers - they surely have the power to do so.

3 - Islam continues to treat women in unspeakable ways - instead of as
equals - and that will be the eventual undoing of that religion.

Ben Goren

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May 17, 2008, 11:31:32 AM5/17/08
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awais.n...@gmail.com wrote:

> What if God is purposely hiding from us, for some reason?

So, what you're trying to tell us is that your god is that stupid
smelly kid who nobody wants to play with? You know, the one
who always gets excited because nobody can ever find him at
hide-n-seek? Hours later, he stumbles out of his hiding place,
hungry and dirty...and wondering where everybody else went....

And you think he's all cool and hip?

Oh, wait -- I get it, now. *You're* the smelly kid, and you're
your own god.

Sorry, dude. No, we're not going to play this new game of
yours. It's totally lame. And you still smell.

> Atheists should think on it.

We have. Much more than you, in fact. That's exactly why we've
long since stopped believing in the monsters under the bed.

If you think on it, you might even grow up to become an atheist,
yourself.

But don't expect us to let you join any of our cool games,
though. You still need a bath, in the worst way.

> Quran.2.35-39 implies that, God ( will not show himself), but
> whoever will follow the messengership of his time, him God will
> will save; these are instructions which God gave to Adam.

Fuck your messenger and the horse he flew off on.

Cheers,

b&

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May 17, 2008, 11:31:54 AM5/17/08
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<awais.n...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> SECULAR EVIDENCE (THAT GOD EXISTS):
>
Interesting for anyone who has not had a supernatural direct interaction
with God himself like I have. I offer nothing for those who don't believe
because it's a private thing. But philosophically, those with direct
contact with God, or even an angel would be exempted from wondering whether
there is really a god or not. Doubt, skepticism and speculation are thrive
in the presence of absence of evidence. As evidence increases the
speculation range narrows.

So I've spoken with God so I know he exists, for ME. It's nice to KNOW.
But it does also adress the issue as to whether God hides from others, even
confounds them with puzzles so that they amble in the dark with every new
theory about god. When in fact, it may only be dark because they refuse to
open their eyes.

This is likely to continue until they finally find their way to the edge of
a steep cliff and fall over it, maybe with a little push. Then in that
instant, they will know God personally.

The appearance of God is for those who search deligently for him, not for
those sitting back waiting for a magic show before they believe. Two
destinies. God helps those determined not to believe to believe even less,
assuring obliteration of the unworthy.

That's how it goes.

Two worlds. Those in the light and those in the darkness.

Lars


Christopher A. Lee

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May 17, 2008, 11:44:29 AM5/17/08
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On Sat, 17 May 2008 10:31:54 -0500, "Lars Wilson"
<siax...@embarqmail.com> wrote:

>
><awais.n...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:d9d0632d-b845-453f...@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>> SECULAR EVIDENCE (THAT GOD EXISTS):
>>
>Interesting for anyone who has not had a supernatural direct interaction
>with God himself like I have. I offer nothing for those who don't believe
>because it's a private thing. But philosophically, those with direct
>contact with God, or even an angel would be exempted from wondering whether
>there is really a god or not. Doubt, skepticism and speculation are thrive
>in the presence of absence of evidence. As evidence increases the
>speculation range narrows.

Prove it.

>So I've spoken with God so I know he exists, for ME. It's nice to KNOW.
>But it does also adress the issue as to whether God hides from others, even
>confounds them with puzzles so that they amble in the dark with every new
>theory about god. When in fact, it may only be dark because they refuse to
>open their eyes.

The psychotic thinks the voices in his head are real.

>This is likely to continue until they finally find their way to the edge of
>a steep cliff and fall over it, maybe with a little push. Then in that
>instant, they will know God personally.

Prove it, question-begging moron.

>The appearance of God is for those who search deligently for him, not for
>those sitting back waiting for a magic show before they believe. Two
>destinies. God helps those determined not to believe to believe even less,
>assuring obliteration of the unworthy.

What a fucking moron.

Where did you demonstrate that there was anything to search for, in
the ral world outside your reliogion?

Barry OGrady

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May 17, 2008, 12:11:54 PM5/17/08
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On Sat, 17 May 2008 10:31:54 -0500, "Lars Wilson" <siax...@embarqmail.com> wrote:

The atheist says "I 'll believe it when I see it."
The Christian says "I'll see it when I believe it."

>That's how it goes.

You have not had any contact with God. You have had a metal aberration.

>Two worlds. Those in the light and those in the darkness.

Christians are trapped in the dark square.

>Lars

Ben Goren

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May 17, 2008, 12:21:55 PM5/17/08
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Lars Wilson wrote:

> The appearance of God is for those who search deligently for
> him, not for those sitting back waiting for a magic show before
> they believe. Two destinies. God helps those determined not to
> believe to believe even less, assuring obliteration of the
> unworthy.

I truly cannot comprehend the profound depth of such a depraved
psychological pathology that would lead one to construct so
repulsive and deranged a fantasy.

You are very ill, and in desperate need of professional mental
health care.

awais.n...@gmail.com

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May 18, 2008, 10:42:21 AM5/18/08
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Atheists boast at being rational, so do I.

Correct me, if I am wrong. No BIAS here.

Ben Goren

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May 18, 2008, 3:07:30 PM5/18/08
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awais.n...@gmail.com wrote:

> Atheists boast at being rational, so do I.
>
> Correct me, if I am wrong. No BIAS here.

<snork>

You think that a minor Bronze-age war god created Life, the
Universe, and Everything, but that he's so shy that he had to send
a pedophile nutjob on a flying horse to tell us what he wants of
us.

And *you* think *you're* being rational?

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