Atheists are still claiming that babies, smegma, used tampons and snot are ATHEISTS! [the REAL ONES! B^] Re: Are people born as Atheists or as Agnostics?
fasgnadh
> I was recently debating with a theist about burden of Proof lying on
> Theists and not Atheists since they first made the claim of God.
>
> I said Atheism is a lack of belief in God and since everyone is born
> without any idea of God until they are first introduced to this
> Theistic claim, everyone is an Atheist to begin with.
>
> What is your opinion?
Much as we are tempted to agree that an atheist is ANY NON SENTIENT
entity, and that, for example, dog shit and snot are among the MOST
INTELLIGENT of these real atheists, we must, in the interests of logic
and humour, ridicule your stupidity and mock you to oblivion! B^]
As we have been doing for MONTHS: B^D
# From: fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com.au>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion,aus.religion,aus.politics,
# uk.politics.misc, alt.politics.communism,alt.politics.republicans,
# alt.politics.democrats
# Subject: Re: The Real atheists: Dog Shit, Used Tampons, Smegma
# and Snot!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAA!
# Message-ID: <xp3Bl.399$y61...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
# Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 13:51:25 GMT
#
# AZ Nomad wrote:
# >> On Mar 29, 5:14 pm, AZ Nomad <aznoma...@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:
# >>>> On Mar 6, 8:16 am, Virgil <Vir...@gmale.com> wrote:
# >>>>> In article <V3Vrl.25408$cu.17...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
# >>>>> fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
#
# >>>>>> Virgil continued the atheist membership drive, recruiting
# >>>>>> babies;
# >>>>>>>
# >>>>>>> If the person making that claim is including non-beleivers
# >>>>>>> in gods, as well as anti-believers, in his/her definition
# >>>>>>> of A-theism (without a god), then babies are certainly
# >>>>>>> non-believers.
# >>>>>>
# >>>>>> As are rocks, trees, grains of sand on the beach and
# >>>>>> my dog, Deefa!
#
# >>>>>> In fact Deefa is the most intelligent of all of you..
# >>>>>> and, unlike Atheists, HE'S NOT BARKING MAD! B^D
#
# >>> If they don't have a god belief then they are atheist.
#
# rocks, trees, grains of sand on the beach and my dog, Deefa
# don't have a god belief, according to these atheist CRETINS,
# that makes them Atheists!
#
# BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAA!
#
# At least those sub-epsilon atheist morons recognise their
# INTELLECTUAL SUPERIORS!
#
# BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAAHAHAAHHAHA!
#
# EVERYTHING, that has an IQ small enough not to be able to
# form a belief!!!!
#
# BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAA
#
# Watching atheists debate is like watching 'tards
# compare their lobotomy scars to see which one had
# the most brain removed;
#
# Dog shit and Used Tampons,
# Smegma and Snot all lack 'a God belief'
#
# > Are they god believers? No?
#
# No.
#
# > Then they are atheist.
# >
#
# BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
#
# Atheism's FINEST!!!!!
#
# BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
Losing support since the days when atheist states terrorised tortured
and murdered tens of millions of victims, atheists are frantic to boost
their numbers any way they can.. but claiming a lump of shit
is an atheist is really desperate! B^)
EVEN IF VIRGIL AND SYD PROVE ITS TRUE!!!!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAA
--
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest
"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-family_1001874c.jpg
zencycle
more lucid argument
> # BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAA!
> #
> # At least those sub-epsilon atheist morons recognise their
> # INTELLECTUAL SUPERIORS!
> #
> # BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAAHAHAAHHAHA!
> #
> # EVERYTHING, that has an IQ small enough not to be able to
> # form a belief!!!!
> #
> # BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAA
> #
> #
> # Dog shit and Used Tampons,
> # Smegma and Snot all lack 'a God belief'
> #
> # > Are they god believers? No?
> #
> # No.
> #
> # > Then they are atheist.
> # >
# BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
> #
> # Atheism's FINEST!!!!!
> # BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
>
> claiming a lump of shit
> is an atheist is really desperate! B^)
>
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAA
>
Don't expect real answers from faggsie....
Faggsie has run repeatedly from me when presented with facts and
alternate interpretations of scripture.
He claims to have railed against the Iranian gvt when they imprisoned
Roxana Saberi, yet when I challenged him to produce his screed, I was
met with silence.
I've proved him wring in that muslims no longer practice stonings, and
that Laura Ling and Euna Lee issued press releases saying they were
kidnapped. These were met with changing the subject.
I've chased faggsie from north korea to saudi arabia, and the best he
can come up with "bwaaaaaa!"
Fagsnads - just another deluded religious tool.
Virgil
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> harsha wrote:
> > I was recently debating with a theist about burden of Proof lying on
> > Theists and not Atheists since they first made the claim of God.
> >
> > I said Atheism is a lack of belief in God and since everyone is born
> > without any idea of God until they are first introduced to this
> > Theistic claim, everyone is an Atheist to begin with.
> >
> > What is your opinion?
>
> Much as we are tempted to agree
Fasgnadh has never been tempted to agree with anything that makes sense.
--
Virgil
fasgnadh
>> #
>> # rocks, trees, grains of sand on the beach and my dog, Deefa
>> # don't have a god belief, according to these atheist CRETINS,
>> # that makes them Atheists!
>> #
>> #
>> # At least those sub-epsilon atheist morons recognise their
>> # INTELLECTUAL SUPERIORS!
>> #
>> # BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAAHAHAAHHAHA!
>> #
>> # EVERYTHING, that has an IQ small enough not to be able to
>> # form a belief!!!!
>> #
>> # BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAA
>> #
>> # compare their lobotomy scars to see which one had
>> # the most brain removed;
>> # Dog shit and Used Tampons,
>> # Smegma and Snot all lack 'a God belief'
>> #
>> # > Are they god believers? No?
>> #
>> # No.
>> #
>> # > Then they are atheist.
>> # >
>> #
>> # BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>> #
>> # Atheism's FINEST!!!!!
>> #
>>
>>
>> Losing support since the days when atheist states terrorised tortured
>> and murdered tens of millions of victims, atheists are frantic to boost
>> is an atheist is really desperate! B^)
>>
>>
>>
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAA
>>
>
Thanks, even atheists are now agreeing with my impeccable logic; Mark
Richo, clearly one of the more intelligent atheists agrees with my
logic, stated MONTHS AGO..
How are you bitterly divided atheist shills going to resolve
this deep schism in your beliefs???
> Don't expect real answers
From you, of course not , you will snip all the argument,
as you just did then, leaving only unreadable fragments
where I am laughing at the atheist Schism, and then just make more
asinine, unsubstantiated ASSERTIONS which don't even address
the issue, you are a spent force, and a complete lightweight,
I will snip everything from you that has NOTHING to do with the
topic at hand to demonstrate proof of that claim:
<GIGO snip>
What the atheists are SCREECHING hysterically about and snipping
wildly as if sticking their heads up their arse makes the truth go
away, ...is that OTHER ATHEISTS NOW AGREE WITH ME!!; B^D
# From: Richo <m.richa...@gmail.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: Are people born as Atheists or as Agnostics?
# Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:22:25 -0700 (PDT)
# Message-ID:
# <b7407011-21e9-425d...@12g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
#
# On Jun 26, 7:33=A0pm, harsha <harsha....@gmail.com> wrote:
#
# > Atheism is a lack of belief in God and since everyone is born
# > without any idea of God until they are first introduced to this
# > Theistic claim, everyone is an Atheist to begin with.
#
# I don't agree with the application of the definition of
# atheist to beings not *capable* of belief.
We need to distinguish the two sides of the mammoth Schism that
exists in atheism, those than believe a dog or a lump of dog
dog shit or Smegma or snot can be an atheist, [the Smegma Atheists] and
those who don't, the Free-Will Atheists!
# A complete innocent - someone who has never heard of God
# cannot believe or disbelieve - the concept doesn't apply.
# So a baby, a rock or a tomato cannot be a theist nor can it
# be an atheist.
Ritcho is ALMOST correct... but no one can KNOW what a baby experiences,
and so, if it FEELS God's love, if it experiences the nurturing power
of the binding force in the Universe, Love, then it KNOWS God, even if
in it's pre-verbal state it cannot CONCEPTUALISE it's experience.
But I throw that in only to give the Smegma atheists, who have already
lost the argument, and thus the claim on 99% of the worldwide atheist
membership, something fresh to impotently gnash their teeth on! B^D
# > But he claims that they are born with a lack of belief
# >in existence of God and also lack of belief in non existence
# > of God which makes them Agnostics.
#
#
# No that's wrong.
# Agnosticism is a belief about knowledge and the possibility of
# knowledge.
#
#
# To describe a rock as a non smoker - because it doesn't
# smoke or as a vegetarian - because it doesn't eat meat
# - or an atheist because it doesn't believe in god - is to
# apply labels and concepts to things outside their scope
# - its just gibberish.
And most of the atheists believe it, Mark.. as this thread
and many more in alt.atheism demonstrate, you are amongst
fools and charlatans! B^]
Most of your potential allies in this fatal schism, are no longer
around to support you, only the Lunatic fringe of atheism is left,
because i have demolished the beliefs of all the former alt.atheism
champions and they have abandoned the field..
Where is Hypatia, Slimer, Bukakke, Kelsey Bjarnyardson.. et al/ B^]
...most of them no longer even post out of fear that I will demolish
their nonsense and publicly humiliate their backward beliefs.. all you
have left are the LUNATIC fringe, the forgers, fools and fops.. like
Virgil, zencyclops, raven and Syd! ;-)
The ones who are so dim, so bereft of judgement and moral integrity,
that they will ATTACK those who criticise the last remaining atheist
cluster-fuck, North Korea!!! 8^o
Abu Baker
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The ones who are left are TOO STUPID to know when they are licked,
and just keep coming back to be lacerated and mocked to oblivion
---------
The case for atheist reformation has been established,
Atheism is IN SCHISM.
First we demonstrated that atheism is just an UNPROVEN belief,
now we see the factions and warring sects fighting one another,
in an era when RELIGIONS ARE MOVING TO GREATER UNITY! 8^o
---------
Atheists have already ADMITTED atheism is a BELIEF:
# Bertrand Russell admitted he was an agnostic because there was
# no PROOF that God did not exist and no way it could be proved;
#
# "In his 1949 speech, "Am I an Atheist or an Agnostic?",
# Russell expressed his difficulty over whether to call
# himself an atheist or an agnostic:
#
# "As a philosopher, if I were speaking to a purely
# philosophic audience I should say that I ought to
# describe myself as an Agnostic, because I do not think
# that there is a conclusive argument by which one can prove
# that there is not a God."
# It's Official, Atheists claim to be a persecuted RELIGION: B^D
#
#
# "THE Atheist Foundation of Australia has lodged complaints
# of religious discrimination in Melbourne and Hobart
# after being refused permission to put atheist
# advertising on buses." - The Age 29/1/2009
#
# "atheism counts as a religion, though we say
# we're not one," Dr Perkins said."
---------
"Court rules atheism a religion
Decides 1st Amendment protects prison inmate's
right to start study group
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45874
"
A federal court of appeals ruled yesterday Wisconsin
prison officials violated an inmate's rights because
they did not treat atheism as a religion.
"Atheism is [the inmate's] religion, and the group that
he wanted to start was religious in nature even though
it expressly rejects a belief in a supreme being," the
7th Circuit Court of Appeals said."
Now all it needs is a REFORMATION to drag it out
of the Dark Age of irrational superstition, as
was evidenced in EVERY Atheist regime, and into the
Modern Era!
---------
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7842769.stm
An atheist UK bus campaign which uses the slogan
"There's probably no God, So Don't Worry, Be Happy"
has been found by the Advertising Standards Authority
to be OPINIONS which cannot be objectively substantiated!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHA
"the ASA ruled the adverts were an expression of the advertiser's
opinion and that the claims in it were not capable of objective
substantiation."
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
It's just as I said.. Atheists have BELIEFS, they put them on bus signs!
And they CAN'T PROVE THEM!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!
PRICELESS!
# "it makes utterly no difference which goddesses or gods
# you believe in, as long as you have some...
# Me, I'd suggest Bastet." - Cary Kittrell
#
# (has he misspelled 'Kitten'? ;-)
fasgnadh
> Responding to Richo:
>
>
> [...]
>> An atheist is someone capable of being a theist who is not a theist.
Exactly;
http://data5.blog.de/media/481/2584481_bdc195fac4_m.jpeg
There are none so blind as those who WILL NOT SEE
>
> You shoulda stopped just there.
>
> I've never seen it put so well in so few words.
And the scriptures predict it:
42:18 Hear, ye deaf; and look, ye blind, that ye may see.
(King James Bible, Isaiah)
"Blind be the eye that seeth Thee not!"
(Baha'u'llah, Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, p. 42)
35:5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the
deaf shall be unstopped.
(King James Bible, Isaiah)
For they who turn away from their Lord in this day are in truth
accounted amongst the dead, though to outward seeming they may walk upon
the earth, amongst the deaf, though they may hear, and amongst the
blind, though they may see, as hath been clearly stated by Him Who is
the Lord of the Day of Reckoning: "Hearts have they with which they
understand not, and eyes have they with which they see not
(Baha'u'llah, Gems of Divine Mysteries, p. 49)
The Believer
"Thus does Allah confound the unbelievers."
Sura [40.74]
EPHESIANS 5:8-14
(NIV) For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the
Lord. Live as children of light (for the fruit of the light
consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) and find out what
pleases the Lord. Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of
darkness, but rather expose them. For it is shameful even to mention
what the disobedient do in secret. But everything exposed by the
light becomes visible, for it is light that makes everything
visible. This is why it is said: "Wake up, O sleeper, rise from the
dead, and Christ will shine on you."
Ye that sleep, Awake!
ye heedless ones, Learn wisdom!
Blind, receive your sight!
Deaf, Hear!
Dumb, Speak!
Dead, Arise!
(Abdu'l-Baha, Abdu'l-Baha in London, p. 126)
Immortalist
> > more lucid argument
>
> Thanks, even atheists are now agreeing with my impeccable logic; Mark
> Richo, clearly one of the more intelligent atheists agrees with my
> logic, stated MONTHS AGO..
>
> How are you bitterly divided atheist shills going to resolve
> this deep schism in your beliefs???
>
If you have logic behind you, you are not very good at it. I see many
logical fallacies in your argument, so many in fact it is hard to tell
what your argument even is. I will take you one, please state one
argument for me to thrash. I am the legendary troll destroyer,
welcome, present one to three arguments at a time.
Virgil
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> zencycle snipped the cogent argument and ran, not one word on topic! :
> > fasgnadh wrote:
> >> harsha wrote:
> >>> I was recently debating with a theist about burden of Proof lying on
> >>> Theists and not Atheists since they first made the claim of God.
> >>>
> >>> I said Atheism is a lack of belief in God and since everyone is born
> >>> without any idea of God until they are first introduced to this
> >>> Theistic claim, everyone is an Atheist to begin with.
> >>>
> >>> What is your opinion?
fasgnadh managed again to express too few ideas in too many words, and
none of them relevant.
--
Virgil
Virgil
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >> An atheist is someone capable of being a theist who is not a theist.
Everyone is capable of being a fool, but only theists like fasgnadh
succeed in being fools so completely.
--
Virgil
bob young
fasgnadh wrote:
> Mike Jones wrote:
> > Responding to Richo:
> >
> >
> > [...]
> >> An atheist is someone capable of being a theist who is not a theist.
>
> Exactly;
>
> http://data5.blog.de/media/481/2584481_bdc195fac4_m.jpeg
>
> There are none so blind as those who WILL NOT SEE
Ooooh you mean those who wax lyrical over this kind of childish nonsense:
The universe revolves around the earth.
Stars are pinpricks in the heavens.
The world is flat (and on pillars)
Bats are a kind of bird.
Rabbits chew their cud.
There is enough water to flood the entire planet
Women were created from a man's rib
Rainbows are a promise from God
[Acknowledgments to 'James, Seattle']
You are quite right, they are blind, blinded by mass hysteria - fastnerd
At least you get some things right some of the time . . . !
bob young
Virgil wrote:
> succeed in being fools so completely. . . . . .
. . . . . . and on a daily basis !
>
>
> --
> Virgil
bob young
fasgnadh wrote:
> harsha wrote:
> > I was recently debating with a theist about burden of Proof lying on
> > Theists and not Atheists since they first made the claim of God.
> >
> > I said Atheism is a lack of belief in God and since everyone is born
> > without any idea of God until they are first introduced to this
> > Theistic claim, everyone is an Atheist to begin with.
> >
> > What is your opinion?
>
> Much as we are tempted to agree that an atheist is ANY NON SENTIENT
> entity, and that, for example, dog shit and snot are among the MOST
> INTELLIGENT of these real atheists, we must, in the interests of logic
> and humour, ridicule your stupidity and mock you to oblivion! B^]
Oh absolutely . . . I mean, after all, we atheists would never follow such things as this
would we . . . . . . .
The universe revolves around the earth.
Stars are pinpricks in the heavens.
The world is flat (and on pillars)
Bats are a kind of bird.
Rabbits chew their cud.
There is enough water to flood the entire planet
Women were created from a man's rib
Rainbows are a promise from God
[Acknowledgements to 'James, Seattle']
bob young
zencycle wrote:
. . . . . . and best avided like The Plague, as much as possible.
Aaah - That Plague - it killed half the population in the 1600's and what
was it the priests of the time were telling the populace ?
"We are all dying because God is punishing us for our sins"
Only hundreds of years later humans discovered the rat/flea/virus
connection that caused this scourge of humanity.
Bob
Humanist, atheist, realist, sentimentalist Brit.
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
(Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor)
Man creates his gods in his own image;
and then spends the rest of his life
manipulating them to his heart's content
R E L I G I O N - it is all in the mind, an escape from life's realities
and hardships
R E L I G I O N - is roughly sixty percent ritual and forty percent
fantasy
bob young
Immortalist wrote:
> >
> > > more lucid argument
> >
> > Thanks, even atheists are now agreeing with my impeccable logic;
thanks for the joke of the year
bob young
Immortalist wrote:
> >
> > > more lucid argument
> >
> > Thanks, even atheists are now agreeing with my impeccable logic . . .
> .
. . . . you are obviously not just an idiot, but an arrogant idiot to
boot.
<PLONK>
John Baker
wrote:
>>
>> Fagsnads - just another deluded religious tool.
>
> . . . . . . and best avided like The Plague, as much as possible.
Which is exactly why many of us, myself included, killfiled him ages
ago. Please, people, stop feeding this troll's ego by replying to his
idiocy.
bob young
John Baker wrote:
In future I'll open about one in fifty of his scribblings, just to
remind myself that not all homo sapiens can claim to be sane
fasgnadh
> fasgnadh wrote:
>> Mike Jones wrote:
>>> Responding to Richo:
>>>
>>>
>>>> An atheist is someone capable of being a theist who is not a theist.
>>
>>
few pursue it so energetically as Richo, Mike Jones and their
intellectual leader, Virgil the post forger and cyberstalker.
> only theists like fasgnadh succeed
Which is why I OWN alt.atheism! B^]
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Dimwitted atheists will believe ANYTHING, except the truth! B^D
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fasgnadh
> On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:08:01 -0700, Alan Ford <zzz...@qqq.net> wrote:
>
>> Alex W. wrote:
>>
>>> It may be technically correct to refer to a baby as atheist,
>>> but it is misleading because "X is an atheist" is a
>>> statement on a person's worldview -- which a baby is
>>> incapable of.
>>
>> But then you quickly run into a philosophical conundrum - at which point
>> is a person "capable" of being a theist? When he's two? Four? Ten? Sixteen?
>>
>> At which point do you draw a line and say "clearly now this child is
>> capable of having a worldview of his own and from this day on we can
>> call him either a theist or an atheist"?
When they reach the Age of Reason, obviously, then they can grow out
of atheist ignorance, (unless, like Lenin, Mao and the other atheist
TYRANTS, they are NEVER TAUGHT ANY BETTER, and remain atheist SAVAGES!)
> Kids raised outside religion tend to think for themselves a lot
...
Atheist free-thinkers conference;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv7wMk9oThI
Atheist non-idolatry parade;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOR-S9Se4JY
Atheist individualism threatens their society;
http://www.thearchetypalconnection.com/images/RedGuardsLow.JPG
Atheism's Mummy/Daddy figure;
http://www.zitantique.com/images/DCP_1031.JPG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT3QuesXgQw&feature=related
> they do other, interesting things.
The Cultural Devolution, The Great Leap Backward, The Red Terror,
the Cambodian Genocide, the Nth Korean Nationwide Gulag of Terror,
torture and murder;
"A slow descent into Hell.."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIrUHVFkm9A
http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/44camboyano.jpg
http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/392millones.jpg
# "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
# by a government, typically by active suppression of
# religious freedom and practice."
# - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
# Characteristics and Consequences,
# David Kowalewski,
# Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441,
#
#
# "An atheist, Pol Pot suppressed Cambodia�s Buddhist religion:
# monks were defrocked; temples and artifacts, including statues of
# Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing
# other religious sentiments were often killed.
# ...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations
# and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked
# and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or
# starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals
# prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state
# instead of the family.
#
# About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population,
# were worked, starved, or beaten to death under Pol Pot�s regime."
# - http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761579038/pol_pot.html
#
# The Cambodian Genocide:
http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/392millones.jpg
#
# "The country's 40,000 to 60,000 Buddhist monks,
# regarded by the regime as social parasites,
# were defrocked and forced into labor brigades.
# Many monks were executed; temples and pagodas were
# destroyed or turned into storehouses or jails.
# Images of the Buddha were defaced and dumped into
# rivers and lakes. People who were discovered praying
# or expressing religious sentiments in other ways
# were often killed.
#
# The Christian and Muslim communities were among the most
# persecuted, as well. The Roman Catholic cathedral of
# Phnom Penh was completely razed.
#
# The Khmer Rouge forced Muslims to eat pork, which they
# regard as an abomination. Many of those who refused were killed.
# Christian clergy and Muslim imams were executed."
# - http://countrystudies.us/cambodia/29.htm
#
# "Forty-eight percent of Cambodia's Christians were killed
# because of their religion."
#
http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/44camboyano.jpg
#
#
# "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
# - Daniel Peris,
# "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
# Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
#
#
# "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
# countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China,
# Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
# Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
# promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
# - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
# Wolak, Arthur J. p 104
#
# In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
# intrinsic part of communist ideology.
fasgnadh
> On Jun 26, 7:33 pm, harsha <harsha....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I was recently debating with a theist about burden of Proof lying on
>> Theists and not Atheists since they first made the claim of God.
>>
>> I said Atheism is a lack of belief in God and since everyone is born
>> without any idea of God until they are first introduced to this
>> Theistic claim, everyone is an Atheist to begin with.
And those who never learn any better, remain atheists, which explains
Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Ill Junk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fJet5L7lRg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIrUHVFkm9A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LklqtLB9E_Y
> I don't agree with the application of the definition of atheist to
> beings not *capable* of belief.
But if it wasn't, there WOULDN'T BE ANY ATHEISTS!!!! B^D
> A complete innocent - someone who has never heard of God cannot
> believe or disbelieve - the concept doesn't apply.
A complete innocent may not have heard of nutrition, or Love, either,
but it can still experience it..
Thus a baby could EXPERIENCE God, and you would never know.
Your premise is faulty. A Baby cannot formulate a BELIEF
about the existence of God, or teh non-existence of God,
just as it can't formulate a belief about it's mother,
but can experience the reality and the love, of Both!
> So a baby, a rock or a tomato cannot be
..
> an atheist.
>
> Mark.
>
There goes 99.999999999999% of the atheist membership!!!! B^D
They are GLOBAL DECLINE since the atheist regimes heyday in the
20th century atheist tyrannies!
# Subject: Re: US religious now at 85% - It's GOD in a LANDSLIDE!!!
# -Atheists wallow at 2.3% worldwide, 0.7% in the USA! -a pitiful
# fraction of the minority of non-believers! B^D
#
# From: fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au>
# Newsgroups:
# alt.atheism,aus.religion,alt.religion,aus.politics,
# alt.politics.republicans, alt.politics.democrats,uk.politics.misc
# Message-ID: <8QNtl.26734$cu.1...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
# Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:07:32 GMT
#
# American Religious Identification Survey, Summary Report March 2009:
#
# "Self-identification of U.S. Adult Population by Religious Tradition
#
# 2001 2008
#
# Religious 167,254,000 (80%) 182,198,000 (80%)
#
# Agnostics 991,000 (0.5%) 1,985,000 (0.9%)
#
# Atheists 902,000 (0.4%) 1,621,000 (0.7%)
#
#
#
# BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAA!
#
#
# 0.7% of Americans!! B^D 2.3% worldwide!!! B^D
#
# 'NON-RELIGIOUS' DOES NOT = ATHEIST, YOU DISHONEST CRETINS!
#
#
# EVEN THE AGNOSTICS BEAT YOU!!! **AND** they grew FASTER!!!! B^D
Syd
>
>
PDW
Syd
>
> >> Alex W. wrote:
>
> >>> It may be technically correct to refer to a baby as atheist,
> >>> but it is misleading because "X is an atheist" is a
> >>> statement on a person's worldview -- which a baby is
> >>> incapable of.
>
> >> But then you quickly run into a philosophical conundrum - at which point
> >> is a person "capable" of being a theist? When he's two? Four? Ten? Sixteen?
>
> >> At which point do you draw a line and say "clearly now this child is
> >> capable of having a worldview of his own and from this day on we can
> >> call him either a theist or an atheist"?
>
> When they reach the Age of Reason,
Which you obviously have not.
PDW
Syd
> Richo wrote:
> > On Jun 26, 7:33 pm, harsha <harsha....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I was recently debating with a theist about burden of Proof lying on
> >> Theists and not Atheists since they first made the claim of God.
>
> >> I said Atheism is a lack of belief in God and since everyone is born
> >> without any idea of God until they are first introduced to this
> >> Theistic claim, everyone is an Atheist to begin with.
>
> And those who never learn any better, remain atheists, which explains
> Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Ill Junk
>
No.
Your guilt by association is meaningless, Failednuts.
Just like the rest of your 'arguments.'
PDW
Jimbo
Not to mention that neither Stalin nor Pol Pot were Atheists. Stalin
was a member of the Eastern Orthodox Church, and Pol Pot was a Daoist.
John Smith
On Jun 28, 1:07 am, fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> Richo wrote:
> > On Jun 26, 7:33 pm, harsha <harsha....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I was recently debating with a theist about burden of Proof lying on
> >> Theists and not Atheists since they first made the claim of God.
>
> >> I said Atheism is a lack of belief in God and since everyone is born
> >> without any idea of God until they are first introduced to this
> >> Theistic claim, everyone is an Atheist to begin with.
>
> And those who never learn any better, remain atheists, which explains
> Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Ill Junk
Ahhh .... so you are admitting those who "Learn better" become
wiccans!?!?!?!?!
Virgil
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> Richo wrote:
> > On Jun 26, 7:33 pm, harsha <harsha....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I was recently debating with a theist about burden of Proof lying on
> >> Theists and not Atheists since they first made the claim of God.
> >>
> >> I said Atheism is a lack of belief in God and since everyone is born
> >> without any idea of God until they are first introduced to this
> >> Theistic claim, everyone is an Atheist to begin with.
>
>
> And those who never learn any better, remain atheists, which explains
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HUNDREDS MORE...
http://www.celebatheists.com/?title=Main_Page
--
Virgil
,fasgnadh,
> On Jun 28, 10:11 am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:33:21 GMT, Mike Jones wrote:
>>> Responding to Alan Ford:
>>> [...]
>>>>> Is this the right time to point out that theism requires the belief in
>>>>> at least one deity but that there are religions out there which make do
>>>>> without one?
>>>>
Yes, many atheists even claim that Nth Korea's atheist state is a
'religion' because it blindly follows it's Atheist Cult leader, but all
atheist regimes have been like that, thei blind leading the infantile,
gullible and low-IQ cretins! In the better educated West, Atheism has
never taken hold;
But Western atheists still claim to be a religion, presumably because
they are tax cheats like L. Ron Hubbard, who made up his own religion
as a business Front;
# It's Official, Atheists claim to be a persecuted RELIGION: B^D
#
#
# "THE Atheist Foundation of Australia has lodged complaints
# of religious discrimination in Melbourne and Hobart
# after being refused permission to put atheist
# advertising on buses." - The Age 29/1/2009
#
# "atheism counts as a religion, though we say
# we're not one," Dr Perkins said."
Atheist sects continue to argue over their various Schisms and Doctrinal
disputes:
>>>> Is this the right time to point out that atheism has fuck all to do with
>>>> religions?
>>>
Even though it claims to be one!?
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAA
You poor, lost atheists are the saddest most confused cult
that I have ever experienced, and I've been Love Bombed by Moonies!!! B^D
You blokes make their 'theology' and beliefs look cogent and rational!!!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAA
>>> Nope. Atheism is /precisely/ and /absolutely/ about religions.
>>> Its not about making tea.
Perhaps if it was it would at least be OF SOME USE! B^D
>>> Its not about going on holiday.
Oh, I dunno, all the Atheist Champions have disappeared since
I started demolishing their illogical and contradictory
ideology.. WHICH THIS THREAD AMPLY ILLUSTRATES!!!! B^]
>>> Its not about what you watch on TV.
>>> Its /simply/ and /only/ about religions.
>>> Its the /only/ "not" position available in the list of options.
It sure seems to be the atheist's OBSESSION, they are always
whining about, misrepresenting and lying about RELIGIONS! B^D
>> I believe you are wrong on this.
>>
>> The root is "theos" -- "God".
>> Therefore,m atheism is about faith.
>>
>> Religion is quite a different kettle of fish -- it is
>> organised, structured and communal faith.
>
> You are right.
> Atheism is about gods - about not believing in gods, not having faith
> in gods.
>
> A.theos - godless.
But *not believing* in God is not being Without God.. the sunlight
continues to shine on you even if you don't believe in the Light..
the gentle rain falls on believer and non-believer alike.
No one is without God. ;-)
> Count the number of gods you believe in/worship/adore/fear "have a
> relationship with" - and if the grand total comes to zero then you
> are an atheist.
>
So all those atheists who paid to have their beliefs that there PROBABLY
is no God are actually Agnostics!
Kool! Their numbert just keep growing!
> Mark.
---------
Count the number of atheists who can mount a logical argument,
cogent, coherent and supported by evidence for their beliefs...
if the number is zero, then you are now witnessing the Last Hurrah
of Western Atheism, already a SPENT FORCE but living on credit! B^D
It's champions are all retired or defeated, trophies upon my wall -
I have had to install a new mantle piece above which to to fit them all;
Virgil and his sockrats;
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Aidan http://www.humanisthall.net/Trophy3.jpg
Lord Vetinari http://www.humanisthall.net/Trophy3.jpg
Uncle Vic
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Hatter http://www.humanisthall.net/Trophy3.jpg
Panama Fraud http://www.ardencreek.com/dimages/p-92-0.jpg
Bob Young http://www.humanisthall.net/Trophy3.jpg
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Abu Baker
Bashir: http://www.humanisthall.net/Trophy3.jpg
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Carey Kitten http://www.humanisthall.net/Trophy3.jpg
fasgnadh
> Trance Gemini agrees with bipolar dogmatism, no nuance here, guys;
>> Mike Jones believes he's a lightbulb, on but dim:
>>> Responding to Trance Gemini:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> The default base definition of atheism is lack of belief in gods. That
>>>> is the minimum required to be an atheist.
>>>> Anything over and above that is a *qualified* form of atheism.
>>>> So, basically you have:
>>>> atheism (trivial) - base definition: lacks a belief in god(s) strong
>>>> atheism - qualified form: states that gods do not exist or to phrase it
>>>> your way "I believe there are no gods".
>>>> Strong atheism requires that a person is making a conscious decision
>>>> regarding a belief to which they've been exposed.
>>>> A baby cannot be a strong atheist because they are not capable of that.
>>>> A baby is an atheist trivially and by default because they are also
>>>> incapable of being a theist.
That beleif explains how the atheist tyrants came about, they
were born atheist and never learnt any better so they became
atheist tyrants.
It's so simple to see why every atheist regime was a brutal regime when
you atheists reveal how you 'think'(sic) B^D
>>> What the **** is all this "strong" and "trivial" crap?
>>>
It's called a SCHISM, atheims is RIVEN by them, he is on one side of
the Yawning Chasm of atheist confusion and contradiction, and you
are on the other..
>>> Being an atheist has no variable degrees. Its an on\off thing. You can't
>>> have a "trivially off" lightbulb, or a "strongly off" lightbulb. Its off,
>>> or it isn't.
No dimmer switches in North Kore yet. eh?
Oh that's right, YOU ATHEISTS DON'T EVEN HAVE ELECTRICKERY! B^D
Mapping the atheist world, look for the Darkness;
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/dprk/images/dprk-dmsp-dark.jpg
>> I agree that it's on or off and that there is no third state of
>> neutral.
>
> Having met people for whom the issue was so utterly
> irrelevant that they couldn't even be bothered to be atheist
> (as it were), I suspect it might be possible to argue
> against that. They simply do not care either way and, when
> asked, will respond with a shrug (mental or physical). Is
> it atheism if the answer is <shrug> "whatever" <shrug>?
And that is what the average atheist eventually concludes, just before
they go shopping for a more rational world view!!! "Whatever"
they have given up trying to make sense out of irrational and
illogical INTERNAL contradictions!
After all, it's not as if understanding what it is will help, it's the
shallow end of Nihilism and none of it is going anywhere! B^D
Lifeline for atheists:
http://www.beyondblue.org.au/index.aspx?
Music therapy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNHs25qtAqI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2JoHBtvv6Q
bob young
Jimbo wrote:
And fastnerd is a selfgratificationalist
bob young
John Smith wrote:
fastnerd wil never admit anything
other than being a fool
bob young
Virgil wrote:
Thanks - a tad of common sense for the ignorant fool fastnerd
[And I normally refrain from insults here - but he is an exception]
>
>
> http://www.celebatheists.com/?title=Main_Page
>
> --
> Virgil
fasgnadh
> Virgil wrote:
>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>>> Responding to Richo:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>> An atheist is someone capable of being a theist who is not a theist.
>>>
>>>
few pursue it so energetically as Richo, Mike Jones and their
intellectual leader, Virgil the post forger and cyberstalker.
>> only theists like fasgnadh succeed
>
> . . . . . . and on a daily basis !
Which is why I OWN alt.atheism! B^]
http://media.bigoo.ws/content/image/funny/funny_1166.jpg
Dimwitted atheists will believe ANYTHING, except the truth! B^D
--
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Christopher A. Lee
wrote:
>Jimbo wrote:
Why not just say wanker because that's too long a word for him to
understand?
In Brave New World Aldous Huxler described it as "surreptitious
autoeroticism".
But either way as a troll he's a master baiter.
Jimbo
>
> - Show quoted text -
I typically just ignore him now. He's proven to be particularly
ignorant.
fasgnadh
> On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:41:59 -0400, Christopher A. Lee
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:22:25 -0700 (PDT), Richo
>> <m.richa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jun 26, 7:33 pm, harsha <harsha....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I said Atheism is a lack of belief in God and since everyone is born
>>>> without any idea of God until they are first introduced to this
>>>> Theistic claim, everyone is an Atheist to begin with.
>>>
>>> I don't agree with the application of the definition of atheist to
>>> beings not *capable* of belief.
But if it wasn't.. THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY ATHEISTS!!!
>>> A complete innocent - someone who has never heard of God cannot
>>> believe or disbelieve - the concept doesn't apply.
>>> So a baby, a rock or a tomato cannot be a theist nor can it be an
>>> atheist.
>> The a- prefix makes it binary. They are certainly not theist.
>>
>> They are TRIVIALLY atheist.
>>
>> Why keep ignoring the "trivially"?
>>
>> The day they discover that theists exist, their state of not believing
>> in something doesn't change.
>>
>> All that happens is that the fact that people believe something, gets
>> added to their experience base.
>
> The point here is neither belief or the absence thereof but
> the capacity for either.
>
> It may be technically correct to refer to a baby as atheist,
> but it is misleading because "X is an atheist" is a
> statement on a person's worldview -- which a baby is
> incapable of.
>
But atheists will never accept such REASON, because they are desperate
to boost their pitiful numbers and to do so they claim BABIES are
atheists, COMA PATIENTS are atheists, THE MENTALLY DEFECTIVE are
atheists, the elderly with Alzheimers are atheists and even dog
shit and snot are atheists, because none of them have the brains
to formulate a rational theistic or even agnostic viewpoint! B^D
>
>
>>>> But he claims that they are born with a lack of belief in existence of
>>>> God and also lack of belief in non existence of God which makes them
>>>> Agnostics.
>>>>
>>> No that's wrong.
>>> Agnosticism is a belief about knowledge and the possibility of
>>> knowledge.
>>>
>>>> But my point is, the God concept is an extraordinary claim and until
>>>> it is first introduced to you, there can be no such thing as a lack of
>>>> belief in its non existentiality.
>>>>
>>>> What is your opinion?
>>> To describe a rock as a non smoker - because it doesn't smoke or as a
>>> vegetarian - because it doesn't eat meat - or an atheist because it
>>> doesn't believe in god - is to apply labels and concepts to things
>>> outside their scope - its just gibberish.
>> People wouldn't describe rocks as atheists or non-smokers unless some
>> idiot raised the context of them being smokers or theists.
>>
>> Which usually happens when they can't grasp that kids don't believe
>> until they are taught to, and that if they aren't taught it they
>> remain in exactly the same sate of not believing that they were born
>> with.
>
> Let's not forget the distinct possibility of environmental
> absorption. A great deal of the knowledge that kids learn
> is acquired by osmosis, by observing adults and their
> surroundings and internalising whatever information or
> behavioural cues they glean from that. This would not
> constitute active teaching, but it can and does open the
> door widely to a diffuse awareness of something other,
> supernatural. And as much as you may wish to deny this, it
> remains a fact that our society and culture -- as much as
> any other -- is suffused with religious cues, with hints and
> references to divine beings, with pointers to belief and
> worship which are inevitably incorporated into the worldview
> of children as they are being socialised and accultured.
And that occurs because Spiritual values create and sustain
civilisation, and mankinfd, with the exception of a small number of
atheists, can appreciate the difference between religious truth,
which has produced our civilisation, and atheism which has produced
nothing.. except a handful of vile atheist TYRANNIES and a grave-yard
full of 60-100 million victims of atheist regimes!
Naturally religion suffuses culture, as you have admitted.
60% of the Old Testament Laws are directly embedded in our
secular Laws.
You cannot raise children who are not deeply affected by
living in societies shaped by the Word Of God.
The crazy part is that you would want to! B^D
Given that we have all see what your Atheist
Alternative looks like:
The Cultural Devolution:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIrUHVFkm9A
Nth korean military parade
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv7wMk9oThI
> They may decide not to accept them at face value, they may
> even decide to reject them outright, but they still ave to
> live with them because they form an integral part of their
> cultural language.
It's called CIVILISATION, why do you want to deconstruct it?
And even then, religion will automatically arise, as it
did in the past, out of peoples experience of the world..
What next, will you want to blind children so they can't see the
natural world and experience the WONDER of which Einstein spoker? B^p
> I also suspect you underestimate basic human psychology. As
> a species, we are frightfully credulous.
You are now speaking of atheists.
The rest of the world at least had the sense to worship
a plausible Deity, the morons the atheists have worshipped,
Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim ill fuk, are sufficient proof
of the gullibility of atheists!
> We are disposed by
> natural inclination to give credence to all manner of
> intangibles, unprovables and the plain impossible to the
> point where we will let such beliefs influence if not even
> dictate our behaviour and choices.
Were that the case it would be better to place faith
in an abstract of Goodness and Love, not some Cult
leader in an Atheist tyranny!
Q.E.D.
> The fact therefore that
> someone does not subscribe to the organised belief in a
> deity does not by itself make that person any more rational
> than a god-botherer,
You only have to read the atheists posts in alt.atheism to see that!
> nor does it deny the fundamental aspect
> of his psyche which is programmed to believe in the
> existence of something, anything, outside our direct
> observation and reality. The difference between believing
> in guardian angels, Lady Luck or Murphy's Law and declaring
> one's affiliation to a church/temple/mosque is one of degree
> of organisation, no more.
Atheist beliefs are amongst the most irrational and dangerous;
# It's Official, Atheists claim to be a persecuted RELIGION: B^D
#
#
# "THE Atheist Foundation of Australia has lodged complaints
# of religious discrimination in Melbourne and Hobart
# after being refused permission to put atheist
# advertising on buses." - The Age 29/1/2009
#
# "atheism counts as a religion, though we say
# we're not one," Dr Perkins said."
__________________________
"Court rules atheism a religion
Decides 1st Amendment protects prison inmate's
right to start study group
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45874
"
A federal court of appeals ruled yesterday Wisconsin
prison officials violated an inmate's rights because
they did not treat atheism as a religion.
"Atheism is [the inmate's] religion, and the group that
he wanted to start was religious in nature even though
it expressly rejects a belief in a supreme being," the
7th Circuit Court of Appeals said."
Now all it needs is a REFORMATION to drag it out
of the Dark Age of irrational superstition, as
was evidenced in EVERY Atheist regime, and into the
Modern Era!
# "it makes utterly no difference which goddesses or gods
# you believe in, as long as you have some...
# Me, I'd suggest Bastet." - Cary Kittrell
#
# (has he misspelled 'Kitten'? ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h-ZqcPl7rI
The Atheist Catechism:
Published as part of the Official "Atheist Quote of the Month" liturgy
where all the Atheists gather to affirm what best expresses their beliefs:
# Subject: aa - The Polls are Open! AQOTM for Nov 2008
# Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 08:10:11 -0500
# From: *nemo* <nemo...@earthlink.diespam.com>
# Message-ID: <aKedndoPx4epAbPU...@earthlink.com>
#
# 1) The universe is ruled by a wizard, a zombie, and a ghost.
# Only the ghost is with us now, even though
# the zombie shacks up in our gall bladders and the wizard
# is omnipresent. You'll want to stay on the wizard's good
# side, because he has this thing for the aroma of
# flame-broiled human flesh. Oh, and this ripple and
# this Wheat Thin will turn into chunks of the zombie
# if a designated wizard's apprentice casts a spell on them.
# Thus enchanted, the cracker can be used to reveal the
# true demonic nature of Jews, much as a garlic pizza
# could out vampires (if we believed in such things,
# which we don't cuz that would be silly, dontcha know).
# We know these things to be true despite having not
# one damn reason to believe any of them.
#
# Authior By: DuhIdiot (Atheist )
# Nominated: Christopher A Lee (Atheist )
# Seconded: AZ Nomad (Atheist )
#
# Supported by the following card-carrying
# atheists:
#
# DuhIdiot (Atheist )
# Christopher A Lee (Atheist )
# AZ Nomad (Atheist )
# Robibnikoff (Atheist )
# Kilmir (Atheist )
# Smiler (Atheist )
# Douglas Berry (Atheist )
# pbamvv (Atheist )
# Uncle Vic (Atheist )
# johac (Atheist )
# Louis 14 (Atheist )
# Frank Mayhar (Atheist )
# Tim McGauchy (Atheist )
# Vipera Berus (Atheist )
"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing
� they believe in anything." - G.K. Chesterton:
Virgil
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >> Everyone is capable of being a fool,
>
But few pursue it so effectively as fasgnadh
>
>
>
> Which is why I OWN alt.atheism!
Anyone claiming to "own" an unmoderated Newsgroup is both a fool and a
liar.
>
> http://media.bigoo.ws/content/image/funny/funny_1166.jpg
Another example of Fasgnadh's resorting to personal attacks for lack of
any better arguments.
>
> Dimwitted atheists will believe ANYTHING, except the truth!
Fasgnadh can't find truth with both hands and a wheelbarrow.
>
> Bob Young, just another atheist pussy; B^D
Another example of Fasgnadh's resorting to personal attacks for lack of
any better arguments.
>
> Virgil and his sockrats;
Another example of Fasgnadh's resorting to personal attacks for lack of
any better arguments.
> Mark Richardson http://forumspile.com/Owned/Owned-BabyScribble.jpg
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any better arguments.
>
> Ravin
> http://www.virginiabritishmotorcycleclub.org/images/2007rallye/rat_trophy.jpg
Another example of Fasgnadh's resorting to personal attacks for lack of
any better arguments.
>
> Hysteria: http://www.vancones.org/Images/2006/Bonaire/PA/Rat_large.JPG
Another example of Fasgnadh's resorting to personal attacks for lack of
any better arguments.
>
> zencyclops
> http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n122/Mike_in_Oregon/Trophy%20Pics/DSCN3364.
> jpg?t=1246156933
Another example of Fasgnadh's resorting to personal attacks for lack of
any better arguments.
>
> Jason Breen http://www.humanisthall.net/Trophy3.jpg
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any better arguments.
>
> Aidan http://www.humanisthall.net/Trophy3.jpg
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any better arguments.
>
> Lord Vetinari http://www.humanisthall.net/Trophy3.jpg
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any better arguments.
>
> Uncle Vic
> http://neatorama.cachefly.net/images/2009-04/computer-mouse-taxidermy.jpg
Another example of Fasgnadh's resorting to personal attacks for lack of
any better arguments.
>
> Hatter http://www.humanisthall.net/Trophy3.jpg
Another example of Fasgnadh's resorting to personal attacks for lack of
any better arguments.
>
> Panama Fraud http://www.ardencreek.com/dimages/p-92-0.jpg
Another example of Fasgnadh's resorting to personal attacks for lack of
any better arguments.
>
> Kelsey
> Bjarnyardson: http://www.humanisthall.net/Trophy3.jpg
Another example of Fasgnadh's resorting to personal attacks for lack of
any better arguments.
>
> Abu Baker
> Bashir: http://www.humanisthall.net/Trophy3.jpg
Another example of Fasgnadh's resorting to personal attacks for lack of
any better arguments.
>
> Napisan: http://www.humanisthall.net/Trophy3.jpg
Another example of Fasgnadh's resorting to personal attacks for lack of
any better arguments.
>
> Mark K. Dildo http://www.humanisthall.net/Trophy3.jpg
>
> Carey Kitten http://www.birkoph.com/owned/owned-cat.jpg
>
> Barb Lardarse
> http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/PhillyAirgunner65/DSC00504.jpg?t=124615
> 6903
>
> inSanity's Little Humper
> http://www.trappingandtaxidermy.com/pictures/picspages/fullsizes/whiteskunk.jpg
Another example of Fasgnadh's resorting to personal attacks for lack of
any better arguments.
>
> Kali: http://www.humanisthall.net/Trophy3.jpg
Another example of Fasgnadh's resorting to personal attacks for lack of
any better arguments.
>
> Seon: http://www.humanisthall.net/Trophy3.jpg
Another example of Fasgnadh's resorting to personal attacks for lack of
any better arguments.
>
> Syd: http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/PhillyAirgunner65/DSC00511.jpg
Another example of Fasgnadh's resorting to personal attacks for lack of
any better arguments.
--
Virgil
Virgil
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >>> On Jun 26, 7:33 pm, harsha <harsha....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> I said Atheism is a lack of belief in God and since everyone is born
> >>>> without any idea of God until they are first introduced to this
> >>>> Theistic claim, everyone is an Atheist to begin with.
> >>>
> >>> I don't agree with the application of the definition of atheist to
> >>> beings not *capable* of belief.
>
> But if it wasn't.. THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY ATHEISTS!!!
Many atheists at one time believed in Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy or
other myths. But eventually learned that those myths were just myths.
And carried that analogy over to myths of various gods.
>
> The Atheist Catechism:
Atheists are much too independent as thinkers to have any "Catechism"
that they can agree on.
Seems quite as reasonable as any theist myth. But atheists don't believe
in mere myths.
--
Virgil
bob young
"Christopher A. Lee" wrote:
. . . .and a master of crap also.
Best avoided at all costs
bob young
fasgnadh wrote:
All you own is an overdeveloped feeling of insecurity;
coupled with an inherent desire to show off to others.
Guess you hadn't noticed, you make a perfect cock up of it !
You never see animals going through the absurd
and often horrible fooleries of magic and religion.
Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly.
It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent
but not, as yet, quite intelligent enough.
[Aldous Leonard Huxley]
Hatter
> > Richo, clearly one of the more intelligent atheists agrees with my
> > logic, stated MONTHS AGO..
>
> > How are you bitterly divided atheist shills going to resolve
> > this deep schism in your beliefs???
>
> If you have logic behind you, you are not very good at it. I see many
> logical fallacies in your argument, so many in fact it is hard to tell
> what your argument even is. I will take you one, please state one
> argument for me to thrash. I am the legendary troll destroyer,
> welcome, present one to three arguments at a time.
There is no such thing as a troll destroyer. There are troll refuters,
which is to say there are troll feeders. Sometimes I do not remember
this fact myself.
Hatter
bob young
Jimbo wrote:
Welcome to the club
Davej
> [...]
Hey there cross-posting dumbass, how about limiting your crapfests to
only a few appropriate groups.
I don't see any way to answer the question in the subject line because
the definitions of these words are not constant nor are they
completely unambiguous.