Re: Why atheists are a tiny 4% of Non-Believers (0.7% of the population) in the USA was Re: The Great Scientists who built modern Civilisation - Einstein
fasgnadh
> fasgnadh wrote:
>> Don H wrote:
>>> "fasgnadh" <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:vR9Fm.50010$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>> Michael Gordge revealed the withered soul of the atheist:
>>>>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>>>>> "The human mind is not capable of grasping the Universe.
>>>>>> We are like a little child entering a huge library.
>>>>>> The walls are covered to the ceilings with books
>>>>>> in many different tongues.
>>>>>> The child knows that someone must have written these books.
>>>>>> It does not know who or how. It does not understand the
>>>>>> languages in which they are written. But the child notes a
>>>>>> definite plan in the arrangement of the books - a
>>>>>> mysterious order which it does not comprehend, but
>>>>>> only dimly suspects." - Albert Einstein
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Einstein stated at times that he did not believe in a Personal God,
>>>>>> and thus, like many theists, he did not pray for favours, like a child
>>>>>> with a shopping list of wants and desires he expected God to fulfil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Einstein accepted fully that man was a RATIONAL being with a capacity
>>>>>> to understand MEANING, if endowed with a Religious sensibility..which
>>>>>> is also the essential pre-requisite for theist *worship*, a sense of
>>>>>> awe and wonder, and of the remarkable order and structure to the
>>>>>> Universe;
>>>>>> " ..science can only be created by those who are thoroughly imbued
>>>>>> with the aspiration toward truth and understanding. This source
>>>>>> of feeling, however, springs from the sphere of Religion...
>>>>>> science without religion is lame, religion without science is
>>>>>> blind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Albert Einstein "Ideas and Opinions" 1954
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Naturally, even agnostics, who agree that there is no *conclusive*
>>>>>> proof for the non-existence of God(Atheism) or the existence of
>>>>>> God(Theism), acknowledge this central role which Religion plays and
>>>>>> has always played, in the evolving human civilisation, and the
>>>>>> scientific inquiry which has deepened it's understanding.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thats what makes them soo fucking stupid,
>>>>
>>>> See, that's why agnostics reject atheism! You are rude, ignorant,
>>>> dogmatic and full of hatred and venom..
>
> Actually agnostics quite often embrace one form of atheism,
We are not discussing the times Whorelord Steve sucks your cock! 8^o
>>>> no wonder the insightful
>>>> books of the worlds great religions describe you as Vipers.
>>
>> And every time the Vipers slither and hiss... they PROVE MY POINT:
>>
>>
>> > # If an atheist is "someone who does not believe in any god",
>>
>> Who cares how you define yourselves..
>>
>> I'm an agnostic, I don't believe Atheists can rationally Prove
>> that God does not exist, and Theists cannot PROVE that God does exist..
>> so the only rational position is to
>> admit that no one knows, and leave people to Freedom of Belief,
>> as guaranteed among all the Freedoms and Rights in the UN Charter,
>> every one of which was REMOVED by EVERY atheist regime in history!!!
>
> But it is the exercise of that freedom of belief that
> Fasgnadh attacks.
All I do is expose atheist beliefs and leave it to the decent
citizens to decide what they want to do about violent psychopaths
who advocate murder, desecration of the corpses and Genocide,
all of which are atheist traditions;
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
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# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We kill theists and shit down their throats and
# not in a girly way.
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
Not satisfied with murder, Steve favours GENOCIDE
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
# Subject: Re: Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
# Message-ID: <8t6ve5hs41qn3a2rv...@4ax.com>
# Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:18 -0800
#
# On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:32 +0200, "Katrina"
# <blondes_g...@yahoo.com> wrote:
#
# >Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
#
# It is the most foul, disgusting filth on Earth.
# The sooner we nuke you fuckers, the better.
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
>> The problem with atheists is that like OTHER FUNDIES, they try and
>> DICTATE WHAT OTHERS, in their view, MUST BELIEVE!
>>
>> And As ARIS shows, 96% of non-believers tell atheists EXPLICITLY AND
>> CLEARLY, to bugger off, and STOP pretending they speak for us! B^D
>>
>> Yet despite being the most despised and distrusted MINORITY,
>> even among NON-Believers, the arrogant, dogmatic atheist thugs still
>> think they can DICTATE and DEFINE what other people are...
>> and that is why they are distrusted and despised!!! B^]
>>
>> > then ALL non-believers are atheists, like it or not.
>>
>> Clearly atheists are living in LaLa Land, ignoring the facts:
>>
>>>> Even the other non believers, over 95% of them, REJECT ATHEISM;
>>>>
>>>> # Subject: Re: US religious now at 85% - It's GOD in a LANDSLIDE!!!
>>>> # -Atheists wallow at 2.3% worldwide, 0.7% in the USA! -a pitiful
>>>> # fraction of the minority of non-believers! B^D
>>>> #
>>>> # From: fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au>
>>>> # Newsgroups:
>>>> # alt.atheism,aus.religion,alt.religion,aus.politics,
>>>> # alt.politics.republicans, alt.politics.democrats,uk.politics.misc
>>>> # Message-ID: <8QNtl.26734$cu.1...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
>>>> # Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:07:32 GMT
>>>> #
>>>> # American Religious Identification Survey, Summary Report March 2009:
>>>> #
>>>> # "Self-identification of U.S. Adult Population by Religious Tradition
>>>> #
>>>> # 2001 2008
>>>> #
>>>> # Non- religious 29,481,000 (14.1%) 34,169,000 (15%)
>>>> #
>>>> # Religious 167,254,000 (80%) 182,198,000 (80%)
>>>> #
>>>> # Agnostics 991,000 (0.5%) 1,985,000 (0.9%)
>>>> #
>>>> # Atheists 902,000 (0.4%) 1,621,000 (0.7%)
>>>> #
>>>> #
>>>> #
>>>> # BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAA!
>>>> #
>>>> #
>>>> # 0.7% of Americans!! B^D 2.3% worldwide!!! B^D
>>>> #
>>>> # 'NON-RELIGIOUS' DOES NOT = ATHEIST, YOU DISHONEST CRETINS!
>>>> #
>>>> #
>>>> # EVEN THE AGNOSTICS BEAT YOU!!! **AND** they grew FASTER!!!! B^D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Athiests are 4% of the NON-Believers!! B^D
>>>>
>>>> Than means 96 out of every 100 non-believers EXPLICITLY reject atheism,
>>>> and yet you dogmatic and arrogant thugs try to speak for all of us?
>>>>
>>>> FOAD!
>>
>> > And if religious fanatics come hunting for heretics
>>
>> because the Militant Atheists provoke them, despite
>> hypocritically enjoying the protection of majority
>> religious societies, then we will simply point to the
>> Militant atheists and say.. there they are, we agnostics
>> rejected them and condemned their violence, brutality and
>> perversions, because we are moral and decent folk:
>>
>> # From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>> # Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
>> # Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
>> # Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
>> #
>> # We kill theists and shit down their throats
>> #
>> # Warlord Steve
>> # BAAWA
>>
>>
>> We rational agnostics, and other non-believers have distinguished
>> ourselves from such Militant Atheist thuggery and Dogmatism, and
>> condemned atheist Hate Speech and perversions:
>>
>> Kill Jesus
>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
>> Jesus light switch
>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest
>>
>>
>> Atheists are on their own. Any who supported Steve Knight and Trance
>> Stupor are likely to find themselves on the hot end of a lead enema!
>>
>> We have seen how those Christians deal with heretics! B ^D
>>
>> >they are not likely to discriminate;
>>
>> No, all those of you who stood by, defended the atheist tyrannies, and
>> defended this sort of perverted sickness will be treated just like the
>> ringleaders... but we rational agnostics already have close working
>> relationships with theists becasue we share their interest in Love,
>> as recent threads show, and in making it real through ACTION to help
>> the world, while atheism does NOTHING but Carp, insult and brutalise...
>>
>> > and all
>> > non-theists will burn at the stake,
>>
>> Rubbish, you fuckwits are so OUT OF DATE.. the Christians and Muslims
>> are now working together, they have no problem with those of us who
>> respect and work with their traditions! B^]
>>
>> You don't seem to have noticed my posts on the parliament of World
>> Religions.. they represent MOST OF THE PEOPLE ON THE PLANET, every
>> business and government will treat them with accord.. wheras you
>> ranting lunatics are mocked by all and sundry! B^D
>>
>>
>> > in reality, we take a sadistic pleasure in your agony
>>
>> That was certainly the case in the USSR, Maoist China, Pol Pots
>> Genocide... I'm just surprised to hear you atheists admitting it
>> openly.
>>
>>
>> > - like the Taliban or Saudis,
>>
>> You sure are, you leader is a Porn Queen, who reveals his violent
>> psycho-sexual sadism and hatred of women frequently:
>>
>>
>> In a discussion of MUTUAL LOVE and willing surrender,
>> the atheist thug reveals his misogyny and bestial force.
>>
>> It's a common occurrence among the atheist perverts;
>>
>> People talking about Cosmology were shocked to find Steve
>> touting his pornographic bent:
>>
>> #From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
>> # Subject: Re: The Big Bang Theory
>> # Message-ID: <j9p7e550bbdcc9oij...@4ax.com>
>> # Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:46:34 -0700
>> #
>> # "Firnando" wrote:
>> #
>> # >The Big Bang Theory
>> #
>> # You wanna see the big bang?
>> #
>> # NSFW!
>> #
>> # http://www.ovguide.com/adult.html
>> #
>> # Warlord Steve
>> # BAAWA
>>
>>
>> If you Google the word "Mother" for Steve Knight, this is what you find
>> Steve has to say about his idea of family relations;
>>
>>
>> # took his rubber cock out of his mouth, shoved it
>> # up his mother's ass and ...
>> #
>> # - From: Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion,alt.religion.christian,
>> # alt.agnosticism
>> # Subject: Re: Better place to debate theists?
>> # Message-ID: <8pj4e5pk7oi5ohvjp...@4ax.com>
>> # Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:06:52 -0700
>>
>>
>> His sick fantasies include violent murder and desecration
>> of the bodies of his enemies, men, women and children:
>>
>> # From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>> # Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
>> # Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
>> # Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
>> #
>> # We kill theists and shit down their throats
>> #
>> # Warlord Steve
>> # BAAWA
>>
>> This Atheist LEADER, who they all pay homage to, even sick females
>> like Trance Stupor who share his perversions, uses imagery full
>> of the violent misogyny he expresses in the posts above:
>>
>> # From: Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>> # Subject: Re: a.a.(atheist.angst.)
>> # OT(Ordinary and Tiresome) - not-a-Joke
>> # Message-ID: <i2cld5hbru4nugsib...@4ax.com>
>> # Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:37:21 -0700
>> #
>> # Your Dad wanted to watch me fuck your Mom in the
>> # ass and offered me a kilo of crack to do it.
>> # I told him she was so fucking fat and oily and smelled
>> # like two day old urine that I'd need at least five kilos
>> # and a gallon of Jack.
>> #
>> # The only thing keeping me interested is putting a bag
>> # over your sister's head and fucking her mouth.
>> # I love that cooing sound when she swallows my sperm.
>> #
>> # Warlord Steve
>> # BAAWA
>>
>>
>> As he admits, (rather unecessarily ;-) atheists have serious mental
>> issues and they come to Usenet to share their personal problems:
>>
>>
>> # From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>> # Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
>> # Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
>> # Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
>> #
>> # We're here to talk about our own personal issues as atheists
>>
>>
>> Jung was right:
>>
>>
>> "Among all my patients in the second half of life, that is, over
>> thirty-five, there has not been one whose problem in the last
>> resort was not that of finding a religious outlook on life.
>> It is safe to say that every one of them fell ill because
>> he had lost that which the living religions of every age
>> have given their followers, and none of them has really
>> been healed who did not regain his religious outlook."
>>
>> -Carl G. Jung Modern Man in Search of a Soul
>>
>> They cannot RECOGNISE Love, because they think it means
>> perverted SEX!!!!!!
>>
>> Talking to an atheist about Love is like speaking to the BLIND
>> about the colours of a sunset.
>>
>> The snip it all and make ANIMAL noises.. they are captives
>> of their Lower Self.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Here's another reason why atheists are the most DISTRUSTED minority in
>>>> the USA.. you are abusive BEFORE you even hear another's argument.
>>>>
>>>>> cowards stuck on the fence
>>>> I wait till your own post reveals what an irrational fool you are,
>>>> and then accurately label you as one.. (of course atheists then
>>>> scream and bleat that *I* am 'hateful..' because they PROJECT their own
>>>> behaviour onto others all the time! but they are insignificant! ;-)
>>>>
>>>> It is not cowardice to admit the truth; it is cowardice to
>>>> SNIP IT, as you did, because you atheists cannot DEAL with the Truth;
>>>>
>>>> Agnosticism is the DEFAULT rational position becasue there is no
>>>> *conclusive* roof for the non-existence of God(Atheism) or the existence
>>>> of God(Theism). There can be a logical proof of theism, there cannot
>>>> be a logical proof of atheism.. so logically an agnostic would keep
>>>> an open mind toward theism.
>>>>
>>>> There is also plenty of historical evidence, mixed for theism,
>>>> totally negative for atheism.
>>>>
>>>> Atheists lose in any rational assessment of the position, even at the
>>>> first cut.
>>>>
>>>> There is also a whole corpus of evidence of the efficacy of spiritual
>>>> teachings.. even atheists prefer to live in majority RELIGIOUS
>>>> societies, which have evolved democratic, even SECULAR governments,
>>>> rather than atheist states which have ALL ( 100%!!! ) been shitholes!
>>>>
>>>> You can't argue with the historical facts... atheism SUCKS!
>>>>
>>>> And finally, I don't need conclusive proof that my wife loves me,
>>>> there is sufficient evidence to sustain a rational >>belief<<.
>>>>
>>>> So it is with God.
>>>>
>>>> Atheism and agnosticism are based on PROOF, Atheism doesn't
>>>> have any, and agnostics don't need any!
>>>>
>>>> Theism is based upon beliefs.. all too Mystic for you atheists..
>>>>
>>>> you best keep your mouths shut and stay out of it! B^]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> of evasion with their feet dangling into the mystic's camp
>>>>
>>>> See there's why you are such a tiny, fringe nutter group...
>>>>
>>>> you all fantasise like crazy.. Budikka is a Sci Fi nut,
>>>> Gray plays wargames, Fluffy calls himself a Warlord FFS!! B^D
>>>>
>>>> Trance craps on about Selling the Vatican.. you are all mad
>>>> as cut snakes.... B^]
>>>>
>>>> But then you bag really interesting mystics who have profound
>>>> things to say! pffft!
>>>>
>>>> You are boring, dogmatic, doctrinaire, adolescents, clearly
>>>> lacking in wit, originality or talent who band together
>>>> to feel superior, stroke each others weak ego's and ritually
>>>> spit on theists!
>>>>
>>>> It's a HOOT to watch, and a cinch to de-construct, mock
>>>> and deride to OBLIVION.... and that's why I have taken out
>>>> your entire 'intellignesia'.. because you are witless dimwits.
>>>>
>>>> B^]
>>>>
>>>> And it's time to let you in on another secret....
>>>>
>>>> I'm not talking TO you, I'm using you all as teaching aids.
>>>>
>>>> That's why i love being in your cult's KILLFILES..
>>>>
>>>> This is how people with Killfiles look to everyone else:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.tomandang.com/blog/images/headUpArse.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Think about it as the paranoia festers! B^D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > ready to
>>>>> leap right on in, the agnostic is the mystic in waiting.
>>>> See, the way you knuckle-dragging trogs dismiss the mystic
>>>> sages, when you are all functionally illiterate is a RIOT! B^D
>>>>
>>>> You parade your ignorance with pride! B^]
>>>>
>>>> Rumi wrote about you SEVEN HUNDRED YEARS AGO;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1504
>>>>
>>>> Do not sit long with a sad friend
>>>> When you go to a garden
>>>> do you look at thorns or flowers?
>>>> Spend more time with roses and jasmine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Atheists are in pain.. their posts are endless whining...
>>>>
>>>> one long string of abuse...
>>>>
>>>> it reflects upon you, not those you direct it towards;
>>>>
>>>> When a simpleton abused him, Buddha listened to him in silence,
>>>> but when the man had finished asked him,
>>>> "Son, if a man declined to accept a present offered to him,
>>>> to whom would it belong?"
>>>> The man answered "To him who offered it."
>>>> "My son," Buddha said, "I decline to accept your abuse. Keep it for
>>>> yourself."
>>>>
>>>> - Will Durant The Story of Civilization.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >> The first of those imbued with this Spirit were those who
>>>> >> contemplated the world around us,
>>>> >> and the Universe beyond, with the awe and
>>>> >> wonderment contained in the single word:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Lo! - behold.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "Awake! for Morning in the Bowl of Night
>>>> >> Has flung the Stone that puts the Stars to Flight:
>>>> >> And Lo! the Hunter of the East has caught
>>>> >> The Sultan's Turret in a Noose of Light."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is it mysticism, or simply poetry describing dawn light,
>>>>
>>>> .. or for the truly Blessed.. Both. 8^)
>>>>
>>
>>
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> Virgil wrote:
> > fasgnadh wrote:
> >> Don H wrote:
> # Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
> #
> # We kill theists and shit down their throats and
> # not in a girly way.
> #
> # Warlord Steve
> # BAAWA
>
> Not satisfied with murder, Steve favours GENOCIDE
>
> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
> # Subject: Re: Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
> # Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:18 -0800
> #
>
> #
> # >Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
> #
> # It is the most foul, disgusting filth on Earth.
> # The sooner we nuke you fuckers, the better.
> #
> # Warlord Steve
> # BAAWA
>
>
>
>
>
> >> The problem with atheists is that like OTHER FUNDIES, they try and
> >> DICTATE WHAT OTHERS, in their view, MUST BELIEVE!
>
> >> And As ARIS shows, 96% of non-believers tell atheists EXPLICITLY AND
> >> CLEARLY, to bugger off, and STOP pretending they speak for us! B^D
>
> >> Yet despite being the most despised and distrusted MINORITY,
> >> even among NON-Believers, the arrogant, dogmatic atheist thugs still
> >> think they can DICTATE and DEFINE what other people are...
> >> and that is why they are distrusted and despised!!! B^]
>
> >> > then ALL non-believers are atheists, like it or not.
>
> >> Clearly atheists are living in LaLa Land, ignoring the facts:
>
> >>>> Even the other non believers, over 95% of them, REJECT ATHEISM;
>
> >>>> # Subject: Re: US religious now at 85% - It's GOD in a LANDSLIDE!!!
> >>>> # -Atheists wallow at 2.3% worldwide, 0.7% in the USA! -a pitiful
> >>>> # fraction of the minority of non-believers! B^D
> >>>> #
> >>>> # Newsgroups:
> >>>> # alt.atheism,aus.religion,alt.religion,aus.politics,
> >>>> # alt.politics.republicans, alt.politics.democrats,uk.politics.misc
> >> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
> >> # Subject: Re: The Big Bang Theory
> >> # Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:46:34 -0700
> >> #
> >> # "Firnando" wrote:
> >> #
> >> # >The Big Bang Theory
> >> #
> >> # You wanna see the big bang?
> >> #
> >> # NSFW!
> >> #
> >> # http://www.ovguide.com/adult.html
> >> #
> >> # Warlord Steve
> >> # BAAWA
>
> >> If you Google the word "Mother" for Steve Knight, this is what you find
> >> Steve has to say about his idea of family relations;
>
> >> # took his rubber cock out of his mouth, shoved it
> >> # up his mother's ass and ...
> >> #
> >> # - From: Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net>
> >> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion,alt.religion.christian,
> >> # alt.agnosticism
> >> # Subject: Re: Better place to debate theists?
> >> # Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:06:52 -0700
>
> >> His sick fantasies include violent murder and desecration
> >> of the bodies of his enemies, men, women and children:
>
> >> # Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
> >> #
> >> # We kill theists and shit down their throats
> >> #
> >> # Warlord Steve
> >> # BAAWA
>
> >> This Atheist LEADER, who they all pay homage to, even sick females
> >> like Trance Stupor who share his perversions, uses imagery full
> >> of the violent misogyny he expresses in the posts above:
>
> >> # From: Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net>
> >> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
> >> # Subject: Re: a.a.(atheist.angst.)
> >> # OT(Ordinary and Tiresome) - not-a-Joke
> >> # Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:37:21 -0700
> >> #
> >> # Your Dad wanted to watch me fuck your Mom in the
> >> # ass and offered me a kilo of crack to do it.
> >> # I told him she was so fucking fat and oily and smelled
> >> # like two day old urine that I'd need at least five kilos
> >> # and a gallon of Jack.
> >> #
> >> # The only thing keeping me interested is putting a bag
> >> # over your sister's head and fucking her mouth.
> >> # I love that cooing sound when she swallows my sperm.
> >> #
> >> # Warlord Steve
> >> # BAAWA
>
> >> As he admits, (rather unecessarily ;-) atheists have serious mental
> >> issues and they come to Usenet to share their personal problems:
>
>
> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>
> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
>
> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
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> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>
> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest
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> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest
>
> "How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
> - Lenin
>
> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
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Here is the reason the percentage of proclaimed 'atheists' is so
incredibly low ; no one really has the kind of faith required to
think the following was produced by anything BUT a skillful,
incredible, almighty, and loving personal Designer/Creator. Like
anything else...the design is in the details and if it sounds like
design, looks like design, is scientifically-confirmed to be
design...then by-gum it IS design ! (something raw materials and
natural occurences could never ever accomplish ) . See the following
and be in awe of our wonderful personal Creator of the Cosmos who
fashioned it all for us (if your WILL shall allow !) . Its no longer
about lack of evidence for God, its about the individuals will to
overcome not wanting God to exist :
The Cosmological Constant is to within 120 decimal places and the
Expansion Rate of the Universe according to Prof. Stephen Hawkins is
1/1,000,000 th otherwise we arent here. Considering these two , plus
the following that has been scientifically verified, it is completely
absurd to think this Universe/Solar System/Earth wasnt pre-planned ,
incredibly well designed , and Created by a Mind at work ....and one
is so powerful that it boggles the Mind. Your ultimate purpose to
living is to get to know this obvious personal Creator , and the ball
is in your court ; the wise among us make the effort putting aside
pride :
The table below lists the parameters required for a planet to be able
to sustain life. Individually, the probabilities of occurrence of each
parameter are not particularly impressive. The fact that all of these
parameters are found on the Earth is extremely impressive, indicating
an extreme deviation from random chance. The probability values below
are ones obtained from that observed in the universe as a whole.
Uniqueness of the Galaxy-Sun-Earth-Moon System for Life Support
galaxy size (9) (p = 0.1)
if too large: infusion of gas and stars would disturb sun's orbit and
ignite deadly galactic eruptions
if too small: infusion of gas would be insufficient to sustain star
formation long enough for life to form
galaxy type (7) (p = 0.1)
if too elliptical: star formation would cease before sufficient heavy
elements formed for life chemistry
if too irregular: radiation exposure would be too severe (at times)
and life-essential heavy elements would not form
galaxy location (9) (p = 0.1)
if too close to dense galaxy cluster: galaxy would be gravitationally
unstable, hence unsuitable for life
if too close to large galaxy(ies): same result
supernovae eruptions (8) (p = 0.01)
if too close: radiation would exterminate life
if too far: too little "ash" would be available for rocky planets to
form
if too infrequent: same result
if too frequent: radiation would exterminate life
if too soon: too little "ash" would be available for rocky planets to
form
if too late: radiation would exterminate life
white dwarf binaries (8) (p = 0.01)
if too few: insufficient fluorine would exist for life chemistry
if too many: orbits of life-supportable planets would be disrupted;
life would be exterminated
if too soon: insufficient fluorine would exist for life chemistry
if too late: fluorine would arrive too late for life chemistry
proximity of solar nebula to a supernova eruption (9)
if farther: insufficient heavy elements would be attracted for life
chemistry
if closer: nebula would be blown apart
timing of solar nebula formation relative to supernova eruption (9)
if earlier: nebula would be blown apart
if later: nebula would not attract enough heavy elements for life
chemistry
parent star distance from center of galaxy (9) (p = 0.2)
if greater: insufficient heavy elements would be available for rocky
planet formation
if lesser: radiation would be too intense for life; stellar density
would disturb planetary orbits, making life impossible
parent star distance from closest spiral arm (9) (p = 0.1)
if too small: radiation from other stars would be too intense and the
stellar density would disturb orbits of life-supportable planets
if too great: quantity of heavy elements would be insufficient for
formation of life-supportable planets
z-axis range of star's orbit (9) (p = 0.1)
if too wide: exposure to harmful radiation from galactic core would be
too great
number of stars in the planetary system (10) (p = 0.2)
if more than one: tidal interactions would make the orbits of
life-supportable planets too unstable for life
if fewer than one: no heat source would be available for life
chemistry
parent star birth date (9) (p = 0.2)
if more recent: star burning would still be unstable; stellar system
would contain too many heavy elements for life chemistry
if less recent: stellar system would contain insufficient heavy
elements for life chemistry
parent star age (9) (p = 0.4)
if older: star's luminosity would be too erratic for life support
if younger: same result
parent star mass (10) (p = 0.001)
if greater: star's luminosity would be too erratic and star would burn
up too quickly to support life
if lesser: life support zone would be too narrow; rotation period of
life-supportable planet would be too long; UV radiation would be
insufficient for photosynthesis
parent star metallicity (9) (p = 0.05)
if too little: insufficient heavy elements for life chemistry would
exist
if too great: radioactivity would be too intense for life; heavy
element concentrations would be poisonous to life
parent star color (9) (p = 0.4)
if redder: photosynthetic response would be insufficient to sustain
life
if bluer: same result
H3+ production (23) (p = 0.1)
if too little: simple molecules essential to planet formation and life
chemistry would never form
if too great: planets would form at the wrong time and place for life
parent star luminosity (11) (p = 0.0001)
if increases too soon: runaway green house effect would develop
if increases too late: runaway glaciation would develop
surface gravity (governs escape velocity) (12) (p = 0.001)
if stronger: planet's atmosphere would retain too much ammonia and
methane for life
if weaker: planet's atmosphere would lose too much water for life
distance from parent star (13) (p = 0.001)
if greater: planet would be too cool for a stable water cycle
if lesser: planet would be too warm for a stable water cycle
inclination of orbit (22) (p = 0.5)
if too great: temperature range on the planet's surface would be too
extreme for life
orbital eccentricity (9) (p = 0.3)
if too great: seasonal temperature range would be too extreme for life
axial tilt (9) (p = 0.3)
if greater: surface temperature differences would be too great to
sustain diverse life-forms
if lesser: same result
rate of change of axial tilt (9) (p = 0.01)
if greater: climatic and temperature changes would be too extreme for
life
rotation period (11) (p = 0.1)
if longer: diurnal temperature differences would be too great for life
if shorter: atmospheric wind velocities would be too great for life
rate of change in rotation period (14) (p = 0.05)
if more rapid: change in day-to-night temperature variation would be
too extreme for sustained life
if less rapid: change in day-to-night temperature variation would be
too slow for the development of advanced life
planet's age (9) (p = 0.1)
if too young: planet would rotate too rapidly for life
if too old: planet would rotate too slowly for life
magnetic field (20) (p = 0.01)
if stronger: electromagnetic storms would be too severe
if weaker: planetary surface and ozone layer would be inadequately
protected from hard solar and stellar radiation
thickness of crust (15) (p = 0.01)
if greater: crust would rob atmosphere of oxygen needed for life
if lesser: volcanic and tectonic activity would be destructive to life
albedo (ratio of reflected light to total amount falling on surface)
(9) (p = 0.1)
if greater: runaway glaciation would develop
if less: runaway greenhouse effect would develop
asteroid and comet collision rates (9) (p = 0.1)
if greater: ecosystem balances would be destroyed
if less: crust would contain too little of certain life-essential
elements
mass of body colliding with primordial earth (9) (0 = 0.002)
if greater: Earth's orbit and form would be too greatly disturbed for
life
if lesser: Earth's atmosphere would be too thick for life; moon would
be too small to fulfill its life-sustaining role
timing of above collision (9) (p = 0.05)
if earlier: Earth's atmosphere would be too thick for life; moon would
be too small to fulfill its life-sustaining role
if later: Earth's atmosphere would be too thin for life; sun would be
too luminous for subsequent life
oxygen to nitrogen ratio in atmosphere (25) (p = 0.1)
if greater: advanced life functions would proceed too rapidly
if lesser: advanced life functions would proceed too slowly
carbon dioxide level in atmosphere (21) (p = 0.01)
if greater: runaway greenhouse effect would develop
if less: plants would be unable to maintain efficient photosynthesis
water vapor quantity in atmosphere (9) (p = 0.01)
if greater: runaway greenhouse effect would develop
if less: rainfall would be too meager for advanced land life
atmospheric electric discharge rate (9) (p = 0.1)
if greater: fires would be too frequent and widespread for life
if less: too little nitrogen would be fixed in the atmosphere
ozone quantity in atmosphere (9) (p = 0.01)
if greater: surface temperatures would be too low for life;
insufficient UV radiation for life
if less: surface temperatures would be too high for life; UV radiation
would be too intense for life
oxygen quantity in atmosphere (9) (p = 0.01)
if greater: plants and hydrocarbons would burn up too easily,
destabilizing Earth's ecosystem
if less: advanced animals would have too little to breathe
seismic activity (16) (p = 0.1)
if greater: life would be destroyed; ecosystem would be damaged
if less: nutrients on ocean floors from river runoff would not be
recycled to continents through tectonics; not enough carbon dioxide
would be released from carbonate buildup
volcanic activity (26)
if lower: insufficient amounts of carbon dioxide and water vapor would
be returned to the atmosphere; soil mineralization would be
insufficient for life advanced life support
if higher: advanced life would be destroyed; ecosystem would be
damaged
rate of decline in tectonic activity (26) (p = 0.1)
if slower: crust conditions would be too unstable for advanced life
if faster: crust nutrients would be inadequate for sustained land life
rate of decline in volcanic activity (9) (p = 0.1)
if slower: crust and surface conditions would be unsuitable for
sustained land life
if faster: crust and surface nutrients would be inadequate for
sustained land life
oceans-to-continents ratio (11) (p = 0.2)
if greater: diversity and complexity of life-forms would be limited
if smaller: same result
rate of change in oceans-to-continents ratio (9) (p = 0.1)
if smaller: land area would be insufficient for advanced life
if greater: change would be too radical for advanced life to survive
distribution of continents (10) (p = 0.3)
if too much in the Southern Hemisphere: sea-salt aerosols would be
insufficient to stabilize surface temperature and water cycle;
increased seasonal differences would limit the available habitats for
advanced land life
frequency and extent of ice ages (9) (p = 0.1)
if lesser: Earth's surface would lack fertile valleys essential for
advanced life; mineral concentrations would be insufficient for
advanced life.
if greater: Earth would experience runaway freezing
soil mineralization (9) (p = 0.1)
if nutrient poorer: diversity and complexity of lifeforms would be
limited
if nutrient richer: same result
gravitational interaction with a moon (17) (p = 0.1)
if greater: tidal effects on the oceans, atmosphere, and rotational
period would be too severe for life
if lesser: orbital obliquity changes would cause climatic
instabilities; movement of nutrients and life from the oceans to the
continents and vice versa would be insufficient for life; magnetic
field would be too weak to protect life from dangerous radiation
Jupiter distance (18) (p = 0.1)
if greater: Jupiter would be unable to protect Earth from frequent
asteroid and comet collisions
if lesser: Jupiter’s gravity would destabilize Earth's orbit
Jupiter mass (19) (p = 0.1)
if greater: Jupiter’s gravity would destabilize Earth's orbit 9
if lesser: Jupiter would be unable to protect Earth from asteroid and
comet collisions
drift in (major) planet distances (9) (p = 0.1)
if greater: Earth's orbit would be destabilized
if less: asteroid and comet collisions would be too frequent for life
major planet orbital eccentricities (18) (p = 0.05)
if greater: Earth's orbit would be pulled out of life support zone
major planet orbital instabilities (9) (p = 0.1)
if greater: Earth's orbit would be pulled out of life support zone
atmospheric pressure (9) (p = 0.1)
if smaller: liquid water would evaporate too easily and condense too
infrequently to support life
if greater: inadequate liquid water evaporation to support life;
insufficient sunlight would reach Earth's surface; insufficient UV
radiation would reach Earth's surface
atmospheric transparency (9) (p = 0.01)
if greater: too broad a range of solar radiation wavelengths would
reach Earth's surface for life support
if lesser: too narrow a range of solar radiation wavelengths would
reach Earth's surface for life support
chlorine quantity in atmosphere (9) (p = 0.1)
if greater: erosion rate and river, lake, and soil acidity would be
too high for most life forms; metabolic rates would be too high for
most life forms
if lesser: erosion rate and river, lake, and soil acidity would be too
low for most life forms; metabolic rates would be too low for most
life forms
iron quantity in oceans and soils (9) (p = 0.1)
if greater: iron poisoning would destroy advanced life
if lesser: food to support advanced life would be insufficient
if very small: no life would be possible
tropospheric ozone quantity (9) (p = 0.01)
if greater: advanced animals would experience respiratory failure;
crop yields would be inadequate for advanced life; ozone-sensitive
species would be unable to survive
if smaller: biochemical smog would hinder or destroy most life
stratospheric ozone quantity (9) (p = 0.01)
if greater: not enough LTV radiation would reach Earth's surface to
produce food and life-essential vitamins
if lesser: too much LTV radiation would reach Earth's surface, causing
skin cancers and reducing plant growth
mesospheric ozone quantity (9) (p = 0.01)
if greater: circulation and chemistry of mesospheric gases would
disturb relative abundance of life-essential gases in lower atmosphere
if lesser: same result
frequency and extent of forest and grass fires (24) (p = 0.01)
if greater: advanced life would be impossible
if lesser: accumulation of growth inhibitors, combined with
insufficient nitrification, would make soil unsuitable for food
production
quantity of soil sulfur (9) (p = 0.1)
if greater: plants would be destroyed by sulfur toxins, soil acidity,
and disturbance of the nitrogen cycle
if lesser: plants would die from An organic compound made of amino
acids arranged in a linear chain, joined together by peptide bonds
between the carboxyl and amino groups of the adjacent amino acid
residues.protein deficiency
biomass to comet-infall ratio (9) (p = 0.01)
if greater: greenhouse gases would decline, triggering runaway
freezing
if lesser: greenhouse gases would accumulate, triggering runaway
greenhouse effect
quantity of sulfur in planet's core (9) (p = 0.1)
if greater: solid inner core would never form, disrupting magnetic
field
if smaller: solid inner core formation would begin too soon, causing
it to grow too rapidly and extensively, disrupting magnetic field
quantity of sea-salt aerosols (9) (p = 0.1)
if greater: too much and too rapid cloud formation over the oceans
would disrupt the climate and atmospheric temperature balances
if smaller: insufficient cloud formation; hence, inadequate water
cycle; disrupts atmospheric temperature balances and hence the climate
dependency factors (estimate 100,000,000,000)
longevity requirements (estimate .00001)
Total Probability = 1:1099
Click here to see these parameters in table format.
Updated List of parameters
Taken from Big Bang Refined by Fire by Dr. Hugh Ross, 1998. Reasons To
Believe, Pasadena, CA.
By putting together probabilities for each of these design features
occurring by chance, we can calculate the probability of the existence
of a planet like Earth. This probability is 1 chance in 1099. Since
there are estimated to be a maximum of 1023 planets in the universe
(10 planets/star, see note below), by chance there shouldn't be any
planets capable of supporting life in the universe (only one chance in
1076). Design or random chance?
Don't we ALL believe in miracles?
Note: This is most likely a huge over estimate. In a recent survey of
globular cluster 47 Tucanae, scientists found zero extrasolar planets
out of 37,000 stars searched (Astronomers Ponder Lack of Planets in
Globular Cluster from the Hubble Space Telescope).
Related Resources
Moons Like Earth's Moon are Rare in the Universe
God of the Gaps - Do All Christian Apologetics Fall Into This Kind of
Argument?
Rare Earth: Why Complex Life is Uncommon in the Universe by Peter D.
Ward and Donald Brownlee
A recent (2000) secular book that recognizes the improbable design of
the earth. Paleontologist Peter D. Ward and astrobiologist Donald
Brownlee examine the unusual characteristics of our galaxy, solar
system, star, and Earth and conclude that ET may have no home to go
to. Surprisingly, the authors conclude that the amazing "coincidences"
are the result of good luck and chance.
The Creator and the Cosmos by Dr. Hugh Ross
A classic book for modern Christian apologetics and science, recently
updated (June, 2001) with fully one third of the book updated. Dr.
Ross presents the latest scientific evidence for intelligent design of
our world and an easy to understand introduction to modern cosmology.
This is a great book to give agnostics, who have an interest in
cosmology and astronomy.
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huge
<snip other plagiarized nonsense>
>The table below lists the parameters required for a planet to be able
>to sustain life. Individually, the probabilities of occurrence of each
>parameter are not particularly impressive. The fact that all of these
>parameters are found on the Earth is extremely impressive, indicating
>an extreme deviation from random chance. The probability values below
>are ones obtained from that observed in the universe as a whole.
...appears at:
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/designss.html#c8woP0HSMIZr
...toward the bottom at "Conclusions."
A typical unattributed cut-and-paste [plagiarized] by
IBeanIdiot.
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tiny 4% of Non-Believers" - nothing of any consequence can follow.
fasgnadh
> When you start of with a pathetic, ignorant claim like: "Why atheists are a
> tiny 4% of Non-Believers" - nothing of any consequence can follow.
Because you cannot dispute the Truth, read the ARIS data and weep:
# Subject: Re: US religious now at 85% - It's GOD in a LANDSLIDE!!!
# -Atheists wallow at 2.3% worldwide, 0.7% in the USA! -a pitiful
# fraction of the minority of non-believers! B^D
#
# From: fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au>
# Newsgroups:
# alt.atheism,aus.religion,alt.religion,aus.politics,
# alt.politics.republicans, alt.politics.democrats,uk.politics.misc
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# Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:07:32 GMT
#
# American Religious Identification Survey, Summary Report March 2009:
#
# "Self-identification of U.S. Adult Population by Religious Tradition
#
# 2001 2008
#
# Non- religious 29,481,000 (14.1%) 34,169,000 (15%)
#
# Religious 167,254,000 (80%) 182,198,000 (80%)
#
# Agnostics 991,000 (0.5%) 1,985,000 (0.9%)
#
# Atheists 902,000 (0.4%) 1,621,000 (0.7%)
#
#
#
# BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAA!
#
#
# 0.7% of Americans!! B^D 2.3% worldwide!!! B^D
#
# 'NON-RELIGIOUS' DOES NOT = ATHEIST, YOU ATHEIST CRETINS!
1,621,000 atheists, a pitiful 0.7%^ of the Population and
a pathetic 4% of the 'Non-Religious' (34,169,000)
Clearly most non-religious refuse to be associated with atheists.
ARIS is an anonymous survey, the most widely quoted and respected
scientific survey of religious affiliation, and 96% of those who don't
care, don't have an opinion either way, or simply can't be bothered
thinking about the matter.. EXPLICITLY REJECT ATHEISM!!!!
Suck it up, you rejected atheist losers!
#
#
# EVEN THE AGNOSTICS BEAT YOU!!! **AND** they grew FASTER!!!! B^D
No wonder atheists are the most despised and distrusted
minority in the USA, they snip all the evidence, post lies
and then run away from the facts! pffffft!
<Unsnip>
>> if lesser: Jupiter�s gravity would destabilize Earth's orbit
>> Jupiter mass (19) (p = 0.1)
>> if greater: Jupiter�s gravity would destabilize Earth's orbit 9
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fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> # Subject: Re: US religious now at 85% - It's GOD in a LANDSLIDE!!!
Several different gods perhaps in several mutually antagonist minor
landslides, perhaps, but the non-theists and don't cares are growing
fast in all nations with STRONGLY SECULAR DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENTS able to
protect their citizens from the evils of religion intrusion.