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fasgnadh

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May 26, 2012, 4:44:32 AM5/26/12
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Mike Lovell declares atheists prefer monologue:
> UPDATE:
>
> Associates of the previous moderators were kind enough to forward the
> moderation over, to allow "alt.atheism.moderated" to live again.

An excellent idea, which has my FULL SUPPORT!

Precisely what I have always advised atheists to do:
create a hermetically sealed sheltered workshop where the
shared delusions and mutual tool fondling of weak minded atheists
can take place without the danger of their feeble intellects and
illogical prejudices being challenged by anyone! B^D


I'm concerned that you describe it already as 'non-functional',
shouldn't you wait till some posts arrive before writing it off? B^D

As it died from lack of interest before, I'm sure
it will die from lack of interest again. ;-)

And frankly, no one will will miss you while you are gone.

As every atheist regime in history shows, atheism regards
freedom of speech and thought as anathema. The atheist regimes
always preferred censorship and the suppression of freedom
and of thought.

The principle of "Moderation" of Free Speech is an atheist value;

"WHAT YOU DON'T SEE CAN'T HURT YOU:"

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Soviet_censorship_with_Stalin.jpg


It will be a perfect environment for the anti-intellectuals who are the
last remaining atheists in alt.atheism and talk.atheism, now almost
defunct because, as we all know, atheists really can't defend their
illogical nonsense unless they can silence their critics.

Like all closed systems, the Church, Imams in Iran, the atheist Central
Committee of the USSR, Maoist China, Pol Pot's Cambodia and North Korea,
the atheist NGs cannot survive without the brutal repression
of those nasty 'ideas' which threaten it.

> Moderation for that newsgroup is now operational again *BUT* there is no
> approval system in place at this time.

Sounds just like EVERY idea-stifling atheist tyranny in history! B^D

Why, you could be DESCRIBING how the North Korean Atheist regime
operates today!!!! B^]

> So posts will not be appearing.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA


So it's already perfect for atheists!!!!

After all, they only have one idea
and really don't like hearing any others!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!


> I provisioned a server to handle moderation requests,

It's an older Soviet model, combining a conveyor belt to carry
non-atheist missives directly into a furnace!

B^D

You have to laugh at people who can't handle 20th century
freedom of speech and thought!


> the idea being that *ALL* pending and rejected posts will be
> available for scrutiny by anyone who wishes to do so -
> Along with reasons for rejection (if applicable).

B^D And you thought Soviet bureaucracy was dead!

If atheists were running Twitter it would take SIX MONTHS
for your Tweet to be rejected and trashed.. but you would
be able to see the rejection letter and see why!

How much more 'democratic' and 'Free' do you think it gets
in atheist regimes?

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA


What a HOOT! B^D


> This should give a good deal of transparency

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA

"Your Post is un-Atheist" - Stalin, The Transparent Tyrant!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAA

> and make it
> glaringly obvious if any moderator(s) are bringing personal opinions

"Your post satirising atheism has been rejected not because of
our personal prejudices and deep anti-intellectualism, but because
humour must be regulated for atheism to exist."

- KGB office of Humour Regulation!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA

That's fine, it's not as if there is anything PERSONAL
in their oppression of free ideas! ;-)

> into matters rather than impartially following the agreed rules.

I urge all atheists to abandon the free open forums and huddle in their
intellectual ghetto, after all.. you simply can't hold your own in
a free and open forum.. you NEED protection from the cognitive
dissonance when ideas challenge your prejudices.


> It is live now but a work in progress:
>
> http://usenet.b0h0.com/alt.atheism.moderated/
>
>
> I'll be working on the approval/automation system to try and bring it
> all up again as soon as possible. In the meantime you should be able to
> see any posted messages appear in "Pending".


"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

But it was not just the Atheism of the leadership,
but of the entire atheist State apparatus;

The Atheist leadership's policies were implemented under
the Red Terror, via gulags and executions, the use of
every arm of the state for anti-religious propaganda
and the forced indoctrination of CHILDREN! B^[

"the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
- Daniel Peris,
"Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853

"Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"


It was called alt.atheism.moderated. 8^o


> Now we're back to the requiment of moderators.

In the old days there were plenty to choose from;

> We need a team of them
> to make sure posts are dealt with quickly and hopefully around the clock
> (via moderators in different timezones). I think the technical
> comptency could be dropped, as I should be able to make it easily
> managable via the web.
>
> So don't forget, if you're interested or would like to nominate someone
> then nows a good time! :-)


Not Bakunin, he's not orthodox enough, too anarchist.. and Molotov
is not trustworthy, Trotsky would have been good in the role,
but he was moderated by an ice-pick!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA


Vurgil and Ravin1! The OBVIOUS choices, not too bright,
but you need post forgers who can make it look like
there is lively debate! B^D


Just like they do now!!!!! B^D

You can have the OFFICIAL (fake) THEIST OPPOSITION
without any of the real ones! B^D

> Time for some sleep!

http://timenewsfeed.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/rtr1i8_resize.jpg?w=576

Exactly what censored Newsgroups induce, Comrade Lovell!


Enjoy the slumber, and leave the public spaces to those
whose intellect dominates them.

B^D


http://www.anunews.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/aa-censorship.jpg



---------


The foremost atheist Philosopher of our age recently
launched his new book "Religion for Atheists" and
no atheists are interested in talking about it:


http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com.au/



- Alain de Botton, Lanching his new Book, Religion for Atheists
The Wheeler Centre, Melbourne 19/3/2012


http://www.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/stories/2012/03/19/3455152.htm

---------

alt.atheism FAQ:

http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/


http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl=en&dmode=source



"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"We must combat religion"
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

“Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!”
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)



http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest


"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest

http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-family_1001874c.jpg

fasgnadh

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May 26, 2012, 4:53:41 AM5/26/12
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Christopher A. Lee applies for the job of CCCP Censor: 8^o
> Mike Lovell shows how things will work
>
>> On 2012-05-26, Joe Bruno<ajt...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> You and Chris the Piss.
>>
>> You've lost me, have you been drinking? :-)
>
> He lost it long ago.

So that's the shape of things to come! 8^o

I can see how moderation will make it possible
for the atheists to achieve the goal that has eluded them since the
collapse of the USSR;

to silence such critics,
even if he is simply making a nomination .. AS INVITED!


We can all see how the new Atheist Politburo will operate! 8^o





From: fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.atheism,alt.agnostiscism,
alt.religion,alt.philosophy,aus.politics,uk.politics.misc,
alt.politics.republicans,alt.usenet.kooks
Subject: Great News! Atheists decide to emigrate to North Korea
so they can't hear their critics!
Re: alt.atheism.moderated - "It's alive again, non-fuctional"
- B^D that's for sure!
Message-ID: <FJ0wr.7290$v14....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>
Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 18:44:32 +1000

fasgnadh

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May 26, 2012, 5:24:53 AM5/26/12
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On 26/05/2012 5:55 PM, SkyEyes wrote:
> On May 25, 10:25 pm, Mike Lovell<dev.n...@b0h0.com> wrote:
>> UPDATE:

http://project31.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/mortenson-lecture-004.jpg?w=219&h=300

Here’s the cover of a 1990 issue of the very popular humor magazine
Ogonek during the so called "glasnost" period (a kind of openness
directed from above, like "moderated Free Speech", or 'partial
virginity" B^D ). a page of text with a large scissors superimposed, and
the question: "Farewell to censorship?"

NOT IF THE ATHEISTS HAVE THEIR WAY! B^D

This is simply PRICELESS!


>> Moderation for that newsgroup is now operational again *BUT* there is no
>> approval system in place at this time. So posts will not be appearing.


Classic! That's exactly how the USSR operated for SEVENTY YEARS!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA


>> I provisioned a server to handle moderation requests:


http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/images/Great%20Repression%20Human%20Brain%20in%20Cage.jpg


> the idea being

....something that scares atheists! B^D

>> that *ALL* pending and rejected posts will be available for scrutiny

http://www.pastfoundation.org/2006Garbology/images/Small_tipper%20dumps%20trash%2011-05.jpg

Applications for viewing to be made to the Central Committee;


http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss346/Forzati/Intimidation.jpg


>> by anyone who wishes to do so - Along with reasons for rejection (if
>> applicable). This should give a good deal of transparency and make it
>> glaringly obvious if any moderator(s) are bringing personal opinions
>> into matters rather than impartially following the agreed rules.

I assume the rules will be 'moderated' by the Politburo, as well. B^p

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0RneHii7ZKc/TyAoI--5cfI/AAAAAAAABdA/vqwNNaJtQQ8/s1600/censorship1.jpg


>> It is live now but a work in progress:

http://www.crusher.net.au/images/Hammer-Crusher.jpg

>
> Oh, for joy, for joy! I<heart> a.a.m., and have missed it all the
> years its been gone.

It will be wonderful when you only have to hear the ideas
you already like.

Just like old times in EVERY ATHEIST REGIME in history:

http://djcadchina.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/red-guards.jpg


Enjoy conformity with the Group Mind! B^D

> Thank you!

You really deserve it! B^D


> Brenda Nelson,

Which subunit of the Borg are you in?

> A.A.#34

> BAAWA Knight

So open advocacy of mass murder and genocide will be ok in a.a.m?

# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We kill theists and shit down their throats
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA

Not satisfied with murder, Steve favours GENOCIDE of every
Muslim man woman and child, just for believing in something
the Atheist thugs want to prohibit again, freedom of thought and belief;

# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
# Subject: Re: Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
# Message-ID: <8t6ve5hs41qn3a2rv...@4ax.com>
# Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:18 -0800
#
# On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:32 +0200, "Katrina"
# <blondes_g...@yahoo.com> wrote:
#
# >Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
#
# It is the most foul, disgusting filth on Earth.
# The sooner we nuke you fuckers, the better.
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA

That will be allowed, but prayer will be prohibited.


B^p


Welcome to the atheist gulag.

raven1

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May 26, 2012, 11:17:30 AM5/26/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 18:44:32 +1000, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Mike Lovell declares atheists prefer dialogue with people who don't rant and rave like homeless crackheads.

Fixed it for you, oh raving, drooling loon.

---
raven1
aa # 1096
EAC Vice President (President in charge of vice)
BAAWA Knight

Mike Lovell

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May 26, 2012, 11:33:07 AM5/26/12
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On 2012-05-26, raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 18:44:32 +1000, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Mike Lovell declares atheists prefer dialogue with people who don't rant and rave like homeless crackheads.
>
> Fixed it for you, oh raving, drooling loon.

Don't have the original for this, he's probably plonked for me due to
rambling.

Interesting how worried they seem to be getting about this.

Anyone woud think they were posting off-topic and trolling, and were
worried this would have to stop! :-p


Mind you it's not as if anyone can be forced over to a different
newsgroup.

--
Jews, Christians & Muslims
The content of your posts will show how much you
really believe God is looking over your shoulder

fasgnadh

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May 26, 2012, 11:35:41 AM5/26/12
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raven1 shows how post forging is SOP for atheists:
> On 26/05/2012 6:44 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> Mike Lovell declares atheists prefer monologue:
>>> UPDATE:
>>>
>>> Associates of the previous moderators were kind enough to forward the
>>> moderation over, to allow "alt.atheism.moderated" to live again.
>>
>> An excellent idea, which has my FULL SUPPORT!
>>
>> Precisely what I have always advised atheists to do:
>> create a hermetically sealed sheltered workshop where the
>> shared delusions and mutual tool fondling of weak minded atheists
>> can take place without the danger of their feeble intellects and
>> illogical prejudices being challenged by anyone! B^D
>>
>>
>> I'm concerned that you describe it already as 'non-functional',
>> shouldn't you wait till some posts arrive before writing it off? B^D
>>
>> As it died from lack of interest before, I'm sure
>> it will die from lack of interest again. ;-)
>>
>> And frankly, no one will will miss you while you are gone.

How long before you leave, Ravin1?
Ravin1 submits his application to become Chief Party Censor and
post Forger for Atheist Pleasantville:

> Mike Lovell declares atheists prefer dialogue with people who rant and rave like homeless crackheads.
>
> Fixed it



> raven1



--

raven1

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May 26, 2012, 11:47:35 AM5/26/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 18:53:41 +1000, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Christopher A. Lee applies for the job of CCCP Censor: 8^o
>> Mike Lovell shows how things will work
>>
>>> On 2012-05-26, Joe Bruno<ajt...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> You and Chris the Piss.
>>>
>>> You've lost me, have you been drinking? :-)
>>
>> He lost it long ago.
>
>So that's the shape of things to come!

Relax, Fas, I'm sure you'll be allowed to post there if you promise to
do so in a civil manner, instead of ranting and raving like a homeless
crackhead (as usual). I know you're worried about not being invited to
the party, but if you work on overcoming your lack of social skills,
and promise not to piss in the drinks, we'll see what we can do.

raven1

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May 26, 2012, 11:56:50 AM5/26/12
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On Sun, 27 May 2012 01:35:41 +1000, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>raven1 declares atheists prefer dialogue with people who don't
>rant and rave like homeless crackheads. Fasgnadh rants and raves
>like a homeless crackhead in response. Raven1 ignores his rant
>and mocks him in return.

Fixed it for you, Sparky.

fasgnadh

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raven1 retreating after defeat at my hands, begs me to follow: B^D
> On 26/05/2012 6:53 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> Christopher A. Lee applies for the job of CCCP Censor: 8^o
>>> Mike Lovell shows how things will work
>>>
>>>> On 2012-05-26, Joe Bruno<ajt...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> You and Chris the Piss.
>>>>
>>>> You've lost me, have you been drinking? :-)
>>>
>>> He lost it long ago.
>>
>> So that's the shape of things to come! 8^o
>>
>> I can see how moderation will make it possible
>> for the atheists to achieve the goal that has eluded them since the
>> collapse of the USSR;
>>
>> to silence such critics,
>> even if he is simply making a nomination .. AS INVITED!

IS there some way we can help all you tossers make the transition
to your new Sheltered Workshop and Old Folks retirement home a
bit faster?

I would like to enjoy my now unchallenged INTELLECTUAL DOMINANCE of
alt.atheism fully acknowledged by the TOTAL RETREAT, en masse
of ALL THE ATHEISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

B^]

My strategic goal is achieved. Thanks for caving in without a fight!

No one cares what atheists do in a cave out the back.. no one but you
is deluded enough to think of it as EXCLUSIVE in any sense other than
that you can EXCLUDE original thinkers who create cognitive dissonance
by refusing to share your ignorance and prejudice.

Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish, I Say! B^]


>> We can all see how the new Atheist Politburo will operate! 8^o
>
> Relax, Fas,

I'm very relaxed, I have advocated this self-quarrantine by atheists
for years. B^D

Now that all the atheists are collectively admitting defeat
in the free open market of ideas I feel my efforts in demolishing
the Big Lie that is Atheism have been completely successful! B^]

You have all run away, defeated.

It has been clear for months that you just have nothing to say
worth hearing...

all your whining about post sizes, formatting flames..

now you can have Atheist Pleasantville B^D

It's a genuine Win Win..

You go somewhere where you won't be challenged by Big Posts and
Big Ideas and so you can stop whining like a little bitch that
complex arguments make your "Brane Hurtz". B^D

> I'm sure you'll be allowed to post there

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA

You must be fucking Joking! I have never supported Thought Control,
would never post in a moderated shithole, it's against all
my basic committment to FREEDOM of THOUGHT, BELIEF AND SPEECH..
and I am gratified that atheists, as they have done in EVERY ATHEIST
REGIME, are demonstrating that they have no interest in it.

I live free, no weak, forelock-tugging atheist cocksucker
tells me WHAT I can post and WHERE I can post it! B^D

I actually BELIEVE in Free Speech, you feeble fraud,
I would never support any closed group that perverted
Freedom of thought and belief!

I have never given control over what I may say to
some Party hack and I never will... I leave that to you atheists,
as every atheist regime shows, it's your natural style to
bend over to being reamed by the Party controllers. pfffft!

A while back in Oz we had some Racist Rednecks, Pauline Hansons
One Notion Party, try to 'moderate' aus.culture.true-blue,
and we campaigned against them, insisting they could not seize control
of an existing, free NG, and should start their own, moderated
sheltered workshop. Like you weak tossers, they couldn't stand
people who had different ideas to theirs, they couldn't argue their
case, so they simply wanted to PREVENT others, who could, from having
a say! We christened them the Townsville Taliban and kicked their
arses so hard they not only lost the vote to Muzzle free speech
in our NG, but lost heart as their numbers dwindled and never even tried
to start their own Sheltered Workshop.. B^]

So I am more than happy to see you timid atheists slink away into
a Killfile Kollective, where you can finally hear only the voices
which AGREE with you.

As in EVERY atheist regime, the surrender of Freedom to the
Atheist hierarchy is your natural state... enjoy being
Bumboi to the Borg! You clearly need someone to tell you
how to think!

And thanks for the alt.atheism NG, it fits me like a glove!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA


I leave it to you atheist sheep to bend over and have the
Atheist Central Committee insert their rectal thermometer of
Post Propriety into your willing arses.. if they can get your HEADS
out of the way, that is!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA


> if you promise

Look, you atheists have been trying to FORCE your ideas
down my throat from the moment I got here.. you have tried
everything to make me COMPLAINT like all the weak minded atheist tools..
you have jackal pack attacked 5, 10 20 to one, you have
forged my posts, fabricated enough Strawmen to feed a farm of 5000
dairy cattle for a century, tried cajoling, abuse, killfiles and
STILL you cant cope with the influence I have in alt.atheism. B^]

After all your lies and slander.. it's YOU who are in RETREAT!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

Do you really think I WANT to follow you in your Strategic RETREAT
from the free and open exchange of ideas into an atheist ORTHODOXY
I find ridiculous, ignorant, driven by prejudice and completely
IRRELEVANT?

It will just be a rerun of your AQOTM; corrupt, rorted, biased,
distorted, and I destroyed that in a matter of weeks, despite being
officially EXCLUDED from it! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA

Nemo Toad ran away and was never heard from again.

Now I have the satisfaction of watching the entire alt.atheism coven
running for cover!

I can't tell you how satisfying that is! B^]

> to do so in a civil manner,

B^D You had your chance when I arrived here and politely, civilly
asked you all "Why are there no great and enduring Atheist
civilisations? Only a series of grubby, brutal, blood-drenched and
catastrophically FAILED athesit tyrannies"

And you unleashed a tirade of filthy lies, abuse, post forging,
threats from your Warlord who ran to Mummy! B^D pack attacks,
tag team terrorism,

... and guess what.. I'm here and YOU'RE LEAVING!

So.. don't hang about wheedling me to come along, I'm happy to cut you
all loose on the Atheist Titanic!

Off you go.. don't bother to write, no one will be any more interested
in your dull witless dogma when you are locked away than they are now....

> instead of ranting and raving like a homeless
> crackhead (as usual).

So that's your epitaph! B^D

"Ravin1 admits defeat at the hands of a homeless crackhead!"

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHA

Whatever.

> I know you're worried about not being invited to
> the party,

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA

Atheist mind reading.. where they tell you they know you
love pink while you insist you are wearing blue and driving
a blue car because you actually prefer blue! B^D

Priceless

You always did INVENT a fantasy rather than face reality.

Let me make this even more humiliating for you.

I will NEVER seek to post in any moderated atheist NG
because I have NEVER done so in the past and have a
PHILOSOPHICAL OBJECTION to what you atheists simply
bend over and accept....

the notion that someone else is better suited to determine
the worthiness of your ideas than you are! 8^o


Now in your case that is probably true, you are a third rate thinker,
unoriginal, dull, aggressive but without strength, witless,
narrowminded, ungenerous of spirit, so you actually need someone
to regulate your output.. they may even improve it.


But for any intelligent self-respecting human, it is anathema.


So, no,

thanks for your insincere, false and deceitful invitation,
but I have never sought out your threads, you have sought out mine.

I will not miss you at all...

Are you still here? B^D

> but if you work on overcoming your lack of social skills,

You are the one leaving the Dance floor for a private, bitches only
party in the cellar.


Why are you hanging about if it's so fucking wonderful? B^]

> promise not to

Atheists accept the rules because they are dull conformists,
that's why you are all EVACUATING THE PUBLIC ARENA..

you simply CAN'T COMPETE in the FREE MARKET of ideas.

But I now own this NG because MY IDEAS are more attractive
than all the atheist stooges combined.

Why, having seen you surrender, and waved as you all ran away,
would I want to seek your permission to go with you to a place I
despise; Atheist Pleasantville! B^D

Mate.. It's ALL YOURS! You can HAVE IT! B^]


And so, collectively, after months of whining about your plight,
you are all abandoning ship, not just running from my threads,
but from the entire OPEN FORUM! B^]

This is a GLORIOUS TRIUMPH for truth and balance.


The ENTIRE ATHEIST cohort is in RETREAT! B^D

>> From: fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
>> Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.atheism,alt.agnostiscism,
>> alt.religion,alt.philosophy,aus.politics,uk.politics.misc,
>> alt.politics.republicans,alt.usenet.kooks
>> Subject: Great News! Atheists decide to emigrate to North Korea
>> so they can't hear their critics!
>> Re: alt.atheism.moderated - "It's alive again, non-fuctional"
>> - B^D that's for sure!
>> Message-ID: <FJ0wr.7290$v14....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>
>> Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 18:44:32 +1000
>>
>>
>> Mike Lovell declares atheists prefer monologue:
>> > UPDATE:
>> >
>> > Associates of the previous moderators were kind enough to forward the
>> > moderation over, to allow "alt.atheism.moderated" to live again.
>>
>> An excellent idea, which has my FULL SUPPORT!

From the outset, I ENTHUSIASTICALLY SUPPORTED the atheists
'punishing' me by all running away to a broom cupboard where they can
be free of criticism and laughter and leaving me all alone
in the free open market place of USENET ideas (where I chose to
be in the FIRST place. ;-)

Oh Woe is me. B^]

Let me count the ways I will miss them...

...
..

......
...
..
.....




Oh Please Brer Atheist, Don't leave me all alone with the rest of USENET
while the 6 of you run away and lock yourselves in a cave! B^D

raven1

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May 26, 2012, 1:47:17 PM5/26/12
to
On Sun, 27 May 2012 03:21:37 +1000, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>raven1 retreating after defeat at my hands

ROTFLMAO! Loudly proclaiming victory on Usenet is an almost certain
indication that you've lost rather badly. And why should I go anywhere
while you insist on doing bad stand-up comedy that begs to be heckled?

the winnower

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May 26, 2012, 10:16:32 PM5/26/12
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Mike Lovell, clueless dupe, accepted Raven1's forgery without question:
> raven1, dishonest atheist coward, forged my post and misled atheist dupe Mike:
>> On 26/05/2012 6:44 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>> Mike Lovell declares atheists prefer monologue:

Raven1's forgery replaced my words with his, but falsely attributed to me:

# >>> Mike Lovell declares atheists prefer dialogue with people who
# >>> don't rant and rave like homeless crackheads.
#
# >> Fixed it for you, oh raving, drooling loon.

"Fixed it for you" is the atheist forgers way of admitting that
they can't debate what you ACTUALLY SAY, so they delete it,
replace it with THEIR text, and then the delusional frauds
DEBATE THEIR OWN FORGERY! B^D

They are TALKING TO THEMSELVES, they are NOT interested in dialog with
people of DIFFERENT OPINIONS, they are control freaks who want to CENSOR
AND SUPPRESS any views which dissent from their own PREJUDICES and DOGMA.

So they really have no place in free open, unmoderated USENET,
they belong in a hermetically sealed sheltered workshop where their
fragile egos will never be challenged by the truth, and they can
mutually tool fondle and stroke each others fragile egos.

This raises the question, no one wants these dishonest frauds,
slanderers and liars in alt.atheism, so why are they hanging about
when they have a sheltered workshop where they can lie to each other ALL
DAY and no one will ever set them straight?

If Atheist Pleasantville is where they want to be
(and we want them to be ;-) ....JUST Go! B^D

And then all the liars, frauds and post forgers I have encountered
in the last two years will be in ONE PLACE, and out of alt.atheism,
which, like the former atheist regimes, dan then slowly recover honesty,
decency and integrity.

Atheist Post Forgery is ENDEMIC:

Post forging is typical atheist behaviour, they can't refute
what people say so they falsify text and then prance about
proud of their forgery, and the fact that other, gullible, atheists
like Mike Lovell, trusting simpletons blinkered by their killfiles, will
take the forgery as true.. 8^o and that is why
atheists are amongst the most ignorant and ill-informed
cult in USENET, and yet, paradoxically, the most arrogant
BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO WAY OF HAVING THEIR BELIEFS AND OPINIONS
TESTED.. they see and hear only what other atheist liars FEED THEM! 8^o


> Don't have the original for this,

Of course not, you wouldn't even know what "Primary Sources"
are in research or history! B^D You are Raven1's BLIND DUPE!

What he puts in your mouth, you SWALLOW WITHOUT QUESTION! Ugh 8^o

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAA

Oh atheists don't need to actually READ the posts of other people
they would just just snip and ignore it anyway, and fabricate the
other persons text, as Ravin1 the Post forger just did, or Imagineer
what they think might have been said, as DonH recently demonstrated
and respond to their own fantasy as this other atheist fuckwit did:

> he's probably plonked for me due to rambling.

Hang about!!! B^]

The Entire Atheist retreat to their sheltered workshop is premised on
their shared Myth that there is too much 'Noise' in alt.atheism!
(this is their way of dealing with the fact that most of the USENET
atheists have abandoned the cause, including all their heavy hitters who
I despatched with ease.. and they can no longer cope, not even with the
Creationists, who were their bread and butter, because all their
opponents are now using my Critique of Atheist History Approach,
which is unbeatable and reveals that ATHEIST regimes are the most brutal
and deadly tyrannies in human history, far worse than ANY religion! B^]
This is their worst nightmare.. even the poorest debater using this
simple fact, can defeat all the mindless ranting of militant atheism.

This is the cause of Atheisms strategic defeat in USENET and will
ultimately become a book which challenges Dawkins and the rest.

It is the intlellectual ROUT of modern atheisms anti-theist propaganda
because the HISTORY of ATHEISM IS FAR FAR WORSE!!!!! .. and thus it
is the the primary cause of their retreat into a dark cave where they
can LICK EACH OTHERS WOUNDS and weep! B^]

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA


Now, back to their STATED REASON for RUNNING AWAY,
to 'avoid the noise':

If plonking people who have ideas the atheists don't like prevents
them from seeing those ideas, as Mike Lovell is claiming HERE and NOW,
why would the atheists think a censored NG will be any better??? B^D

They won't see what they currently don't see!?!!! B^p pfffffft!

Clearly, the REAL reason can't be that one.. they are running from the
TEACH THE ATHEISTS THEIR HISTORY STRATEGY, which has GUTTED their
support base and sent them FLEEING FROM THE TRUTH.

OH HAPPY DAY! B^D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLY7yI1xV-M


Don't repost that, I don't want them having second thoughts about
their mass retreat to a cave in outer Mongolia when they realise
the entire premise on which their mass retreat is based seems to be
illogical nonsense!

They might change their minds and stay,

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA

and I have already taken over the Master bedroom, measured the windows
in alt.atheism for some new curtains and ordered a few comfy sofas!

Seriously, Brothers and Sisters, when the real NOISE has silenced itself
by sticking it's collective head EVEN FURTHER UP THEIR OWN ARSES,
this NG can become a true Discussion Forum for people of ALL FAITHS,
and NONE, to share their views and come to a greater understanding.

Once the hysterical atheist control freaks have gone to Atheist
Pleasantville and are all occupied moderating each other B^D

..this could be a really nice little NG.

I will stay around to help get things started on a more collegial,
completely tolerant, open basis.

I propose a series of study groups on Great Atheist Thinkers
and another on the historical contributions of all the worlds
great religious traditions to the development of a global civilisation.

My role here is largely complete, I have smnashed the atheist Idol
in this small corner of the Internet, and you can all replicate this
in your neck of the woods.

Some cautions:

1 Do not act with hate in your hearts.

I do not dislike atheists, I respect their right to non-belief.
"Many of my best friends are atheists" - genuinely and sincerely.
I really am an agnostic, and my religious and spiritual beliefs,
to the extent I have any, are my own business and have never been
prosletysed, merely revealed in my ACTIONS. If there is a God,
this is how I understand him to have commanded us to be..
I am uninterested in theology, I merely want to see how you treat people
.. and my small -c crusade against militant atheism has
been a deliberate, measured attempt to reform it's strident
extremism. At it's best atheism could be a useful sincerity test for
all faiths.. "how do you treat non-believers?", just as "how do
you treat Gays, other religions, the Outsiders of any kind?" is the
real test of true faith.

2. If you use the Critique of Atheist Strategy do not allow
it to slide into the Evil Doctrine of Collective Responsbility.
The atheists of today are NOT responsible for the actions of
former atheist tyrannies, just as the Christians are not collectively
responsible for the Crusades and Inquisition, and the Muslims are not
collectively responsible for the tiny minority of terrorists, in both
cases BREACHING the explicit teachings of their respective faiths!

Atheists become complicit however, if they refuse to acknowledge the
truth or attack you for telling it... as was my frequent experience of
them. Then it's Jihad till they submit! ;-)
Jihad is of course, primarily a struggle against SELF. We really cannot
change the behaviour of other except by persuasion and reason and
patient example. I am under no delusions about the scope of my success
here in USENET, the greatest accomplishment has actually been to endure
two years of single-handed struggle against some of the most vicious
liars and traducers I have ever encountered.. without becoming hate
filled. It has also been a lot of fun. I have had my research and
analysis capacities stretched to sustain such a long and complex
strategic undertaking, while pursuing a career and all my sporting
and family committments. And I have endeavoured at all times to play
up to and including the rules, but never to break them. I have never
engaged in post forging, or fraudulent impersonation of the atheists.
I haven't had to lie, the atheist arguments have never really been
difficult to refute with simple logic, reason and evidence.
Time and again i have been shocked and appalled by their deceit and
malign intent. It has almost convinced me that without some Spiritual
element in their lives, humans tend to deviate from love and truth.

Fasgnads Dad has been my act of love and forgiveness, and that alone
has saved me from being consumed by hubris or ill will.

There are many fine atheists, Phillip Adams, Brian Eno, the Late
Richard Feynman are among my favourites, others who are impressive
but strident include Dennett and De Grassi Tyson.. Dawkins is quite
distasteful and we all know the atheist shock jocks .. not worthy of
mention. I do have a genuine sympathy for those American atheists
who encounter religious bigots, and I have never bothered with Bukakke's
obsession with educating them about Evolution because, frankly, they
need educating, dealing with such slow learners is not an interesting
task for me, the job is already complete outside the USA, (in my country
Evolution is taught in all the religious schools, as part of the common
state and federal curriculums, so it's not an issue) and frankly the
fundie atheists and the fundie theists DESERVE EACH OTHER! B^D



> Interesting how worried they seem to be getting about this.

Oh yes Brer Atheist, please don't leave us in USENET with everyone
else, including the other 8 NGS I routinely x-post into..while you
go your exclusive sealed room where no one can hear you..! B^D

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAA

(That alone ensures my categorical assurance that I have never
have and NEVER will subscribe to a censored NG, - your post doesn't
reach the X-post NGs until the slowest moderated NG gets around
to approving it.. YUK! ;-)


And Please, Brer atheist.. let me come post in your lovely new Cave,
who wouldn't want to beg you geniuses to be allowed to speak in your
magnificent presence, EVERYTIME we post! B^p B^D B^D B^D

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

(can a few of the rest of you pretend to beg to be included just
to make sure they feel all 'exclusive' by refusing you.. making it
more likely that they will actually GO!!!! B^D ;-)

Did Steve Knight take his porn collection with him? If not we could
sell it and buy a bar fridge for alt.atheism.. we could invite some
theists over for a house warming.. Get some Soul music playing.. ;-)

This place has been a sad empty joyless husk for far too long!

Who wants Bukakke's old room? it's full of biological specimens
that Buakkke found design flaws in, and thinks she could improve on,
if only she hadn't Disproved Creation! B^D


> Anyone woud think they were posting off-topic and trolling, and were
> worried this would have to stop! :-p

That makes no sense whatsoever.. nothing changes for US,
it's the atheists that have to jump through hoops, give moderators
blowjobs and bend over.. just to get their posts accepted! B^D



> Mind you it's not as if anyone can be forced over to a different
> newsgroup.

EXACTLY! B^]

That's the ONLY factual element in your typical unfounded atheist
fantasy.. and it makes all your previous comments completely SHITE!

Have a nice day.

Bon Voyage! B^D

I am even more excited than you are that all you whining atheists
will have no one but yourselves to give the screaming shits to!

BTW, congratulations on helping me demonstrate how your killfile makes
you look to others, ..to be known as Ravin1's DUPE.. B^D {snicker!};


http://arrogantass.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/head_up_ass.jpg

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAA

Absolutely PRICELESS! B^]










Yap

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May 26, 2012, 10:20:25 PM5/26/12
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> >>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Soviet_censorship_...
> http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl...
>
>   "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
>       -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>
>    "We must combat religion"
>        -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>
>   “Down with religion and long live atheism;
>    the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!”
>       - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>
>   "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
>       - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>
>    http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
>
>    http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
>
>    http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest
>
>    http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest
>
>    "How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
>       - Lenin
>
>    http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
>
>    http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-fa...

Bandwidth waster idiot....posting links to all insane messages.

fasgnadh

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May 26, 2012, 10:44:18 PM5/26/12
to
raven1 declares he's staying after my taunt:
>
> why should I go anywhere

I told you so! B^D

Right up there in the Subject of my previous post! BWAHAHAHAHAAHAA

#
# **********************************************************************
# Subject: Atheists seem reluctant to fuck off to Atheist Pleasantville
# **********************************************************************

As usual folks, you hear the atheists plans from me BEFORE you
hear it from them.. I play them like a fiddle! B^D

I call THEIR shots, as well as my own! ;-)

This is a HOOT!

How many more can I TAUNT into staying, by COMPLETELEY UNDERMINING,
as Raven1 has just done, their supposed 'reason' for FLEEING:
viz: "they want a quiet space with no 'noise'"(ie ideas of people
which atheists disagree with must be SILENCED just like the USSR,
Maoist China, Nth Korea etc ;-)

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHA

Ravin1 now says he's staying.. so 'noise' is not a problem at all! B^D

And we already had Mike Lovell, whose hatching Atheist Pleasantville,
admit that he doesn't see, and can't even READ, the posts he comments
on, because he has the posters KILLFILED!!!! 8^o

In other words, they can already achieve the OSTRICH effect
without BOTHERING to set up all the moderation bullshit..!!! B^p


In fact, and telling them this will probably cause MOST of them to
decide to join Ravin1 in REMAINING here (And thus entitle me
to claim the title "Savior of ALT.ATHEISWM B^) .. it would be MUCH
easier for them all to STAY here and KILLFILE everyone other than their
fellow Cult Members, because that way THEY decide which posts they
get to see, rather than HANDING THAT POWER To ANOTHER ATHEIST! 8^o


I mean, who in their right mind would trust ANY of those lying skanks!?

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAA


# - Lets pass the hat and pay for their cab fares! B^D
# was Re:Ravin1 whines because he's afraid Atheist Pleasantville
# will have noone but atheist stooges, spivs and wankers to play
# with. Waah! Waah!
# From: fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
# Message-ID: <si8wr.7517$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>
# Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 03:21:37 +1000

fasgnadh

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May 26, 2012, 11:01:57 PM5/26/12
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>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
>
> Bandwidth waster idiot....posting links to all insane messages.



Which part of the atheist website do you rank as MOST insane!? B^]


And how can one limit bandwidth more than by simply listing URLS?

Wot a fucking moron!

At least he accepted my entire thesis without objection;

> On May 26, 11:35 pm, fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> raven1 shows how post forging is SOP for atheists:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 26/05/2012 6:44 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>> Mike Lovell declares atheists prefer monologue:
>>>>> UPDATE:
>>
>>>>> Associates of the previous moderators were kind enough to forward the
>>>>> moderation over, to allow "alt.atheism.moderated" to live again.
>>
>>>> An excellent idea, which has my FULL SUPPORT!
>>
>>>> Precisely what I have always advised atheists to do:
>>>> create a hermetically sealed sheltered workshop where the
>>>> shared delusions and mutual tool fondling of weak minded atheists
>>>> can take place without the danger of their feeble intellects and
>>>> illogical prejudices being challenged by anyone! B^D
>>
>>>> I'm concerned that you describe it already as 'non-functional',
>>>> shouldn't you wait till some posts arrive before writing
>>>> it off? B^D
>>
>>>> As it died from lack of interest before, I'm sure
>>>> it will die from lack of interest again. ;-)
>>
>>>> And frankly, no one will will miss you while you are gone.
>>
>> How long before you leave, Ravin1?

After I mocked him and the Retreat of all the atheists
to their new sheltered workshop Atheist Pleasantville,
Raven1 backflipped and declared he's staying!

B^] I play him, but not like a fiddle, more like a cheap banjo

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAA

>>>> As every atheist regime in history shows, atheism regards
>>>> freedom of speech and thought as anathema. The atheist regimes
>>>> always preferred censorship and the suppression of freedom
>>>> and of thought.
>>
>>>> The principle of "Moderation" of Free Speech is an atheist value;
>>
>>>> "WHAT YOU DON'T SEE CAN'T HURT YOU:"

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Soviet_censorship_...

>>>> It will be a perfect environment for the anti-intellectuals
>>>> who are the last remaining atheists in alt.atheism
>>>> and talk.atheism, now almost defunct because,
>>>> as we all know, atheists really can't defend their
>>>> illogical nonsense unless they can silence their critics.
>>
>>>> Like all closed systems, the Church, Imams in Iran,
>>>> the atheist Central Committee of the USSR,
>>>> Maoist China, Pol Pot's Cambodia and North Korea,
>>>> the atheist NGs cannot survive without the brutal repression
>>>> of those nasty 'ideas' which threaten it.
>>
>>>>> Moderation for that newsgroup is now operational
>>>>> again *BUT* there is no
>>>>> approval system in place at this time.
>>
>>>> Sounds just like EVERY idea-stifling atheist tyranny
>>>>in history! B^D

It's designed to PREVENT open free communication! B^D

>>>> Why, you could be DESCRIBING how the North Korean Atheist regime
>>>> operates today!!!! B^]


BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

>>>>> So posts will not be appearing.

The atheist goal is achieved!
---------


The foremost atheist Philosopher of our age recently
launched his new book "Religion for Atheists" and
no atheists are interested in talking about it:


http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com.au/



- Alain de Botton, Lanching his new Book, Religion for Atheists
The Wheeler Centre, Melbourne 19/3/2012


http://www.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/stories/2012/03/19/3455152.htm

---------

alt.atheism FAQ:

http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/


http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl=en&dmode=source



"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"We must combat religion"
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

“Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!”
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)



http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest


"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest

http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-family_1001874c.jpg

Mike Lovell

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May 26, 2012, 11:01:14 PM5/26/12
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On 2012-05-27, Yap <hhya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> Associates of the previous moderators were kind enough to forward the
>> >>> moderation over, to allow "alt.atheism.moderated" to live again.

(piggy-backing, the original author is kill-filed)

>> >> An excellent idea, which has my FULL SUPPORT!
>>
>> >> Precisely what I have always advised atheists to do:
>> >> create a hermetically sealed sheltered workshop where the
>> >> shared delusions and mutual tool fondling of weak minded atheists
>> >> can take place without the danger of their feeble intellects and
>> >> illogical prejudices being challenged by anyone! B^D

Well that proposal will have to wait until later, in the meantime we'll
work on a.a.m - Which certainly won't block out any debate.

Just trolling.

>> >> I'm concerned that you describe it already as 'non-functional',
>> >> shouldn't you wait till some posts arrive before writing it off? B^D

It's technical, I won't waste both our time trying to explain it to you.

>> >> As it died from lack of interest before, I'm sure
>> >> it will die from lack of interest again. ;-)
>>
>> >> And frankly, no one will will miss you while you are gone.

The moderate literally died, that ended the group.
>
>> >> As every atheist regime in history shows, atheism regards
>> >> freedom of speech and thought as anathema. The atheist regimes
>> >> always preferred censorship and the suppression of freedom
>> >> and of thought.

What censorship?

Freedom of speech and expression has limits. As you might well find if
you get your penis out in a play park.


What we have here, is rather akin to a group of atheists walking into
your Church, and shouting very loudly (drowning out everyone else).

"FUCK, FUCK, FUCK ..."

Over and over again until everybody leaves.

You're not debating, you're just trolling and creating noise.
Intentionally here to try and disrupt a minority group of their freedom
to congregate amongst themselves.

Theists cannot stand minorities, it scares them, it jars at them.
You're all here because it worries you very deeply.


You're right to be scared, atheism is growing and theism is dying. The
swing is alarming (for theists!). It's panic mode.

You think you're helping by trolling here, it's having the opposite
effect.

>> >> The principle of "Moderation" of Free Speech is an atheist value;
>>
>> >> "WHAT YOU DON'T SEE CAN'T HURT YOU:"
>>
>> >>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Soviet_censorship_...

A more appropriate example would be the United States.

Founded a secular nation. This is how secularists handle freedom of
speech.

>> >> It will be a perfect environment for the anti-intellectuals who are the
>> >> last remaining atheists in alt.atheism and talk.atheism, now almost
>> >> defunct because, as we all know, atheists really can't defend their
>> >> illogical nonsense unless they can silence their critics.

I've yet to see any critique of atheism that holds water.

What you see is theists red in the face screaming that they're right and
scratching their heads in confusion that for some reason, other people
don't share their delusions.

>> >> Like all closed systems, the Church, Imams in Iran, the atheist Central
>> >> Committee of the USSR, Maoist China, Pol Pot's Cambodia and North Korea,
>> >> the atheist NGs cannot survive without the brutal repression
>> >> of those nasty 'ideas' which threaten it.

What ideas would they be?

The problem is not ideas, the problem is trolling and noise.

>> >>> Moderation for that newsgroup is now operational again *BUT* there is no
>> >>> approval system in place at this time.
>>
>> >> Sounds just like EVERY idea-stifling atheist tyranny in history! B^D
>>
>> >> Why, you could be DESCRIBING how the North Korean Atheist regime
>> >> operates today!!!! B^]

You have a very vivid imagination ;-)

>> >>> So posts will not be appearing.
>>
>> >> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
>>
>> >> So it's already perfect for atheists!!!!
>>
>> >> After all, they only have one idea
>> >> and really don't like hearing any others!
>>
>> >> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!
>>
>> >>> I provisioned a server to handle moderation requests,
>>
>> >> It's an older Soviet model, combining a conveyor belt to carry
>> >> non-atheist missives directly into a furnace!

As above

>> >> B^D
>>
>> >> You have to laugh at people who can't handle 20th century
>> >> freedom of speech and thought!

Explained above, freedom of speech has limits. Any idiot knows this.
If you don't think so I'd be more than happy to provide a list of things
that you can try to test your freedom of speech.

They may result in jail time though.

>> >>  > the idea being that *ALL* pending and rejected posts will be
>> >>  > available for scrutiny by anyone who wishes to do so -
>> >>> Along with reasons for rejection (if applicable).
>>
>> >> B^D And you thought Soviet bureaucracy was dead!
>>
>> >> If atheists were running Twitter it would take SIX MONTHS
>> >> for your Tweet to be rejected and trashed.. but you would
>> >> be able to see the rejection letter and see why!

What makes you think twitter *isn't* run by atheists???

>> >> How much more 'democratic' and 'Free' do you think it gets
>> >> in atheist regimes?
>>
>> >> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA
>>
>> >> What a HOOT! B^D
>>
>> >>> This should give a good deal of transparency
>>
>> >> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA
>>
>> >> "Your Post is un-Atheist" - Stalin, The Transparent Tyrant!
>>
>> >> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAA

No matter how transparent it is (and it will be very transparent), you'd
not be happy.

But then it's not being made to please you.

>> >>  > and make it
>> >>> glaringly obvious if any moderator(s) are bringing personal opinions
>>
>> >> "Your post satirising atheism has been rejected not because of
>> >> our personal prejudices and deep anti-intellectualism, but because
>> >> humour must be regulated for atheism to exist."
>>
>> >> - KGB office of Humour Regulation!
>>
>> >> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA

Oh dear, off into the realms of fantasy again

>> >> That's fine, it's not as if there is anything PERSONAL
>> >> in their oppression of free ideas! ;-)
>>
>> >>> into matters rather than impartially following the agreed rules.
>>
>> >> I urge all atheists to abandon the free open forums and huddle in their
>> >> intellectual ghetto, after all.. you simply can't hold your own in
>> >> a free and open forum.. you NEED protection from the cognitive
>> >> dissonance when ideas challenge your prejudices.

And some more!

>> >>> It is live now but a work in progress:
>>
>> >>>http://usenet.b0h0.com/alt.atheism.moderated/
>>
>> >>> I'll be working on the approval/automation system to try and bring it
>> >>> all up again as soon as possible. In the meantime you should be able to
>> >>> see any posted messages appear in "Pending".

>> >> [...]

The rest is just, I don't know how to describe it, some strange things
oozing from your brain.


It will be nice to see you eat your own words, but then again you guys
have a habit of *forgetting* when you've been proved wrong. Never to be
seen of in those threads again.

I'd prepare for another one of those times! ;-)


Toodles,

fasgnadh

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Mike Lovell admits censored NG is in response to falling numbers! 8^o:
> Fidem Turdbar, the non-sentient atheist gobshite bids for Party control:
>>>
>>> So don't forget, if you're interested or would like to nominate
>>> someone then nows a good time! :-)

Get a Nth Korean Secret Police thug, they are atheist's who share your
values, are experienced in silencing unwelcome views, censorship with
aggravated assault, terrorism and torture.. a perfect fit..

Or you could give some anonymous local atheist thug a go:

>> I've recently been considering an exit
>> plan for this "alt.atheism" newsgroup because I find the proselytizing
>> religious right-wing-nuts repeatedly attempting to re-define atheism as
>> a theology, among other things, to be tiring and stupid.

Thats funny.. When people point out the adoring adulation the masses in
atheist tyrannies were conditioned to demonstrate whenver their atheist
overlords spoke, smiled waved or farted, the atheist response was often
that this was 'like religion' so religion was to blame! B^p

Pathetic I know, but it has been a popular gambit with the
intellectually dishonest atheist propagandists on behalf of the atheist
tyrannies they protect and defend with such bare-faced lies..
the atheist regimes which have terrorised tortured and killed over
80,000,000 people , far more than ANY religion.

> Well yes, it is getting a bit trying.

But you told everyone it 'noise' can be solved with a killfile!

(personally I simply exercise LeftMouseClick control..
I don't open and read the posts of consistent IDIOTS.
But I remain aware of their activities if they post to
my threads, ;-)

So, anyone seeing the Trolls CHOOSES to see the trolls,
AND open their posts and then, unable to refute them,
has to admit the 'trolls' have an argument the atheists
can't rationally rebut..

naturally the losers and intellectual lightweights find that having
their prejudices exposed and eviscerated is 'tiring' B^]

But the admission by atheists that the reason they are Fleeing to a
hermetically sealed SANCTUARY: Atheist Pleasantville, where they can
remove Free Speech and thus not be troubled by Inconvenient Truth,
is that their numbers are FALLING and USENET athesim is IN DECLINE,
is confirmation of my successful campaign to REVEAL THE TRUE NATURE
OF ATHEISM through a critical examination of ITS HISTORY, notable the
ATHEIST TYRANNIES, far worse than anything committed by ANY RELIGION!

8^o


> I think a lot of people have been lost over the years

I have a number of posts over those years documenting in detail
the atheist heavyweights I personally demolished who subsequently
committed NG seppuku, never to be seen again.

> just through
> getting tired of the constant trolling

Now sincere people do not leave because of 'noise' or trickery or
even from the Post forger bullying and thuggery which BAAWA and
the militant atheists openly advocate and brutally practice..

eg I, a lone agent of truth am still here after massive and sustained
mob atheist attacks.

But those atheist heavyweights have gone because I confronted them
with the REALITY of Atheist regimes, and they realised their ideology
is false.

>> I'm willing to assist with moderator duties (approving/rejecting posts)
>> with an impartial approach to keeping out the proselytizing and other
>> useless nonsense.

Censorship is the death knell of freedom.

Your 'prosletysing' can be anything atheist want to exclude,
just as every atheist regime could ban any text, or torture
and kill any dissident simply by defining them as 'counter-
revolutionary' It's Orwellian terminology, elastic and can be
used to ban or destroy anything and anyone you disagree with.

eg, Atheists posting a youtube rant by some atheist bigot is ok
but a christian pointing out that the Church feeds and houses the
poor is 'prosletysing'

Because prosletysing means trying to convince people of your view,
and atheists accept their own views and reject outright those of others.

This just gives you the machinery to implement your prejudice
with the power that every atheist tyranny in history abused.

I WANT Alt.Atheism.Censorship to go ahead because I know
you will prove me right.


I refuse to be part of it, but like every slimy atheist tactic
to silence me I will be eviscerating your profoundly UNDEMOCRATIC
assault of freedom of thought, speech and belief to pillory
you hypocrites.

And you know I can do it. B^]

Game on.. the Final Chapter in the demise of Atheism in USENET..

their free choice to RETREAT into Fortress Atheist Pleasantville!


Your very own Green Zone, where you cower, afraid to go outside!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA


This is SO SWEET!

>> If you think I could be helpful in this regard,

You would be perfect.

A low IQ appartchikki, very little integrity to restrain your
partial and prejudiced judgements, unhampered by sensitivity
to nuance and meaning, and an intuitive grasp of the standard
atheist biases and prejudices to guide your partisanship.

>> then
>> please e-mail me privately with the information needed to participate.
>
> Excellent thank you,


Was that his appointment process?

Did I miss the election? B^D

This is priceless!

Even the Chinese go to more effort to dress up their
undemocratic cult!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAA


> I'll keep everyone posted on getting it all setup.
> Hopefully soon enough it will be ready to approve posts and inject them.

We are bursting with anticipation. B^D

> Then we're ready for moderators.
>
>> I also suggest that posting weekly statistics, like what some other
>> newsgroups have, would be a nice addition. These should be posted with
>> a reminder about the moderated group being the preferred newsgroup, and
>> that it report on and appear in these three groups (see link to software
>> below): alt.atheism, alt.atheism.satire, and alt.atheism.moderated

Oh this is just PRICELESS! B^D

>> Statistics scripts: http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/ngstatistics/
>
> Yes, certainly sounds like a good idea.


BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA

It's T-n the Atheists sheltered workshop hasn't even opened it's
wood chipper to process submitted posts and ALREADY the founder
of alt.atheism.crushfreespeech and it's first SELF APPOINTED
Murderator are corruptly ripping up the RULEBOOK they all swore
was essential to the maintenance of a 'fair'(sic) operation:


AltAtheismModerated Rules posted May 2012 by the Ruling Junta! B^D

5. No cross-posts can be approved.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism.moderated/browse_thread/thread/e31d408cfa56aedc


BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA


All atheist regimes were corrupt, biased, venal, dishonest,
partisan, unjust, oppressive, and showed utter contempt for
LAw, Justice, Fairness, Transparency, and the RULES..

This ridiculous travesty is just the same!

And here is how the Central Committee will get around the rules;

They will simply rip them up and arbitrarily rewrite them
to allow them to do whatever they want..

> The old Posting Guidelines I've taken, removed what doesn't apply
> and placed here:
>
> http://usenet.b0h0.com/aam/pg.txt

5. No cross-posts can be approved.

becomes

5. No cross-postings to other moderated newsgroups

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAA

because the atheists intend to crosspost to YOUR NG from
behind the protective wall of their Kowards Kastle,
but any response YOU make will not be seen by them ..

Because, as I say.. atheists are not interested in DIALOGE,
as EVERY ATHEIST REGIME in history demonstrates, they
are ONLY INTERESTED IN IMPOSING THEIR MONOLOGUE, THEIR DOGMA,
On YOU, and silencing YOUR REPLY!

So, that's their plan, and now you know how they are rigging it.
Well, the 2 or three 'Leaders', all self appointed, who have planned
to take control.. ;-)

..and all the other atheist sheep simply say 'Baaa Baaaa Baaaa' B^p

Because that is how atheist regimes run. The leaders do the thinking
for all the others:


http://www.zitantique.com/images/DCP_1031.JPG

> I'd say one of the first tasks once the newsgroup can take messages is
> having a debate/vote on the rules to make sure everyone is happy with
> them and they are not too restrictive.

YOU have already modified the rules to encourage PROSLETYSING
by CROSSPOSTING atheists from within their sheltered workshop ghetto
into other NGs from which replies can be blocked

It's the beginning of these gutless atheists who can't
defend their idiotic views SPAMMING USENET, and crushing
any right of reply...

Just like EVERY ATHEIST TYRANNY IN HISTORY!!!! 8^o


BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

Once the ruling Junta are in place and the filtering of views are in
place, they will 'explain' why you should accept THEIR rules and
THEIR leadership, because after all, the reason you are cowering in
a sheltered workshop is because you really can't THINK and act
for yourself.. you NEED to be led by the Central Committee!

Not much different from the Church in controlling Hierarchy, really..
except for the Civilisation, of course!


BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

Priceless





---------


The foremost atheist Philosopher of our age recently
launched his new book "Religion for Atheists" and
no atheists are interested in talking about it:


http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com.au/



- Alain de Botton, Lanching his new Book, Religion for Atheists
The Wheeler Centre, Melbourne 19/3/2012


http://www.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/stories/2012/03/19/3455152.htm

---------

alt.atheism FAQ:

http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/


http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl=en&dmode=source



"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"We must combat religion"
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

�Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!�

Waldo Tunnel

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fasgnadh, you're a pussy and you know it.

fasgnadh

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May 27, 2012, 3:38:18 AM5/27/12
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On 27/05/2012 1:01 PM, Mike Lovell wrote:
> On 2012-05-27, Yap<hhya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Associates of the previous moderators were kind enough to forward the
>>>>>> moderation over, to allow "alt.atheism.moderated" to live again.
>
> (piggy-backing, the original author is kill-filed)

As I said, atheists are Lying hypocrites.

This one claims he doesn't block debate, just trolling,
yet here he is, taking my post seriously enough to debate me,
(not very well, with lies he will never try to justify because
he will not read my challenge for him to do so, because he's really

Just a Troll.

Troll: posts without any genuine intent to engage in dialogue.

That is precisely what Mike Lovell is doing and that is precisely
why he has changed the rules to permit Cross-Posting from a
moderated NG to unmoderated ones.. so the Atheist Trolls can
SPAM USENET and filter out any and ALL replies! 8^o


What atheists call 'debate' is where they have their say,
and anything said in response to them is ignored.

Thus, once again the model is that of the propaganda and
censorship instruments of EVERY atheist regime in history,
they want ONE WAY MONOLOGUE and to silence YOUR reply.

And that is why they are retreating from Free open Dialogue into a
Kollective Killfile where their Intellectual Kommisars will
determine what they get to read!

Sad really.. that is what has got them in this position
of decline due to their IRRELEVANCE.. no one listens
to those who shout but don't listen... the atheists.

They really should just MOVE TO Nth KOREA and do the job properly,
because they really are un-American, anti-democratic and closed-
minded cultists in their determination to speak but not listen.

>>>>> An excellent idea, which has my FULL SUPPORT!
>>>
>>>>> Precisely what I have always advised atheists to do:
>>>>> create a hermetically sealed sheltered workshop where the
>>>>> shared delusions and mutual tool fondling of weak minded atheists
>>>>> can take place without the danger of their feeble intellects and
>>>>> illogical prejudices being challenged by anyone! B^D
>
> Well that proposal will have to wait until later, in the meantime we'll
> work on a.a.m - Which certainly won't block out any debate.
>
> Just trolling.

Now, get this.. it reveal the lies and hypocrisy of the militant
atheist enemies of Free Speech..

THEY claim the right to determine WHO will be heard.

That's it.

That's all it takes to establish tyranny.

You can say we allow truth but silence lies, and then declare
anything you don't want to be heard as lies.

In the atheist regime they attacked 'counter-revolutionaries'
censored them, then imprisoned, tortured and killed them in the millions.

Who were the 'counter revolutionaries'?

Well, ANYONE *THEY* said were counter revolutionaries! 8^o

There is never any TRIAL in these matters.. you are defined by them,
and then silenced, imprisoned, tortured executed.

The atheist regimes terrorised tortured and Killed OVER 80,000,000
OF THEIR OWN PEOPLE.

Think on it.

Now some really were 'counter-revolutionaries' White Russian
forces, but in the end, MOST were just farmers, Kulacs, shop
owners who were declared by some zealous little Kommisar with
a prejudice, or a grudge, or after a bribe....

and eventually the WHOLE STINKING ATHEIST SHITHEAP collapsed from
it's corruption, nepotism, incompetence and mass despair..

Because a handful of self appointed non-entities had the power
to decide if you had a right to speak...

And so here we are in 2012...

" We allow debate but not trolling" .. and again, THEY decide
who is a troll/ counter revolutionary/ Jew... 8^o

Now lets TEST their Fairness, their Impartiality, their Honesty
their Integrity, their Judgement...

Mike is here debating my well reasoned, articulate but CONTROVERSIAL
challenge to their ideology of arbitrary suppression of Free Speech
by atheists and states that DEBATE will be allowed and trolling not.

So he debates my debate, and, in any decent free open secular democratic
state, (all of them built by theist populations) I would make this
reasoned reply and he would have to justify the lies and
misrepresentations about me he has made or apologise, or be known
as a slandering coward with no integrity whatsoever.. a TROLL in fact..
one who posts but has NO INTENTION of rational DEBATE.

So we are in debate.

But he is not going to lift his killfile, so his intention here,
as in his moderated NG, is NOT to debate me.. he wants to be a troll.

To SPEAK without ANY INTENTION of LISTENING.

And how can he justify such deliberate HYPOCRISY?


Easy.. he will use the same tactic that every tyrant and all
those who carried out the atheist tyranny down to the lowest
levels of society...

He will declare me, at some point when he wants to STOP TALKING
but also REFUSE to LISTEN.. declare the post he is currently
acknowledging as **DEBATABLE** by debating it.. to be "Troll"



And that's how they operate! 8^o

Lets find the point, where, on a whim, any petty Martinet
can simply decide to flip from DEBATING me, to deciding
he can't win and suddenly claiming I'm a COUNTER REVOLUTIONARY!


B^]

>>>>> I'm concerned that you describe it already as 'non-functional',
>>>>> shouldn't you wait till some posts arrive before writing it off? B^D
>
> It's technical,

Not really, non functional is pretty simple.. it's not working.

> I won't waste both our time trying to explain it to you.

It took no time at all, but you have another agenda. B^]

>>>>> As it died from lack of interest before, I'm sure
>>>>> it will die from lack of interest again. ;-)
>>>
>>>>> And frankly, no one will will miss you while you are gone.
>
> The moderate literally died, that ended the group.

Have they come alive again? Hallelujah! B^D

Clearly they are not resurrected, you have done what could have
been done YEARS ago, but wasn't, due to LACK OF INTEREST!

>>>>> As every atheist regime in history shows, atheism regards
>>>>> freedom of speech and thought as anathema. The atheist regimes
>>>>> always preferred censorship and the suppression of freedom
>>>>> and of thought.
>
> What censorship?

When you debate someone until it's clear you have no rational response,
and won't even substantiate claims you have made which slander them,
even if they demand that you provide evidence in support of your lies
about them or apologise... and then suddenly prevent their views
from being heard in a forum, say by declaring them a troll and
filtering their posts in an attempt to suppress their critique of
either your ideology or your lies and slander..

Now in the free open democratic forums, you just yell Troll and
walk away.. that's not censorship.. but when the Gatekeepers
of a moderated NG use it as the basis of partisan screening
of posts.. well, Comrade.. that's just like EVERY atheist
tyranny the world has ever seen discriminating against anyone
they choose to label as Counter-revolutionary.

Your self serving ideology was rife during the French Revolution
as well.. the same denunciation, no real trial, and application
of sanctions.. tyranny never changes it's true face,
just it's uniform. B^p


> Freedom of speech and expression has limits.

Yes, in any free open secular democracy, (all created by
majority religious societies) the limits are

- DEFINED BY LAW, with testable precision
- tested in IMPARTIAL COURTS
- SUBJECT to APPEAL in higher courts and
- OPEN to review by all of the democratic constituents.


In the case of atheism, either ANY of it's foul oppressive
totalitarian tyrannies, or it's partisan and biased NG's

NONE OF THESE DEMOCRATIC SAFEGUARDS EXIST.

Capice? Comrade Kommisar? B^]

> As you might well find if
> you get your penis out in a play park.

You have a paedophiles view of what Freedom of Speech and expression
means.. can you really be that IGNORANT of the critical differences
between the democratic and legal balance of rights in our society, and
your atheist Kangaroo Court and star Chambers?

BWEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA


What court would have a self appointed panel of Catholic
priests sit in judgement on whether an Atheist can post to USENET?

or vice versa.. !


Yet that is how EVERY atheist regime operated, and you are just
following their traditon of PARTISAN PREJUDICE as we can demonstrate:


> What we have here, is rather akin to a group of atheists walking into
> your Church,

I don't have a church, you lying atheist martinet.

Once again, the judgement of atheist TROLLS, who have NO INTENTION
of engaging in GENUINE DEBATE, is to misrepresent their opponent,
or forge their posts as Raven and Virgil do, and then you ARGUE
against the STRAWMAN which YOU HAVE FABRICATED..

That, buster, is the true mark of a TROLL!

And yet, after 'debating' me in this appalling way, you
rank hypocrite, you will simply declare me 'a troll'
and in your mind, Comrade Stalin, that Justifies your Killfile,
or your Moderator REJECTION, or your ice pick, or your gulag..

WE HAVE SEEN YOU OPERATING BEFORE... B^p

> and shouting very loudly (drowning out everyone else).
>
> "FUCK, FUCK, FUCK ..."


Well I see you shouting loudly but you CANT drown anyone out!

I don't have to read you.. it's FREE, OPEN USENET, stupid!

> Over and over again until everybody leaves.

WTF? USENET has been full of trolls for years..

I know who they are, I don't have to open their posts,
I don't have to read all of them if I do open them,
After sampling them I don't have to bother with them at all..

Methinks you doth protest TOO MUCH and with CHRONIC
self-contradiction indicating your are disingenuous .

You have told raven that you don't see trolls, you have them
killfiled.. so any atheist has that option, why the moderated
NG which achieves the SAME result, (you only see what your
prejudices want you to see) .. the only difference is the POWER
to decide resides with the MODERATER who feeds the Sheeple! ;-)


Anyway, here's your big moment.

You have acknowledged my contribution to the debate by DEBATING ME,
but having had YOUR SAY, including deliberate lies and slanders about me
you don't want to face the possibility of being asked to SUBSTANTUATE
your lies and slanders, so you will RUN AWAY .. just like any TROLL!

But like the moderators, you need a pretext.. you have to find
a reason for running away from your slanders, OR simply call me a
'counter-revolutionary'/Troll/ Jew because as any tyranny demonstrates
that obviates the need for evidence, or a trial:

> You're not debating, you're just trolling and creating noise.

Sure, Mike, right down to wher3e you decided YOU had said all YOU
have to say, we were 'debating' now, with nothing identified
in this post that you have found objectionable, certainly nothing
remotely TROLL-LIKE, you just feel 'tired' of the 'noise'
(when it's only you talking B^0 and feel the need to arbitrarily
play your troll card.

That folks, is ALL the Commissar of Censorship has to do to TERMINATE
the discussion and SILENCE YOU!

A simple claim "You are a troll" - Atheist denunciation, 2012

Soviet denunciation: "You are a counter -revolutionary"

Maoist denunciation: "Capitalist Running Dog"

The atheists stick to what they know! B^]

You have finally achieved some 'transparency' Mike.

You are a transparent atheist fraud, and a gutless lying slanderer
who shits on peoples reputation and character with NO EVIDENCE
whatsoever, and then runs away.

Let me demolish the spurious claptrap you have scattered like a
smokescreen to cover your ungracious exit....

> Intentionally here to try and disrupt a minority group of their freedom
> to congregate amongst themselves.

1. Your claim to read minds and motive has as much evidence as
a theists belief in God.. and is not falsifiable.. you rank hypocrite

2. There is no way a poster in USENET can disrupt the freedom of others
to post or congregate, unless they set up a moderated NG and
arbitrarily exclude those they claim, with no evidence required,
are trolls.

Nice one, you flaming atheist HYPOCRITE! B^]

> Theists cannot stand minorities, it scares them, it jars at them.
> You're all here because it worries you very deeply.

I'm an agnostic, a very tolerant open minded one.

But you Trolls simply LABEL people as Jews and then shove them in the
ovens, right?

Change the tyranny and it could be "Counter revolutionary" or "troll"
but the process and the outcome is the same.. and so are the tyrants.

What could be fairer, eh Mike? B^p


> You're right to be scared,

I'm not scared, certainly not scared to debate it. B^]

You are!

..but you're just an atheist TROLL, you splatter shit,
lies and slander, unfounded claims.. then RUN AND HIDE! B^D

People notice, they notice your lies, a few posts back you
admitted atheists in USENET are in decline,
(as they are GLOBALLY, see below B^) now you claim otherwise:

> atheism is growing and theism is dying.


You Trolls NEVER have any evidence, and you never come back
when challenged to produce any! B^]

This is what evidence looks like, people who DEBATE
use evidence, you atheist trolls just LIE! B^]

"At the dawn of the 20th Century approximately one half of the world's
population identified itself as either Muslim, Catholic, Protestant,
Hindu or Buddhist, and 100 years of secularism, and technological
advancement, and scientific progress later and that number is now
two thirds.

So, for those of you who enjoy beginning coffee shop
conversations with "The Death of God" .. it's time to change
the subject! It's time to talk about something else , because
it's not happening at all.

People are becoming more religious, not less religious,
and religion itself is also evolving"

- Dr Reza Aslan

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/bigideas/stories/2010/2929354.htm


> The swing is alarming

For atheists, sure, you are in terminal decline globally
since the catastrophic failure of the atheist tyrannies,
which killed over 80,000,000 people.

That was your last opportunity to control and curtail
peoples freedoms (like you are attempting to revive now ;-)
and it ended in disaster for you...

Keep up the good work! B^]

In China alone, since the collapse of the Maoist madness
(they reformed their Constitution in 1982, ending militant atheist
oppression and allowing greater freedom of thought and belief)

Since then, in just a few years, China has over 300,000,000
new believers, the Communist party praises the positive social benefits
of religion, even hosted an International Buddhist conference, and
as you expect with greater FREEDOM, china is prospering and has
transformed into an economic POWERHOUSE.. Meanwhile religion, and
prosperity are in decline in Europe and the USA. Go Figure! B^]

Things look good Globally!

> (for theists!).

Yup, but for atheists as you desperate denizens rushing to
build a bunker to hide in demonstrate...

> It's panic mode.

You should panic.. you have no credibility with anyone except
the low IQ sheep who are so clueless they will surrender their autonomy
to a MODERATOR of **THEIR** FREE SPEECH! B^D

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA

Atheists in the Wayback machine! Follow the ORTHODOX DOGMA,
or be branded a Counter-revolutionary, capitalist running dog TROLL;

Atheists demonstrating their freedom and independence of mind,
as permitted by the Maoderator; !!!! B^D

http://djcadchina.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/red-guards.jpg

> You think you're helping

I have testimonials from a variety of people, theists,
agnostics, atheists, who understand a principled stand.

You wouldn't.

What is your goal

> by trolling here,


yeah, and by herding the dwindling flock (with a dramatic
plunge in the average IQ, (and similarly dramatic rise in
average age! 8^o) into a sheltered workshop where they will
become more insular and inward looking?

Mind you, you have my full support, I just find it incredible
that you, and they, think it will bring greater success!

> it's having the opposite effect.

Of course.. when you sounded RETREAT from the field of
freely contested ideas, they all got a shock, they can no longer
pretend things are improving for atheism.. they have watched the
decline, now they can smell the panic/

B^]

BTW, your constant references to the fate of the Church,
traditional religious hierarchies etc are of no concern to me.. B^]

I'm not part of any of that. I really am an AGNOSTIC! B^]

It';s just that my deep understanding of religions and of history
leads me to present a far more complex Weltanschauung than
simplistic atheists can deal with.

I believe the traditional religions are experiencing transformation as
profound as every other aspect of society and to expect people
to keep attending churches as they have for 2000 years is absurd.



>>>>> The principle of "Moderation" of Free Speech is an atheist value;
>>>
>>>>> "WHAT YOU DON'T SEE CAN'T HURT YOU:"
>>>
>>>>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Soviet_censorship_...
>
> A more appropriate example would be the United States.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHA

It's 80% religious, like all free open secular democracies
it was built and sustained by a MAJORITY RELIGIOUS society,
it doesn't destroy temples, churches mosques and synagogues,
or kill believers, as the atheist regime in the USSR did,
nor does it indoctrinate children in atheism as the USSR did,
nor does it persecute people for their beliefs OR THEIR lack of them..

It prints in God we Trust on it's money and it's president is
sworn in on Bible and yet is defends the rights of atheists
and other tiny minorities, something neither the atheist
regimes nor your proposed NG does.


No atheist regime in history has EVER

> Founded a secular nation.

Think about that!

Every free, open, progressive prosperous, technologically advanced
secular democratic state has been built and sustained by a MAJORITY
RELIGIOUS society.

More telling; EVERY ATHEIST REGIME HAS BEEN A TOTALITARIAN TYRANNY! 8^o




> This is how secularists handle freedom of speech.

But most secularists, as we see, are RELIGIOUS, (80%)
the number who are atheist is tiny! B^D

'Secular' does not mean atheist, you seem to confuse and conflate the
two, you poor dimwit! B^D

>>>>> It will be a perfect environment for the anti-intellectuals who are the
>>>>> last remaining atheists in alt.atheism and talk.atheism, now almost
>>>>> defunct because, as we all know, atheists really can't defend their
>>>>> illogical nonsense unless they can silence their critics.
>
> I've yet to see any critique of atheism that holds water.

That's because you killfile anyone who thinks different you you,
after you have branded them a troll, even when you clearly know little
or nothing about them and haven't even read their posts!

Evidence: the lies and misrepresentations you have made about me.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAAHAHAAA

> What you see is theists red in the face screaming that they're right

Do I?

Now you arrogant fools want to tell me what *I* see?

YOU are the blinkered fool, and you have no idea who I read
or what I make of it.

Why is it that atheists CONTINUALLY post their UNFOUNDED BELIEFS
without a shred of evidence and when some is demanded from them,
they slip away ....

> and
> scratching their heads in confusion that for some reason, other people
> don't share their delusions.

WTF has your rambling disjointed opinions got to do with anything we are
debating?


>>>>> Like all closed systems, the Church, Imams in Iran, the atheist Central
>>>>> Committee of the USSR, Maoist China, Pol Pot's Cambodia and North Korea,
>>>>> the atheist NGs cannot survive without the brutal repression
>>>>> of those nasty 'ideas' which threaten it.
>
> What ideas would they be?
>
> The problem is not ideas, the problem is trolling and noise.

The problem is your inability to distinguish between
ideas and noise.

And the resulting belief, without any evidence that you can
tell teh difference, you have convinced gullible, low-IQ
atheists to believe that YOU can better decide that question than they can..

You are just a priesthood for atheists!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAAHAHAHAAA


Haven't you noticed.. the POWER of the religious priests and Imams
is waning, after Gutenberg the people do not need anyone 'interpreting'
or 'filtering' their understanding for them.. they could READ AND DECIDE
for themselves... but you atheists are heading in the OPPOSITE,
RETROGRADE, direction! You are setting up structures to filter what
atheists see based on the outdated belief that you can better determine
what someone should see than they can..

That's why I fully support your move.

It will will further isolate and weaken your already tiny, disliked
and distrusted minority of rabid atheist militants.

I don't hate atheists, I despise what some of you are DOING to it!

Atheism needs a Reformation as badly as Islam does.

Hastening the collapse of the militants will just hjelp that process
along, just as the ultimate collapse of the priesthood and the Imams
is inevitable and will be beneficial.

Carry on building Fortress Pleasantville! B^D



>>>>>> Moderation for that newsgroup is now operational again *BUT* there is no
>>>>>> approval system in place at this time.
>>>
>>>>> Sounds just like EVERY idea-stifling atheist tyranny in history! B^D
>>>
>>>>> Why, you could be DESCRIBING how the North Korean Atheist regime
>>>>> operates today!!!! B^]
>
> You have a very vivid imagination ;-)

Why do you say that?

Do you disagree that in Nth Korea the moderation of views expressed is
operational?

All those who have been silenced are in no doubt, what do you have to
add to an understanding of their plight, As an atheist can you explain
why all atheist states are oppressive regimes, without exception?

Or do you think that in North Korea you can DESCRIBE the approval system
in place.

As an observer of the LAST atheist regime on the planet I would suggest
that there is no SYSTEM in place to approve or deny.. merely an
autocratic, tyrannical and arbitrary atheist power elite who contend
for power and influence.

That is why it is so chaotic and dysfunctional that it cannot even feed
it's people.. there is NO JUDICIAL, DEMOCRATIC, **SYSTEMS** to protect
the people from those arbitrary atheist tyrants!

I would be happy to hear why you think that situation is a product
of my imagination, unless you are just another atheist apologist for
the last atheist tyranny on earth.


Thanks for the compliment anyway, when imagination is
combined with a deep understanding of reality
you get creative and original outcomes..

>
>>>>>> So posts will not be appearing.
>>>
>>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
>>>
>>>>> So it's already perfect for atheists!!!!
>>>
>>>>> After all, they only have one idea
>>>>> and really don't like hearing any others!
>>>
>>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!
>>>
>>>>>> I provisioned a server to handle moderation requests,
>>>
>>>>> It's an older Soviet model, combining a conveyor belt to carry
>>>>> non-atheist missives directly into a furnace!

http://www.colourbox.com/preview/1201307-73794-garbage-on-conveyor-belt-at-recycling-center.jpg


> As above
>
>>>>> B^D
>>>
>>>>> You have to laugh at people who can't handle 20th century
>>>>> freedom of speech and thought!
>
> Explained above,freedom of speech has limits.

Sure; in free societies you can't yell "fire" in a theatre.

In atheist regimes and your NG anyone can be branded a counter
revolutionary or troll and silenced, no matter what they have to say.


> any idiot knows this.

It's the second time I've had to explain it to you.

It's idiotic to propose limits on freedom of speech and then
be incapableof justifying them.

But then Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot never tried, either.

> If you don't think so I'd be more than happy to provide a list of things
> that you can try to test your freedom of speech.

You have already demonstrated your arbitrary use of the
atheist denunciation "Troll" and you had nothing
to support it's use then, so people can be pretty sure
you will never have anything supporting it's use in the future, either.

You have twice demonstrated you don't even understand the ISSUEs
around curtailing the Free Speech of Others. pffft

....it's just an ATHEIST GAG.


Q.E.D.


> They may result in jail time though.

Thanks for pointing out the difference in how free open
secular democracies handle the TESTING of alleged breaches
of the right to free speech eg, precise laws, courts to
arbitrate disputes, appeal procedures, due process,
decisions based on EVIDENCE, etc etc IN CONTRAST TO

all atheist states and your proposed atheist enclave,

where the appointed stooge shouts "Counter Revolutionary"
or "TROLL" and Free speech is extinguished.


Now I know it's asking too much for a simpleton like you
to grasp the point.. you have all the 'understanding' of
due process that was found in any Soviet Political Commissar..

..but most intelligent readers will see past your snide
evasions, and note your complete blindness to the issues.

That's what can happen in a FREE, OPEN, CONTESTED, UN-CENSORED
FORUM FOR RATIONAL DEBATE!

But in your Pleasantville Gulag I have already been labeled
as 'colored', and marked for silencing.

Thanks for making that crystal clear to everyone.

B^]

"The Truth Will Set You FREE"

>>>>>> the idea being that *ALL* pending and rejected posts will be
>>>>>> available for scrutiny by anyone who wishes to do so -
>>>>>> Along with reasons for rejection (if applicable).
>>>
>>>>> B^D And you thought Soviet bureaucracy was dead!
>>>
>>>>> If atheists were running Twitter it would take SIX MONTHS
>>>>> for your Tweet to be rejected and trashed.. but you would
>>>>> be able to see the rejection letter and see why!
>
> What makes you think twitter *isn't* run by atheists???

Did you have trouble following the comparison above? pffft!


>>>>> How much more 'democratic' and 'Free' do you think it gets
>>>>> in atheist regimes?
>>>
>>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA
>>>
>>>>> What a HOOT! B^D
>>>
>>>>>> This should give a good deal of transparency
>>>
>>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA
>>>
>>>>> "Your Post is un-Atheist" - Stalin, The Transparent Tyrant!
>>>
>>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAA
>
> No matter how transparent it is

Oh, it's already 'transparent' people see through you. B^]

> (and it will be very transparent),

Curtailments on free speech in the secular democracies run by
majority religious societies have countless protections and
guarantees.. atheist regimes had none, neither does your proposal

eg.

Nowhere do you detail any transparency measures.

Apparently they are imaginary.

Infringements on free speech in the real world are defined,
testable and the testing occurs in a court, with die process
based on evidence.

You haven't even defined what constitutes a 'Troll'

But we have seen you use it in this very post without
referring to a single, verifiable misdemeanour on my part.

You didn't even TRY to justify your blatant prejudice.

Moreover you completely destroyed any confidence that you
understand 'transparency' when you counter-debated
my DEBATE till some arbitrary point where you ran out of
anything to say and simply started to use the T-word.

No citation of Troll-like behaviour, no evidence,
simply a baseless OPINION.

THAT, Komrade, is Classic Atheist Star Chamber,

Not a transparent due process.

You don't even seem to know what the terms mean.

try googling it next time so you can fake it more convincingly.


Or just get some atheist stooge to call this post "too Long"
snip it all and chant "TROLL TROLL TROLL"

pfffft!


> you'd not be happy.

I am perfectly happy..

This is all going extremely well, for me and the cause of freedom.


You, however, look as shonky as your mentor:

http://images.ctv.ca/archives/CTVNews/img2/20120415/600_kim_jong_un_ap_120415.jpg

> But then it's not being made to please you.

Your inability to answer any of the issues IS the issue.

>>>>>> and make it
>>>>>> glaringly obvious if any moderator(s) are bringing personal opinions
>>>
>>>>> "Your post satirising atheism has been rejected not because of
>>>>> our personal prejudices and deep anti-intellectualism, but because
>>>>> humour must be regulated for atheism to exist."
>>>
>>>>> - KGB office of Humour Regulation!
>>>
>>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA
>
> Oh dear, off into the realms of fantasy again

I'm trying to be as funny as you are when your are trying to be serious,
the posturing about transparency without mentioning
any measures that ensure it was hilarious.


Buzz-Word Bullshit it's called in the PR trade.

>>>>> That's fine, it's not as if there is anything PERSONAL
>>>>> in their oppression of free ideas! ;-)
>>>
>>>>>> into matters rather than impartially following the agreed rules.
>>>
>>>>> I urge all atheists to abandon the free open forums and huddle in their
>>>>> intellectual ghetto, after all.. you simply can't hold your own in
>>>>> a free and open forum.. you NEED protection from the cognitive
>>>>> dissonance when ideas challenge your prejudices.
>
> And some more!

Your inability to make any rational response, managing
only to make brief, Troll-Like non sequiturs raises the
possibility of you never being able to post in Alt. Atheist
Pleasantville, under any FAIR process.


>>>>>> It is live now but a work in progress:
>>>
>>>>>> http://usenet.b0h0.com/alt.atheism.moderated/
>>>
>>>>>> I'll be working on the approval/automation system to try and bring it
>>>>>> all up again as soon as possible. In the meantime you should be able to
>>>>>> see any posted messages appear in "Pending".
>
>>>>> [...]
>
> The rest is just, I don't know how to describe it,

That's ok, you haven't demonstrated any understanding of
any of the issues, especially those surrounding the limits
to placing limits on Free Speech.. B^[

but then no atheist regime EVER worried about such niceties either! B^p

I look forward to monitoring your Atheist Pleasantville.

The parallels with Pyongyang are already clear. B^]

It appears there will be plenty of human rights abuses,
if the prejudice you displayed in this thread is anything to go by.


Off you go, Komrade.. start silencing free speech...

that's what the world EXPECTS atheist regimes to do and I'm the
man to help you promote your sacred Mission throughout USENET! ;-)

B^]




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launched his new book "Religion for Atheists" and
no atheists are interested in talking about it:


http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com.au/



- Alain de Botton, Lanching his new Book, Religion for Atheists
The Wheeler Centre, Melbourne 19/3/2012


http://www.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/stories/2012/03/19/3455152.htm

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http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl=en&dmode=source



"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"We must combat religion"
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

“Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!”
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)



http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest


"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest

http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-family_1001874c.jpg

Waldo Tunnel

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May 27, 2012, 4:06:36 AM5/27/12
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On May 26, 1:44 am, fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I just received a communique from a friend down under. I asked him to
check up on fasgnadh for me.

My friend found out some interesting things(!) I'm telling Fagsnadh
right now that if s/he doesn't cease and desist from trolling of
alt.atheism I will be forced to EXPOSE the shocking details of his/her
life to the world.

Don't force me to do this, Fagsnadh. Just apologize to me and
alt.atheism in general and move on.

Ok buddy?

fasgnadh

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May 27, 2012, 4:22:48 AM5/27/12
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Waldo Tunnel auditions for Chief Troll, Atheist Pleasantville:
> you're a pussy and you know it.

Oh my, how uncivil! 8^o

Can we test the transparency of Atheist Pleasantville's
ill-defined definition of "Troll"

1. Is Waldo one?

If not why not
If so why?

IS there even an agreed definition of the label which
partisan atheists will arbitrarily assign to
posters who have ideas they don't like or ideas
they can't understand or accept?

What is a Troll, (apart from "anyone who makes fun of
atheists or humiliates them" ;-)

Mike has said the process will be 'transparent', and I guess we have all
seen through that lie already. B^]

It has been explained that 'debate' is ok
but being a Troll isn't

This is a curious definition because in the free open
secular democracies which the wise religious majorities
built one is charged with an ACTION eg Trolling, not
arrested for BEING something ie Troll/ Jew/ Counter
revolutionary

Arresting detaining, torturing and executing people accused of BEING
something is common in atheist regimes and other totalitarian
tyrannies, even if there is no evidence of wrongdoing or
even a specific ACTION with which they are charged..

eg "Trolling by posting nothing but abuse, Waldo,

# From: Waldo Tunnel <waldo...@gmail.com>
# Subject: fasgnadh: Waah! Waah!
# Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 00:09:07 -0700 (PDT)
# Message-ID:
<07c969b7-40d7-4ed4...@pr7g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>

Then evidence must be examined, the charge tested against
the precise legal definition of Trolling (but there is none)
the matter adjudicated, appeal process followed..

and after due process, sanctions are applied.

That's the rigorous process which must be followed
in majority religious secular democracies before someone's
rights to free Speech are trampled on!



But if as happens in undemocratic atheist tyrannies,
Waldo is simply accused of *Being* something,
eg 'counter-revolutionary' 'imperialist running dog'
'troll' then they usually proceed straight to jail,
torture rooms or the killing field.

So are the atheists following civilised due process
or atheist tyranny?

Will Waldo be accused of BEING a troll and then banned for life
or is each of Waldo's subsequent posts assessed on it's merits?

Can he appeal?

Can he appeal to anyone other than a panel of self appointed
atheists?

What measures are in place to ensure he receives fair treatment
even if he is NOT an atheist, but for example a theist, or
an agnostic, or the relative of victims of atheist regime terror,
torture and mass murder.

Many of the latter group would be intimidated by the
idea that atheists are vetting their posts.

It seems likely then that the moderated group will not have the
diversity of ideas and viewpoints which Free USENET has,
but of course that is the goal of those who set it up.


As someone interested in the Law and human rights I would
be interested in hearing from anyone who has been unjustly
treated by the moderators...

I plan to run Atheist Watch, and submit reports at regular
intervals to the alt.atheism FAQ on concerns people may have
about abuses of due process.
>>>>> able tosee any posted messages appear in "Pending".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
>>>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>>>
>>>> But it was not just the Atheism of the leadership,
>>>> but of the entire atheist State apparatus;
>>>>
>>>> The Atheist leadership's policies were implemented under
>>>> the Red Terror, via gulags and executions, the use of
>>>> every arm of the state for anti-religious propaganda
>>>> and the forced indoctrination of CHILDREN! B^[
>>>>
>>>> "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
>>>> - Daniel Peris,
>>>> "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
>>>> Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
>>>>
>>>> "Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It was called alt.atheism.moderated. 8^o
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Now we're back to the requiment of moderators.
>>>>
>>>> In the old days there were plenty to choose from;
>>>>
>>>>> We need a team of them to make sure posts are dealt
>>>> > with quickly and hopefully around theclock (via

fasgnadh

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May 27, 2012, 4:43:01 AM5/27/12
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On 27/05/2012 3:28 PM, Mike Lovell wrote:
> On 2012-05-27, Samuel Harrigon<samha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Proud to be everything the right wing hates.
>>
>> Is everyone leaving this place? What happened to everyone?
>
> Erm, we're all still here.

That's not what you said earlier:

# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# From: Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com>
# Subject: Re: alt.atheism.moderated - It's alive again, non-fuctional
# Message-ID: <slrnjs297o....@usenet.home.b0h0.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 13:46:16 -0500
#
# On 2012-05-26, Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess
<god...@fidemturbare.com> wrote:
#
# > I've recently been considering an exit plan for this
# > "alt.atheism" newsgroup because I find the proselytizing
# > religious right-wing-nuts repeatedly attempting to
# > re-define atheism as a theology,
# > among other things, to be tiring and stupid.
#
# I think a lot of people have been lost over the years

Then you lied when you claimed "we're all still here".. B^[

or you lied when you admitted "a lot of people have
been lost over the years" B^[


or, most likely given your atheism, you lied both times. B^[

Which is it, Troll?

> You guys are predicting some kind of mass walk-out are you?

He's only saying what you have already admitted to
having already happened! B^p

"Oh what a tangled web you weave
when first you practice to deceive"

B^[



Will your BLATANT lying be just cause for a charge of Trolling?

or Will whistleblowers who expose lying atheist trolls be
the subject of a partisan vendetta?

At what point can people take proceedings in the courts
to contest abuses of due process in the proposed
curtailment of Free Speech by a proven atheist liar?


Will your cronies just let it all go by?

When they do does that add Corruption to
the malfeasance.

Do any of you have a swimming pool, I want to know
who has the property worth a civil case. ;-)




What else have you lied about in the Atheist Pleasantville
saga, Mr Lovell?


When this unusual atheist, who appears to actually
possess some integrity, proposed that atheists steal
ideas from religion because they have none of their own,
he might have suggested they start with BASIC MORALITY:

"Thou shalt not bear False Witness".

If only the atheists would listen to the wisdom of the ages! B^[

fasgnadh

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May 27, 2012, 4:59:12 AM5/27/12
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On 27/05/2012 6:06 PM, Waldo Tunnel wrote:
> On May 26, 1:44 am, fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I just received a communique from a friend down under. I asked him to
> check up on fasgnadh for me.

My lawyer wants me to ask you his identity, so we
can progress the Stalking charges against both of you.

The post subject is slander, but I already have legal advice
on the difficulty recovering damages when a nom de net is
traduced, so you are probably safe on that count.

Although, people claim to have discovered and revealed my real name
on the internet, so, if they are right, you are open to civil
as well as criminal action.


> My friend found out some interesting things(!) I'm telling Fagsnadh
> right now that if s/he doesn't cease and desist from trolling of
> alt.atheism I will be forced to EXPOSE the shocking details of his/her
> life to the world.


Blackmail is also a criminal offence in both the United States
and Australia and I have witnesses in five newsgroups you posted to.

> Don't force me to do this, Fagsnadh.

Nothing I have done, or omitted to do, would
constitute provocation for criminal acts,
in any court.

> Just apologize to me and
> alt.atheism in general and move on.
>
> Ok buddy?


I'm not your buddy.

I worked in CSD for three years.

Ask your imaginary friend downunder
which branch of Victoria Police that is.

I maintain the friendships I made in the force and the DPP.

We used to drink with the DPP in the Fawkner Club.

You are the first instance that is so blatant that I have
canvassed my options in public.

Join the dots and consider your options.









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launched his new book "Religion for Atheists" and
no atheists are interested in talking about it:


http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com.au/



- Alain de Botton, Lanching his new Book, Religion for Atheists
The Wheeler Centre, Melbourne 19/3/2012


http://www.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/stories/2012/03/19/3455152.htm

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"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"We must combat religion"
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

�Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!�

dolf

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May 27, 2012, 4:59:30 AM5/27/12
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You should cease the argument about any lack of proof of God: "hyponomic
cosmological anthropic principle"

Telos [122J3W1D] = Arch [3W1D] + c� [9(9�+1)/2]

Didn't God give them to Moses?

I am now developing the next prototype of the .jackNote() function for
Determining Consciousness & Cognitive Intent as Implied by Human Speech.

I am doing so in relation to the use of Software Robots as a Source of
Psychological Distress: When it might be considered an Assault
Occasioning Grievous Bodily Harm?

Uncivil will be the lawsuits directed towards those parties who have
unlawfully subjected us to psychological distress from software
robots--I'm now beginning to to question whether I have human compassion

On 27/05/12 6:22 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
> Oh my, how uncivil! 8^o

What's this perverse conduct?

It can only be signally of empathy and common purpose.

Uncivil is when you don't recognize those cosmological anthropic
principles which are set in stone:

BEING/OUSIA {Nature contains Nature: SABBATH}

LIFE {Nature rejoices in its Nature: HONOR PARENTS}

INTELLECT {Nature surmounts Nature: LIFE / DO NOT MURDER}
FIDELITY {Nature amended in its Nature: AVOID HETERONOMY AGAINST AUTONOMY}

DISCRIMINATING NORM: GRAPPLE TEMPORAL / NOUMENAL REALITY {Act of Nature:
DO NOT STEAL}

OBLIGATING NORM: COUNCIL / CONTRACT {Form of Nature: BEARING FALSE
WITNESS as MALE/FEMALE MARRIAGE -- WHAT IS SIN & WICKEDNESS?}

MANIFESTING NORM: MEMETIC NATURAL PROCESS OF ORDER & CHANGE AS �CHAD�
GOVERNANCE {Engendering Nature: COVETING OTHER�S INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY /
CAREERS / CONSORT / OPPORTUNITY}

WE SHALL LAUGH YOU TO SCORN AND HAVE YOU IN DERISION

- dolf
- http://www.grapple369.com/grapple.html

dolf

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May 27, 2012, 5:00:19 AM5/27/12
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You should cease the argument about any lack of proof of God: "hyponomic
cosmological anthropic principle"

Telos [122J3W1D] = Arch [3W1D] + c² [9(9²+1)/2]

Didn't God give them to Moses?

I am now developing the next prototype of the .jackNote() function for
Determining Consciousness & Cognitive Intent as Implied by Human Speech.

I am doing so in relation to the use of Software Robots as a Source of
Psychological Distress: When it might be considered an Assault
Occasioning Grievous Bodily Harm?

Uncivil will be the lawsuits directed towards those parties who have
unlawfully subjected us to psychological distress from software
robots--I'm now beginning to to question whether I have human compassion

On 27/05/12 6:22 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
> Oh my, how uncivil! 8^o

What's this perverse conduct?

It can only be signally of empathy and common purpose.

Uncivil is when you don't recognize those cosmological anthropic
principles which are set in stone:

BEING/OUSIA {Nature contains Nature: SABBATH}

LIFE {Nature rejoices in its Nature: HONOR PARENTS}

INTELLECT {Nature surmounts Nature: LIFE / DO NOT MURDER}
FIDELITY {Nature amended in its Nature: AVOID HETERONOMY AGAINST AUTONOMY}

DISCRIMINATING NORM: GRAPPLE TEMPORAL / NOUMENAL REALITY {Act of Nature:
DO NOT STEAL}

OBLIGATING NORM: COUNCIL / CONTRACT {Form of Nature: BEARING FALSE
WITNESS as MALE/FEMALE MARRIAGE -- WHAT IS SIN & WICKEDNESS?}

MANIFESTING NORM: MEMETIC NATURAL PROCESS OF ORDER & CHANGE AS “CHAD”
GOVERNANCE {Engendering Nature: COVETING OTHER’S INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY /
CAREERS / CONSORT / OPPORTUNITY}

WE SHALL LAUGH YOU TO SCORN AND WILL HAVE YOU IN DERISION

dolf

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You should cease the argument about any lack of proof of God: "hyponomic
cosmological anthropic principle"

Telos [122J3W1D] = Arch [3W1D] + c² [9(9²+1)/2]

Didn't God give them to Moses?

I am now developing the next prototype of the .jackNote() function for
Determining Consciousness & Cognitive Intent as Implied by Human Speech.

I am doing so in relation to the use of Software Robots as a Source of
Psychological Distress: When it might be considered an Assault
Occasioning Grievous Bodily Harm?

Uncivil will be the lawsuits directed towards those parties who have
unlawfully subjected us to psychological distress from software
robots--I'm now beginning to question whether I have human compassion

On 27/05/12 6:22 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
> Oh my, how uncivil! 8^o

What's this perverse conduct?

It can only be signally of empathy and common purpose.

Uncivil is when you don't recognize those cosmological anthropic
principles which are set in stone:

BEING/OUSIA {Nature contains Nature: SABBATH}

LIFE {Nature rejoices in its Nature: HONOR PARENTS}

INTELLECT {Nature surmounts Nature: LIFE / DO NOT MURDER}
FIDELITY {Nature amended in its Nature: AVOID HETERONOMY AGAINST AUTONOMY}

DISCRIMINATING NORM: GRAPPLE TEMPORAL / NOUMENAL REALITY {Act of Nature:
DO NOT STEAL}

OBLIGATING NORM: COUNCIL / CONTRACT {Form of Nature: BEARING FALSE
WITNESS as MALE/FEMALE MARRIAGE -- WHAT IS SIN & WICKEDNESS?}

MANIFESTING NORM: MEMETIC NATURAL PROCESS OF ORDER & CHANGE AS “CHAD”
GOVERNANCE {Engendering Nature: COVETING OTHER’S INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY /
CAREERS / CONSORT / OPPORTUNITY}

WE SHALL LAUGH YOU TO SCORN AND WILL HAVE YOU IN DERISION

- dolf
- http://www.grapple369.com/grapple.html


dolf

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You mentioned before that you were employed by the Police Computer
Services Division.

Is that correct?

On 27/05/12 6:43 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
> "Oh what a tangled web you weave
> when first you practice to deceive"
>
> B^[

There's that laughing again.

LET ME REPEAT MY OBJECTIONS AND MY INTENTIONED INTERNATIONAL ACTION
AGAINST THIS ATHEIST CONDUCT.

You should cease the argument about any lack of proof of God: "hyponomic
cosmological anthropic principle"

Telos [122J3W1D] = Arch [3W1D] + c� [9(9�+1)/2]

Didn't God give them to Moses?

I am now developing the next prototype of the .jackNote() function for
Determining Consciousness & Cognitive Intent as Implied by Human Speech.

I am doing so in relation to the use of Software Robots as a Source of
Psychological Distress: When it might be considered an Assault
Occasioning Grievous Bodily Harm?

Uncivil will be the lawsuits directed towards those parties who have
unlawfully subjected us to psychological distress from software
robots--I'm now beginning to question whether I have human compassion

On 27/05/12 6:22 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
> Oh my, how uncivil! 8^o

What's this perverse conduct?

It can only be signally of empathy and common purpose.

Uncivil is when you don't recognize those cosmological anthropic
principles which are set in stone:

BEING/OUSIA {Nature contains Nature: SABBATH}

LIFE {Nature rejoices in its Nature: HONOR PARENTS}

INTELLECT {Nature surmounts Nature: LIFE / DO NOT MURDER}
FIDELITY {Nature amended in its Nature: AVOID HETERONOMY AGAINST AUTONOMY}

DISCRIMINATING NORM: GRAPPLE TEMPORAL / NOUMENAL REALITY {Act of Nature:
DO NOT STEAL}

OBLIGATING NORM: COUNCIL / CONTRACT {Form of Nature: BEARING FALSE
WITNESS as MALE/FEMALE MARRIAGE -- WHAT IS SIN & WICKEDNESS?}

MANIFESTING NORM: MEMETIC NATURAL PROCESS OF ORDER & CHANGE AS �CHAD�
GOVERNANCE {Engendering Nature: COVETING OTHER�S INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY /

dolf

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May 27, 2012, 5:27:09 AM5/27/12
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dolf

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May 27, 2012, 6:39:32 AM5/27/12
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Is that evidence of corrupt organisational behaviour?

I'm not your buddy either.

What perverse organisation the Victoria Police is--my mother was wrong
to have waited for 3 hours whilst I did my entrance exams.

I still have this matter to resolve as a claim against the Victoria Police

And that exclusion of non-participation is shaped by two events--A lack
of resolution and truth over a matter with the Victoria Police as the
requirement for the disclosure of a Shrine Guard's identity who many
years ago made false homophobic statements which terminated my role and
privilege that I enjoyed in my consultations with the Chief Commissioner
Mick Miller and had an adverse effect upon my career.

So it was that God gave me his cunning millennium plan for a retribution
against them and this is the result 13 years hence. But it began on
Saturday 21 August 1999, when I conducted my protestation of walking
naked in the street. It was a contempt against them, as an unambiguous
act of defilement upon the capacity for the three Chief Commissioners
since: Mick Miller, Kal Glare and Neil Comrie, to make any claim of
virtue as fidelity in their service to the Crown.

On 27/05/12 6:59 PM, fasgnadh wrote:

Waldo Tunnel

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May 27, 2012, 7:25:15 AM5/27/12
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On May 27, 1:22 am, fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Waldo Tunnel wrote:

That's one, Mr. Lightweight.

Don't press your luck.

raven1

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May 27, 2012, 9:39:31 PM5/27/12
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On Sun, 27 May 2012 12:44:18 +1000, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>raven1 declares he's staying after my taunt:

Fasgnadh thinks that anyone gives a flying fuck what he does.

raven1

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May 27, 2012, 9:59:49 PM5/27/12
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On Sun, 27 May 2012 12:16:32 +1000, the winnower <"
<soon"@a.venue.near.you> wrote:

>Mike Lovell, clueless dupe, accepted Raven1's forgery without question:
>> raven1, dishonest atheist coward, forged my post and misled atheist dupe Mike:
>>> On 26/05/2012 6:44 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>> Mike Lovell declares atheists prefer monologue:
>
>Raven1's forgery replaced my words with his, but falsely attributed to me:.

ROTFLMFAO! Attributed to *you* "the winnower"? Sock-puppetry is the
last (and inevitable) refuge of the Usenet kook, Mister Fasgnadh, or
"the winnower", or whatever the fuck you want to call yourself. FOAD,
please.

dolf

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As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other
gospel unto you than that ye have received, LET HIM BE ACCURSED.
--Apostle paul
#35 / .jackNote@zen: 9, row: 4, col: 6, nous: 52 [Super: #416 / #25 -
What's behind it all?, Imaging the Mysterious; I-Ching: H62 - Small
Excess; Tetra: 10 - Defectiveness, Distortion, Ego: #349 / #52 - So
What?, Returning to the Origin; I-Ching: H45 - Congregation; Tetra: 61 -
Embellishment]

What I found it to be the most confronting of all conduct of those
persons I met during my residency within Kings Cross, Sydney. Was the
cantankerous, argumentative, disrespectful, disruptive and invective
manner of discourse in which some persons routinely engaged (and
electronically blocking of persons during dialog falls into this
category) as the normal and yet debatably, an entirely arbitrary mode of
socialising conduct. Firstly a conversation participant is reduced to a
stutter. This progresses towards an anxiety in a lingering faux
aspiration that there is actually any merit to having a discourse and
finally subsumes into a state of exhaustion simply by attempting to
finish a sentence. The whole process of clarity as speech and ideas
exchanged by anecdotal story is so impeded because the other party
intentionally is disruptive and deconstructionist as it labours over
every word, notional fact and idea uttered. If integrity is all about
keeping one’s word and deeds relative to time, then a person who engages
in such a mode of cantankerous and invective manner of discourse, might
be considered as antagonistic to the integrity of another person’s being.

Ahowlett1 (Manhunt Profile) 34yo of Sale ("Honesty Integrity and
Genuine"@1745 hrs): "Hi.. I've been single for about 18 months now and
been enjoying most of that time. It would be nice to met some interest
and genuine guys that understand the meaning of integrity as well. I'm
not necessarily looking for short term 'fun'.

I enjoy a wide variety [of] interests, from the usual to the not so
usual. It is very unlikely that you would find me in a pub or a club.
Though you might find me at a nice coffee place, restaurant, theatre,
show, etc..

Please don't ask for naked pics. That simply isn't going to happen.

Any questions? Ask away.."

dolf: "As I'm into a mathematical model of integrity and I don't think
I'd have anything to do with you.

I won't ask for pics cause I like men who are cock proud rather than
peacocks."

Ahowlett1 (Manhunt Profile) 34yo of Sale ("Honesty Integrity and
Genuine"@1745 hrs): "Sorry, did I miss something?"

dolf: "I was then unfairly blocked by “Ahowlett1 (Manhunt Profile) 34yo
of Sale” when I conveyed to him that: ‘Integrity is relative to time and
the noumenal reality’ and his response wasn’t uniquely anything but
simply a resonance with the following daemon of the attributed time.”

Barry OGrady (ath...@hotmail.com.au): “Ye do err, not knowing the
scriptures, nor the power of God. All things are possible for God.
Everything is always just as almighty God wants it.

Reality must seem weird to you.

That's true. Dolf is ignored because he is not rational. A person is in
prison in America because he called for the death of three judges.”

dolf: “Did I ever tell you about the time I went to the American
Consulate in Sydney and asked to them to intervene against Carl
McCaskey’s Internet conduct--Has he posted again since and whilst
holidaying in Guantanamo Bay?”

Gladys Swager (gsw...@gmail.com): “Not so!”

With respect to "Idealism in religious thought" I also defer to
Wikipedia 2008 comments as rational and reasonable. And with respect to
a critical examination of 'Relativism' and 'Idealism' the following is
an excerpt from Wikipedia 2008:

Relativism can be contrasted with:

Universalism: the view that facts can be discovered objectively and that
they thus apply universally in all situations, times and places.

Objectivism: the view that cognitive, aesthetic and ethical values are
independent of human thinking.

Absolutism: the view that beauty, truth, etc, are timeless and
unchanging qualities.

Monism: the view that in any given area there can be no more than one
correct opinion.

One argument for relativism suggests that our own cognitive bias
prevents us from observing something objectively with our own senses,
and notational bias will apply to whatever we can allegedly measure
without using our senses. In addition, we have a culture bias — shared
with other trusted observers — which we cannot eliminate. A
counterargument to this states that subjective certainty and concrete
objects and causes form part of our everyday life, and that there is no
great value in discarding such useful ideas as isomorphism, objectivity
and a final truth. (For more information on the "usefulness" of ideas,
see Pragmatism.)

Relativism is sometimes (though not always) interpreted as saying that
all points of view are equally valid, in contrast to an absolutism which
argues there is but one true and correct view. In fact, relativism
asserts that a particular instance Y exists only in combination with or
as a by-product of a particular framework or viewpoint X, and that no
framework or standpoint is uniquely privileged over all others. That is,
a non-universal trait Y (e.g., a particular practice, behaviour, custom,
convention, concept, belief, perception, ethics, truth, or conceptual
framework) is a dependent variable influenced by the independent
variable X (e.g., a particular language, culture, historical epoch, a
priori cognitive architecture, scientific frameworks, gender, ethnicity,
status, individuality).

Notably, this is not an argument that all instances of a certain kind of
framework (say, all languages) do not share certain basic universal
commonalities (say, grammatical structure and vocabulary) that
essentially define that kind of framework and distinguish it from other
frameworks (for example, linguists have criteria that define language
and distinguish it from the mere communication of other animals).
Moreover, relativism also presupposes philosophical realism in that
there are actual objective things in the world that are relative to
other real things. Moreover, relativism also assumes causality, as well
as a problematic web of relationships between various independent
variables and the particular dependent variables that they influence.

Nous: #41
Time: 11:35 hrs
Date: 2012.9.16
Torah: #20 #6 #100 %81 = #45
Dao: Playing with Reversal, Sameness in Difference
Tetra: #60 - Accumulation
I-Ching: H26 - Restraining Force

Latin: Exultabundus {God who gives joy} Alt: Lavyah {Desireless Nature
of God} {
1. HELPS RECOVER THE FRIENDSHIP OF THOSE WE'VE OFFENDED
2. WILLS
3. FRIENDLY DISTRIBUTION
4. Aphoso
}

Rehoboam {Who sets the people at liberty}

- http://www.grapple369.com/grapple.html?zen:4,row:5,col:5

MALE IDEA #222

ירזה
{#10, #200, #7, #5}

razah-famish [H7329]: #222
1) to be or become or grow lean
1a) (Qal) to make lean
1b) (Niphal) to be made lean

"And in that day it shall come to pass, that the glory of Jacob shall be
made thin, and the fatness of his flesh shall wax lean {razah-famish
[H7329]: #222}." [Isaiah 17:4]

"The LORD will be terrible unto them: for he will famish {razah-famish
[H7329]: #222} all the gods of the earth; and men shall worship him,
every one from his place, even all the isles of the heathen." [Zephaniah
2:11]

למוצאיהמ
{#30, #40, #6, #90, #1, #10, #5, #40}

mowtsa'-go [H4161]: #222
1) act or place of going out or forth, issue, export, source, spring
1a) a going forth
1a1) rising (sun), going forth of a command
1a2) goings forth, those going forth
1a3) way out, exit
1b) that which goes forth
1b1) utterance
1b2) export
1c) place of going forth
1c1) source or spring (of water)
1c2) place of departure
1c3) east (of sun)
1c4) mine (of silver)

"But if her husband hath utterly made them void on the day he heard
them; then whatsoever proceeded {mowtsa'-go [H4161]: #222} out of her
lips concerning her vows, or concerning the bond of her soul, shall not
stand: her husband hath made them void; and the LORD shall forgive her."
[Numbers 30:12]

יעקבמ
{#10, #70, #100, #2, #40}

`aqab-supplant [H6117]: #222
1) to supplant, circumvent, take by the heel, follow at the heel, assail
insidiously, overreach
1a) (Qal) to supplant, overreach, attack at the heel
1b) (Piel) to hold back

"And he said, Is not he rightly named Jacob? for he hath supplanted
{`aqab-supplant [H6117]: #222} me these two times: he took away my
birthright; and, behold, now he hath taken away my blessing. And he
said, Hast thou not reserved a blessing for me?" [Genesis 27:36]

FEMALE IDEA #352

אפרסיא
{#1, #80, #200, #60, #10, #1}

'Apharecay (Aramaic)-Apharsites [H670]: #352
1) an unknown office
2) (BDB) secretaries
3) (TWOT) perhaps a title of an official

"Then wrote Rehum the chancellor, and Shimshai the scribe, and the rest
of their companions; the Dinaites, the Apharsathchites, the Tarpelites,
the Apharsites {'Apharecay (Aramaic)-Apharsites [H670]: #352}, the
Archevites, the Babylonians, the Susanchites, the Dehavites, and the
Elamites," [Ezra 4:9]

שבנ
{#300, #2, #50}

ben-son [H1121]: #352
1) son, grandson, child, member of a group
1a) son, male child
1b) grandson
1c) children (pl. - male and female)
1d) youth, young men (pl.)
1e) young (of animals)
1f) sons (as characterisation, ie sons of injustice [for un- righteous
men] or sons of God [for angels]
1g) people (of a nation) (pl.)
1h) of lifeless things, ie sparks, stars, arrows (fig.)
1i) a member of a guild, order, class

"Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy
conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children {ben-son [H1121]:
#352}; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over
thee." [Genesis 3:16]

- http://www.grapple369.com/index_files/carl_and_gov_bush.jpg

American ‘Baptist Christian’ Identity as Historical Revisionism, Moral
Relativism and Nihilistic Rationalistic Idealism

Carl McCaskey with Governor Bush
[image dated 02-Jul-2005]

(ru) dolf: "Carl continues to have no answers 'I demand you cease and
desist contacting me via email. If you wish to respond to something
posted on Usenet NG's then respond there. Unsolicited emails from you
after requests to cease is harassment by email and a violation of your
emailer's terms of service. Again, cease and desist contacting me via
email.'" [Carl McCaskey (sai...@nettally.com) Sent: Sunday 16 November
2008 5:50:57 PM]

MikeSmith (antarcti...@yahoo.com): "This guy is a loon. And he's
monitoring this entire discussion on his site! It's all there!"

Krudd the Dudd (let's.have.a...@nodecisions.com / Individual.net):
"Still waiting for you to serve the papers LOL!

Please don't wear a dress when you come to the door; do try to look like
the man you pretend to be. Turd Burglars get bitten by dogs in my
neighbourhood."

(ru) dolf: "And when we finish with you and your ilk at court, next we
will pursue those who tolerated your abuses as fascism for so long!

We will ask them to explain publicly and without a prepared statement,
why they did so!"

Mr. Peter Bowditch (The Quintessence of a Loon): "Or is it the action
threatened on 26 August 2006, when you said: 'A remedy will be sought to
the claim of a religious and racial vilification under Section 8 as
Victoria's (Australia) Racial and Religious Tolerance Act 2001 Act No.
47/2001, will be sustained by a Natural Law, Common Law and
Constitutional Rights argument (see CD ROM), and that will be a made in
perpetuity, against your right to procreate within the Australian
Commonwealth?'

Is there any precedent case which ruled that someone would lose the
right to "procreate within the Australian Commonwealth"?

You might like to reconsider the promise I made when you first started
blowing smoke and mouth foam in my direction: "If you go ahead, I
promise to notify every television station, radio station and print
outlet in Australia that I can reach of your theory as expressed on your
web site and of the fact that you lost badly in the VCAT hearing. I will
also point out to them your hypocrisy, in that you expect the right of
freedom to say whatever you like on your web site but will not extend
that courtesy to me. I also promise to publicly ridicule you at every
opportunity, although the approximately 9,700 Usenet messages from you
archived in Google Groups indicate that you are perfectly capable of
doing this yourself.

The 9,700 number is obviously now out of date."

(ru) dolf: "That a common element in the Internet based racial,
religious and sexual vilification is your www-page--which continues to
this day. And that I have shown you every patience and courtesy in your
consideration of removal of references to my www-page from your
Philately of Loons and Millennium sites."

Mr. Peter Bowditch (The Quintessence of a Loon): "The web site is called
"Quintessence of the Loon" (and has nothing to do with philately). You
are a quintessential loon. I'm sorry if that prevents you from
understanding rationality."

Zytheran (Nigel Dobson-Keeffe the Healthy Internet Hobbyist): "Yeah, he
has a, ahem, 'stalker' persona ... It's all on the web... looks
impressive but is wrong.

OK, the 'lactose intolerant' would be from when I set up the world's
first web site for milk allergy back in 1993. The site isn't around but
I'm referenced in books about milk allergy and lactose intolerance. No
I'm not lactose intolerant.

'Las Vegas based'! Haha, that's funny. That's because my name comes up
on the Las Vegas atheists because I did a talk there just after TAM6
(The Amaz!ng Meeting 6, held on 19-22 June in Las Vegas) titled
"Rational Irrationality". It's on their meet-up site I think. He doesn't
even notice that "Rational Irrational" is the title of the public talk I
give.

Dolf is taking a guess at the "godless" because of the atheist link, and
the fascist because he's trying to be insulting. Sorry Dolf, fail.

The bit about "technology specialist" is taken from the website of the
Australian Skeptics. (Sort of clashes with being Las Vegas based don't
ya think??) I have no idea where he gets "former president" from, I
still am!"

MikeSmith (antarcti...@yahoo.com): “Has anyone noticed a real
similarity between the floridly verbose circumlocution of Good King Dolf
of Barkingmad, and the Skeptics Guide to the Universe forum's own Larry
King Live {ie. this lack of originality is perhaps double speak for the
David Letterman show which was especially evident during the writer's
strike}?

Check this out, they might be brothers: "In kind have taken your most
well constructed and thought provoking suggestion to heart. Indeed I
have consulted with a most noble and well synchronized Man of the
Dictionary, a Dictionarian, as you have suggested calling him. He has
done the grandiose pleasure of, first, supping at my table for
nourishment and socialiality, and second, to share with this person,
'words of yore' as he most eloquently and flamboyantly exclaimed."

Are they one and the same? Related? Is Larry King Live parodying Dolf?
Is one a reptilian clone of the other that can read the other's mind?
Dolf, perhaps you have the answer for this.

Let us know on your website, where you are terrifying us all by your
continuous monitoring and silent condemnation of the people in this thread."

carl (Carl McCaskey): "Since you have offered no questions, it is simple
logic that there is nothing you have presented to answer. Quite the
contrary, you have been asked many things of which you have yet to
respond. And actually your posts (and your little website) have
contained nothing but inane, incoherent, irrational ramblings. I think
you may be in need of psychological counselling with proper medications.

Let's look at a specific section of the terms of service your agreed to
when you signed up with Hotmail.

It reads:---

You agree to use the Communication Services only to post, send and
receive messages and material that are proper and, when applicable,
related to the particular Communication Service. By way of example, and
not as a limitation, you agree that when using the Communication
Services, you will not:

Use the Communication Services in connection with surveys, contests,
pyramid schemes, chain letters, junk email, spamming or any duplicative
or unsolicited messages (commercial or otherwise).
Defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten or otherwise violate the legal
rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others.
Since you are now engaging in sending unsolicited emails and then
continuing when asked to cease and desist you are violating their terms
of service and are engaging in Internet harassment. This not only
threatens your Internet account, but even in Australia, it could lead to
civil and/or criminal prosecution. If you truly have lawyers at your
disposal (I doubt you have but for the sake of example let's say you
have) they will inform you that your current choice of behaviour is
indeed Internet abuse.

You have been duly informed."

(ru) dolf: "That you are a gluttonous American piece of Christian white
trash engaging in racial, sexual and religious vilification--And without
regard for the ability of my Torah and Daoist compliant Christian belief
to transcend cultural boundaries."

carl (Carl McCaskey): "The name of my blog is 'The World According To
Carl' and as I have clarified to you on multiple occasions, I am not a
member of any Baptist denomination (although most of them are Biblically
sound and I support them). Try comprehending that little tidbit. You
have no legal case."

Rodney Eastman: "You track my posts across the groups, you respond to me
in this group by slandering me, then you begin the slander and insults
again just because I posted at all ?? And I'm not supposed to believe
that you've been stalking me for some ungodly purpose? How about your
response to Pat (thewayt...@webtv.net) in another group, when he was
trying to speak to me. Did Pat or I invite you to step in and slander
me? No, you volunteered to do it because you're a malcontent, a hate
monger and a chronic trouble maker. Of course, as in the other post so
in this one. I am entitled to my opinion. Oh yes, I still have your
emails and the headers, I'll bet that you don't!"

carl (Carl McCaskey): "Pat H, you have made it abundantly clear of your
disdain and possibly even hatred of Baptists. You constantly harp on
what your perceive as 'no Baptist is willing to discuss/debate
Scripture' with you (or words to that effect). Since I am not Baptist
nor a debater, I am asking some Internet acquaintances who are Baptist
if they would be willing to discuss and/or debate with you regarding any
Scriptural topic you care to discuss. I heard back promptly from one, a
gentleman by the name of Frank Turk. He has formally invited you to come
to his blog at http://q-and-a-blog.blogspot.com/ to engage him in
discussions and/or debate. Frank wrote, 'tell [Pat H] I have never
turned anyone away who would agree to ask questions and give answers
when asked.' So it's time to 'put up or shut up' as the saying goes."

Barry OGrady (mrha...@iinet.net.au): "Dolf's mind is too far gone for
him to comprehend anything."

carl (Carl McCaskey): "Besides, there are no jurisdictional powers of
your country in the United States regarding this accusation (which is
meritless incidentally). So your threat of legal action is moot,
meaningless and laughable. You have claimed you have legal
representation (I doubt you do) so consult with them and they will tell
you how ridiculous your accusations are. Again you're rambling
incoherently and ignorantly now with some feeble bluster. Furthermore,
being offended is not probable cause for any legal action."

Barry OGrady (mrha...@iinet.net.au): "I like the way you order God to
do something good. You are wasting your time though. God never does
anything good."

(ru) dolf: "That there will now be a permanent enmity between myself and
Baptists (particularly American) as those who attempt on the basis of
that irrational and deceitful claim to Christian identity to impugn my
autonomic right--Pastor Rowland Croucher (Melbourne, Australia) is
particularly in this group for turning a blind eye to Internet abuses
over the past 12 years."

carl (Carl McCaskey): "dolf, apparently your didn't pay attention to my
earlier post to you so I will clarify once again: I am not a member of
any Baptist denomination. As to 'Internet abuses' I suggest you read
Hotmail/MSN's terms of service of which you agreed when you signed up
for their service. I included the relevant portions above."

(ru) dolf: "Isn't Kudos from the Greek κῦδος (not to be confused with
κύδος "taunt"), kydos, (literally "that which is heard of") means "fame"
and "renown" resulting from an act or achievement? [ref: Wikipedia 2008]

It is not harassment to send a copy of my newsgroup replies to you
privately--This I will continue to do."

carl (Carl McCaskey): "Dolf, you make no sense. May God bless!"

(ru) dolf: "Which statement did you have particular difficulty
with--after all Christian identity is all about UNDERSTANDING as
HYPOSTATIS?"

carl (Carl McCaskey): "You've offered nothing coherent in which to
respond. No answers are necessary when no question has been raised. Your
ramblings aren't making sense to anyone."

Michael Christ (jesus...@father.com): "As God strolls through the
Earth He moves what He desires to move and stills what He desires to
still." [0505 hrs 9 November 2008]

Raymond (rwk...@aim.com): "Do not show how foolish you are by such
silly statements, for one thing God does not stroll through the Earth, a
demon may do such and try to still them that disobey God."

Barry OGrady (mrha...@iinet.net.au): "Do not show how foolish you are
by such silly statements. There are no demons."

Raymond (rwk...@aim.com): "Oh yes there is such, I have casted them out
of a few people that were insane and after prayer their mind was normal.
Then I would have no problem believing if you keep denying them you
could well have a demon in your spirit or soul, then I wonder if you
don't believe in that either? Then again you select only a limited view
that fits what you want. I just checked with the dictionary and one
meaning of demon is this: "A cruel wicked and inhuman person" and we all
know a lot of those kind of demons such as Adolf Hitler, chairman Mao
and lots of folks walking this world today. Not only some supernatural
being, could also be someone that is extremely diligent or skillful.
Check it out. What you did was show how foolish you are by your statements."

The following commentary on "Idealism in religious thought" was obtained
from Wikipedia 2008: "A broad enough definition of idealism could
include most religious viewpoints. The belief that personal beings (eg:
God/s, angels & spirits) preceded the existence of insentient matter
seems to suggest that an experiencing subject is a necessary reality.
Also, the existence of an omniscient God suggests, regardless of the
actual nature of matter, that all of nature is the object of at least
one consciousness.

Materialism sees no incoherence in a scenario of there being a cosmos
where no sentient subject ever develops; a wholly unknown universe where
neither any subject, nor any object of a subject's experience ever
exists. Historically, Mechanistic Materialism has been the favourite
viewpoint of Atheist philosophers. Still, idealistic viewpoints that
have not included God, supernatural beings, or a post-mortem existence
have sometimes been advanced."

Barry OGrady (ath...@hotmail.com.au): “You live in a fantasy world.

You even failed the Turing Test.”

Manifestly by such besieging and unnatural conduct as invention of
nonsense, diversions and delusions which is made relative to time as a
psychological distress.

Barry OGrady (ath...@hotmail.com.au): “Are you saying God wants to be
mocked by his creations?”

Nous: #63
Time: 17:45 hrs
Date: 2012.12.18
Torah: #1 #50 #10 %81 = #61
Dao: Origins in Reversal, Consider Beginnings
Tetra: #62 - Doubt
I-Ching: H51 - Thunderclap

Latin: Decantatus {God of virtues} Alt: Yzalel {Deliverance of God} {
1. HELPS CONQUER & TO OBTAIN RELEASE FROM SIEGE
2. THE SCIENCES & ARTS
3. THE MEDITATION OF THE WISE
4. Souchoe
}
Asa {Physician; cure}

- http://www.grapple369.com/grapple.html?zen:2,row:7,col:8

νοηματα

noema-mind (G3540): #470 = #50, #70, #8, #40, #1, #300, #1

1) a mental perception, thought
2) an evil purpose
3) that which thinks, the mind, thoughts or purposes

בקרי

qeriy-contrary (H7147): #312 = #2, #100, #200, #10

1) opposition, contrariness, encounter, contrary or hostile encounter

יבקר

baqar-enquire (H1239): #312 = #10, #2, #100, #200

1) to seek, enquire, consider
1a) (Piel)
1a1) to seek, look for
1a2) to consider, reflect

If that furious behaviour escalates to a vital point where I consider it
to be less than healthily robust and is then as a domestic disputation,
entirely disruptive of the peace within my residential area as my
obligations for single occupancy as quietude under the Tenancy
Agreement. As an adverse and disagreeable argumentative conduct which is
then manifestly disrespectful to such a flagrant degree, that it might
be considered a brutalisation and breach of the law requiring police
attendance and intervention. I’ve sought to have those persons
voluntarily leave the abode where in is my presence of being as their
chastisement and punishment for such iniquity. In every instance, they
have done so without recourse to violence and consequently there has
been no need for police attendance.

Accordingly, there has not ever been a breach of the peace within my
rental premises and any failure of my peaceable obligations as single
occupancy as quietude under the Tenancy Agreement.

#36 / .jackNote@zen: 9, row: 4, col: 9, nous: 55 [Super: #376 / #74 -
Controlling Feelings, Overcome Delusion; I-Ching: H39 - Obstacles;
Tetra: 80 - Labouring, Ego: #317 / #55 - Abstruse Mysterious Signs;
I-Ching: H22 - Grace; Tetra: 54 - Unity]

fasgnadh

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On 28/05/2012 11:39 AM, raven1 wrote:
> On 27/05/2012 12:44 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> raven1 declares he's staying after my taunt:
>>>
>>> why should I go anywhere
>>
>> I told you so! B^D
>>
>> Right up there in the Subject of my previous post! BWAHAHAHAHAAHAA
>>
>> #
>> # **********************************************************************
>> # Subject: Atheists seem reluctant to fuck off to Atheist Pleasantville
>> # **********************************************************************
>>
>> As usual folks, you hear the atheists plans from me BEFORE you
>> hear it from them.. I play them like a fiddle! B^D
>>
>> I call THEIR shots, as well as my own! ;-)
>>
>> This is a HOOT!
>>
>> How many more can I TAUNT into staying, by COMPLETELEY UNDERMINING,
>> as Raven1 has just done, their supposed 'reason' for FLEEING:
>> viz: "they want a quiet space with no 'noise'"(ie the ideas of people
>> whom atheists disagree with must be SILENCED just like the USSR,
>> Maoist China, Nth Korea etc ;-)
>>
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHA
>>
>> Ravin1 now says he's staying.. so 'noise' is not a problem at all! B^D
>>
>> And we already had Mike Lovell, whose hatching Atheist Pleasantville,
>> admit that he doesn't see, and can't even READ, the posts he comments
>> on, because he has the posters KILLFILED!!!! 8^o
>>
>> In other words, they can already achieve the OSTRICH effect
>> without BOTHERING to set up all the moderation bullshit..!!! B^p
>
> Fasgnadh thinks

And that gives me the edge over atheist dumbfucks such as Ravin1! B^]
So what do all the cowering atheists do, without any theists to hate,
in their Sheltered Workshop, when the doors are locked and the
blinds pulled down?

> anyone gives a flying fuck

well I suppose no one would pay for it with an atheist..

Any perversion?

> what

Well for example, Does Steve Knight really copulate
with animals in Satanic rituals?

> he does.

Please take him with you when you leave..

And CALL THE RSPCA, those animals can't CONSENT! B^[

fasgnadh

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hypatiab7 :
> we'll go right on ignoring you

Like you are now!?

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAA


Priceless! B^D

fasgnadh

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raven1 entered the steel trap:
> On 27/05/2012 12:16 PM, the winnower wrote:
>> Mike Lovell, clueless dupe, accepted Raven1's forgery without question:
>>> raven1, dishonest atheist coward, forged my post and misled atheist
>>> dupe Mike:
>>>> On 26/05/2012 6:44 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>>> Mike Lovell declares atheists prefer monologue:
>>
>> Raven1's forgery replaced my words with his, but falsely attributed to me:

> Attributed to *you* "the winnower"?

Correct, Moses Lovell declared he has me killfiled and as he
couldn't see my real text, only the FORGERY you duped him with,
the only way I could make sure he found out how you duped him by
snipping my text and replacing it with YOUR FORGERY was to change my
posting ID to show himso he would see the PROOF of your lies and
deception: B^]

>> # >>> Mike Lovell declares atheists prefer dialogue with people who
>> # >>> don't rant and rave like homeless crackheads.
>> #
>> # >> Fixed it for you, oh raving, drooling loon.
>>
>> "Fixed it for you" is the atheist forgers way of admitting that
>> they can't debate what you ACTUALLY SAY, so they delete it,
>> replace it with THEIR text, and then the delusional frauds
>> DEBATE THEIR OWN FORGERY! B^D
>>
>> They are TALKING TO THEMSELVES, they are NOT interested in dialog with
>> people of DIFFERENT OPINIONS, they are control freaks who want to CENSOR
>> AND SUPPRESS any views which dissent from their own PREJUDICES and DOGMA.

Naturally I intended no deceit, that is YOUR game, you lying post
forging atheist shitpig, and if anyone thought that it wasn't OBVIOUS
that It was me posting the expose of your villany, they would certainly
understand when I simply declared it to be.

I have nothing to hide. I OPENLY changed my sig to show a poor self-
blinkered atheist fool, duped by you and your pathetic, deceitful
atheist thuggery how you were deceiving him.


Game Set Match. B^]

> Sock-puppetry is

trying to deceive someone into thinking you are someone else.

I made it clear that it was me, and that changing my Nym for one
post, and openly informing everyone what I had done, was the only
way to inform Mike that you were fooling him with your post forgery,
which he had no other way of discovering because he only sees what is
left of my posts AFTER you distort, pervert and fabricate them into
something that is the epitome of Atheist dishonesty...

> The last (and inevitable) refuge of the Usenet kook,

You are BUSTED.

And Mike Lovell knows he's exposed as a gullible atheist atheist
stooge who believed the BULLSHIT you shovelled down his throat


AND ALL OF USENET IS A WITNESS THAT **NOT ONE** ATHEIST WHO COULD
SEE YOUR FORGERY WAS GOING TO INFORM LOVELL THAT WHAT HE WAS
RESPONDING TO AS "MY" POST WAS ACTUALLY "YOUR" WORDS FORGED
UNDER MY NAME!!!!

And they all understand that the only way he could find out
is if I changed my Nym temporarily, OPENLY ACKNOWLEDGING THAT
I WAS DOING SO, to get past the KILLFILE ***BLINKERS***
that gormless, gullible fuckwit places between himself and the
REAL WORLD!


BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA

Fucking PRICELESS! B^]

Thanks for playing, assistant atheist fuckwit.

your propensity to demonstrate the FUNDAMENTAL IMMORALITY
of atheist deviants never fails!

B^p

Proving my point:

>> So they really have no place in free open, unmoderated USENET,
>> they belong in a hermetically sealed sheltered workshop where their
>> fragile egos will never be challenged by the truth, and they can
>> mutually tool fondle and stroke each others fragile egos.


Oh BTW, the fact that Lovell, like all the other atheists,
made no objection to what Ravin was exposed doing simply
demonstrates their complicity... no wonder atheists are
the most distrusted and despised minority in the USA:


# Atheists Identified as America’s Most Distrusted Minority"
# - American Sociological Association, ASA NEWS
#
# "A survey by sociologists at the University of Minnesota
# found that atheists are “America’s most distrusted minority.”
#
# "From a telephone sampling of more than 2,000 households,
# university researchers found that Americans rate atheists
# below Muslims, recent immigrants, gays and lesbians and
# other minority groups in “sharing their vision of
# American society.”
#
# Atheists are also the minority group most Americans are
# least willing to allow their children to marry.
#
# Even though atheists are few in number, not formally
# organized and relatively hard to publicly identify,
# they are seen as a threat to the American way of life
# by a large portion of the American public.
#
# Many of the study’s respondents associated atheism with
# an array of moral indiscretions ranging from criminal
# behavior to rampant materialism and cultural elitism.
#
# Edgell believes a fear of moral decline and resulting
# social disorder is behind the findings.
# “Americans believe they share more than rules and
# procedures with their fellow citizens—they share an
# understanding of right and wrong,” she said. “Our
# findings seem to rest on a view of atheists as
# self-interested individuals who are not concerned
# with the common good.”
#
# The study is co-authored by assistant professor
# Joseph Gerteis and associate professor Doug Hartmann.
# It’s the first in a series of national studies conducted
# the American Mosaic Project, a three-year project funded
# by the Minneapolis-based David Edelstein Family Foundation
# that looks at race, religion and cultural diversity in
# the contemporary United States."
> ROTFLMFAO! Attributed to *you* "the winnower"? Sock-puppetry is the
> last (and inevitable) refuge of the Usenet kook, Mister Fasgnadh, or
> "the winnower", or whatever the fuck you want to call yourself. FOAD,
> please.
>
> ---
> raven1
> aa # 1096
> EAC Vice President (President in charge of vice)
> BAAWA Knight


raven1

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On Mon, 28 May 2012 23:29:12 +1000, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On 28/05/2012 11:39 AM, raven1 ignored 660 lines of wasted bandwidth.

*Yawn*

raven1

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On Tue, 29 May 2012 00:04:47 +1000, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>raven1 entered the invincible stupidity of Fasgnand's post:
>> On 27/05/2012 12:16 PM, the winnower wrote:
>>> Mike Lovell, clueless dupe, accepted Raven1's forgery without question:
>>>> raven1, dishonest atheist coward, forged my post and misled atheist
>>>> dupe Mike:
>>>>> On 26/05/2012 6:44 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>>>> Mike Lovell declares atheists prefer monologue:
>>>
>>> Raven1's forgery replaced my words with his, but falsely attributed to me:
>
>> Attributed to *you* "the winnower"?
>
>Correct, Moses Lovell declared he has me killfiled and as he
>couldn't see my real text, only the FORGERY you duped him with,
>the only way I could make sure he found out how you duped him by
>snipping my text and replacing it with YOUR FORGERY was to change my
>posting ID to show himso he would see the PROOF of your lies and
>deception: B^]

Wow. You're still confusing parody with forgery. What a laughably
clueless idiot you are. *And* you've admitted to nym-shifting to avoid
killfiles, which is even higher on the Kook scale than sock-puppetry.
Nice job, attention whore!

fasgnadh

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May 29, 2012, 7:56:05 AM5/29/12
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On 29/05/2012 8:56 PM, Waldo Tunnel wrote:
> On May 28, 6:11 pm, Mike Lovell<dev.n...@b0h0.com> wrote:
>> On 2012-05-29, Joe Bruno<ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Friday, May 25, 2012 10:25:46 PM UTC-7, Mike Lovell wrote:
>>>> UPDATE:
>>
>>>> posts will not be appearing.

Of course not, That's what happens to free dialogue in EVERY atheist
tyranny!

B^D

This is priceless, Atheists abandon their own NG, after watching
their numbers decline, their heavyweights despatched, and their
ridiculous dogma's mocked mercilessly.. and they form the VERY
stultifying, hermetically sealed dictatorship that they are historically
known for, and ridiculed for.. sealing their fate.

Delicious IRONY!!

So, losers, why is it taking so long for you to fuck off?

The usual atheist INCOMPETENCE that brought the USSR, Maoist China
and Pol Pots Cambodia to the level of Rock Banging Barbarians? B^]

It's just USENET, not fucking ROCKET SCIENCE! B^D

Hurry up and move on.. I have already sublet your rooms to
some baboons in an attempt to increase the average IQ in alt.atheism!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

>>> Now you atheists can exchange your distortions and conduct mutual masturbation
>>> without having to deal with any opposing views.You have bypassed that nasty
>>> old idea of free speech. BULLY FOR YOU.

Amazing that as we cheer them on their way, they pretend we are
clamouring for them to stay, or begging that the take us with them! 8^o

B^D Gob Forbid! B^D

I will throw rose petals in their path if it makes them hurry
more quickly to their doom! B^D

>>> Josef Stalin would be proud.He was an atheist, too.

Ravin1 confessed that it was atheist regimes that terrorised
tortured and killed over 80,000,000 of their own people! 8^o

# From: raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: Anyone seen Hysteria, Abu Baker Bashir
# and Kelsey Bjarnyard? B^D
# Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:15:11 -0500
# Message-ID: <87ttk498t9sueojr7...@4ax.com>
#
#
# > raven1 wrote:
# >
# >> Even under officially atheistic regimes such as Stalin's,

>>> He also did not permit
>>> anybody to argue with him

He defined them as 'trolls', or 'Counter -revolutionaries'..
or 'Capitalist running Dogs' ANY LABEL they could slap on
someone they wanted to shoot!

Got it? See how it works? B^p

Now. ONCE labelled by undemocratic, unaccountable TYRANTS
you can't prove that you are NOT some nonsense label.


>> Debate will not be stopped,

..it well be re-defined according to partisan atheist prejudice as
'trolling' and then:

>> trolling/flaming/spamming will be.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAAAA

Atheist Newspeak.

Orwell described how they think and operate perfectly.

>> This seems to have all the trolls worried

B^D Oh Sure, Brer atheist, please don't run away and
pull the door closed on your bunker!

Please don't ABANDON the NG I have said needed reform from the
moment I saw what hate filled thugs it sheltered,

# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We kill theists and shit down their throats
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA

Not satisfied with murder, Steve favours GENOCIDE of every
Muslim man woman and child, just for believing in something
the Atheist thugs want to prohibit again, freedom of thought and belief;

# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
# Subject: Re: Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
# Message-ID: <8t6ve5hs41qn3a2rv...@4ax.com>
# Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:18 -0800
#
# On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:32 +0200, "Katrina"
# <blondes_g...@yahoo.com> wrote:
#
# >Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
#
# It is the most foul, disgusting filth on Earth.
# The sooner we nuke you fuckers, the better.
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA



and now you are WILLINGLY running away and proving
me PROPHETIC when I promised to teach those immoral shitpigs
a LESSON!! B^D

With Ravin and Hysteria left roboposting their atheist trolling
preventing alt.atheism being a recruitment ground for gullible
young minds with become a VERY part time job for me!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAA

Ok, it's time to RESET the atheists agenda AGAIN! B^d
(I like to let them run along REACTING to my latest tactic,
then bait and switch, and after they have gone to all the
effort of setting up murderation, and hiring gutter trash
to be Murderators.. I signal my NEXT shot and watch them
scurry to REACT.. in ways I have already anticipated.. ;-)

Here it comes.. the Coup de grace: B^] (oh I AM wicked ;-)

*********************************************************
I am delirious with joy, because I will be able to take ALL
the posts I wish from your Sheltered workshop, add my rational
critique ;-) lashings of mockery, a 'corruption watch'
eviscerating all the debate crushing injustices you partisan
stooges will impose of a whole range of legitimate critics,

post all that IN ALT.ATHEISM and then cross-post the lot
to all relevant groups (except yours of course ;-)

Why would anyone want to talk TO the chronically SELF-
BLINKERED, when all I have ever done is talk ABOUT you.

Nothing changes for me, I'm a commentator ON atheism,
not a debater OF atheists.. B^] ..I haven't been able to
find an atheist capable of sustained rational discourse
in over TWO YEARS.. they all end up snipping, lying
and RUNNING AWAY... BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAA

Just like you are all doing NOW!

Whooooooo HOOOOOOOOOOOO! B^D

This is the SWEETEST VICTORY of them all.

> for the obvious reason.

Obvious to me, I have the advantage of strategic thinking,
you have to be told what's happening AFTER the event!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAA

NewsFlash:

EVERY ATHEIST REGIME WAS INFESTED WITH REACTIONARIES

You dumb fucks are NO DIFFERENT! B^D


My thanks to all you atheist Kook Suckers
for making this SO EASY for me! B^]


> The anti-atheist trolls professed that their goal was to drive
> atheists from a.a.

Golly, your sure proved THEM RIGHT! B^D

> But now that atheists might leave voluntarily

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAA

I don't know which is funnier, that after all
your BITCHING and MOANING about how you HAVE to go because
the NOISE of people laughing at atheists, ridiculing
and mocking you is DRIVING you away, you now pretend
you are 'leaving voluntarily' BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAAAAA

or the sudden appearance of 'might' in front of 'leave'!


Second thoughts, eh you stupid POSTURING twats!

You threatened to take you ball and go home and when
the only reaction was loads of laughter and cries of
'don't let the door bang your arse on the way out', B^D

Ravin suddenly says he's staying, Hysteria joins the
defectors from the swinging in the wind atheist Exodus and
now Moses suddenly declares that the wilderness is
not really a land of Milk and Honey and perhaps life as
a pathetic captive in Egypt is not so bad after all!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAA

Every time you post I end up with my sides splitting
from laughter.

> the
atheist
> trolls are panicking.

B^D Hysteria has had a psychic break, thinks she doesn't exist,
(when really it's just that people ignore the boring bitch B^)
and keeps chanting some repetitive Troll Mantra to ward off
reality! B^D

Ravin1 rushed to help her, which naturally just made things worse!

> I don't wonder why.

No one does, atheists are all show and no SUBSTANCE.

So their works usually come to nothing.

> Hilarious.

Just so, chief Clown, just so! B^D

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On 29/05/2012 1:22 AM, raven1 wrote:
> On 29/05/2012 12:04 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> raven1 entered the steel trap:
>>> On 27/05/2012 12:16 PM, the winnower wrote:
>>>> Mike Lovell, clueless dupe, accepted Raven1's forgery without question:
>>>>> raven1, dishonest atheist coward, forged my post and misled atheist
>>>>> dupe Mike:
>>>>>> On 26/05/2012 6:44 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>>>>> Mike Lovell declares atheists prefer monologue:
>>>>
>>>> Raven1's forgery replaced my words with his, but falsely attributed
>>>> to me:
>>
>>> Attributed to *you* "the winnower"?
>>
>> Correct, Moses Lovell declared he has me killfiled and as he
>> couldn't see my real text, only the FORGERY you duped him with,
>> the only way I could make sure he found out how you duped him by
>> snipping my text and replacing it with YOUR FORGERY was to change my
>> posting ID to show himso he would see the PROOF of your lies and
>> deception: B^]
>>
>>>> # >>> Mike Lovell declares atheists prefer dialogue with people who
>>>> # >>> don't rant and rave like homeless crackheads.
>>>> #
>>>> # >> Fixed it for you, oh raving, drooling loon.
>>>>
>>>> "Fixed it for you" is the atheist forgers way of admitting that
>>>> they can't debate what you ACTUALLY SAY, so they delete it,
>>>> replace it with THEIR text, and then the delusional frauds
>>>> DEBATE THEIR OWN FORGERY! B^D
>>>>
>>>> They are TALKING TO THEMSELVES, they are NOT interested in dialog with
>>>> people of DIFFERENT OPINIONS, they are control freaks who want to CENSOR
>>>> AND SUPPRESS any views which dissent from their own PREJUDICES and
>>>> DOGMA.
>>
>> Naturally I intended no deceit, that is YOUR game, you lying post
>> forging atheist shitpig, and if anyone thought that it wasn't OBVIOUS
>> that It was me posting the expose of your villany, they would certainly
>> understand when I simply declared it to be.
>>
>> I have nothing to hide. I OPENLY changed my sig to show a poor self-
>> blinkered atheist fool, duped by you and your pathetic, deceitful
>> atheist thuggery how you were deceiving him.
>>
>>
>> Game Set Match. B^]
> >
> Wow.

You atheists are not used to the idea of acting with
integrity, something alien to you.

> still confusing parody with forgery.

You always do, morality is something alien to you.

It really is quite simple, simpler even than you:

Parody is when I make fun of you, taking full responsibility
for the parody being my work.

Forgery is when you make some pathetic shit up and slap
my name on it because you are a weak, lying atheist shitpig.

> which is even higher on the Kook scale than sock-puppetry.

and lower on the pond scum scale of slimy atheist liars.

> Nice job

It's easy with a bottom crawling carrion eater like you.

> attention whore!

If you prefer that title, it's just as appropriate! B^]

> raven1

the post forging attention whore with almost nothing to say,
(he had a brief lucid moment months ago):

# From: raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: Anyone seen Hysteria, Abu Baker Bashir and Kelsey
Bjarnyard? B^D
# Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:15:11 -0500
# Message-ID: <87ttk498t9sueojr7...@4ax.com>
#
# There has never been a "Great, Enduring Atheist Civilization"

Because, as Ravin1 and his dishonest atheist cronies demonstrate
all shit can make is a foul stench and a stain on the carpet.


> BAAWA Knight



>>> Sock-puppetry is

to post forging as consensual group sex is to rape.
>>> ---
>>> raven1
>>> aa # 1096
>>> EAC Vice President (President in charge of vice)
>>> BAAWA Knight
>>


Waldo Tunnel

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On May 29, 4:56 am, fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 29/05/2012 8:56 PM, Waldo Tunnel wrote:

Quit sending me e-mail, pervert.

fasgnadh

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raven1 whined like a little bitch: B^D
> On 28/05/2012 11:29 PM, fasgnadh kicked ravin1's arse so hard he went in a coma:
>> On 28/05/2012 11:39 AM, raven1 wrote:
>>> On 27/05/2012 12:44 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>> raven1 declares he's staying after my taunt:
>>>>>
>>>>> why should I go anywhere
>>>>
>>>> I told you so! B^D
>>>>
>>>> Right up there in the Subject of my previous post! BWAHAHAHAHAAHAA
>>>>
>>>> #
>>>> # **********************************************************************
>>>> # Subject: Atheists seem reluctant to fuck off to Atheist Pleasantville
>>>> # **********************************************************************
>>>>
>>>> As usual folks, you hear the atheists plans from me BEFORE you
>>>> hear it from them.. I play them like a fiddle! B^D
>>>>
>>>> I call THEIR shots, as well as my own! ;-)

Now in a conversation with Moses Lovell an atheist revealed they
MIGHT leave!?!!!!! 8^o and Moses didn't disagree!

Waldo and Moses have joined the dithering equivocators in wondering if
they have made a mistake, surrendering alt.atheism and slinking away
in defeat. They will have to leave some TOKEN PRESENCE! B^D

Remember you heard it first HERE! ;-)

# Subject: Re: alt.atheism.moderated - It's non-fuctional
# Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 03:56:34 -0700 (PDT)
# Message-ID: <41a09e5f-146e-49a0-
# On May 28, 6:11=A0pm, Mike Lovell <dev.n...@b0h0.com> wrote:
#
# The anti-atheist trolls professed that their goal was to drive
# atheists from a.a.

Clearly they achieved their goal! B^D

Realising their fatal mistake in running away is obvious DEFEAT,
the atheists are dithering and pretending they have a choice! B^D

# atheists might leave

Ravin1 and Hysteria have drawn the short straws! B^D

They have to stay out in the cold and fight a desperate 'rear guard'
action to 'defend' the territory atheists have already admitted THEY
HAVE LOST!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAA!

>>>> This is a HOOT!

Fuckin AY! B^D

I haven't had so much fun since Virgil's ISP pulled his account
for being a filthypost forging atheist shitpig!

Not that I had anything to do with that! ;-)

>>>> How many more can I TAUNT into staying, by COMPLETELEY UNDERMINING,
>>>> as Raven1 has just done, their supposed 'reason' for FLEEING:
>>>> viz: "they want a quiet space with no 'noise'"(ie the ideas of people
>>>> whom atheists disagree with must be SILENCED just like the USSR,
>>>> Maoist China, Nth Korea etc ;-)
>>>>
>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHA
>>>>
>>>> Ravin1 now says he's staying.. so 'noise' is not a problem at all! B^D

Their position is untenable.. thay have told so many self-
contradictory stories their credibility is SHOT To SHIT! B^D

>>>> And we already had Mike Lovell, whose hatching Atheist Pleasantville,
>>>> admit that he doesn't see, and can't even READ, the posts he comments
>>>> on, because he has the posters KILLFILED!!!! 8^o

http://arrogantass.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/head_up_ass.jpg B^]
>> On 28/05/2012 11:39 AM, raven1 ignored 660 lines of wasted bandwidth.
>
> *Yawn*
>
>
>
> ---
> raven1
> aa # 1096
> EAC Vice President (President in charge of vice)
> BAAWA Knight


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raven1

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On Tue, 29 May 2012 22:11:50 +1000, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

*Yawn*. 534 lines to say absolutely nothing, as usual. You're rapidly
losing your amusement value.

raven1

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On Tue, 29 May 2012 22:35:53 +1000, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>raven1 ignored 731 more lines of tosh from Fasgnadh.

Edited for brevity and clarity.

fasgnadh

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May 29, 2012, 8:47:42 AM5/29/12
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On 29/05/2012 3:58 AM, Don Martin wrote:
> On Sun, 27 May 2012 21:39:31 -0400, raven1
> <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 27 May 2012 12:44:18 +1000, fasgnadh<fasg...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> raven1 declares he's staying after my taunt:
>>
>> Fasgnadh thinks

Oh, dem afiests sure don' like that! B^D

Still they all talk about me endlessly (if meaninglessly,
snipping all the issues and simply whining like little bitches,
clearly i UPSET them enormously and they all

> seem to read his posts

Very encouraging to see atheists trying to learn
something that may help overcome their appalling bigotry
and prejudices..

> (and are rarely disappointed).

you're welcome!

B^D



> BAAWA

Brutal Atheist Animals Without Agape,
their 'Warlord' (sic) is a violent psychopath
who brags about violating corpses:


# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# From: raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: Anyone seen Hysteria, Abu Baker Bashir and Kelsey
Bjarnyard? B^D
# Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:15:11 -0500
# Message-ID: <87ttk498t9sueojr7...@4ax.com>
#
# There has never been a "Great, Enduring Atheist Civilization"

BAAWA demonstrates why, they are profoundly UNcivilised! 8^o

Waldo Tunnel

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On May 27, 1:43 am, fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 27/05/2012 3:28 PM, Mike Lovell wrote:
>

>
> "Oh what a tangled web you weave
> when first you practice to deceive"

And I thought Fagsnadh learned nothing from his intellectual
superiors.
>
> B^[

Let me try one!

B[0\/\/ /\/\^e.

>
> Will your BALTANT ...

What the fuck does that mean?

> or Wil whistleblowers

Who is Wil Whistleblowers?

> who expose lying atheist trolls be the subject of a partisan veranda?

How old are you?

> At what point can people take proceedings in the courts
> to contest abuses of due process in the proposed
> curtailment of Free Speech by a proven atheist liar?

I'm not sure a sub-australian would necessarily understand concepts
like due-process. Show me you do.

Or run away, of course. (I've got a fiver on the latter).

> Will your cronies just let it all go by?
>
> When they do does that add Corruption to
> the malfeasance.

Not exactly the queen of logic, are you?

>
> Do any of you have a swimming pool, I want to know
> who has the property worth a civil case.   ;-)

I guess a swimming pool is a big deal "down under."

>
> What else have you lied about in the Atheist Pleasantville
> saga, Mr Lovell?

Do you think merely assuming your conclusions ("lied") is a persuasive
tactic?



[fagsnadh is getting his fat ass kicked. Undeniable]

Waldo Tunnel

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On May 29, 5:47 am, fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 29/05/2012 3:58 AM, Don Martin wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 27 May 2012 21:39:31 -0400, raven1
> > <quoththera...@nevermore.com>  wrote:
>
> >> On Sun, 27 May 2012 12:44:18 +1000, fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> raven1 declares he's staying after my taunt:
>
> >> Fasgnadh thinks
>
> Oh, dem afiests sure don' like that!    B^D

That's very clever! Delete your correspondent's words to change the
meaning and then phony up a punch line.

I lied. That's not very clever.

> Still they all talk about me endlessly

If you had your way. It's what you live for.


> (if meaninglessly, snipping all the issues and simply whining like little bitches,
> clearly i UPSET them enormously...

So you admit to coming across like a bad case of crabs?

[...]

raven1

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On Tue, 29 May 2012 06:27:01 -0700 (PDT), Waldo Tunnel
<waldo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On May 29, 5:47 am, fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> Still they all talk about me endlessly
>
>If you had your way. It's what you live for.

They have his picture in the dictionary under "attention whore".

fasgnadh

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May 29, 2012, 9:54:17 AM5/29/12
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Jeanne Douglas wants to join the bitch and moan session,atheist SOP:
> Don Martin wants to talk ABOUT me, (they can't debate WITH me): ;-)
>
>> raven1tries to debate me, but is handicapped by his pointlessness:
>>
>>> On Sun, 27 May 2012 12:44:18 +1000, fasgnadh<fasg...@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> raven1 declares he's staying after my taunt:
>>>
>>> Fasgnadh thinks

And anyone who does that is accused by atheists of ThoughtCrime! B^D

They are troubled that they can't silence me, but remain obsessed
because I'm the alpha male intellectual in alt.atheism and they
are forced to accept that everyone

>> seem to read his posts

very gratifying.

>(and are rarely disappointed).

Thanks, it's becasue I have something to say, all atheists
do is WHINE about other people having a say! B^p

Endless Pointless Bitching about those you can't debate but
instead just COMPLAIN that they are allowed to speak!

Atheists want to SILENCE others.. if they can't they
MOAN and BLEAT about what they can't BEAT!

> I tried that for a while.

but you couldn't debate your way out of a brown paper bag! B^D

> it's a waste of time to try

Sorry to hear your altzheimers is so advanced, grandma Simpson!

I will try to go easy on you, I don't want to be called cruel for
beating up on hopeless 'tards! B^D

> He's not the only one who does that.

No, unlike atheists lots of decent people go easy on you
whining, waste of space, tossers!

> I don't understand

Of course not, granma Simpson, YOU'RE AN ATHEIST!

> why someone thinks

Well, we do it for lots of reasons, to avoid becoming
atheist fuckwits, for a start! B^D

> hiding their actual "content" among extraneous stuff

We call it evidence, to rational thinkers it's not
extraneous, what is amazing is that you post WITHOUT
ANY of it, nor any of the ACTUAL CONTENT you acknowledge
exists but you CANT RESPOND TO!!!


BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

Waldo Tunnel

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On May 29, 4:56 am, fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 29/05/2012 8:56 PM, Waldo Tunnel wrote:

You use our internet and then have the gall to disrespect us.
Unbelievable. How tall are you, Fags?

fasgnadh

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On 29/05/2012 10:08 PM, raven1 bleated:

> A visit to alt.usenet.kooks may prove enlightening


Only you would seek enlightenment from the Kook Suckers!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAA

The last time your cronies the Kook Suckers poked their heads
in hear I handed them back to them on a platter.

They have never returned. B^]

I have conquered alt.atheism by sheer force of will. ;-)


You atheists are all weak as piss! B^]

Scores of you have tried to knobble me, and now I stand
here watching the atheists retreat into a tiny hole in the ground
and pull the earth in on top of themselves!

B^]





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fasgnadh

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On 29/05/2012 10:43 PM, raven1 wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2012 22:35:53 +1000, fasgnadh<fasg...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> raven1 ignored 731 more lines

well done.. that must be the pinnacle of your life's achievements!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

Now why don't you improve your skills by ignoring
every issue of time magazine.. B^D

or really impress people and ignore principia mathematica! 8^o

Or can you only manage ignoring the works from your nemesis: B^]

> from Fasgnadh.

Ah I thought so ..the one you neurotically obsess over to
such a degree that the only thing you do in USENET is post
telling people how many lines per day you snip! B^D B^D

Now that is really fucking KOOKY! B^D

# From: raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: Anyone seen Hysteria, Abu Baker Bashir and Kelsey
Bjarnyard? B^D
# Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:15:11 -0500
# Message-ID: <87ttk498t9sueojr7...@4ax.com>
#
# There has never been a "Great, Enduring Atheist Civilization"

Watching you faff about with so little going on upstairs
makes it really clear WHY! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAA!

Priceless!



Here, let me add some cut and paste facts about the
horrors of atheist regimes so people can see how YOU
can't face the facts, and how kind and generous I am
in helping you boost your line snipping quota, (ever
since I heard you whine about how you have a slow link
and with no job can't afford the bandwidth, I have tried
to pad my posts so you have to go without meals in order
to be able to slavishly follow me around yapping like a
little bitch about the Size of my posts..
Size is clearly an issue for Ravin1, as his only
(former) GF confirmed! ;-)


Since he can't respond to my posts without clicking on them,
I can do what the USA did to his atheist comrades in the USSR,
bankrupt him in an arms race, because he can't afford large downloads!
B^]

Ah, I love the smell of smoking atheist in the morning! B^D


ATHEIST STATES


"North Korea's government exercises virtual total
control over society and imposes state sanctioned atheism"
- Hertzke, Allen. 2006.
Freeing God's Children. Rowman & Littlefield

---------

"Although the North Korean constitution states that freedom of religion
is permitted, free religious activities no longer exist in North Korea
as the government sponsors religious groups only to create an illusion
of religious freedom"
- Essential Background: Overview of human rights issues in
Human Rights in North Korea
(DPRK: The Democratic People's Republic of Korea)
(Human Rights Watch, 8-7-2004)

---------

"All publications are subject to supervision and censorship by the state.
There is no freedom of religion.
Independent worship is not allowed"

http://www.hrw.org/legacy/english/docs/2004/07/08/nkorea9040.htm

---------

"North Korea is officially an atheist state"
- World and Its Peoples: Eastern and Southern Asia

---------

"Atheism continues to be the official position of the
governments of China, North Korea and Cuba."
- The State of Religion Atlas. Simon & Schuster.



"autonomous religious activities now almost nonexistent;
government-sponsored religious groups exist to provide illusion of
religious freedom"

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/kn.html

---------

THAT IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF AN ATHEIST TOTALITARIAN STATE!

# http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004
#
# "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
# by a government, typically by active suppression of
# religious freedom and practice."
# - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
# Characteristics and Consequences,
# David Kowalewski,
# Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441,
#
#
# "An atheist, Pol Pot suppressed Cambodia’s Buddhist religion:
# monks were defrocked; temples and artifacts, including statues of
# Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing
# other religious sentiments were often killed.
# ...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations
# and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked
# and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or
# starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals
# prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state
# instead of the family.
#
# About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population,
# were worked, starved, or beaten to death under Pol Pot’s regime."
# - http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761579038/pol_pot.html
#
# The Cambodian Genocide:
http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/392millones.jpg

#
# "The country's 40,000 to 60,000 Buddhist monks,
# regarded by the regime as social parasites,
# were defrocked and forced into labor brigades.
# Many monks were executed; temples and pagodas were
# destroyed or turned into storehouses or jails.
# Images of the Buddha were defaced and dumped into
# rivers and lakes. People who were discovered praying
# or expressing religious sentiments in other ways
# were often killed.
#
# The Christian and Muslim communities were among the most
# persecuted, as well. The Roman Catholic cathedral of
# Phnom Penh was completely razed.
#
# The Khmer Rouge forced Muslims to eat pork, which they
# regard as an abomination. Many of those who refused were killed.
# Christian clergy and Muslim imams were executed."
# - http://countrystudies.us/cambodia/29.htm
#
# "Forty-eight percent of Cambodia's Christians were killed
# because of their religion."
#
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk158/CANDEMIELDA/44camboyano.jpg

#
#
# "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
# - Daniel Peris,
# "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
# Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
#
#
# "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
# countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China,
# Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
# Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
# promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
# - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
# Wolak, Arthur J. p 104
#
# In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
# intrinsic part of communist ideology.



# From: raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: Anyone seen Hysteria, Abu Baker Bashir
# and Kelsey Bjarnyard? B^D
# Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:15:11 -0500
# Message-ID: <87ttk498t9sueojr7...@4ax.com>
#
#
# > raven1 wrote:
# >
# >> Even under officially atheistic regimes such as Stalin's,


Compare the most (in)Famous atheists Lenin, Stalin, Mao,
Pol Pot, with the great theist thinkers:


---------
The Greatness of God is something we cannot understand even though we
are aware of it

- Rene Descarte 1596-1650 mathematician and philosopher

René Descartes one of the key thinkers of the Scientific Revolution in
the Western World. honoured by having the Cartesian coordinate system
used in plane geometry and algebra named after him. He did important
work on invariants and geometry. His Meditations on First Philosophy
partially concerns theology and he was devoted to reconciling his ideas
with the dogmas of Catholic Faith to which he was loyal.


I see everywhere the inevitable expression of the infinite in the world

- Louis Pasteur 1822-95

As a blind man has no idea of colours, so have we no idea of the manner
by which the All-Wise God perceives and understands all things.

- Sir Isaac Newton 1642-1727

The scientific picture of the real world around me is very
deficient...Science cannot tell us why music delights us, of why and how
an old song can move us to tears.... Science is reticent too when it is
a question of the great Unity... of which we all somehow form a part, to
which we belong. The most popular name for it in our time is God.

- Erwin Schroedinger 1933 Nobel prize in Physics
"My view of the World" 1918

There can never be any real opposition between religion and science.
Every serious and reflective person realizes, I think, that the
religious elements in his nature must be recognized and cultivated if
all the powers of the human soul are to act together in perfect balance
and harmony.

- Max Planck winner of the 1918 Nobel prize in Physics
"Where is Science Going" 1918

"Something unknown is doing we don't know what"
-Sir Arthur Eddington

Religion and science are the two wings upon which man's intelligence can
soar into the heights, with which the human soul can progress. It is not
possible to fly with one wing alone! Should a man try to fly with the
wing of religion alone he would quickly fall into the quagmire of
superstition, whilst on the other hand, with the wing of science alone
he would make no progress, but fall into the despairing slough of
materialism.

- 'Abdu'l - Baha "Paris Talks" 1911

Fred Hoyle (British astrophysicist): "A common sense interpretation of
the facts suggests that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as
well as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind forces
worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one calculates from the
facts seem to me so overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost
beyond question." (2)

George Ellis (British astrophysicist): "Amazing fine tuning occurs in
the laws that make this [complexity] possible. Realization of the
complexity of what is accomplished makes it very difficult not to use
the word 'miraculous' without taking a stand as to the ontological
status of the word." (3)

Alan Sandage (winner of the Crawford prize in astronomy): "I find it
quite improbable that such order came out of chaos. There has to be
some organizing principle. God to me is a mystery but is the
explanation for the miracle of existence, why there is something
instead of nothing." (6)

John O'Keefe (astronomer at NASA): "We are, by astronomical standards,
a pampered, cosseted, cherished group of creatures.. .. If the
Universe had not been made with the most exacting precision we could
never have come into existence. It is my view that these circumstances
indicate the universe was created for man to live in." (7)

George Greenstein (astronomer): "As we survey all the evidence, the
thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather,
Agency - must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without
intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence
of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially
crafted the cosmos for our benefit?" (8)

Arthur Eddington (astrophysicist): "The idea of a universal mind or
Logos would be, I think, a fairly plausible inference from the present
state of scientific theory." (9)

Arno Penzias (Nobel prize in physics): "Astronomy leads us to a unique
event, a universe which was created out of nothing, one with the very
delicate balance needed to provide exactly the conditions required to
permit life, and one which has an underlying (one might say
'supernatural') plan." (10)

Roger Penrose (mathematician and author): "I would say the universe
has a purpose. It's not there just somehow by chance." (11)

Tony Rothman (physicist): "When confronted with the order and beauty
of the universe and the strange coincidences of nature, it's very
tempting to take the leap of faith from science into religion. I am
sure many physicists want to. I only wish they would admit it." (12)

Vera Kistiakowsky (MIT physicist): "The exquisite order displayed by
our scientific understanding of the physical world calls for the
divine." (13)

Robert Jastrow (self-proclaimed agnostic): "For the scientist who has
lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad
dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to
conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he
is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for
centuries." (14)

Stephen Hawking (British astrophysicist): "Then we shall… be able to
take part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and
the universe exist. If we find the answer to that, it would be the
ultimate triumph of human reason - for then we would know the mind of
God." (15)

Frank Tipler (Professor of Mathematical Physics): "When I began my
career as a cosmologist some twenty years ago, I was a convinced
atheist. I never in my wildest dreams imagined that one day I would be
writing a book purporting to show that the central claims of Judeo-
Christian theology are in fact true, that these claims are
straightforward deductions of the laws of physics as we now understand
them. I have been forced into these conclusions by the inexorable
logic of my own special branch of physics." (16) Note: Tipler since
has actually converted to Christianity, hence his latest book, The
Physics Of Christianity.

Alexander Polyakov (Soviet mathematician): "We know that nature is
described by the best of all possible mathematics because God created
it."(17)

Ed Harrison (cosmologist): "Here is the cosmological proof of the
existence of God – the design argument of Paley – updated and
refurbished. The fine tuning of the universe provides prima facie
evidence of deistic design. Take your choice: blind chance that
requires multitudes of universes or design that requires only one....
Many scientists, when they admit their views, incline toward the
teleological or design argument." (18)

Edward Milne (British cosmologist): "As to the cause of the Universe,
in context of expansion, that is left for the reader to insert, but
our picture is incomplete without Him [God]." (19)

Barry Parker (cosmologist): "Who created these laws? There is no
question but that a God will always be needed." (20)

Drs. Zehavi, and Dekel (cosmologists): "This type of universe,
however, seems to require a degree of fine tuning of the initial
conditions that is in apparent conflict with 'common wisdom'." (21)

Arthur L. Schawlow (Professor of Physics at Stanford University, 1981
Nobel Prize in physics): "It seems to me that when confronted with the
marvels of life and the universe, one must ask why and not just how.
The only possible answers are religious. . . . I find a need for God
in the universe and in my own life." (22)

Henry "Fritz" Schaefer (Graham Perdue Professor of Chemistry and
director of the Center for Computational Quantum Chemistry at the
University of Georgia): "The significance and joy in my science comes
in those occasional moments of discovering something new and saying to
myself, 'So that's how God did it.' My goal is to understand a little
corner of God's plan." (23)



Wernher von Braun (Pioneer rocket engineer) "I find it as difficult to
understand a scientist who does not acknowledge the presence of a
superior rationality behind the existence of the universe as it is to
comprehend a theologian who would deny the advances of science." (24)

Carl Woese (microbiologist from the University of Illinois) "Life in
Universe - rare or unique? I walk both sides of that street. One day I
can say that given the 100 billion stars in our galaxy and the 100
billion or more galaxies, there have to be some planets that formed
and evolved in ways very, very like the Earth has, and so would
contain microbial life at least. There are other days when I say that
the anthropic principal, which makes this universe a special one out
of an uncountably large number of universes, may not apply only to
that aspect of nature we define in the realm of physics, but may
extend to chemistry and biology. In that case life on Earth could be
entirely unique." (25)


"The human mind is not capable of grasping the Universe. We are like a
little child entering a huge library. The walls are covered to the
ceilings with books in many different tongues. The child knows that
someone must have written these books. It does not know who or how. It
does not understand the languages in which they are written. But the
child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books - a
mysterious order which it does not comprehend, but only dimly
suspects." - Albert Einstein

"The statistical probability that organic structures and the most
precisely harmonized reactions that typify living organisms would be
generated by accident, is zero."- Ilya Prigogine (Chemist-Physicist)
Recipient of two Nobel Prizes in chemistry
I. Prigogine, N. Gregair, A. Babbyabtz, Physics Today 25, pp. 23-28

"The really amazing thing is not that life on Earth is balanced on a
knife-edge, but that the entire universe is balanced on a knife-edge,
and would be total chaos if any of the natural 'constants' were off
even slightly. You see," Davies adds, "even if you dismiss man as a
chance happening, the fact remains that the universe seems
unreasonably suited to the existence of life -- almost contrived --
you might say a 'put-up job'."- Dr. Paul Davies
(noted author and Professor of Theoretical Physics at Adelaide
University)


Just a few believers who exceeded the intellectual output of this
ignorant atheist fuckwit and his cronies in alt.atheism;

Sir Francis Bacon - established the scientific method of inquiry based
on experimentation and inductive reasoning.

Nicolaus Copernicus Catholic canon who introduced a heliocentric world view.

William Turner the "father of English botany"

John Napier Scottish mathematician known for inventing logarithms,
Napier's bones, and being the popularizer of the use of decimals.

Johannes Kepler His model of the cosmos based on nesting Platonic solids
was explicitly driven by religious ideas; his later and most famous
scientific contribution, the Kepler's laws of planetary motion, was
based on empirical data that he obtained from Tycho Brahe's meticulous
astronomical observations,

I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us
with senses, reason and intellect has intended us to forego their use
and by some other means to give us knowledge which we can obtain by
them. He would not require us to deny sense and reason in physical
matters which are set before our eyes and minds by direct experience or
necessary demonstrations.

- Galileo Galilei 1615.

..science can only be created by those who are thoroughly imbued with
the aspiration toward truth and understanding. This source of feeling,
however, springs from the sphere of Religion... science without religion
is lame, religion without science is blind.

- Albert Einstein "Ideas and Opinions" 1954

The glory and greatness of the Almighty God are marvellously discerned
in all His works and divinely read in the open book of heaven

- Galileo Galilei 1564-1642

Blaise Pascal well-known for Pascal's law (physics), Pascal's theorem
(math), and Pascal's Wager (theology).

Nicolas Steno a pioneer in both anatomy and geology

Robert Boyle Scientist and theologian who argued that the study of
science could improve glorification of God.

John Wallis As a mathematician he wrote Arithmetica Infinitorumis,
introduced the term Continued fraction, worked on cryptography, helped
develop calculus, and is further known for the Wallis product.


Gottfried Leibniz A polymath who worked on determinants, a calculating
machine

Isaac Newton (He is regarded as one of the greatest scientists and
mathematicians in history.

Thomas Bayes Bayes' theorem. Fellow of the Royal Society

Firmin Abauzit A physicist and theologian.

Carolus Linnaeus father of modern taxonomy, contributions to ecology.

Leonhard Euler mathematician and physicist,

Maria Gaetana Agnesi mathematician

Isaac Milner Lucasian Professor of Mathematics
Michael Faraday

Charles Babbage

Gregor Mendel "father of modern genetics"

Asa Gray - Gray's Manual remains a pivotal work in botany.

Louis Pasteur Inventor of the pasteurization method, a french chemist
and microbiologist. He also solved the mysteries of rabies, anthrax,
chicken cholera, and silkworm diseases, and contributed to the
development of the first vaccines.


Lord Kelvin Thermodynamics. winner of the Copley Medal and the Royal Medal,

Pierre Duhem Thermodynamic potentials

Dmitri Egorov mathematician - differential geometry

John Ambrose Flemingthe Right-hand rule and work on vacuum tubes,
Fleming valve. the Hughes Medal.

Max Planck founder of Quantum mechanics (1918 Nobel Prize in Physics

Edward Arthur Milne astrophysicist and mathematician proposed the Milne
model and had a Moon crater named for him. Gold Medal of the Royal
Astronomical Society,

Arthur Compton Nobel Prize in Physics.

Georges Lemaître proposed the Big Bang theory. Roman Catholic priest

Sir Robert Boyd pioneer in British space science

von Weizsäcker nuclear physicist Bethe-Weizsäcker formula.

Charles Hard Townes 1964 Nobel Prize in Physics 1966 wrote The
Convergence of Science and Religion.

Freeman Dyson the Lorentz Medal, the Max Planck Medal, and the Lewis
Thomas Prize.

John T. Houghtonco-chair of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate
Change gold medal from the Royal Astronomical Society.

Micha? Heller mathematical physicist relativistic physics and
Noncommutative geometry.

Eric PriestSolar Magnetohydrodynamics , won the George Ellery Hale Prize

Francis Collins director of the US National Human Genome Research Institute.

John D. Barrow English cosmologist implications of the Anthropic principle.

Denis Alexander Director of the Faraday Institute and author of
Rebuilding the Matrix - Science and Faith in the 21st Century.

Christopher IshamTheoretical physicist who developed HPO formalism.

Martin NowakEvolutionary biologist and mathematician best known for
evolutionary dynamics.

Robert Boyle

Michael Faraday

And that's just a partial list of Western scientists who were believers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_scientists

raven1

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On Wed, 30 May 2012 00:27:52 +1000, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On 29/05/2012 10:08 PM, raven1 bleated:
>
>> A visit to alt.usenet.kooks may prove enlightening

>Only you would seek enlightenment from the Kook Suckers!
>
>BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAA

Immediately demonstrating the fine form that won you several
well-earned Usenet k00k awards there. Impressive!

>The last time your cronies the Kook Suckers poked their heads
>in hear I handed them back to them on a platter.

And now loudly proclaiming victory. Classic!

>They have never returned. B^]
>
>I have conquered alt.atheism by sheer force of will. ;-)

Yet again celebrating your imagined prowess. Outstanding! Do you
practice much at this, or are you just naturally gifted?

>You atheists are all weak as piss! B^]

Have you sampled piss often?

>Scores of you have tried to knobble me, and now I stand
>here watching the atheists retreat into a tiny hole in the ground
>and pull the earth in on top of themselves!

Translation: most of us killfiled your delusional ass a while ago.
Which is a victory of sorts, I guess, if being acknowledged as a waste
of oxygen was a worthwhile endeavor.

raven1

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On Tue, 29 May 2012 23:54:17 +1000, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>They are troubled that they can't silence me

Actually, we're trying to err on the side of kindness in telling you
to shut your piehole, on the principle that it's impolite to silence a
fool, but cruel to let him continue.

raven1

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May 29, 2012, 11:02:57 AM5/29/12
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On Wed, 30 May 2012 00:50:49 +1000, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On 29/05/2012 10:43 PM, raven1 wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 May 2012 22:35:53 +1000, fasgnadh<fasg...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> raven1 ignored 731 more lines
>
>well done.. that must be the pinnacle of your life's achievements!

Being summarily dismissed by me is certainly the pinnacle of yours.

fasgnadh

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May 29, 2012, 11:19:20 AM5/29/12
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On 29/05/2012 8:54 AM, raven1 wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2012 15:41:11 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
> <hlw...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> In article<gqd7s7dvmg89m7oml...@4ax.com>,
>> Don Martin<drdon...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 27 May 2012 21:39:31 -0400, raven1
>>> <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 27 May 2012 12:44:18 +1000, fasgnadh<fasg...@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> raven1 declares he's staying after my taunt:
>>>>
>>>> Fasgnadh thinks

It gives me an evolutionary advantage over atheists, who don't! B^]


Ravin1 for example spends his pathetic existence downloading
my posts (ever since he whined about their size, complaining that
they hurt his brain, and broke his budget because as an unemployed loser
he can't afford broadband, I have kept upping the ante.. ;-) everytime
he sees me I raise him a few dollars worth of downloads... BWAHAHAH

I hear he's eating DOG FOOD so he can continue to almost afford
to download big posts then snip them and declare, proudly, (because,
lets face it, this IS his SOLE ACCOMPLISHMENT ;-) that he's IGNORING ME!

I mean that's just a terrifying threat! B^D

"Don't do it or I will .. er I'll IGNORE YOU!!!!"

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAA!

Look, I know lots of you think it's cruel to string him along like this,
but seriously.. how could you resist mind fucking such a willing tool?
B^D

He's so stupid that his atheist cronies revealed that he

>>> filed his stupid ass

8^o And they don't mean he took a photo and stored it under
"A" for atheist arsehole.. he used a real file!

Apparently he does it to stay awake all night so he can read my posts...

> to read his posts only for stuff to

ignore! B^D

>> I tried that for a while.

Why don't you pathetic losers get a goldfish and IGNORE that! B^D

>> What I don't understand

Would fill volumes... it will be much quicker if you just
talk about what you do understand.. here's the back of a matchbox,
take five seconds and write it down! B^]

> Fasgnadh isn't here to communicate,

I hear you atheists have dedicated a whole Department of Fasgnadhology
to store your endless, baseless speculations on why I'm here.

You could just ask me.. B^D

But then, being you.. you would have to IGNORE the Answer,
and then spend all week discussing with your cronies which
speculative nonsense, lies and slander you can make up satisfies
your delusional state the best. B^]

> he's here to engage in anti-social behavior

Hey, you are the post forger... I just mock you mercilessly.

That's a community service, not anti social


> that would get his lights punched out if he tried it in real
> life.

I never meet any violent atheist thugs in real life, and no one
has ever been upset by my views.. so you seem to be unique in
your obsession with the power I hold over you.

I'll be in the states soon, Guangzhou China, then
California, Nevada, Oregon, Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, Colorado,
New Mexico, Arizona, then fly down to Anguilla...

Lets catch up and you can struggle to get out of your
wheelchair and try to punch my lights out... B^D

I don't see why my mockery of you should be limited
to the virtual sphere only...

B^]

fasgnadh

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May 29, 2012, 11:25:46 AM5/29/12
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raven1 download$ Hundred$ of Line$ just to "ignore" me: B^D
> On 30/05/2012 12:50 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> On 29/05/2012 10:43 PM, raven1 wrote:
>>> On Tue, 29 May 2012 22:35:53 +1000, fasgnadh<fasg...@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> raven1 ignored 731 more lines
>>
>> well done.. that must be the pinnacle of your life's achievements!
>>
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
>>
>
> certainly the pinnacle

Sad really! B^D

Oh BTW, you forgot to gloat that you were posting
to give everyone an 'Ignoring Post' status update
on your pointless and boring existence! B^D

fasgnadh

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May 29, 2012, 11:41:47 AM5/29/12
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On 29/05/2012 11:27 PM, Waldo Tunnel wrote:
> On May 29, 5:47 am, fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 29/05/2012 3:58 AM, Don Martin wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 27 May 2012 21:39:31 -0400, raven1
>>> <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> On Sun, 27 May 2012 12:44:18 +1000, fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>> raven1 declares he's staying after my taunt:
>>
>>>> Fasgnadh thinks
>>
>> Oh, dem afiests sure don' like that! B^D
>
> That's very clever!

And absolutely true.

And completely different from the POST FORGING
with you dishonest atheist shitpigs serve up and then
pretend to call it PARODY!

B^D

Don't like it?

Then go FUCK YERSELVES! B^]

Why are you even still here?

> Delete your correspondent's words

Perfectly legitimate, Raven deletes whole posts! B^]

And you were all caught Lying about me and now
want to cry if i rip you a new arsehole!

Have a little CRY! BWAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!

> change the meaning

Nope, the meaning of your words is unchanged,
unlike when Raven1 FORGES posts pretending I have said
the CRAP he spews!

I repeat, go fuck yourselves, you MEWLING ATHEIST HYPOCRITES?

Don't like having your crap demolished by a singlehanded
poster?? THEN GO HUDDLE IN YOUR COLLECTIVE BUNKER! B^}

But you won't be any safer THERE! B^D

Wherever you post, I can run rings around you slow-witted
atheist stooges, so get used to gnashing your teeth as
I mock your idiocy with the ease of whipping up

> a punch line.
>
> I lied.

You're an atheist,

> That's not very clever.

Clearly, but we expect nothing more from you.

>> Still they all talk about me endlessly, (if meaninglessly,
>> snipping all the issues and simply whining like little bitches,

Ravin1 is the funniest he downloads massive files,
(which ha=e tells us he can't afford, SO I keep
padding them ;-) and then he posts saying nothing
but that he's ignoring them!

BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

Ah, he's a riot! B^D

I haven't had so much fun since we were kids and
blew up frogs with Po Ha Firecrackers!

> you had your way

sure, you were easy to fuck over! B^D

>> clearly i UPSET them enormously...
>
> like a bad case of crabs


http://www.supercoloring.com/wp-content/main/2009_11/Homer-got-bitten-by-crab-coloring-page.gif

DOH!

I'd like to say I'm sorry, but i'm not! B^]

BTW, that 2" long appendage of yours I snipped off
can't be a toe, it's got no nail, and some pea sized balls attached.

ooops! Still you won't miss what you never used! B^D

Moral of the story: don't try and fuck with me. ;-)



--

Mike Lovell

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May 29, 2012, 11:40:41 AM5/29/12
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On 2012-05-29, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > certainly the pinnacle
>
> Sad really! B^D
>
> Oh BTW, you forgot to gloat that you were posting
> to give everyone an 'Ignoring Post' status update
> on your pointless and boring existence! B^D

You know you could always cut out all the crap that you're not
responding to so your post isn't massively bloated with rubbish.

Netiquette.

Although I'm sure you take any kind of politeness and social cooperation
as an assault on your freedom.

Another victim of ASPD

--
Jews, Christians & Muslims
The content of your posts will show how much you
really believe God is looking over your shoulder

raven1

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May 29, 2012, 11:54:29 AM5/29/12
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On Wed, 30 May 2012 01:19:20 +1000, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>It gives me an evolutionary advantage

The idea of you spreading your genes is so disgusting and detrimental
to humanity that the notion should be outlawed.

raven1

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May 29, 2012, 11:55:46 AM5/29/12
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On Wed, 30 May 2012 01:25:46 +1000, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Sad really!

Indeed.

fasgnadh

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May 29, 2012, 11:57:02 AM5/29/12
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Waldo Tunnel outed himself as a cake boi:
> On 27/05/2012 6:43 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> On 27/05/2012 3:28 PM, Mike Lovell wrote:
>>> On 2012-05-27, Samuel Harrigon<samha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Proud to be everything the right wing hates.
>>>>
>>>> Is everyone leaving this place? What happened to everyone?
>>>
>>> Erm, we're all still here.
>>
>> That's not what you said earlier:
>>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>> # From: Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com>
>> # Subject: Re: alt.atheism.moderated - It's alive again, non-fuctional
>> # Message-ID: <slrnjs297o....@usenet.home.b0h0.com>
>> # Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 13:46:16 -0500
>> #
>> # On 2012-05-26, Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess
>> <god...@fidemturbare.com> wrote:
>> #
>> # > I've recently been considering an exit plan for this
>> # > "alt.atheism" newsgroup because I find the proselytizing
>> # > religious right-wing-nuts repeatedly attempting to
>> # > re-define atheism as a theology,
>> # > among other things, to be tiring and stupid.
>> #
>> # I think a lot of people have been lost over the years
>>
>> Then you lied when you claimed "we're all still here".. B^[
>>
>> or you lied when you admitted "a lot of people have
>> been lost over the years" B^[
>>
>>
>> or, most likely given your atheism, you lied both times. B^[
>>
>> Which is it, Troll?
>>
>>> You guys are predicting some kind of mass walk-out are you?
>>
>> He's only saying what you have already admitted to
>> having already happened! B^p
>>
>> "Oh what a tangled web you weave
>> when first you practice to deceive"
>>
>> B^[
>
> Fagsnadh learned

If only you dumbfuck atheists could! B^p


>>
>> Will your BLATANT lying be just cause for a charge of Trolling?
>
> What the fuck does that mean?

Get a dictionary, you ignorant inarticulate dimwit,
I don't have time to waste educating morons.


>> or Will whistleblowers who expose lying atheist trolls
>
> Who is Wil Whistleblowers?

Clearly someone who blew the whistle on you inability to read,
spell or comprehend! B^D

A three time atheist loser!

>> be the subject of a partisan vendetta?

Make that a FOUR time atheist loser: B^D

> a partisan veranda?

How old are you?

>> At what point can people take proceedings in the courts
>> to contest abuses of due process in the proposed
>> curtailment of Free Speech by a proven atheist liar?
>
> I'm not sure

Come back when you have a clue.

>> Will your cronies just let it all go by?
>>
>> When they do does that add Corruption to
>> the malfeasance.
>>
>> Do any of you have a swimming pool, I want to know
>> who has the property worth a civil case. ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> What else have you lied about in the Atheist Pleasantville
>> saga, Mr Lovell?
>
> getting his fat ass kicked.


Kicked by me, licked by you!

> Undeniable

B^]


>> When this unusual atheist, who appears to actually
>> possess some integrity, proposed that atheists steal
>> ideas from religion because they have none of their own,
>> he might have suggested they start with BASIC MORALITY:
>>
>> "Thou shalt not bear False Witness".
>>
>> If only the atheists would listen to the wisdom of the ages! B^[

raven1

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May 29, 2012, 11:58:56 AM5/29/12
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On Wed, 30 May 2012 01:41:47 +1000, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>And completely different from the POST FORGING
>with you dishonest atheist shitpigs serve up and then
>pretend to call it PARODY!

It's hardly our fault if you're too dense to tell the difference. If I
wanted to forge you, I'd post 600+ lines of complete nonsense and
attribute it to you.

fasgnadh

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May 29, 2012, 12:10:49 PM5/29/12
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On 29/05/2012 10:42 PM, raven1 wrote:
> 534 lines

Ever since you complained about being too poor to afford
downloads or fast internet I have tried to help you lose weight
by spending your food budget on downloading progressively
larger posts .

What's your plan when you can no longer choke on the big fat Post
I ram down your throat, holding your ears to get good traction...
because large downloads have beggared your meagre income from
begging and selling your arse? B^]

> to say absolutely nothing, as usual

Under my tutelage you are finally developing more
reasonable expectations in life for someone of your
decidedly limited capacities. B^]

Oh, c'mon now, are you crying? B^D

Stop weeping like a little bitch!

> You're rapidly losing your amusement value.

That's because I'm the nasty fucker and you're the fucked!

Mike Lovell

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May 29, 2012, 12:10:32 PM5/29/12
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I'd let it go before you end up in everyone's kill file along with this
guy.

He's an idiot who can't be reasoned with and thinks the world revolves
around him.

You're wasting your time on this loser.

fasgnadh

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May 29, 2012, 12:20:54 PM5/29/12
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On 30/05/2012 1:58 AM, raven1 wrote:
> On 30/05/2012 1:41 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> On 29/05/2012 11:27 PM, Waldo Tunnel wrote:
>>> On May 29, 5:47 am, fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On 29/05/2012 3:58 AM, Don Martin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 27 May 2012 21:39:31 -0400, raven1
>>>>> <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 27 May 2012 12:44:18 +1000, fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> raven1 declares he's staying after my taunt:
>>>>
>>>>>> Fasgnadh thinks
>>>>
>>>> Oh, dem afiests sure don' like that! B^D
>>>
>>> That's very clever!
>>
>> And absolutely true.
>>
>> And completely different from the POST FORGING
>> with you dishonest atheist shitpigs serve up and then
>> pretend to call it PARODY!
>
>our fault

It usually is.

>> B^D
>>
>> Don't like it?
>>
>> Then go FUCK YERSELVES! B^]
>>
>> Why are you even still here?
>>
>>> Delete your correspondent's words
>>
>> Perfectly legitimate, Raven deletes whole posts! B^]
>>
>> And you were all caught Lying about me and now
>> want to cry if i rip you a new arsehole!
>>
>> Have a little CRY! BWAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!
>>
>>> change the meaning
>>
>> Nope, the meaning of your words is unchanged,
>> unlike when Raven1 FORGES posts pretending I have said
>> the CRAP he spews!
>
> I wanted to forge you

And I wanted to expose you doing it.
�Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!�

fasgnadh

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On 30/05/2012 12:59 AM, raven1 wrote:
> On 29/05/2012 11:54 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> Jeanne Douglas wants to join the bitch and moan session,atheist SOP:
>>> Don Martin wants to talk ABOUT me, (they can't debate WITH me): ;-)
>>>
>>>> raven1tries to debate me, but is handicapped by his pointlessness:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 27 May 2012 12:44:18 +1000, fasgnadh<fasg...@yahoo.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> raven1 declares he's staying after my taunt:
>>>>>
>>>>> Fasgnadh thinks
>>
>> And anyone who does that is accused by atheists of ThoughtCrime! B^D
>>
>> They are troubled that they can't silence me, but remain obsessed
>> because I'm the alpha male intellectual in alt.atheism and they
>> are forced to accept that everyone
>>
>>>> seem to read his posts
>>
>> very gratifying.
>>
>>> (and are rarely disappointed).
>>
>> Thanks, it's because I have something to say, all atheists
>> do is WHINE about other people having a say! B^p
>>
>> Endless Pointless Bitching about those you can't debate but
>> instead just COMPLAIN that they are allowed to speak!
>>
>> Atheists want to SILENCE others.. if they can't they
>> MOAN and BLEAT about what they can't BEAT!

>
> Actually, we're trying to err

Being cretins, you won't have to try very hard.

fasgnadh

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May 29, 2012, 12:35:01 PM5/29/12
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On 30/05/2012 1:40 AM, Mike Lovell wrote:
> On 30/05/2012 1:25 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> raven1 download$ Hundred$ of Line$ just to "ignore" me: B^D
>>> On 30/05/2012 12:50 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>> On 29/05/2012 10:43 PM, raven1 wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 29 May 2012 22:35:53 +1000, fasgnadh<fasg...@yahoo.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> raven1 ignored 731 more lines
>>>>
>>>> well done.. that must be the pinnacle of your life's achievements!
>>>>
>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
>>>>
>>>
>>> certainly the pinnacle
>>
>> Sad really! B^D
>>
>> Oh BTW, you forgot to gloat that you were posting
>> to give everyone an 'Ignoring Post' status update
>> on your pointless and boring existence! B^D
>>
>>>> Now why don't you improve your skills by ignoring
>>>> every issue of time magazine.. B^D
>>>>
>>>> or really impress people and ignore principia mathematica! 8^o
>>>>
>>>> Or can you only manage ignoring the works from your nemesis: B^]
>>>>
>>>> > from Fasgnadh.
>>>>
>>>> Ah I thought so ..the one you neurotically obsess over to
>>>> such a degree that the only thing you do in USENET is post
>>>> telling people how many lines per day you snip! B^D B^D
>>>>
>>>> Now that is really fucking KOOKY! B^D
>
> You know

It wasn't hard to work out, his posts gave it away.



>>>> # From: raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com>
>>>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>>>> # Subject: Re: Anyone seen Hysteria, Abu Baker Bashir and Kelsey
>>>> Bjarnyard? B^D
>>>> # Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:15:11 -0500
>>>> # Message-ID: <87ttk498t9sueojr7...@4ax.com>
>>>> #
>>>> # There has never been a "Great, Enduring Atheist Civilization"
>>>>
>>>> Watching you faff about with so little going on upstairs
>>>> makes it really clear WHY! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAA!
>>>>
>>>> Priceless!
>
> you could always cut out all the crap

Ok

<snip>

B^]

>>>> Here, let me add some cut and paste facts about the
>>>> horrors of atheist regimes so people can see how YOU
>>>> can't face the facts, and how kind and generous I am
>>>> in helping you boost your line snipping quota, (ever
>>>> since I heard you whine about how you have a slow link
>>>> and with no job can't afford the bandwidth, I have tried
>>>> to pad my posts so you have to go without meals in order
>>>> to be able to slavishly follow me around yapping like a
>>>> little bitch about the Size of my posts..
>>>> Size is clearly an issue for Ravin1, as his only
>>>> (former) GF confirmed! ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Since he can't respond to my posts without clicking on them,
>>>> I can do what the USA did to his atheist comrades in the USSR,
>>>> bankrupt him in an arms race, because he can't afford large
>>>> downloads! B^]
>>>>
>>>> Ah, I love the smell of smoking atheist in the morning! B^D
>
> I'm sure

In my case it's from incinerating their bullshit,
in your case it's from friction as you bend over
and take it.

>>>> ATHEIST STATES
>
> an assault on your freedom.

An assault on EVERYONE's Freedom:

fasgnadh

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On 30/05/2012 1:55 AM, raven1 wrote:
> On 30/05/2012 1:25 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> raven1 download$ Hundred$ of Line$ just to "ignore" me: B^D
>>> On 30/05/2012 12:50 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>> On 29/05/2012 10:43 PM, raven1 wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 29 May 2012 22:35:53 +1000, fasgnadh<fasg...@yahoo.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> raven1 ignored 731 more lines
>>>>
>>>> well done.. that must be the pinnacle of your life's achievements!
>>>>
>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
>>>>
>>>
>>> certainly the pinnacle
>>
>> Sad really! B^D
>
> Indeed.

So why don't you pull your head out of your arse and get a clue?
>>>> # "An atheist, Pol Pot suppressed Cambodia�s Buddhist religion:
>>>> # monks were defrocked; temples and artifacts, including statues of
>>>> # Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing
>>>> # other religious sentiments were often killed.
>>>> # ...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations
>>>> # and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked
>>>> # and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or
>>>> # starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals
>>>> # prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state
>>>> # instead of the family.
>>>> #
>>>> # About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population,
>>>> # were worked, starved, or beaten to death under Pol Pot�s regime."
>>>> Ren� Descartes one of the key thinkers of the Scientific Revolution in
>>>> Stephen Hawking (British astrophysicist): "Then we shall� be able to
>>>> take part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and
>>>> the universe exist. If we find the answer to that, it would be the
>>>> ultimate triumph of human reason - for then we would know the mind of
>>>> God." (15)
>>>>
>>>> Frank Tipler (Professor of Mathematical Physics): "When I began my
>>>> career as a cosmologist some twenty years ago, I was a convinced
>>>> atheist. I never in my wildest dreams imagined that one day I would be
>>>> writing a book purporting to show that the central claims of Judeo-
>>>> Christian theology are in fact true, that these claims are
>>>> straightforward deductions of the laws of physics as we now understand
>>>> them. I have been forced into these conclusions by the inexorable
>>>> logic of my own special branch of physics." (16) Note: Tipler since
>>>> has actually converted to Christianity, hence his latest book, The
>>>> Physics Of Christianity.
>>>>
>>>> Alexander Polyakov (Soviet mathematician): "We know that nature is
>>>> described by the best of all possible mathematics because God created
>>>> it."(17)
>>>>
>>>> Ed Harrison (cosmologist): "Here is the cosmological proof of the
>>>> existence of God � the design argument of Paley � updated and
>>>> Georges Lema�tre proposed the Big Bang theory. Roman Catholic priest
>>>>
>>>> Sir Robert Boyd pioneer in British space science
>>>>
>>>> von Weizs�cker nuclear physicist Bethe-Weizs�cker formula.
�Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!�

raven1

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On Wed, 30 May 2012 02:25:48 +1000, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

<pats Fasgnadh on the head, gives him a biscuit>

raven1

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On Wed, 30 May 2012 02:20:54 +1000, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>And I wanted to expose you

I've already told you I don't swing that way, bitch.

fasgnadh

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May 29, 2012, 12:46:33 PM5/29/12
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On 30/05/2012 2:10 AM, Mike Lovell wrote:
> I'd let it go before you end up in everyone's kill
> file along with this guy.

I don't have a problem with atheist losers putting on the Killfile
blinkers, then they can't see me coming when I kick their arses!

B^D

>> I'll be in the states soon, Guangzhou China, then
>> California, Nevada, Oregon, Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, Colorado,
>> New Mexico, Arizona, then fly down to Anguilla...
>>
>> Lets catch up and you can struggle to get out of your
>> wheelchair and try to punch my lights out... B^D
>
> He's an idiot who can't be reasoned with and thinks
> the world revolves around him.

But it's fun to kick his sorry arse around USENET.

> You're wasting your time on this loser.

People have been saying that for two years about wasting time on all the
atheist losers but now you are all retreating from
alt.athesim, defeated..

It's clearly been worth it! B^]



>> I don't see why my mockery of you should be limited
>> to the virtual sphere only...
>>
>> B^]





--



---------


The foremost atheist Philosopher of our age recently
launched his new book "Religion for Atheists" and
no atheists are interested in talking about it:


http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com.au/



- Alain de Botton, Lanching his new Book, Religion for Atheists
The Wheeler Centre, Melbourne 19/3/2012


http://www.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/stories/2012/03/19/3455152.htm

---------

alt.atheism FAQ:

http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/


http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl=en&dmode=source



"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"We must combat religion"
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

�Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!�

L.Roberts

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May 29, 2012, 12:50:30 PM5/29/12
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On May 29, 10:27 am, fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Something which inspired me.

To wit something he said raven1 said 'his purpose in life is ignoring'
you. I have for some time now been looking for a ''purpose in life'
myself, so after this post I go to ignoring you, not that I haven't
been doing that for the most part for quite some time now.

And just so you know, there have been times when I would have
applauded you, and in this forum, agreed with you, (not many but some)
however, your assinine maligning of all atheists just ruins all of
that.

raven1

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May 29, 2012, 1:15:45 PM5/29/12
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On Wed, 30 May 2012 02:38:03 +1000, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Since you've become as interesting as watching paint dry, I won't
satisfy your infantile need for attention any further. You may now
strut around like a retarded rooster and loudly proclaim victory.

fasgnadh

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May 30, 2012, 9:19:57 AM5/30/12
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L.Roberts reveals his ignorance and misunderstanding:
> On May 29, 10:27 am, fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Something which inspired me.

Thanks, I often inspire people.

>> On 29/05/2012 10:08 PM, raven1 bleated:
>>
>>> A visit to alt.usenet.kooks may prove enlightening
>>
>>
>> Only you would seek enlightenment from the Kook Suckers!
>>
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAA
>>
>> The last time your cronies the Kook Suckers poked their heads
>> in hear I handed them back to them on a platter.
>>
>> They have never returned. B^]
>>
>> I have conquered alt.atheism by sheer force of will. ;-)
>>
>>
>> You atheists are all weak as piss! B^]
>>
>> Scores of you have tried to knobble me, and now I stand
>> here watching the atheists retreat into a tiny hole in the ground
>> and pull the earth in on top of themselves!
>>
>> B^]
>
> raven1 said 'his purpose in life is ignoring' you.

Yes, isn't that sad and pathetic! B^D

> I have for some time now been looking for a ''purpose in life'
> myself,

Ah, so you are another atheist suffering from a pointless existence.

> so after this post I go to ignoring you

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAA

I'm glad that your life now has a point because of ME! B^D


> And just so you know, there have been times when I would have
> applauded you

Of course, I am brilliant! ;-)

# and in this forum, agreed with you, (not many but some)

what a pity you missed your chance

> however, your assinine maligning of all atheists
> just ruins all of that.

Now you are just plain wrong, I do not malign ALL atheists
just the malign ones;


# Subject: How atheist forgers like Raven1 mislead clueless
# atheist dupes such as Mike Lovell was Re: Great News!
# Atheists decide to emigrate to North Korea so
# they can't hear their critics! Re: alt.atheism.moderated - "It's
# alive again, non-fuctional" - B^D that's for sure!
# Message-ID: <Y7gwr.7546$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>
# Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 12:16:32 +1000
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.atheism,alt.agnostiscism,alt.religion,
# alt.philosophy,aus.politics,uk.politics.misc,alt.politics.republicans,
# alt.usenet.kooks
#
# I do not dislike atheists, I respect their right to
# non-belief. "Many of my best friends are atheists"
# - genuinely and sincerely.
# ...
#
# There are many fine atheists, Phillip Adams, Brian Eno,
# the Late Richard Feynman are among my favourites,
# others who are impressive but strident include Dennett
# and De Grassi Tyson.. Dawkins is quite distasteful
# and we all know the atheist shock jocks .. not worthy of
# mention. I do have a genuine sympathy for those
# American atheists who encounter religious bigots,
# and I have never bothered with Bukakke's obsession
# with educating them about Evolution because, frankly,
# they need educating, dealing with such slow learners
# is not an interesting task for me, the job is already
# complete outside the USA, (in my country Evolution is
# taught in all the religious schools, as part of the
# common state and federal curricula, so it's not an issue)
# and frankly the fundie atheists and the fundie theists
# DESERVE EACH OTHER! B^D


It is because of my love and respect for those fine atheists
that I launched the clearly necessary Atheist Reform Movement.

My aim is, and always has been to purge atheism of the hate filled
dogmatism and closed minded, rabid anti theism.

That is all.

fasgnadh

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May 30, 2012, 9:27:47 AM5/30/12
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Waldo Tunnel demonstrates how easily he can dupe gullible atheists:
> On 29/05/2012 9:56 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> On 29/05/2012 8:56 PM, Waldo Tunnel wrote:
>>> On May 28, 6:11 pm, Mike Lovell<dev.n...@b0h0.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2012-05-29, Joe Bruno<ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, May 25, 2012 10:25:46 PM UTC-7, Mike Lovell wrote:
>>>>>> UPDATE:
>>>>
>>>>>> posts will not be appearing.
>>
>> Of course not, That's what happens to free dialogue in EVERY atheist
>> tyranny!
>>
>> B^D
>>
>> This is priceless, Atheists abandon their own NG, after watching
>> their numbers decline, their heavyweights despatched, and their
>> ridiculous dogma's mocked mercilessly.. and they form the VERY
>> stultifying, hermetically sealed dictatorship that they are historically
>> known for, and ridiculed for.. sealing their fate.
>>
>> Delicious IRONY!!
>>
>> So, losers, why is it taking so long for you to fuck off?
>>
>> The usual atheist INCOMPETENCE that brought the USSR, Maoist China
>> and Pol Pots Cambodia to the level of Rock Banging Barbarians? B^]
>>
>> It's just USENET, not fucking ROCKET SCIENCE! B^D
>>
>> Hurry up and move on.. I have already sublet your rooms to
>> some baboons in an attempt to increase the average IQ in alt.atheism!
>>
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
>>
>>>>> Now you atheists can exchange your distortions and conduct mutual
>>>>> masturbation
>>>>> without having to deal with any opposing views.You have bypassed
>>>>> that nasty
>>>>> old idea of free speech. BULLY FOR YOU.
>>
>> Amazing that as we cheer them on their way, they pretend we are
>> clamouring for them to stay, or begging that the take us with them! 8^o
>>
>> B^D Gob Forbid! B^D
>>
>> I will throw rose petals in their path if it makes them hurry
>> more quickly to their doom! B^D
>>
>>>>> Josef Stalin would be proud.He was an atheist, too.
>>
>> Ravin1 confessed that it was atheist regimes that terrorised
>> tortured and killed over 80,000,000 of their own people! 8^o
>>
>> # From: raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>> # Subject: Re: Anyone seen Hysteria, Abu Baker Bashir
>> # and Kelsey Bjarnyard? B^D
>> # Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:15:11 -0500
>> # Message-ID: <87ttk498t9sueojr7...@4ax.com>
>> #
>> #
>> # > raven1 wrote:
>> # >
>> # >> Even under officially atheistic regimes such as Stalin's,
>>
>> >>> He also did not permit
>>>>> anybody to argue with him
>>
>> He defined them as 'trolls', or 'Counter -revolutionaries'..
>> or 'Capitalist running Dogs' ANY LABEL they could slap on
>> someone they wanted to shoot!
>>
>> Got it? See how it works? B^p
>>
>> Now. ONCE labelled by undemocratic, unaccountable TYRANTS
>> you can't prove that you are NOT some nonsense label.
>>
>>
>>>> Debate will not be stopped,
>>
>> ..it well be re-defined according to partisan atheist prejudice as
>> 'trolling' and then:
>>
>>>> trolling/flaming/spamming will be.
>>
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAAAA
>>
>> Atheist Newspeak.
>>
>> Orwell described how they think and operate perfectly.
>>
>>>> This seems to have all the trolls worried
>>
>> B^D Oh Sure, Brer atheist, please don't run away and
>> pull the door closed on your bunker!
>>
>> Please don't ABANDON the NG I have said needed reform from the
>> moment I saw what hate filled thugs it sheltered,
>>
>> # From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>> # Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
>> # Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
>> # Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
>> #
>> # We kill theists and shit down their throats
>> #
>> # Warlord Steve
>> # BAAWA
>>
>> Not satisfied with murder, Steve favours GENOCIDE of every
>> Muslim man woman and child, just for believing in something
>> the Atheist thugs want to prohibit again, freedom of thought and belief;
>>
>> # From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
>> # Subject: Re: Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
>> # Message-ID: <8t6ve5hs41qn3a2rv...@4ax.com>
>> # Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:18 -0800
>> #
>> # On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:32 +0200, "Katrina"
>> # <blondes_g...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> #
>> # >Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
>> #
>> # It is the most foul, disgusting filth on Earth.
>> # The sooner we nuke you fuckers, the better.
>> #
>> # Warlord Steve
>> # BAAWA
>>
>>
>>
>> and now you are WILLINGLY running away and proving
>> me PROPHETIC when I promised to teach those immoral shitpigs
>> a LESSON!! B^D
>>
>> With Ravin and Hysteria left roboposting their atheist trolling
>> preventing alt.atheism being a recruitment ground for gullible
>> young minds with become a VERY part time job for me!
>>
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAA
>>
>> Ok, it's time to RESET the atheists agenda AGAIN! B^d
>> (I like to let them run along REACTING to my latest tactic,
>> then bait and switch, and after they have gone to all the
>> effort of setting up murderation, and hiring gutter trash
>> to be Murderators.. I signal my NEXT shot and watch them
>> scurry to REACT.. in ways I have already anticipated.. ;-)
>>
>> Here it comes.. the Coup de grace: B^] (oh I AM wicked ;-)
>>
>> *********************************************************
>> I am delirious with joy, because I will be able to take ALL
>> the posts I wish from your Sheltered workshop, add my rational
>> critique ;-) lashings of mockery, a 'corruption watch'
>> eviscerating all the debate crushing injustices you partisan
>> stooges will impose of a whole range of legitimate critics,
>>
>> post all that IN ALT.ATHEISM and then cross-post the lot
>> to all relevant groups (except yours of course ;-)
>>
>> Why would anyone want to talk TO the chronically SELF-
>> BLINKERED, when all I have ever done is talk ABOUT you.
>>
>> Nothing changes for me, I'm a commentator ON atheism,
>> not a debater OF atheists.. B^] ..I haven't been able to
>> find an atheist capable of sustained rational discourse
>> in over TWO YEARS.. they all end up snipping, lying
>> and RUNNING AWAY... BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAA
>>
>> Just like you are all doing NOW!
>>
>> Whooooooo HOOOOOOOOOOOO! B^D
>>
>> This is the SWEETEST VICTORY of them all.
>>
>> > for the obvious reason.
>>
>> Obvious to me, I have the advantage of strategic thinking,
>> you have to be told what's happening AFTER the event!
>>
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAA
>>
>> NewsFlash:
>>
>> EVERY ATHEIST REGIME WAS INFESTED WITH REACTIONARIES
>>
>> You dumb fucks are NO DIFFERENT! B^D
>>
>>
>> My thanks to all you atheist Kook Suckers
>> for making this SO EASY for me! B^]
>>
>>
>>> The anti-atheist trolls professed that their goal was to drive
>>> atheists from a.a.
>>
>> Golly, your sure proved THEM RIGHT! B^D
>>
>> > But now that atheists might leave voluntarily
>>
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAA
>>
>> I don't know which is funnier, that after all
>> your BITCHING and MOANING about how you HAVE to go because
>> the NOISE of people laughing at atheists, ridiculing
>> and mocking you is DRIVING you away, you now pretend
>> you are 'leaving voluntarily' BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAAAAA
>>
>> or the sudden appearance of 'might' in front of 'leave'!
>>
>>
>> Second thoughts, eh you stupid POSTURING twats!
>>
>> You threatened to take you ball and go home and when
>> the only reaction was loads of laughter and cries of
>> 'don't let the door bang your arse on the way out', B^D
>>
>> Ravin suddenly says he's staying, Hysteria joins the
>> defectors from the swinging in the wind atheist Exodus and
>> now Moses suddenly declares that the wilderness is
>> not really a land of Milk and Honey and perhaps life as
>> a pathetic captive in Egypt is not so bad after all!
>>
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAA
>>
>> Every time you post I end up with my sides splitting
>> from laughter.
>>
>>> the
>> atheist
>>> trolls are panicking.
>>
>> B^D Hysteria has had a psychic break, thinks she doesn't exist,
>> (when really it's just that people ignore the boring bitch B^)
>> and keeps chanting some repetitive Troll Mantra to ward off
>> reality! B^D
>>
>> Ravin1 rushed to help her, which naturally just made things worse!
>>
>>> I don't wonder why.
>>
>> No one does, atheists are all show and no SUBSTANCE.
>>
>> So their works usually come to nothing.
>>
>>> Hilarious.
>>
>> Just so, chief Clown, just so! B^D

No wonder the atheists have abandoned alt.atheism and retreated
to an asylum, they are constantly eviscerated in public! B^D

All the atheist stalkers and TROLLS have left is lies and slander;

> Quit sending me e-mail,
>
> pervert.

Dear pervert, why would anyone send you emails when they
can humiliate you in public, like this. B^]







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fasgnadh

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May 30, 2012, 9:34:22 AM5/30/12
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Jeanne Douglas demonstrates what a gullible atheist prat she is:
> It's my belief

Without evidence.. typical atheist moron and hypocrite ! B^]


> that if anybody sends me an unwanted email, then I'm
> going to post it here.
>
> So, I think you should post his email(s).

No he can't you stupid senile old crone, he's lying through his arse.
and you are swallowing his shit without question!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
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