On 20/05/2012 6:17 AM, DonH wrote:
> "fasgnadh"<
fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> On 19/05/2012 11:56 AM, Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess
>> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:16:11 -0700 (PDT)
>>> "
IlBe...@gmail.com"<
ilbe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On May 18, 11:45 am, BroilJAB<
DesignDen...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>>>>> In almost every case, the culprit turns out to be
>>>>> an atheist --a deviant sometimes posing as a
>>>>> Christian, but is discovered instead to be atheist.
>>>>> Cut out the poison root of crime and do like almost
>>>>> all prior cultures: criminalize atheism.
>>
>> No, you cannot have freedom to think and believe (which EVERY
>> atheist regime in history has oppressed!!) without the freedom
>> to not think and not believe.
>>
>> I Criticise the CRIMINAL **ACTS**, irrespective of who makes them.
>>
>>>> There are no greater bad repercussions than a nation which is
>>>> atheistic :
>>
>> True, the worst tyrannies in human history have been the atheist regimes,
>> there are none worse.
>>
>> the death toll alone was over 80,000,000 men women and children,
>> far worse than any religion.
Everytime I make this point, the poor brain-addled atheists, unable
to refute this clear truth, avoid it, make up some pathetic straw man
argument and argue with their own fantasy construct, because they SURE
AS SHIT cannot argue with what I DO SAY!
>>>> No moral laws that people want to have (yet they demand
>>>> others treat them with high moral laws) , not wanting absolute truth
>>>> except for the absolute truth that atheism is true , a springboard
>>>> into anarchy , seeing no intrinsic value behind 'accidental ,
>>>> unpurposed, randomly fashioned' Mankind , an apathetic view toward
>>>> any and every immoral lifestyle which harms people and a society ,
>>>> and this is just a very small portion of the fallout from atheism.
>>>
>>> The "fallout from atheism?"
>>
>> The terror torture and mass murder in the atheist regimes are well
>> documented, the Union of Savage Slaughter and Repression(USSR),
>> Mao's Great Leap Backward and Cultural Devolution, Pol Pot's Year Zero..
>> killed over 80,000,000 and left those nations wrecked.
Now watch how DonH, a typical atheist fraud, unable to dispute these
historical facts about atheist regimes, will pretend that my argument
is something quite different, and then he will argue with his
misrepresentation of what I say...
>>> Here's a list of some of the more common "atheistic values"
>>
>> "Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails
>> of the last priest."
>> ? Denis Diderot
>>
>>
>> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
>> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>> "How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
>> - Lenin
>>
> # What is "fasgnadh"s constant argument?
Well, my argument is right there for everyone to read,
and if your were intellectually honest and capable of rational thought,
you could debate it. but you are just another weak minded, immoral,
atheist LIAR, incapable of refuting a single point that I have made. B^]
Now lets see DonH's bullshit argument
> All Communists are Atheists.
Rubbish! All the communist party members who ran the Atheist regimes
which terrorised, tortured and killed over 80,000,000 people were.. but
I have never claimed ALL communists are atheists. In fact since they
abandoned the fierce atheist persecution of all religion during the
Cultural Devolution and the Great Leap Backward, the Chinese communist
party have reformed their constitution to allow greater freedom of
belief and thought, and have begun to prosper! B^D
It's amazing how with the madness of radical militant atheist tyranny
being abandoned by a more pragmatic Communist party there has been an
explosion of theism, over 300,000,000 new believers, accompanied by
phenomenal economic growth, prosperity and technological advance..
Meanwhile, the nations the atheists all like to point to as having
declining faith, in Europe for example, have faltering economies
and rampant unemployment.. 8^o
The Chinese Communist party now recognise the efficacy of spiritual
teachings in creating social harmony and civilised progress:
"With the gradual liberalisation that developed with
Deng Xiaoping's open door reforms, religion was no
longer proscribed. In 1982, the constitution was
amended to allow Chinese people considerable freedom
of religion."
http://cbbc.org/china_guide/religion.html
"At the first world Buddhism forum in East China's Zhejiang
Province last year, the Chinese government acknowledged
the active role religion plays in building a harmonious society."
"For example, religious beliefs have helped cut down crime
to a large extent,"
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-02/07/content_802994.htm
"religion has been enjoying a resurgence in China over the
past 20 years, as Communist Party disapproval has eased"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6337627.stm
"Religious believers thrice the estimate
By Wu Jiao (China Daily)
"A survey has found that the number of religious believers
is three times bigger than the official estimate.
The poll of about 4,500 people, conducted by professors Tong
Shijun and Liu Zhongyu of Shanghai-based East China Normal
University from 2005 till recently, found that 31.4 percent
of Chinese aged 16 and above or about 300 million are religious."
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-02/07/content_802994.htm
Incredible! in just a few short years the new converts from
atheism In JUST ONE COUNTRY, far outnumber the slow increase
in tiny atheist numbers in the rest of the WORLD! B^D
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAA
The rest of this atheist stooge's lies are even more irrational:
Even IF his claim that " All Communists are Atheists." were true,
it is illogical to argue, as this moron does, that the inverse is
true:
Eg All popes are catholic does NOT mean that all Catholics are popes:
Thus his false claim that "all Communists are Atheists" does not mean
all atheists are communists.
> You are an Atheist.
> Hence, you are a Communist.
pathetic nonsense!
HE then goes on to argue with his OWN faulty illogical gibberish...
> This ignores the many Western Atheists, whether calling themselves
> Humanists, Rationalists, Secularists, etc - who are NOT Communists.
> As for that Acme of Moral Turpitude,
the atheist regimes of the 20th century, which killed over 80,000,000
people, far more than any religion in all the previous centuries..
they All failed catastrophically leaving only one, the pathetic shithole
called Nth Korea
> they are a declining force in world affairs,
they are a fucking BASKET case! B^D
They are such a powerful example of how atheist regimes are
DYSFUNCTIONAL Distopia's that htey can't even feed their people
and have fallen off the UN's Human Development Index! 8^o
> North Korea may fit "fasgnadh"'s mould,
ie, EVERY Atheist regime has been a totalitarian tyranny!!!
North Korea today.. The Union of Savage Slaughter and Repression
under Lenin and Stalin, China under Mao during the Cultural Devolution
and Pol Pot's Cambodia .. EVERY atheist regime has been a complete
CLUSTERFUCK!!!! B^p
Since the Soviet collapse Russia, still deeply wounded from the
destruction wrought by the atheist tyranny, has made some, slow
progress. China, which officially abandoned the atheist state and
it's persecution of religion has prospered, as you would expect when
greater FREEDOM of belief and thought are allowed...
> the Chinese seem relatively happy.
of course, they are no longer a dysfunctional atheist tyranny,
destroying temples and killing theists... there are now 300,000,000
new believers in china, and many of them are the Young professionals
in Shanghai, driving the Chinese Economic Miracle!!!!
It's incredible you western atheist morons haven't learned the lesson
of history as those billions of former atheist regime victims have done!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAA
> Even Vietnam gets along alright,
Vietnam was never listed as an atheist regime.
Thanks for continuing ot prove MY POINT! B^]
> now that Yanks' carpet bombing has ceased.
> But, if "fasgnadh", the supposed Agnostic, was to visit Iran,
Oh look.. the best these atheist propagandists can do is to IGNORE
the fact that EVERY atheist regime has been a tyranny, that EVERY
free, open, progressive, tolerant secular democracy has been built
by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS societies.. and to try and argue from ONE,
atypical case of a theocracy which is in no way TYPICAL of religious
societies, nor even of Islam.
Indonesia is the largest Muslim nation on earth, and it's far more
democratic, tolerant and progressive than ANY atheist regime in history!!!
Q.E.D.
DonH can Cherry Pick the data and lie all he likes, but he can't
escape the truth;
SOME societies claiming to be religious are tyrannies (and betray
the principles of those faiths in doing so)
ALL atheist states in History have been or are tyrannies and
All the most evolved, free, open, progressive, tolerant secular
democracies have been created and sustained by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS
societies.. not one has ever been produced by atheist states!
Q.E.D.
That explains this:
"At the dawn of the 20th Century approximately one half of the world's
population identified itself as either Muslim, Catholic, Protestant,
Hindu or Buddhist, and 100 years of secularism, and technological
advancement, and scientific progress later and that number is now
two thirds.
So, for those of you who enjoy beginning coffee shop
conversations with "The Death of God" .. it's time to change
the subject! It's time to talk about something else , because
it's not happening at all.
People are becoming more religious, not less religious,
and religion itself is also evolving"
- Dr Reza Aslan
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/bigideas/stories/2010/2929354.htm