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Budikka666
May 19, 2012, 6:43:39 PM5/19/12
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http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sphere-is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
deep.
Budikka
No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
deep.
Budikka
Andrew
May 20, 2012, 3:17:20 PM5/20/12
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"Budikka666" wrote in message news:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
"And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
covered." v.19
That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
mountain peaks.
And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
straw man.
>
> Budikka
Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
Maker.
Andrew
> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sphere-is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
>
> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> miles deep.
Here is what happened..
>
> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> miles deep.
"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
"And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
covered." v.19
That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
mountain peaks.
And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
straw man.
>
> Budikka
Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
Maker.
Andrew
Free Lunch
May 20, 2012, 3:31:45 PM5/20/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 12:17:20 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>"Budikka666" wrote in message news:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sphere-is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
>>
>> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
>> miles deep.
>
>Here is what happened..
We know it did not happen, that Noah's Flood is a completely fictional
exaggeration about a small local flood.
>"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
>"And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
>That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
>mountain peaks.
Nope. Once again, you show us how proud you are of your ignorance and
your lack of knowledge about history and science. Your explanation about
fossils cannot be true, the physical evidence shows us that you are
wrong.
>And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
>to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
>straw man.
How did they grow in one year?
How many lies does your god need you to tell?
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>"Budikka666" wrote in message news:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sphere-is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
>>
>> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
>> miles deep.
>
>Here is what happened..
exaggeration about a small local flood.
>"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
>"And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
>That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
>mountain peaks.
your lack of knowledge about history and science. Your explanation about
fossils cannot be true, the physical evidence shows us that you are
wrong.
>And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
>to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
>straw man.
How many lies does your god need you to tell?
Ken
May 20, 2012, 3:33:41 PM5/20/12
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On May 20, 12:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
creatormaker, Fool?
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
>
>
>
> > Budikka
>
> Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
> posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
> you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
> Maker.
>
> Andrew
>
>
Now, how about ONE piece of ACTUAL evidence for your imaginary
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
>
>
>
> > Budikka
>
> Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
> posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
> you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
> Maker.
>
> Andrew
>
>
creatormaker, Fool?
Jeanne Douglas
May 20, 2012, 8:03:40 PM5/20/12
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In article <iO-dnWxVoMVm3yTS...@earthlink.com>,
years ago. Amazing.
--
JD
"the lybian lier"
"Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net> wrote:
> "Budikka666" wrote in message
> news:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> > http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sphere-is
> > -all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
> >
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
Wow. Andy-boy is saying that Der Floode happened hundreds of millions of
> "Budikka666" wrote in message
> news:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> > http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sphere-is
> > -all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
> >
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
years ago. Amazing.
--
JD
"the lybian lier"
Devils Advocaat
May 21, 2012, 12:26:09 AM5/21/12
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On May 20, 8:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
>
>
>
> > Budikka
>
> Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
> posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
> you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
> Maker.
>
> Andrew
Let's see, the words of an alleged deity, written down long after the
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
>
>
>
> > Budikka
>
> Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
> posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
> you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
> Maker.
>
> Andrew
alleged event.
Contemporary civilisations failed to notice the alleged event.
Geological evidence fails to support alleged event.
Ergo, said event never happened.
Which means alleged deity, if real, lied.
harry k
May 21, 2012, 12:38:42 AM5/21/12
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On May 20, 12:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
>
>
>
> > Budikka
>
> Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
> posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
> you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
> Maker.
>
> Andrew
A "few" problems. If you are refering to that famous "canopy", you
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
>
>
>
> > Budikka
>
> Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
> posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
> you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
> Maker.
>
> Andrew
nuts have been told by AIG to quit using it as it can't be made to
work.
Had there been a canopy holding enough water to add significantly to
the flood, the earth would have been in total darkness 24/7 prior to
the flood.
Where did the water go after the flood? And please don't display your
ignorance with the usual "drained into the deeps' Those deeps were
already overfull with water 'covering the highest hills'.
Harry K
Wombat
May 21, 2012, 5:20:29 AM5/21/12
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On May 20, 9:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
So the Andes, Rockies, Appalachians, Himalayas, Alps, Apennines,
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
Carpathians, Pyrenees, Atlas and many, many other ranges did not exist
before Ye Floode?
Back in 1964 there was a magnitude 9.2 earthquake in Alaska. Along
some miles of the coast the land was thrust up by about 20 feet. To
raise mountain ranges throughout the world in the months or years
after Ye Floode there would need to be MANY magnitude 9 earthquakes,
so many that the
Earth would have rung like a bell. Are you really that stupid? Don't
you think that might have rated a mention in the Bible?
Wombat
May 21, 2012, 5:23:03 AM5/21/12
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banner!
Devils Advocaat
May 21, 2012, 6:08:35 AM5/21/12
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> Andrew picks up the "Floode"
> banner!
Andrew
May 21, 2012, 8:20:07 AM5/21/12
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"Wombat" wrote in message news:b2c1bc16-db95-43de...@b1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> "Andrew" wrote:
> Back in 1964 there was a magnitude 9.2 earthquake in Alaska. Along
> some miles of the coast the land was thrust up by about 20 feet. To
> raise mountain ranges throughout the world in the months or years
> after Ye Floode there would need to be MANY magnitude 9 earthquakes,
Why do you assume such a massive geologic event had to be limited
by forces that we see today?
> "Andrew" wrote:
>> "Budikka666" wrote:
>> > http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>>
>> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
>> > miles deep.
>>
>> Here is what happened..
>>
>> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
>> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
>> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
>> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
>> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>>
>> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
>> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
>> covered." v.19
>>
>> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
>> mountain peaks.
>>
>> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
>> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
>> straw man.
>
> So the Andes, Rockies, Appalachians, Himalayas, Alps, Apennines,
> Carpathians, Pyrenees, Atlas and many, many other ranges did not exist
> before Ye Floode?
Not as they do now.
>> > http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>>
>> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
>> > miles deep.
>>
>> Here is what happened..
>>
>> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
>> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
>> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
>> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
>> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>>
>> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
>> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
>> covered." v.19
>>
>> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
>> mountain peaks.
>>
>> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
>> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
>> straw man.
>
> So the Andes, Rockies, Appalachians, Himalayas, Alps, Apennines,
> Carpathians, Pyrenees, Atlas and many, many other ranges did not exist
> before Ye Floode?
> Back in 1964 there was a magnitude 9.2 earthquake in Alaska. Along
> some miles of the coast the land was thrust up by about 20 feet. To
> raise mountain ranges throughout the world in the months or years
> after Ye Floode there would need to be MANY magnitude 9 earthquakes,
by forces that we see today?
Ken
May 21, 2012, 9:08:32 AM5/21/12
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On May 21, 5:20 am, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote: nothing
worth repeating
Got ANY "real" evidence of ANYTHING you keep claiming other than
"Because I said so", Fool?
worth repeating
Got ANY "real" evidence of ANYTHING you keep claiming other than
"Because I said so", Fool?
Wombat
May 21, 2012, 9:20:56 AM5/21/12
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On May 21, 2:20 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Wombat" wrote in messagenews:b2c1bc16-db95-43de...@b1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
How did it happen then?
<snip>
> "Wombat" wrote in messagenews:b2c1bc16-db95-43de...@b1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
<snip>
Devils Advocaat
May 21, 2012, 9:48:06 AM5/21/12
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On May 20, 8:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
Given this alleged flood happened, why don't we find fossils of
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
aquatic and terrestrial organisms all mixed up together?
Wombat
May 21, 2012, 11:28:01 AM5/21/12
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Wombat
May 21, 2012, 11:25:46 AM5/21/12
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On May 21, 3:48 pm, Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 20, 8:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> > >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > > miles deep.
>
> > Here is what happened..
>
> > "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> > the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> > fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> > heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> > days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> > "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> > all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> > covered." v.19
>
> > That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> > mountain peaks.
>
> Given this alleged flood happened, why don't we find fossils of
> aquatic and terrestrial organisms all mixed up together?
While he's at it, he can explain why whale fossils are never found in
> On May 20, 8:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> > >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > > miles deep.
>
> > Here is what happened..
>
> > "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> > the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> > fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> > heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> > days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> > "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> > all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> > covered." v.19
>
> > That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> > mountain peaks.
>
> Given this alleged flood happened, why don't we find fossils of
> aquatic and terrestrial organisms all mixed up together?
the same layer as mosasaurs. That is one question Jason dodged
answering.
harry k
May 21, 2012, 10:55:10 AM5/21/12
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On May 20, 12:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
Please describe for us the process that caused ocean creatures to be
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
fossilised and encased in rock in only a year.
<snip>
Harry K
WangoTango
May 21, 2012, 1:27:27 PM5/21/12
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In article <iO-dnWxVoMVm3yTS...@earthlink.com>,
andrew....@usa.net says...
Then again, you don't care.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
The mountains are millions of years old, so they were there for any
period of time that humans walked the Earth.
Being willfully ignorant isn't any way to go through life.
andrew....@usa.net says...
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
No, it's not, and any first year geology student can tell you way.
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
Then again, you don't care.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
period of time that humans walked the Earth.
Being willfully ignorant isn't any way to go through life.
Devils Advocaat
May 21, 2012, 2:19:22 PM5/21/12
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Wombat
May 21, 2012, 3:39:24 PM5/21/12
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Devils Advocaat
May 21, 2012, 3:50:07 PM5/21/12
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duke
May 21, 2012, 4:02:34 PM5/21/12
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speed bump.
duke - American American
*****
2012 - end of an error
Vote Republican in 2012
*****
duke
May 21, 2012, 4:04:23 PM5/21/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 21:26:09 -0700 (PDT), Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com>
wrote:
What contemporary civilizations? There wasn't any people when it could have
happened.
>Geological evidence fails to support alleged event.
Spaced based radar has found buried pyramids and villages under the drifting
sands.
>
>Ergo, said event never happened.
>
>Which means alleged deity, if real, lied.
wrote:
happened.
>Geological evidence fails to support alleged event.
sands.
>
>Ergo, said event never happened.
>
>Which means alleged deity, if real, lied.
duke
May 21, 2012, 4:08:41 PM5/21/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 21:38:42 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnk...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
A canopy? Haahaahaa.
>Where did the water go after the flood? And please don't display your
>ignorance with the usual "drained into the deeps' Those deeps were
>already overfull with water 'covering the highest hills'.
It stayed right where it is. The mountains and the valleys formed later.
>Harry K
Harry still the babbling clown.
wrote:
>Where did the water go after the flood? And please don't display your
>ignorance with the usual "drained into the deeps' Those deeps were
>already overfull with water 'covering the highest hills'.
>Harry K
Harry still the babbling clown.
duke
May 21, 2012, 4:11:05 PM5/21/12
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On Mon, 21 May 2012 07:55:10 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnk...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>Harry K
Which year?
wrote:
Which year?
ilbe...@gmail.com
May 21, 2012, 4:37:36 PM5/21/12
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On May 19, 5:43 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
many marine fossils on the tops of mountains today. By the way, dId
you know that the Pacific Ocean is 7 miles deep in parts of it ?
There was a cataclysmic world wide flood at one time and land
animals and marine life got jumbled up together which is exactly what
we find in the fossil record ... and this jumbling up exists in all
the geologic layers and not neatly layed out as you find in secular
textbooks. Forsake the charade of an atheistic worldview and run to
God whos patiently waiting for you. You know he exists so why keep
running ? So you can do life the way you think it should be done ?
Wont be worth it .
> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> deep.
>
> Budikka
Silly buggar . The mountain ranges and hills ROSE up as evidence of
> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> deep.
>
> Budikka
many marine fossils on the tops of mountains today. By the way, dId
you know that the Pacific Ocean is 7 miles deep in parts of it ?
There was a cataclysmic world wide flood at one time and land
animals and marine life got jumbled up together which is exactly what
we find in the fossil record ... and this jumbling up exists in all
the geologic layers and not neatly layed out as you find in secular
textbooks. Forsake the charade of an atheistic worldview and run to
God whos patiently waiting for you. You know he exists so why keep
running ? So you can do life the way you think it should be done ?
Wont be worth it .
Andy W
May 21, 2012, 4:58:21 PM5/21/12
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On May 21, 1:20 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Wombat" wrote in messagenews:b2c1bc16-db95-43de...@b1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
Why do you assume that all the laws of physics were any different a
few thousand years ago to what they are today? I mean, apart from the
fact that you need that to be the case for your fairy tales to work.
Andy
> "Wombat" wrote in messagenews:b2c1bc16-db95-43de...@b1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
few thousand years ago to what they are today? I mean, apart from the
fact that you need that to be the case for your fairy tales to work.
Andy
Andy W
May 21, 2012, 5:09:45 PM5/21/12
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On May 21, 9:37 pm, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 19, 5:43 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> > deep.
>
> > Budikka
>
> Silly buggar . The mountain ranges and hills ROSE up as evidence of
> many marine fossils on the tops of mountains today.
Yes, over billions of years, not over a few months.
> On May 19, 5:43 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> > deep.
>
> > Budikka
>
> Silly buggar . The mountain ranges and hills ROSE up as evidence of
> many marine fossils on the tops of mountains today.
> There was a cataclysmic world wide flood at one time and land
> animals and marine life got jumbled up together which is exactly what
> we find in the fossil record ... and this jumbling up exists in all
> the geologic layers and not neatly layed out as you find in secular
> textbooks.
sometime. You think this for no other reason than that you want it to
be true, but that does not make it so.
Andy
Father Haskell
May 21, 2012, 6:15:34 PM5/21/12
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And he knows it.
Father Haskell
May 21, 2012, 6:14:09 PM5/21/12
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On May 19, 6:43 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> deep.
>
> Budikka
Europa and Enceladus each have more water than Earth. If
> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> deep.
>
> Budikka
water is an argument for a creator, then the "creator" was
drunk.
Free Lunch
May 21, 2012, 6:23:39 PM5/21/12
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On Mon, 21 May 2012 05:20:07 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>"Wombat" wrote in message news:b2c1bc16-db95-43de...@b1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>> "Budikka666" wrote:
>>> > http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>>>
>>> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
>>> > miles deep.
>>>
>>> Here is what happened..
>>>
>>> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
>>> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
>>> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
>>> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
>>> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>>>
>>> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
>>> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
>>> covered." v.19
>>>
>>> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
>>> mountain peaks.
>>>
>>> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
>>> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
>>> straw man.
>>
>> So the Andes, Rockies, Appalachians, Himalayas, Alps, Apennines,
>> Carpathians, Pyrenees, Atlas and many, many other ranges did not exist
>> before Ye Floode?
>
>Not as they do now.
All of the evidence shows that no such flood ever happened and that your
claims about mountains are false.
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>"Wombat" wrote in message news:b2c1bc16-db95-43de...@b1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>> "Budikka666" wrote:
>>> > http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>>>
>>> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
>>> > miles deep.
>>>
>>> Here is what happened..
>>>
>>> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
>>> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
>>> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
>>> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
>>> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>>>
>>> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
>>> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
>>> covered." v.19
>>>
>>> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
>>> mountain peaks.
>>>
>>> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
>>> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
>>> straw man.
>>
>> So the Andes, Rockies, Appalachians, Himalayas, Alps, Apennines,
>> Carpathians, Pyrenees, Atlas and many, many other ranges did not exist
>> before Ye Floode?
>
>Not as they do now.
claims about mountains are false.
>
>> Back in 1964 there was a magnitude 9.2 earthquake in Alaska. Along
>> some miles of the coast the land was thrust up by about 20 feet. To
>> raise mountain ranges throughout the world in the months or years
>> after Ye Floode there would need to be MANY magnitude 9 earthquakes,
>
>Why do you assume such a massive geologic event had to be limited
>by forces that we see today?
>
Reality.
>> Back in 1964 there was a magnitude 9.2 earthquake in Alaska. Along
>> some miles of the coast the land was thrust up by about 20 feet. To
>> raise mountain ranges throughout the world in the months or years
>> after Ye Floode there would need to be MANY magnitude 9 earthquakes,
>
>Why do you assume such a massive geologic event had to be limited
>by forces that we see today?
>
Free Lunch
May 21, 2012, 6:24:57 PM5/21/12
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On Mon, 21 May 2012 15:11:05 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
alt.talk.creationism:
Any year. Don't you understand what absurd claims are made when people
allege that the Flood happened?
alt.talk.creationism:
allege that the Flood happened?
Free Lunch
May 21, 2012, 6:25:24 PM5/21/12
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On Mon, 21 May 2012 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
alt.talk.creationism:
Not while there were human beings.
alt.talk.creationism:
Free Lunch
May 21, 2012, 6:28:22 PM5/21/12
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On Mon, 21 May 2012 13:37:36 -0700 (PDT), "IlBe...@gmail.com"
<ilbe...@gmail.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>On May 19, 5:43 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
>> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>>
>> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
>> deep.
>>
>> Budikka
>
>Silly buggar . The mountain ranges and hills ROSE up as evidence of
>many marine fossils on the tops of mountains today.
The physical evidence shows us that Noah's Flood did not happen. You
have been lied to by professional frauds about the events that never
happened.
>By the way, dId
>you know that the Pacific Ocean is 7 miles deep in parts of it ?
So?
>There was a cataclysmic world wide flood at one time
No, there was not. That claim is a false doctrine.
>and land animals and marine life got jumbled up together
Again, you do not know what you are talking about.
> which is exactly what we find in the fossil record
We do not find that in the fossil record. You have been misled and are
too ignorant to realize that you have been conned by people spreading
false doctrines.
>... and this jumbling up exists in all
>the geologic layers and not neatly layed out as you find in secular
>textbooks.
More falsehoods from you.
>Forsake the charade of an atheistic worldview and run to
>God whos patiently waiting for you. You know he exists so why keep
>running ? So you can do life the way you think it should be done ?
>Wont be worth it .
Why would I feel a need to worship a god who demands that I tell lies
the way you seem to think your god does?
<ilbe...@gmail.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>On May 19, 5:43 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
>> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>>
>> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
>> deep.
>>
>> Budikka
>
>Silly buggar . The mountain ranges and hills ROSE up as evidence of
>many marine fossils on the tops of mountains today.
have been lied to by professional frauds about the events that never
happened.
>By the way, dId
>you know that the Pacific Ocean is 7 miles deep in parts of it ?
>There was a cataclysmic world wide flood at one time
>and land animals and marine life got jumbled up together
> which is exactly what we find in the fossil record
too ignorant to realize that you have been conned by people spreading
false doctrines.
>... and this jumbling up exists in all
>the geologic layers and not neatly layed out as you find in secular
>textbooks.
>Forsake the charade of an atheistic worldview and run to
>God whos patiently waiting for you. You know he exists so why keep
>running ? So you can do life the way you think it should be done ?
>Wont be worth it .
the way you seem to think your god does?
Free Lunch
May 21, 2012, 7:16:02 PM5/21/12
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On Mon, 21 May 2012 15:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
<father...@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
Andrew gets very offended when his intentional lies are pointed out to
him.
<father...@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
him.
linuxgal
May 21, 2012, 9:25:56 PM5/21/12
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duke wrote:
> Bud da dud de caca still doesn't get it that Mt Everest was at one time just a
> speed bump.
But in 2507 BCE it was still about 29,000 feet tall.
> Bud da dud de caca still doesn't get it that Mt Everest was at one time just a
> speed bump.
harry k
May 21, 2012, 11:35:07 PM5/21/12
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On May 21, 1:08 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 20 May 2012 21:38:42 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
So mountains grew 5 miles high in only a few y ears? Do you realize
the chaos that would result from that?
Harry K
> On Sun, 20 May 2012 21:38:42 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
the chaos that would result from that?
Harry K
harry k
May 21, 2012, 11:39:03 PM5/21/12
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surprise.
Where did te water come from?
Where did the water go?
Harry K
Wombat
May 22, 2012, 1:03:35 AM5/22/12
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a husband".
Devils Advocaat
May 22, 2012, 1:34:10 AM5/22/12
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If you are, it could turn into a turf war.
Wombat
May 22, 2012, 4:50:39 AM5/22/12
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Devils Advocaat
May 22, 2012, 6:22:10 AM5/22/12
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Wombat
May 22, 2012, 6:36:33 AM5/22/12
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nursing mother"
Alex W.
May 22, 2012, 7:28:21 AM5/22/12
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Wombat
May 22, 2012, 7:50:49 AM5/22/12
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duke
May 22, 2012, 8:06:31 AM5/22/12
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On Mon, 21 May 2012 20:35:07 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnk...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>Harry K
wrote:
>So mountains grew 5 miles high in only a few y ears? Do you realize
>the chaos that would result from that?
What few years? How long did it take the Grand Canyon to form?
>the chaos that would result from that?
>Harry K
duke
May 22, 2012, 8:07:57 AM5/22/12
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years old. Truthfully, the earth is 4.5 billion years old.
duke
May 22, 2012, 8:08:28 AM5/22/12
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duke
May 22, 2012, 8:10:29 AM5/22/12
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long time.
Devils Advocaat
May 22, 2012, 9:09:11 AM5/22/12
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about slapping me with a dirty diaper. :P
Wombat
May 22, 2012, 9:57:46 AM5/22/12
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harry k
May 22, 2012, 11:23:57 AM5/22/12
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On May 22, 5:06 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 May 2012 20:35:07 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
Several million years as any educated person knows. The scholars
still haven't settled on a firm age but it ranges from 70 million to
17 million according to:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.creationism/browse_frm/thread/5750eccaf523d3f7/ecadbc98def4cac4#ecadbc98def4cac4
I suppose you don't even know that it is _still_ forming and gettign
deeper.
Harry K
> On Mon, 21 May 2012 20:35:07 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
still haven't settled on a firm age but it ranges from 70 million to
17 million according to:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.creationism/browse_frm/thread/5750eccaf523d3f7/ecadbc98def4cac4#ecadbc98def4cac4
I suppose you don't even know that it is _still_ forming and gettign
deeper.
Harry K
harry k
May 22, 2012, 11:25:22 AM5/22/12
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On May 21, 3:25 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 May 2012 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in
> alt.talk.creationism:
Harry K
> On Mon, 21 May 2012 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in
> alt.talk.creationism:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Sun, 20 May 2012 12:17:20 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
>
> >>"Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >>>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Sun, 20 May 2012 12:17:20 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
>
> >>"Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >>>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> >>> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> >>> miles deep.
>
> >>Here is what happened..
>
> >>"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> >> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> >> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> >> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> >> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> >>"And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> >> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> >> covered." v.19
>
> >>That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> >>mountain peaks.
>
> >>And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> >>to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> >>straw man.
>
> >>> Budikka
>
> >>Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
> >>posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
> >>you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
> >>Maker.
>
> >Bud da dud de caca still doesn't get it that Mt Everest was at one time just a
> >speed bump.
>
> Not while there were human beings.
So you agree that shoots down your "grew during/after the flood"?
> >>> miles deep.
>
> >>Here is what happened..
>
> >>"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> >> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> >> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> >> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> >> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> >>"And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> >> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> >> covered." v.19
>
> >>That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> >>mountain peaks.
>
> >>And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> >>to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> >>straw man.
>
> >>> Budikka
>
> >>Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
> >>posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
> >>you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
> >>Maker.
>
> >Bud da dud de caca still doesn't get it that Mt Everest was at one time just a
> >speed bump.
>
> Not while there were human beings.
Harry K
harry k
May 22, 2012, 11:26:52 AM5/22/12
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On May 22, 5:10 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
before...
Don't you know anything?
Harry K
> On Mon, 21 May 2012 18:25:56 -0700, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
> >duke wrote:
>
> >> Bud da dud de caca still doesn't get it that Mt Everest was at one time just a
> >> speed bump.
>
> >But in 2507 BCE it was still about 29,000 feet tall.
>
> Absolutely. And the Grand Canyon has been 6000 feet at it's deepest for a long,
> long time.
>
> duke - American American
>
> *****
> 2012 - end of an error
> Vote Republican in 2012
> *****
It's deeper today than it was last year...and the year before...and
> >duke wrote:
>
> >> Bud da dud de caca still doesn't get it that Mt Everest was at one time just a
> >> speed bump.
>
> >But in 2507 BCE it was still about 29,000 feet tall.
>
> Absolutely. And the Grand Canyon has been 6000 feet at it's deepest for a long,
> long time.
>
> duke - American American
>
> *****
> 2012 - end of an error
> Vote Republican in 2012
> *****
before...
Don't you know anything?
Harry K
harry k
May 22, 2012, 11:25:56 AM5/22/12
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On May 21, 3:25 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 May 2012 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in
> alt.talk.creationism:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Sun, 20 May 2012 12:17:20 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
>
> >>"Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >>>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
>
> >>"Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >>>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> >>> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> >>> miles deep.
>
> >>Here is what happened..
>
> >>"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> >> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> >> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> >> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> >> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> >>"And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> >> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> >> covered." v.19
>
> >>That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> >>mountain peaks.
>
> >>And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> >>to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> >>straw man.
>
> >>> Budikka
>
> >>Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
> >>posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
> >>you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
> >>Maker.
>
> >Bud da dud de caca still doesn't get it that Mt Everest was at one time just a
> >speed bump.
>
> Not while there were human beings.
Ooops. tied to wrong messasge, was meant for Duke the moron.
> >>> miles deep.
>
> >>Here is what happened..
>
> >>"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> >> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> >> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> >> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> >> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> >>"And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> >> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> >> covered." v.19
>
> >>That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> >>mountain peaks.
>
> >>And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> >>to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> >>straw man.
>
> >>> Budikka
>
> >>Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
> >>posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
> >>you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
> >>Maker.
>
> >Bud da dud de caca still doesn't get it that Mt Everest was at one time just a
> >speed bump.
>
> Not while there were human beings.
Harry K
Tom McDonald
May 22, 2012, 12:11:21 PM5/22/12
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time the Himalayas reached their present height. Do you assert that they
reached their present height in the time since humans came to be on the
Earth?
When do you think the Floode happened?
> How long did it take the Grand Canyon to form?
Canyon are the subject of debate by geologists,[4] recent evidence
suggests the Colorado River established its course through the canyon at
least 17 million years ago.[5][6] Since that time, the Colorado River
continued to erode and form the canyon to its present-day configuration.[7]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Canyon
There were no humans in the world 17 mya. If the flood carved the
canyon, when in that 17 my did it happen?
Tom McDonald
May 22, 2012, 12:12:13 PM5/22/12
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The Magpie
May 22, 2012, 4:04:18 PM5/22/12
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> Bud da dud de caca still doesn't get it that Mt Everest was at
> one time just a speed bump.
>
Well, yes he / she does... and probably knows it is the youngest
modern mountain range too. None of which changes the criticisms,
which you did not address at all.
You really should avoid trying to "win arguments" by being personal.
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>
> Bud da dud de caca still doesn't get it that Mt Everest was at
> one time just a speed bump.
>
modern mountain range too. None of which changes the criticisms,
which you did not address at all.
You really should avoid trying to "win arguments" by being personal.
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Free Lunch
May 22, 2012, 6:35:04 PM5/22/12
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 07:07:57 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
And Noah's Flood never happened as described in the Bible.
Free Lunch
May 22, 2012, 6:35:56 PM5/22/12
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 07:10:29 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
alt.talk.creationism:
Voting Republican is evidence that you reject what Jesus taught.
alt.talk.creationism:
Caranx latus
May 22, 2012, 6:44:27 PM5/22/12
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Caranx latus
May 22, 2012, 7:16:38 PM5/22/12
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to be layed down. That started 1.2 billion years ago.
Father Haskell
May 22, 2012, 9:48:17 PM5/22/12
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On May 20, 3:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
Thrust faulting.
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
duke
May 23, 2012, 11:32:51 AM5/23/12
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 08:23:57 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnk...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.creationism/browse_frm/thread/5750eccaf523d3f7/ecadbc98def4cac4#ecadbc98def4cac4
>I suppose you don't even know that it is _still_ forming and gettign
>deeper.
>Harry K
Surprise, hk, but you just stepped in your own deaux-deaux.
wrote:
>Several million years as any educated person knows. The scholars
>still haven't settled on a firm age but it ranges from 70 million to
>17 million according to:
And yet you suggest that mountains grew 5 miles high in only a few years????
>still haven't settled on a firm age but it ranges from 70 million to
>17 million according to:
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.creationism/browse_frm/thread/5750eccaf523d3f7/ecadbc98def4cac4#ecadbc98def4cac4
>I suppose you don't even know that it is _still_ forming and gettign
>deeper.
>Harry K
duke
May 23, 2012, 11:35:59 AM5/23/12
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 11:11:21 -0500, Tom McDonald <tmcdon...@charter.net>
wrote:
Well, let's see. The bible says that Gen 1-11, which includes the flood, is not
scientific in time. That means the flood, Mt Everest and the Grand Canyon
started and reached their present conditions sometimes in the last 4.5 billion
years.
>When do you think the Floode happened?
Around the time Mt. Everest grew from more than a speed bump.
>> How long did it take the Grand Canyon to form?
>" While the specific geologic processes and timing that formed the Grand
>Canyon are the subject of debate by geologists,[4] recent evidence
>suggests the Colorado River established its course through the canyon at
>least 17 million years ago.[5][6] Since that time, the Colorado River
>continued to erode and form the canyon to its present-day configuration.[7]"
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Canyon
Heeheehee.
>There were no humans in the world 17 mya. If the flood carved the
>canyon, when in that 17 my did it happen?
Becasue there were no humans doesn't mean it didn't happen.
wrote:
scientific in time. That means the flood, Mt Everest and the Grand Canyon
started and reached their present conditions sometimes in the last 4.5 billion
years.
>When do you think the Floode happened?
>> How long did it take the Grand Canyon to form?
>" While the specific geologic processes and timing that formed the Grand
>Canyon are the subject of debate by geologists,[4] recent evidence
>suggests the Colorado River established its course through the canyon at
>least 17 million years ago.[5][6] Since that time, the Colorado River
>continued to erode and form the canyon to its present-day configuration.[7]"
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Canyon
>There were no humans in the world 17 mya. If the flood carved the
>canyon, when in that 17 my did it happen?
duke
May 23, 2012, 11:36:41 AM5/23/12
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 11:12:13 -0500, Tom McDonald <tmcdon...@charter.net>
wrote:
IF...........he did, it would be sometime in the last 4.5 billion years.
wrote:
duke
May 23, 2012, 11:37:40 AM5/23/12
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 08:26:52 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnk...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Yep, I know you stepped in a pile of cow shift on this one.
wrote:
duke
May 23, 2012, 11:37:06 AM5/23/12
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duke
May 23, 2012, 11:38:54 AM5/23/12
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:35:56 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>On Tue, 22 May 2012 07:10:29 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>alt.talk.creationism:
>
>>On Mon, 21 May 2012 18:25:56 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>>
>>>duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bud da dud de caca still doesn't get it that Mt Everest was at one time just a
>>>> speed bump.
>>>
>>>But in 2507 BCE it was still about 29,000 feet tall.
>>
>>Absolutely. And the Grand Canyon has been 6000 feet at it's deepest for a long,
>>long time.
>On Tue, 22 May 2012 07:10:29 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>alt.talk.creationism:
>
>>On Mon, 21 May 2012 18:25:56 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>>
>>>duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bud da dud de caca still doesn't get it that Mt Everest was at one time just a
>>>> speed bump.
>>>
>>>But in 2507 BCE it was still about 29,000 feet tall.
>>
>>Absolutely. And the Grand Canyon has been 6000 feet at it's deepest for a long,
>>long time.
>Voting Republican is evidence that you reject what Jesus taught.
Sorry, Jesus taught us to render unto country that which is country, and unto
God that which is God's.
'rats stick their hand out and say "gimme somting, mistr".
duke
May 23, 2012, 11:39:57 AM5/23/12
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 21:04:18 +0100, The Magpie <use...@pigsinspace.co.uk> wrote:
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>On 21/05/2012 21:02, duke wrote:
>>
>> Bud da dud de caca still doesn't get it that Mt Everest was at
>> one time just a speed bump.
>>
>Well, yes he / she does... and probably knows it is the youngest
>modern mountain range too. None of which changes the criticisms,
>which you did not address at all.
No, she doesn't. And I've been dealing with her a lot longer than you have.
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>On 21/05/2012 21:02, duke wrote:
>>
>> Bud da dud de caca still doesn't get it that Mt Everest was at
>> one time just a speed bump.
>>
>Well, yes he / she does... and probably knows it is the youngest
>modern mountain range too. None of which changes the criticisms,
>which you did not address at all.
>You really should avoid trying to "win arguments" by being personal.
Tom McDonald
May 23, 2012, 12:01:00 PM5/23/12
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didn't happen as described in the Bible.
Caranx latus
May 23, 2012, 11:41:06 AM5/23/12
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On May 23, 11:35 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2012 11:11:21 -0500, Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2...@charter.net>
That would be about 65 million years ago.
> >> How long did it take the Grand Canyon to form?
> >" While the specific geologic processes and timing that formed the Grand
> >Canyon are the subject of debate by geologists,[4] recent evidence
> >suggests the Colorado River established its course through the canyon at
> >least 17 million years ago.[5][6] Since that time, the Colorado River
> >continued to erode and form the canyon to its present-day configuration.[7]"
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Canyon
>
> Heeheehee.
>
> >There were no humans in the world 17 mya. If the flood carved the
> >canyon, when in that 17 my did it happen?
>
> Becasue there were no humans doesn't mean it didn't happen.
If there were no humans when the Flood happened then there was no
Noah, no ark. Do you accept that?
> On Tue, 22 May 2012 11:11:21 -0500, Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2...@charter.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On 5/22/2012 7:06 AM, duke wrote:
> >> On Mon, 21 May 2012 20:35:07 -0700 (PDT), harry k<turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On 5/22/2012 7:06 AM, duke wrote:
> >> How long did it take the Grand Canyon to form?
> >" While the specific geologic processes and timing that formed the Grand
> >Canyon are the subject of debate by geologists,[4] recent evidence
> >suggests the Colorado River established its course through the canyon at
> >least 17 million years ago.[5][6] Since that time, the Colorado River
> >continued to erode and form the canyon to its present-day configuration.[7]"
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Canyon
>
> Heeheehee.
>
> >There were no humans in the world 17 mya. If the flood carved the
> >canyon, when in that 17 my did it happen?
>
> Becasue there were no humans doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Noah, no ark. Do you accept that?
Free Lunch
May 23, 2012, 6:17:39 PM5/23/12
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On Wed, 23 May 2012 10:37:06 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
And you were doing so well. The physical evidence shows that Noah's
Flood is a complete facbrication, a purely fictional exaggeration of a
local flood story. Paul Bunyan stories are more grounded in fact.
Flood is a complete facbrication, a purely fictional exaggeration of a
local flood story. Paul Bunyan stories are more grounded in fact.
Free Lunch
May 23, 2012, 6:18:12 PM5/23/12
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On Wed, 23 May 2012 10:38:54 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
alt.talk.creationism:
>On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:35:56 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 22 May 2012 07:10:29 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>>alt.talk.creationism:
>>
>>>On Mon, 21 May 2012 18:25:56 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bud da dud de caca still doesn't get it that Mt Everest was at one time just a
>>>>> speed bump.
>>>>
>>>>But in 2507 BCE it was still about 29,000 feet tall.
>>>
>>>Absolutely. And the Grand Canyon has been 6000 feet at it's deepest for a long,
>>>long time.
>
>>Voting Republican is evidence that you reject what Jesus taught.
>
>Sorry, Jesus taught us to render unto country that which is country, and unto
>God that which is God's.
>
>'rats stick their hand out and say "gimme somting, mistr".
Republicans reject everything Jesus taught in the Sermon on the Mount.
>On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:35:56 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 22 May 2012 07:10:29 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>>alt.talk.creationism:
>>
>>>On Mon, 21 May 2012 18:25:56 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bud da dud de caca still doesn't get it that Mt Everest was at one time just a
>>>>> speed bump.
>>>>
>>>>But in 2507 BCE it was still about 29,000 feet tall.
>>>
>>>Absolutely. And the Grand Canyon has been 6000 feet at it's deepest for a long,
>>>long time.
>
>>Voting Republican is evidence that you reject what Jesus taught.
>
>Sorry, Jesus taught us to render unto country that which is country, and unto
>God that which is God's.
>
>'rats stick their hand out and say "gimme somting, mistr".
linuxgal
May 23, 2012, 8:39:54 PM5/23/12
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Free Lunch wrote:
> Republicans reject everything Jesus taught in the Sermon on the Mount.
Except for one thing:
> Republicans reject everything Jesus taught in the Sermon on the Mount.
Matthew 5:
[11] Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and
shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
[12] Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven:
for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
Republicans are very good at that.
Free Lunch
May 23, 2012, 8:59:32 PM5/23/12
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On Wed, 23 May 2012 17:39:54 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
But they are validly reviled.
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
harry k
May 23, 2012, 11:53:17 PM5/23/12
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On May 23, 8:32 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2012 08:23:57 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.creationism/browse_frm/thread...
Harry K
> On Tue, 22 May 2012 08:23:57 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
> >I suppose you don't even know that it is _still_ forming and gettign
> >deeper.
> >Harry K
>
> Surprise, hk, but you just stepped in your own deaux-deaux.
>
> duke - American American
>
> *****
> 2012 - end of an error
> Vote Republican in 2012
> *****
Care to post something that refutes what I said?
> >deeper.
> >Harry K
>
> Surprise, hk, but you just stepped in your own deaux-deaux.
>
> duke - American American
>
> *****
> 2012 - end of an error
> Vote Republican in 2012
> *****
Harry K
harry k
May 23, 2012, 11:59:00 PM5/23/12
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On May 23, 8:37 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2012 08:26:52 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
I notice dthat you haven't refuted it and that is the second time you
didn't. Having a problem are you?
Harry K
> On Tue, 22 May 2012 08:26:52 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
didn't. Having a problem are you?
Harry K
Devils Advocaat
May 24, 2012, 1:37:48 AM5/24/12
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On May 22, 2:57 pm, Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:
> On May 22, 3:09 pm, Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On May 22, 11:36 am, Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:
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> > > On May 22, 12:22 pm, Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On May 22, 3:09 pm, Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On May 22, 11:36 am, Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:
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> > > On May 22, 12:22 pm, Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 22, 9:50 am, Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 22, 7:34 am, Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 22, 6:03 am, Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On May 21, 9:50 pm, Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On May 21, 8:39 pm, Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > On May 21, 8:19 pm, Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > On May 21, 4:28 pm, Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > On May 21, 12:08 pm, Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > On May 21, 10:23 am, Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:
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> > > > > On May 22, 7:34 am, Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 22, 6:03 am, Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On May 21, 9:50 pm, Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On May 21, 8:39 pm, Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > On May 21, 8:19 pm, Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > On May 21, 4:28 pm, Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On May 21, 12:08 pm, Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On May 21, 10:23 am, Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where did the water go after the flood? And please don't display your
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ignorance with the usual "drained into the deeps' Those deeps were
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > already overfull with water 'covering the highest hills'.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ignorance with the usual "drained into the deeps' Those deeps were
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > already overfull with water 'covering the highest hills'.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harry K
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > So with Jason henpecked into silence,
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Nobody sent any hens to peck him.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Is pussy whipped more to your taste?
>
> > > > > > > > > > I doubt any self-respecting pussy would go anywhere near him.
>
> > > > > > > > > Bitch slapping?
>
> > > > > > > > Do you know any bitch that would sully her hand by slapping him?
>
> > > > > > > Sod it! From Collins English Dictionary: "henpeck - to domineer over
> > > > > > > a husband".
>
> > > > > > I hope you aren't bringing gardening into this thread.
>
> > > > > > If you are, it could turn into a turf war.
>
> > > > > I surrender!
>
> > > > Aww shame!
>
> > > Further then: "I surrender - Pax - I'm unarmed - you wouldn't hit a
> > > nursing mother"
>
> > Indeed not, but I suspect the nursing mother wouldn't think twice
> > about slapping me with a dirty diaper. :P
>
> You didn't recognise Major Bloodnok?
Sorry to say, I don't :(
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > So with Jason henpecked into silence,
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Nobody sent any hens to peck him.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Is pussy whipped more to your taste?
>
> > > > > > > > > > I doubt any self-respecting pussy would go anywhere near him.
>
> > > > > > > > > Bitch slapping?
>
> > > > > > > > Do you know any bitch that would sully her hand by slapping him?
>
> > > > > > > Sod it! From Collins English Dictionary: "henpeck - to domineer over
> > > > > > > a husband".
>
> > > > > > I hope you aren't bringing gardening into this thread.
>
> > > > > > If you are, it could turn into a turf war.
>
> > > > > I surrender!
>
> > > > Aww shame!
>
> > > Further then: "I surrender - Pax - I'm unarmed - you wouldn't hit a
> > > nursing mother"
>
> > Indeed not, but I suspect the nursing mother wouldn't think twice
> > about slapping me with a dirty diaper. :P
>
> You didn't recognise Major Bloodnok?
Wombat
May 24, 2012, 2:05:19 AM5/24/12
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Brighton" first transmitted 15/10/54 on the Home Service.
harry k
May 24, 2012, 12:48:02 PM5/24/12
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away.
Harry K
duke
May 25, 2012, 12:35:26 PM5/25/12
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On Thu, 24 May 2012 09:48:02 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnk...@hotmail.com>
speed bump. A "smooth surface" earth does not take much water to make a visible
depth of a flood.
wrote:
>On May 23, 8:59�pm, harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 23, 8:37�am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > On Tue, 22 May 2012 08:26:52 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > >On May 22, 5:10�am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > >> On Mon, 21 May 2012 18:25:56 -0700, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>> > >> >duke wrote:
>>
>> > >> >> Bud da dud de caca still doesn't get it that Mt Everest was at one time just a
>> > >> >> speed bump.
>>
>> > >> >But in 2507 BCE it was still about 29,000 feet tall.
>>
>> > >> Absolutely. �And the Grand Canyon has been 6000 feet at it's deepest for a long,
>> > >> long time.
>On May 23, 8:59�pm, harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 23, 8:37�am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > On Tue, 22 May 2012 08:26:52 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > >On May 22, 5:10�am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > >> On Mon, 21 May 2012 18:25:56 -0700, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>> > >> >duke wrote:
>>
>> > >> >> Bud da dud de caca still doesn't get it that Mt Everest was at one time just a
>> > >> >> speed bump.
>>
>> > >> >But in 2507 BCE it was still about 29,000 feet tall.
>>
>> > >> Absolutely. �And the Grand Canyon has been 6000 feet at it's deepest for a long,
>> > >> long time.
>> > >It's deeper today than it was last year...and the year before...and
>> > >before...
>> > >Don't you know anything?
>> > Yep, I know you stepped in a pile of cow shift on this one.
>> > >before...
>> > >Don't you know anything?
>> > Yep, I know you stepped in a pile of cow shift on this one.
>> I notice dthat you haven't refuted it and that is the second time you
>> didn't. �Having a problem are you?
My statement was conclusive when I stated that at one time Mt Everest was just a
>> didn't. �Having a problem are you?
speed bump. A "smooth surface" earth does not take much water to make a visible
depth of a flood.
Wombat
May 25, 2012, 3:15:41 PM5/25/12
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On May 25, 6:35 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2012 09:48:02 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
So when was Ye Floode? Was there a human yclept Noah involved?
> On Thu, 24 May 2012 09:48:02 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
Caranx latus
May 25, 2012, 4:24:32 PM5/25/12
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On May 25, 12:35 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2012 09:48:02 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
It may have had when it was entirely molten, but some things never
change. Continental crust is lighter than oceanic crust.
> On Thu, 24 May 2012 09:48:02 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On May 23, 8:59 pm, harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On May 23, 8:37 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 22 May 2012 08:26:52 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
>
> >> > >On May 22, 5:10 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> > >> On Mon, 21 May 2012 18:25:56 -0700, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
> >> > >> >duke wrote:
>
> >> > >> >> Bud da dud de caca still doesn't get it that Mt Everest was at one time just a
> >> > >> >> speed bump.
>
> >> > >> >But in 2507 BCE it was still about 29,000 feet tall.
>
> >> > >> Absolutely. And the Grand Canyon has been 6000 feet at it's deepest for a long,
> >> > >> long time.
> >> > >It's deeper today than it was last year...and the year before...and
> >> > >before...
> >> > >Don't you know anything?
> >> > Yep, I know you stepped in a pile of cow shift on this one.
> >> I notice dthat you haven't refuted it and that is the second time you
> >> didn't. Having a problem are you?
>
> My statement was conclusive when I stated that at one time Mt Everest was just a
> speed bump. A "smooth surface" earth does not take much water to make a visible
> depth of a flood.
And where's your evidence that the earth ever had a "smooth surface"?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On May 23, 8:59 pm, harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On May 23, 8:37 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 22 May 2012 08:26:52 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
>
> >> > >On May 22, 5:10 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> > >> On Mon, 21 May 2012 18:25:56 -0700, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
> >> > >> >duke wrote:
>
> >> > >> >> Bud da dud de caca still doesn't get it that Mt Everest was at one time just a
> >> > >> >> speed bump.
>
> >> > >> >But in 2507 BCE it was still about 29,000 feet tall.
>
> >> > >> Absolutely. And the Grand Canyon has been 6000 feet at it's deepest for a long,
> >> > >> long time.
> >> > >It's deeper today than it was last year...and the year before...and
> >> > >before...
> >> > >Don't you know anything?
> >> > Yep, I know you stepped in a pile of cow shift on this one.
> >> I notice dthat you haven't refuted it and that is the second time you
> >> didn't. Having a problem are you?
>
> My statement was conclusive when I stated that at one time Mt Everest was just a
> speed bump. A "smooth surface" earth does not take much water to make a visible
> depth of a flood.
It may have had when it was entirely molten, but some things never
change. Continental crust is lighter than oceanic crust.
Mike Painter
May 25, 2012, 8:27:32 PM5/25/12
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""I repeat: Hitler gassed 6 million Jews because **he** was evil. God
flooded the world to rid it of the source of all evil."
Earl has stated that he does not believe in a biblical flood.
"Do I believe the flood story literal - no. A story from long ago about
how God punishes evil and those that stand against him. Equally brought
out in the golden calf story and Moses."
Earl has stated that a flood in the early days of the earth, over 4
billion years ago fits the description of the biblical flood.
" The biblical flood fits in perfectly with the earlier solidification
and formation and of the earth's surface being very featureless and the
continents all connected."
Pick any or all of them for his answer.
linuxgal
May 25, 2012, 11:14:38 PM5/25/12
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duke wrote:
>
> My statement was conclusive when I stated that at one time Mt Everest was just a
> speed bump. A "smooth surface" earth does not take much water to make a visible
> depth of a flood.
So I guess the whole evolution revolution passed you Young Earthers
>
> My statement was conclusive when I stated that at one time Mt Everest was just a
> speed bump. A "smooth surface" earth does not take much water to make a visible
> depth of a flood.
right the fuck by.
harry k
May 25, 2012, 11:49:12 PM5/25/12
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On May 25, 9:35 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2012 09:48:02 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
So how many years did it take for Everest to rise 5 miles?
Harry K
> On Thu, 24 May 2012 09:48:02 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
Harry K
Wombat
May 26, 2012, 1:19:33 AM5/26/12
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billion years before Noah could have ived, though? Queen of Hearts,
anyone?
Malte Runz
May 26, 2012, 6:45:20 PM5/26/12
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"duke" skrev i meddelelsen
news:qvcvr7pv68jig1mc0...@4ax.com...
>
(snip)
Where did the water come from? You have no answer, that hasn't been debunked
ad nauseam.
What made the mountains grow so rapidly? You have no clue!
What made the growth decelerate to the speeds we can observe today? Ditto.
You can't answer that.
I simply do not understand why you creationist and other flood-believers
cannot see, that your goal should be to falsify any natural explanation for
the sudden appearance of the waters, and victoriously state that only God
could have willed the water into existence. That's what you do when you
attack the ToE. Eliminate the scientific explanation and invoke God.
The big difference is of course that there are rapidly growing mountains of
evidence for evolution and natural selection, and absolutely no evidence
supporting the idea that there even was a flood. And there is no evidence
that supports the idea of life having been created all at once, but plenty
of evidence that there never was a flood.
Face it. You have nothing, and you're too, eh... logically challenged to be
able to see that if your were actually able to answer my questions, and back
them up with solid scientific evidence, you'd have eliminated the need for a
pissed of god to have deliberately created the havoc. It would just have
been another natural phenomenon, excactly like abiogenesis and evolution and
natural selection.
By the way, you never answered this one, from another thread:
***
> >Are clouds created? Trees? Cars? Cats? Turds?
>
> Yes they are. Where do you think they come from?
Clouds and cars are both created, you say. Who creates clouds?"
***
--
Malte Runz
news:qvcvr7pv68jig1mc0...@4ax.com...
>
(snip)
>
> My statement was conclusive when I stated that at one time Mt Everest was
> just a
> speed bump. A "smooth surface" earth does not take much water to make a
> visible
> depth of a flood.
Do you have any evidence that confirms your statements? No!
> My statement was conclusive when I stated that at one time Mt Everest was
> just a
> speed bump. A "smooth surface" earth does not take much water to make a
> visible
> depth of a flood.
Where did the water come from? You have no answer, that hasn't been debunked
ad nauseam.
What made the mountains grow so rapidly? You have no clue!
What made the growth decelerate to the speeds we can observe today? Ditto.
You can't answer that.
I simply do not understand why you creationist and other flood-believers
cannot see, that your goal should be to falsify any natural explanation for
the sudden appearance of the waters, and victoriously state that only God
could have willed the water into existence. That's what you do when you
attack the ToE. Eliminate the scientific explanation and invoke God.
The big difference is of course that there are rapidly growing mountains of
evidence for evolution and natural selection, and absolutely no evidence
supporting the idea that there even was a flood. And there is no evidence
that supports the idea of life having been created all at once, but plenty
of evidence that there never was a flood.
Face it. You have nothing, and you're too, eh... logically challenged to be
able to see that if your were actually able to answer my questions, and back
them up with solid scientific evidence, you'd have eliminated the need for a
pissed of god to have deliberately created the havoc. It would just have
been another natural phenomenon, excactly like abiogenesis and evolution and
natural selection.
By the way, you never answered this one, from another thread:
***
> >Are clouds created? Trees? Cars? Cats? Turds?
>
> Yes they are. Where do you think they come from?
Clouds and cars are both created, you say. Who creates clouds?"
***
--
Malte Runz
Andrew
May 26, 2012, 11:27:14 PM5/26/12
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"Malte Runz" wrote in message news:4fc15cff$0$292$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk...
> "duke" skrev:
> Where did the water come from? You have no answer,
This is what happened...
"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
"And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
covered." v.19
That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
mountain peaks.
of rock to its summit, in just FIVE (5) days.. http://bit.ly/JMk3KZ
> What made the growth decelerate to the speeds we can observe
> today?
Everything stops growing, eventually. (Almost everything.)
> I simply do not understand why you creationist and other flood-believers
> cannot see, that your goal should be to falsify any natural explanation for
> the sudden appearance of the waters,
So you acknowledge that there WAS a "sudden appearance of the waters".
> and victoriously state that only God could have willed the water into
> existence.
He wills for you to share the glories of eternity with Him forever..if you will.
> That's what you do when you attack the ToE.
The ToE isn't ALL wrong; just the part that is false, which is most of it.
> Eliminate the scientific explanation and invoke God.
Since creation points to the existence of its Creator, the true scientist
will acknowledge the Creator of the material world which they study.
"Newton saw God as the masterful creator whose existence could
not be denied in the face of the grandeur of all creation..The Bible
was Sir Isaac Newton's greatest passion. He devoted more time to
the study of Scripture than to science, and he said, "I have a fun-
damental belief in the Bible as the Word of God, written by those
who were inspired. I study the Bible daily."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton's_religious_views
> "duke" skrev:
> (snip)
>>
>> My statement was conclusive when I stated that at one time Mt Everest
>> was just a speed bump. A "smooth surface" earth does not take much
>> water to make a visible depth of a flood.
>
> Do you have any evidence that confirms your statements? No!
The antediluvian world was much different than what we see today.
>>
>> My statement was conclusive when I stated that at one time Mt Everest
>> was just a speed bump. A "smooth surface" earth does not take much
>> water to make a visible depth of a flood.
>
> Do you have any evidence that confirms your statements? No!
> Where did the water come from? You have no answer,
"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
"And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
covered." v.19
That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
mountain peaks.
> What made the mountains grow so rapidly? You have no clue!
Here is a mountain known to have added 75 million cubic meters
of rock to its summit, in just FIVE (5) days.. http://bit.ly/JMk3KZ
> What made the growth decelerate to the speeds we can observe
> today?
> I simply do not understand why you creationist and other flood-believers
> cannot see, that your goal should be to falsify any natural explanation for
> the sudden appearance of the waters,
> and victoriously state that only God could have willed the water into
> existence.
> That's what you do when you attack the ToE.
> Eliminate the scientific explanation and invoke God.
will acknowledge the Creator of the material world which they study.
"Newton saw God as the masterful creator whose existence could
not be denied in the face of the grandeur of all creation..The Bible
was Sir Isaac Newton's greatest passion. He devoted more time to
the study of Scripture than to science, and he said, "I have a fun-
damental belief in the Bible as the Word of God, written by those
who were inspired. I study the Bible daily."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton's_religious_views
harry k
May 26, 2012, 11:41:38 PM5/26/12
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On May 26, 8:27 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Malte Runz" wrote in messagenews:4fc15cff$0$292$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk...
5 miles of water go at the end of that year?
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
So living ocean creatures died and became fossilized and encased in
ROCK
in just 40 days? Do you delight in exposing your total ignorance of
natural processes?
<snip remaining lies>
Harry K
> "Malte Runz" wrote in messagenews:4fc15cff$0$292$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk...
> > "duke" skrev:
> > (snip)
>
> >> My statement was conclusive when I stated that at one time Mt Everest
> >> was just a speed bump. A "smooth surface" earth does not take much
> >> water to make a visible depth of a flood.
>
> > Do you have any evidence that confirms your statements? No!
>
> The antediluvian world was much different than what we see today.
>
> > Where did the water come from? You have no answer,
>
> This is what happened...
According to idiots who know nothing of natural processes. Where did
> > (snip)
>
> >> My statement was conclusive when I stated that at one time Mt Everest
> >> was just a speed bump. A "smooth surface" earth does not take much
> >> water to make a visible depth of a flood.
>
> > Do you have any evidence that confirms your statements? No!
>
> The antediluvian world was much different than what we see today.
>
> > Where did the water come from? You have no answer,
>
> This is what happened...
5 miles of water go at the end of that year?
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
ROCK
in just 40 days? Do you delight in exposing your total ignorance of
natural processes?
<snip remaining lies>
Harry K
Wombat
May 27, 2012, 2:12:25 AM5/27/12
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On May 27, 5:27 am, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Malte Runz" wrote in messagenews:4fc15cff$0$292$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk...
>
> > Where did the water come from? You have no answer,
>
> This is what happened...
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
How old are those fossils?
>
> > What made the mountains grow so rapidly? You have no clue!
>
> Here is a mountain known to have added 75 million cubic meters
> of rock to its summit, in just FIVE (5) days..http://bit.ly/JMk3KZ
Do you know the difference between a volcano and a mountain like
Everest.
>
> > What made the growth decelerate to the speeds we can observe
> > today?
>
> Everything stops growing, eventually. (Almost everything.)
How did Everest grow to almost 30,000 feet in a few thousand years,
magically slowing its growth just as it became possible to accurately
measure its height?
BTW, why do not all animals have a genetic bottleneck dating back to
Ye Floode.
>
> > I simply do not understand why you creationist and other flood-believers
> > cannot see, that your goal should be to falsify any natural explanation for
> > the sudden appearance of the waters,
>
> So you acknowledge that there WAS a "sudden appearance of the waters".
He didn't say that. It's just your dishonesty showing again.
>
> > and victoriously state that only God could have willed the water into
> > existence.
>
> He wills for you to share the glories of eternity with Him forever..if you will.
Given your dishonesty, you might check the small print of your free
"pass". The destination might not be to your liking.
>
> > That's what you do when you attack the ToE.
>
> The ToE isn't ALL wrong; just the part that is false, which is most of it.
Which is something you have never shown. Hand waving is not
sufficient.
> "Malte Runz" wrote in messagenews:4fc15cff$0$292$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk...
> > "duke" skrev:
> > (snip)
>
> >> My statement was conclusive when I stated that at one time Mt Everest
> >> was just a speed bump. A "smooth surface" earth does not take much
> >> water to make a visible depth of a flood.
>
> > Do you have any evidence that confirms your statements? No!
>
> The antediluvian world was much different than what we see today.
Have you any evidence for that assertion?
> > (snip)
>
> >> My statement was conclusive when I stated that at one time Mt Everest
> >> was just a speed bump. A "smooth surface" earth does not take much
> >> water to make a visible depth of a flood.
>
> > Do you have any evidence that confirms your statements? No!
>
> The antediluvian world was much different than what we see today.
>
> > Where did the water come from? You have no answer,
>
> This is what happened...
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
> > What made the mountains grow so rapidly? You have no clue!
>
> Here is a mountain known to have added 75 million cubic meters
> of rock to its summit, in just FIVE (5) days..http://bit.ly/JMk3KZ
Everest.
>
> > What made the growth decelerate to the speeds we can observe
> > today?
>
> Everything stops growing, eventually. (Almost everything.)
magically slowing its growth just as it became possible to accurately
measure its height?
BTW, why do not all animals have a genetic bottleneck dating back to
Ye Floode.
>
> > I simply do not understand why you creationist and other flood-believers
> > cannot see, that your goal should be to falsify any natural explanation for
> > the sudden appearance of the waters,
>
> So you acknowledge that there WAS a "sudden appearance of the waters".
>
> > and victoriously state that only God could have willed the water into
> > existence.
>
> He wills for you to share the glories of eternity with Him forever..if you will.
"pass". The destination might not be to your liking.
>
> > That's what you do when you attack the ToE.
>
> The ToE isn't ALL wrong; just the part that is false, which is most of it.
sufficient.
SkyEyes
May 27, 2012, 4:23:34 AM5/27/12
to
On May 26, 8:27 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Malte Runz" wrote in messagenews:4fc15cff$0$292$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk...
are land that was once sea bed, and has been pushed *up* by the
movement of tectonic plates.
Mt. Everest, for instance, is *not* a volcano.
So what made the mountains THAT AREN'T VOLCANOS grow so rapidly? You
still have no clue.
>
> > What made the growth decelerate to the speeds we can observe
> > today?
>
> Everything stops growing, eventually. (Almost everything.)
Many varieties of fish, actually, never strop growing through their
entire lives. If they aren't felled by disease or a predator, they
just keep getting bigger.
in scientific parlance?
*any* god exists, including yours. You simply can't face the fact
that some day, you'll die. So you buy into this exceptionally silly,
not to mention vicious, religion.
Grow up and get over it.
ever come up with. There are mountains of data - still growing, like
those volcanos - supporting it.
won't.
kind of christian you would recognize.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
> "Malte Runz" wrote in messagenews:4fc15cff$0$292$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk...
> > "duke" skrev:
> > (snip)
>
> >> My statement was conclusive when I stated that at one time Mt Everest
> >> was just a speed bump. A "smooth surface" earth does not take much
> >> water to make a visible depth of a flood.
>
> > Do you have any evidence that confirms your statements? No!
>
> The antediluvian world was much different than what we see today.
And your evidence supporting that statement is...what, exactly?
> > (snip)
>
> >> My statement was conclusive when I stated that at one time Mt Everest
> >> was just a speed bump. A "smooth surface" earth does not take much
> >> water to make a visible depth of a flood.
>
> > Do you have any evidence that confirms your statements? No!
>
> The antediluvian world was much different than what we see today.
>
> > Where did the water come from? You have no answer,
>
> This is what happened...
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
And *where* did all that water go?
> > Where did the water come from? You have no answer,
>
> This is what happened...
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
We see fossilzed ocean creatures on mountain peaks because those peaks
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
are land that was once sea bed, and has been pushed *up* by the
movement of tectonic plates.
>
> > What made the mountains grow so rapidly? You have no clue!
>
> Here is a mountain known to have added 75 million cubic meters
> of rock to its summit, in just FIVE (5) days..http://bit.ly/JMk3KZ
Yes, a *volcano*. Not all the mountains in the world are volcanic.
> > What made the mountains grow so rapidly? You have no clue!
>
> Here is a mountain known to have added 75 million cubic meters
> of rock to its summit, in just FIVE (5) days..http://bit.ly/JMk3KZ
Mt. Everest, for instance, is *not* a volcano.
So what made the mountains THAT AREN'T VOLCANOS grow so rapidly? You
still have no clue.
>
> > What made the growth decelerate to the speeds we can observe
> > today?
>
> Everything stops growing, eventually. (Almost everything.)
entire lives. If they aren't felled by disease or a predator, they
just keep getting bigger.
>
> > I simply do not understand why you creationist and other flood-believers
> > cannot see, that your goal should be to falsify any natural explanation for
> > the sudden appearance of the waters,
>
> So you acknowledge that there WAS a "sudden appearance of the waters".
No. Read his sentence again. Do you know what it means "to falsify"
> > I simply do not understand why you creationist and other flood-believers
> > cannot see, that your goal should be to falsify any natural explanation for
> > the sudden appearance of the waters,
>
> So you acknowledge that there WAS a "sudden appearance of the waters".
in scientific parlance?
>
> > and victoriously state that only God could have willed the water into
> > existence.
>
> He wills for you to share the glories of eternity with Him forever..if you will.
Oh horsepucky. You don't have the slightest bit of evidence that
> > and victoriously state that only God could have willed the water into
> > existence.
>
> He wills for you to share the glories of eternity with Him forever..if you will.
*any* god exists, including yours. You simply can't face the fact
that some day, you'll die. So you buy into this exceptionally silly,
not to mention vicious, religion.
Grow up and get over it.
>
> > That's what you do when you attack the ToE.
>
> The ToE isn't ALL wrong; just the part that is false, which is most of it.
The ToE is one of the most robust, best-supported ideas science has
> > That's what you do when you attack the ToE.
>
> The ToE isn't ALL wrong; just the part that is false, which is most of it.
ever come up with. There are mountains of data - still growing, like
those volcanos - supporting it.
>
> > Eliminate the scientific explanation and invoke God.
>
> Since creation points to the existence of its Creator, the true scientist
> will acknowledge the Creator of the material world which they study.
Not unless there's some evidence that points to a creator, no, they
> > Eliminate the scientific explanation and invoke God.
>
> Since creation points to the existence of its Creator, the true scientist
> will acknowledge the Creator of the material world which they study.
won't.
>
> "Newton saw God as the masterful creator whose existence could
> not be denied in the face of the grandeur of all creation..The Bible
> was Sir Isaac Newton's greatest passion. He devoted more time to
> the study of Scripture than to science, and he said, "I have a fun-
> damental belief in the Bible as the Word of God, written by those
> who were inspired. I study the Bible daily."
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton's_religious_views
The world has come a long, long way since Newton, who, BTW, was no
> "Newton saw God as the masterful creator whose existence could
> not be denied in the face of the grandeur of all creation..The Bible
> was Sir Isaac Newton's greatest passion. He devoted more time to
> the study of Scripture than to science, and he said, "I have a fun-
> damental belief in the Bible as the Word of God, written by those
> who were inspired. I study the Bible daily."
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton's_religious_views
kind of christian you would recognize.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
Andrew
May 27, 2012, 5:11:00 AM5/27/12
to
"SkyEyes" wrote in message news:88345bbe-788f-4f84...@wp3g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...
>"Andrew" wrote:
>> > Where did the water come from? You have no answer,
>>
>> This is what happened...
>>
>> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
>> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
>> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
>> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
>> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>>
>> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
>> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
>> covered." v.19
>
> And *where* did all that water go?
Where did all the water go that used to be on Mars?
>> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
>> mountain peaks.
>
> We see fossilzed ocean creatures on mountain peaks because those peaks
> are land that was once sea bed, and has been pushed *up* by the
> movement of tectonic plates.
During Ye Floode.
>> > What made the mountains grow so rapidly? You have no clue!
>>
>> Here is a mountain known to have added 75 million cubic meters
>> of rock to its summit, in just FIVE (5) days.. http://bit.ly/JMk3KZ
>> > What made the growth decelerate to the speeds we can observe
>> > today?
>>
>> Everything stops growing, eventually. (Almost everything.)
>
> Many varieties of fish, actually, never strop growing through their
> entire lives. If they aren't felled by disease or a predator, they
> just keep getting bigger.
Also some reptiles.
>> > I simply do not understand why you creationist and other flood-believers
>> > cannot see, that your goal should be to falsify any natural explanation for
>> > the sudden appearance of the waters,
>>
>> So you acknowledge that there WAS a "sudden appearance of the waters".
>
> No. Read his sentence again. Do you know what it means "to falsify"
> in scientific parlance?
>>
>> > and victoriously state that only God could have willed the water into
>> > existence.
>>
>> He wills for you to share the glories of eternity with Him forever..if you will.
>
> Oh horsepucky. You don't have the slightest bit of evidence that
> *any* god exists, including yours. You simply can't face the fact
> that some day, you'll die.
The mortality rate here is 100%.
> So you buy into this exceptionally silly,
> not to mention vicious, religion.
Jesus is real, and He greatly loves you.
> Grow up and get over it.
You "grow up" when you forsake your foolish
pride and accept the salvation that He offers to
you with much love.
>> > That's what you do when you attack the ToE.
>>
>> The ToE isn't ALL wrong; just the part that is false, which is most of it.
>
> The ToE is one of the most robust, best-supported ideas science has
> ever come up with.
It is a false, anti-god origins deception.
> There are mountains of data - still growing, like
> those volcanos - supporting it.
The problem is not the *data* but rather the fact
that it is forced to fit into a preconceived framework.
>> > Eliminate the scientific explanation and invoke God.
>>
>> Since creation points to the existence of its Creator, the true scientist
>> will acknowledge the Creator of the material world which they study.
>
> Not unless there's some evidence that points to a creator,
That's what creation does - points to a Creator,
>> "Newton saw God as the masterful creator whose existence could
>> not be denied in the face of the grandeur of all creation..The Bible
>> was Sir Isaac Newton's greatest passion. He devoted more time to
>> the study of Scripture than to science, and he said, "I have a fun-
>> damental belief in the Bible as the Word of God, written by those
>> who were inspired. I study the Bible daily."
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton's_religious_views
>
> The world has come a long, long way since Newton, who, BTW,
> was no kind of christian you would recognize.
He was a true scientist who '"saw God as the masterful Creator whose
existence could not be denied in the face of the grandeur of all creation.'"
Amen!
>"Andrew" wrote:
>> "Malte Runz" wrote:
>> > "duke" skrev:
>> > (snip)
>> >> My statement was conclusive when I stated that at one time Mt Everest
>> >> was just a speed bump. A "smooth surface" earth does not take much
>> >> water to make a visible depth of a flood.
>>
>> > Do you have any evidence that confirms your statements? No!
>>
>> The antediluvian world was much different than what we see today.
>
> And your evidence supporting that statement is...what, exactly?
Rather, what is your evidence saying that there was no difference?
>> > "duke" skrev:
>> > (snip)
>> >> My statement was conclusive when I stated that at one time Mt Everest
>> >> was just a speed bump. A "smooth surface" earth does not take much
>> >> water to make a visible depth of a flood.
>>
>> > Do you have any evidence that confirms your statements? No!
>>
>> The antediluvian world was much different than what we see today.
>
> And your evidence supporting that statement is...what, exactly?
>> > Where did the water come from? You have no answer,
>>
>> This is what happened...
>>
>> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
>> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
>> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
>> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
>> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>>
>> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
>> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
>> covered." v.19
>
> And *where* did all that water go?
>> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
>> mountain peaks.
>
> We see fossilzed ocean creatures on mountain peaks because those peaks
> are land that was once sea bed, and has been pushed *up* by the
> movement of tectonic plates.
>> > What made the mountains grow so rapidly? You have no clue!
>>
>> Here is a mountain known to have added 75 million cubic meters
>
> Yes, a *volcano*. Not all the mountains in the world are volcanic.
> Mt. Everest, for instance, is *not* a volcano.
>
> So what made the mountains THAT AREN'T VOLCANOS grow
> so rapidly? You still have no clue.
Rapid tectonic activity during Ye Floode (see above).
> Yes, a *volcano*. Not all the mountains in the world are volcanic.
> Mt. Everest, for instance, is *not* a volcano.
>
> So what made the mountains THAT AREN'T VOLCANOS grow
> so rapidly? You still have no clue.
>> > What made the growth decelerate to the speeds we can observe
>> > today?
>>
>> Everything stops growing, eventually. (Almost everything.)
>
> Many varieties of fish, actually, never strop growing through their
> entire lives. If they aren't felled by disease or a predator, they
> just keep getting bigger.
>> > I simply do not understand why you creationist and other flood-believers
>> > cannot see, that your goal should be to falsify any natural explanation for
>> > the sudden appearance of the waters,
>>
>> So you acknowledge that there WAS a "sudden appearance of the waters".
>
> No. Read his sentence again. Do you know what it means "to falsify"
> in scientific parlance?
>>
>> > and victoriously state that only God could have willed the water into
>> > existence.
>>
>> He wills for you to share the glories of eternity with Him forever..if you will.
>
> Oh horsepucky. You don't have the slightest bit of evidence that
> *any* god exists, including yours. You simply can't face the fact
> that some day, you'll die.
> So you buy into this exceptionally silly,
> not to mention vicious, religion.
> Grow up and get over it.
pride and accept the salvation that He offers to
you with much love.
>> > That's what you do when you attack the ToE.
>>
>> The ToE isn't ALL wrong; just the part that is false, which is most of it.
>
> The ToE is one of the most robust, best-supported ideas science has
> ever come up with.
> There are mountains of data - still growing, like
> those volcanos - supporting it.
that it is forced to fit into a preconceived framework.
>> > Eliminate the scientific explanation and invoke God.
>>
>> Since creation points to the existence of its Creator, the true scientist
>> will acknowledge the Creator of the material world which they study.
>
> Not unless there's some evidence that points to a creator,
>> "Newton saw God as the masterful creator whose existence could
>> not be denied in the face of the grandeur of all creation..The Bible
>> was Sir Isaac Newton's greatest passion. He devoted more time to
>> the study of Scripture than to science, and he said, "I have a fun-
>> damental belief in the Bible as the Word of God, written by those
>> who were inspired. I study the Bible daily."
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton's_religious_views
>
> The world has come a long, long way since Newton, who, BTW,
> was no kind of christian you would recognize.
existence could not be denied in the face of the grandeur of all creation.'"
Amen!
Free Lunch
May 27, 2012, 10:24:54 AM5/27/12
to
On Sun, 27 May 2012 02:11:00 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>"SkyEyes" wrote in message news:88345bbe-788f-4f84...@wp3g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...
>>"Andrew" wrote:
>>> "Malte Runz" wrote:
>>> > "duke" skrev:
>>> > (snip)
>>> >> My statement was conclusive when I stated that at one time Mt Everest
>>> >> was just a speed bump. A "smooth surface" earth does not take much
>>> >> water to make a visible depth of a flood.
>>>
>>> > Do you have any evidence that confirms your statements? No!
>>>
>>> The antediluvian world was much different than what we see today.
>>
>> And your evidence supporting that statement is...what, exactly?
>
>Rather, what is your evidence saying that there was no difference?
The geological history of the earth shows that Noah's Flood is a
completely fictitious event.
...
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>"SkyEyes" wrote in message news:88345bbe-788f-4f84...@wp3g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...
>>"Andrew" wrote:
>>> "Malte Runz" wrote:
>>> > "duke" skrev:
>>> > (snip)
>>> >> My statement was conclusive when I stated that at one time Mt Everest
>>> >> was just a speed bump. A "smooth surface" earth does not take much
>>> >> water to make a visible depth of a flood.
>>>
>>> > Do you have any evidence that confirms your statements? No!
>>>
>>> The antediluvian world was much different than what we see today.
>>
>> And your evidence supporting that statement is...what, exactly?
>
>Rather, what is your evidence saying that there was no difference?
completely fictitious event.
...
Malte Runz
May 27, 2012, 11:02:31 AM5/27/12
to
"Andrew" skrev i meddelelsen
news:saidnUfmpZZWA1zS...@earthlink.com...
preferably in a recognizable unit, such as years. Point to a geological site
where you have an obserable boundary between the world we see today and your
mysterious "antediluvian world".
>
> > Where did the water come from? You have no answer,
>
> This is what happened...
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, ...
The crap sure is piling up fast.
> ... in the second month,
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
Were the dead creatures dumped on the mountains during the flood, or were
they laid down with other sediments in areas that later were pushed up to
become the mile high mountains we see today? How did they petrify so fast?
>
> > What made the mountains grow so rapidly? You have no clue!
>
> Here is a mountain known to have added 75 million cubic meters
> of rock to its summit, in just FIVE (5) days.. http://bit.ly/JMk3KZ
It's a volcano, you fool! Your stupidity seems limitless.
>
> > What made the growth decelerate to the speeds we can observe
> > today?
>
> Everything stops growing, eventually. (Almost everything.)
Is that your answer? 'Because it does'. Are you even trying to apply reason
and logic to your ideas?
>
> > I simply do not understand why you creationists and other
were evidence for a flood, and if you could manage to come up with a
rational explanation, you'd have debunked your own wet 'goddidit dream'
>
> > and victoriously state that only God could have willed the water into
> > existence.
>
> He wills for you to share the glories of eternity with Him forever..if you
> will.
Bring me a bucket!
>
> > That's what you do when you attack the ToE.
>
> The ToE isn't ALL wrong; just the part that is false, which is most of it.
Care to elaborate?
Nah, forget it. All I'd get would be scripture and some insane ideas pulled
straight from your arse.
>
> > Eliminate the scientific explanation and invoke God.
>
> Since creation points to the existence of its Creator, the true scientist
> will acknowledge the Creator of the material world which they study.
>
> "Newton saw God as the masterful creator whose existence could
> not be denied in the face of the grandeur of all creation..The Bible
> was Sir Isaac Newton's greatest passion. He devoted more time to
> the study of Scripture than to science, and he said, "I have a fun-
> damental belief in the Bible as the Word of God, written by those
> who were inspired. I study the Bible daily."
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton's_religious_views
Appeal to authority is cheap. Did Newton need to incorporate God in his law
of universal gravitation? (Hint: the 'G' is the gravitational constant.)
It's amusing to see how creationists try to be 'scientific' about their
beliefs. Deep down they know that science trumps faith.
--
Malte Runz
news:saidnUfmpZZWA1zS...@earthlink.com...
>
> "Malte Runz" wrote in message
> news:4fc15cff$0$292$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk...
> > "duke" skrev:
> > (snip)
> >>
> >> My statement was conclusive when I stated that at one time Mt Everest
> >> was just a speed bump. A "smooth surface" earth does not take much
> >> water to make a visible depth of a flood.
> >
> > Do you have any evidence that confirms your statements? No!
>
> The antediluvian world was much different than what we see today.
When was that? Don't just say 'before the Flood. Come up with a figure,
> "Malte Runz" wrote in message
> news:4fc15cff$0$292$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk...
> > "duke" skrev:
> > (snip)
> >>
> >> My statement was conclusive when I stated that at one time Mt Everest
> >> was just a speed bump. A "smooth surface" earth does not take much
> >> water to make a visible depth of a flood.
> >
> > Do you have any evidence that confirms your statements? No!
>
> The antediluvian world was much different than what we see today.
preferably in a recognizable unit, such as years. Point to a geological site
where you have an obserable boundary between the world we see today and your
mysterious "antediluvian world".
>
> > Where did the water come from? You have no answer,
>
> This is what happened...
>
The crap sure is piling up fast.
> ... in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
Don't give me scripture when I ask for physical evidence.
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
they laid down with other sediments in areas that later were pushed up to
become the mile high mountains we see today? How did they petrify so fast?
>
> > What made the mountains grow so rapidly? You have no clue!
>
> Here is a mountain known to have added 75 million cubic meters
> of rock to its summit, in just FIVE (5) days.. http://bit.ly/JMk3KZ
>
> > What made the growth decelerate to the speeds we can observe
> > today?
>
> Everything stops growing, eventually. (Almost everything.)
and logic to your ideas?
>
> > I simply do not understand why you creationists and other
> > flood-believers
> > cannot see, that your goal should be to falsify any natural explanation
> > for
> > the sudden appearance of the waters,
>
> So you acknowledge that there WAS a "sudden appearance of the waters".
Of course not. You claim there was, and I was just playing along. If there
> > cannot see, that your goal should be to falsify any natural explanation
> > for
> > the sudden appearance of the waters,
>
> So you acknowledge that there WAS a "sudden appearance of the waters".
were evidence for a flood, and if you could manage to come up with a
rational explanation, you'd have debunked your own wet 'goddidit dream'
>
> > and victoriously state that only God could have willed the water into
> > existence.
>
> He wills for you to share the glories of eternity with Him forever..if you
> will.
>
> > That's what you do when you attack the ToE.
>
> The ToE isn't ALL wrong; just the part that is false, which is most of it.
Nah, forget it. All I'd get would be scripture and some insane ideas pulled
straight from your arse.
>
> > Eliminate the scientific explanation and invoke God.
>
> Since creation points to the existence of its Creator, the true scientist
> will acknowledge the Creator of the material world which they study.
>
> "Newton saw God as the masterful creator whose existence could
> not be denied in the face of the grandeur of all creation..The Bible
> was Sir Isaac Newton's greatest passion. He devoted more time to
> the study of Scripture than to science, and he said, "I have a fun-
> damental belief in the Bible as the Word of God, written by those
> who were inspired. I study the Bible daily."
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton's_religious_views
of universal gravitation? (Hint: the 'G' is the gravitational constant.)
It's amusing to see how creationists try to be 'scientific' about their
beliefs. Deep down they know that science trumps faith.
--
Malte Runz
Jeanne Douglas
May 27, 2012, 6:47:02 PM5/27/12
to
In article <PNCdne-sN7zBclzS...@earthlink.com>,
cores and ocean-bottom cores, going back millions of years.
> >> > Where did the water come from? You have no answer,
> >>
> >> This is what happened...
> >>
> >> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> >> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> >> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> >> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> >> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
> >>
> >> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> >> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> >> covered." v.19
> >
> > And *where* did all that water go?
>
> Where did all the water go that used to be on Mars?
It froze underground or it evaporated into space--over many millions of
years.
> >> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> >> mountain peaks.
> >
> > We see fossilzed ocean creatures on mountain peaks because those peaks
> > are land that was once sea bed, and has been pushed *up* by the
> > movement of tectonic plates.
>
> During Ye Floode.
Sooooo. You're claiming that the Ye Floode happened tens or hundreds of
years ago. Where's your evidence that there were human beings that long
ago?
> >> > What made the mountains grow so rapidly? You have no clue!
> >>
> >> Here is a mountain known to have added 75 million cubic meters
> >> of rock to its summit, in just FIVE (5) days.. http://bit.ly/JMk3KZ
> >
> > Yes, a *volcano*. Not all the mountains in the world are volcanic.
> > Mt. Everest, for instance, is *not* a volcano.
> >
> > So what made the mountains THAT AREN'T VOLCANOS grow
> > so rapidly? You still have no clue.
>
> Rapid tectonic activity during Ye Floode (see above).
Once again stating that the Floode happened tens or hundreds of millions
of years ago.
> >> > That's what you do when you attack the ToE.
> >>
> >> The ToE isn't ALL wrong; just the part that is false, which is most of it.
> >
> > The ToE is one of the most robust, best-supported ideas science has
> > ever come up with.
>
> It is a false, anti-god origins deception.
Oooops, you just called the Pope a heretic.
> >> > Eliminate the scientific explanation and invoke God.
> >>
> >> Since creation points to the existence of its Creator, the true scientist
> >> will acknowledge the Creator of the material world which they study.
> >
> > Not unless there's some evidence that points to a creator,
>
> That's what creation does - points to a Creator,
How does it do that?
--
JD
"the lybian lier"
"Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net> wrote:
> "SkyEyes" wrote in message
> news:88345bbe-788f-4f84...@wp3g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...
> >"Andrew" wrote:
> >> "Malte Runz" wrote:
> >> > "duke" skrev:
> >> > (snip)
> >> >> My statement was conclusive when I stated that at one time Mt Everest
> >> >> was just a speed bump. A "smooth surface" earth does not take much
> >> >> water to make a visible depth of a flood.
> >>
> >> > Do you have any evidence that confirms your statements? No!
> >>
> >> The antediluvian world was much different than what we see today.
> >
> > And your evidence supporting that statement is...what, exactly?
>
> Rather, what is your evidence saying that there was no difference?
The geologic history, going back hundreds of millions of years. Ice
> "SkyEyes" wrote in message
> news:88345bbe-788f-4f84...@wp3g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...
> >"Andrew" wrote:
> >> "Malte Runz" wrote:
> >> > "duke" skrev:
> >> > (snip)
> >> >> My statement was conclusive when I stated that at one time Mt Everest
> >> >> was just a speed bump. A "smooth surface" earth does not take much
> >> >> water to make a visible depth of a flood.
> >>
> >> > Do you have any evidence that confirms your statements? No!
> >>
> >> The antediluvian world was much different than what we see today.
> >
> > And your evidence supporting that statement is...what, exactly?
>
> Rather, what is your evidence saying that there was no difference?
cores and ocean-bottom cores, going back millions of years.
> >> > Where did the water come from? You have no answer,
> >>
> >> This is what happened...
> >>
> >> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> >> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> >> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> >> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> >> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
> >>
> >> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> >> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> >> covered." v.19
> >
> > And *where* did all that water go?
>
> Where did all the water go that used to be on Mars?
years.
> >> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> >> mountain peaks.
> >
> > We see fossilzed ocean creatures on mountain peaks because those peaks
> > are land that was once sea bed, and has been pushed *up* by the
> > movement of tectonic plates.
>
> During Ye Floode.
years ago. Where's your evidence that there were human beings that long
ago?
> >> > What made the mountains grow so rapidly? You have no clue!
> >>
> >> Here is a mountain known to have added 75 million cubic meters
> >> of rock to its summit, in just FIVE (5) days.. http://bit.ly/JMk3KZ
> >
> > Yes, a *volcano*. Not all the mountains in the world are volcanic.
> > Mt. Everest, for instance, is *not* a volcano.
> >
> > So what made the mountains THAT AREN'T VOLCANOS grow
> > so rapidly? You still have no clue.
>
> Rapid tectonic activity during Ye Floode (see above).
of years ago.
> >> > That's what you do when you attack the ToE.
> >>
> >> The ToE isn't ALL wrong; just the part that is false, which is most of it.
> >
> > The ToE is one of the most robust, best-supported ideas science has
> > ever come up with.
>
> It is a false, anti-god origins deception.
> >> > Eliminate the scientific explanation and invoke God.
> >>
> >> Since creation points to the existence of its Creator, the true scientist
> >> will acknowledge the Creator of the material world which they study.
> >
> > Not unless there's some evidence that points to a creator,
>
> That's what creation does - points to a Creator,
--
JD
"the lybian lier"
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