What scientific and/or objective evidence do creationists have that
there was such a flood? Well they have their mindless chant that
there was a flood - and that's it!
Budikka
> Ex-creationist Glenn Morton has a page here:
> http://home.entouch.net/dmd/geo.htm
> which lists almost 50 items which disprove creationist claims, mainly
> about the fictional global flood.
>
Why should creationist claims be disproven
when they cannot be proven?
The ball is in their court.........
>Budikka666 <budi...@netscape.net> wrote in news:a3c18590-9322-4ee7-952c-
>ad556a...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Ex-creationist Glenn Morton has a page here:
>> http://home.entouch.net/dmd/geo.htm
>> which lists almost 50 items which disprove creationist claims, mainly
>> about the fictional global flood.
>>
>
>
> Why should creationist claims be disproven
>when they cannot be proven?
Some of their claims are so reality-challenged that they were disproven
merely because scientists made discoveries, particularly in the 19th
Century. Creationism relies on ignorance.
>
> The ball is in their court.........
They'll never admit it. That would require them to admit that they are
lying when they teach their false doctrines.
> Ex-creationist Glenn Morton has a page here:
How much room did Noah make on his ark for all the
dragons the Bible keeps talking about?
Jeremiah 10:22
Behold, the noise of the bruit is come, and a great
commotion out of the north country, to make the cities
of Judah desolate, and a den of dragons.
Jeremiah 14:6
And the wild asses did stand in the high places, they
snuffed up the wind like dragons; their eyes did fail,
because there was no grass.
Jeremiah 49:33
And Hazor shall be a dwelling for dragons, and a desolation
for ever: there shall no man abide there, nor any son of man
dwell in it.
Jeremiah 51:37
And Babylon shall become heaps, a dwellingplace for dragons,
an astonishment, and an hissing, without an inhabitant.
Micah 1:8
Therefore I will wail and howl, I will go stripped and naked:
I will make a wailing like the dragons, and mourning as the owls.
Malachi 1:3
And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste
for the dragons of the wilderness.
Deuteronomy 32:33
Their wine is the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom
of asps.
Job 30:29
I am a brother to dragons, and a companion to owls.
Psalm 44:19
Though thou hast sore broken us in the place of dragons,
and covered us with the shadow of death.
Psalm 74:13
Thou didst divide the sea by thy strength: thou brakest the
heads of the dragons in the waters.
Psalm 148:7
Praise the LORD from the earth, ye dragons, and all deeps:
Isaiah 13:22
And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate
houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is
near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.
Isaiah 34:13
And thorns shall come up in her palaces, nettles and brambles
in the fortresses thereof: and it shall be an habitation of
dragons, and a court for owls.
You just made a definitive statement of "NO FLOOD". Ok, big mouth, let's see
your evidence. And this time, no plagiarism, please.
The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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>Budikka666 <budi...@netscape.net> wrote in news:a3c18590-9322-4ee7-952c-
>ad556a...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Ex-creationist Glenn Morton has a page here:
>> http://home.entouch.net/dmd/geo.htm
>> which lists almost 50 items which disprove creationist claims, mainly
>> about the fictional global flood.
>>
>
>
> Why should creationist claims be disproven
>when they cannot be proven?
>
> The ball is in their court.........
Your queen of the leather teddies just made a solid statement. Challenge her to
show her ass.
You don't deserve to see her ass, Dork.
And never will.
PDW
this fellow demonstrates his own incompetence in that he can only look to the gods of
Atheism to prove his point for him.
the rainbow is the " objective evidence " but you wouldn't know that because you need
Glenn Morton to prove your point for you and you're obviously also incompetent in the Holy
Scriptures.
stick with the Evolution cartoons on Natgeo channel.
>On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:03:21 -0800 (PST), Budikka666 <budi...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>>Ex-creationist Glenn Morton has a page here:
>>http://home.entouch.net/dmd/geo.htm
>>which lists almost 50 items which disprove creationist claims, mainly
>>about the fictional global flood.
>>
>>What scientific and/or objective evidence do creationists
>>have that there was such a flood? Well they have their
>>mindless chant that there was a flood - and that's it!
>>
>>Budikka
>
>this fellow demonstrates his own incompetence in that he
>can only look to the gods of Atheism to prove his point
>for him.
What a fucking moron.
>the rainbow is the " objective evidence " but you wouldn't
>know that because you need Glenn Morton to prove your point
>for you and you're obviously also incompetent in the Holy
>Scriptures.
A liar as well as an idiot.
>stick with the Evolution cartoons on Natgeo channel.
Get an education and stop being so in-your-face stupid.
>On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:03:21 -0800 (PST), Budikka666 <budi...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>>Ex-creationist Glenn Morton has a page here:
>>http://home.entouch.net/dmd/geo.htm
>>which lists almost 50 items which disprove creationist claims, mainly
>>about the fictional global flood.
>>
>>What scientific and/or objective evidence do creationists have that
>>there was such a flood? Well they have their mindless chant that
>>there was a flood - and that's it!
>>
>>Budikka
>
>this fellow demonstrates his own incompetence in that he can only look to the gods of
>Atheism to prove his point for him.
>
>the rainbow is the " objective evidence "
So, you consider just-so stories at the end of another story that is
known to be wrong a valid source. Why?
>but you wouldn't know that because you need
>Glenn Morton to prove your point for you and you're obviously also incompetent in the Holy
>Scriptures.
>
>stick with the Evolution cartoons on Natgeo channel.
You worship your ignorance.
***The proves of the Flood is most easy.When you are unable to discern
and having bad knowledge,immature,how can you observed and reason like
adults?
***When you a US dollar Bill,do you know was written there?GOD.
Now,what is it so difficult to infer,a God who has created the
Universe,a belief by American,that He can do miracles,would to see the
Flood as impossible by inference?
***You are the real ignoramus.
***When have shown your ability to argue decently and properly?WHEN???
Sorry, Frankie Lee, but I won't be entertaining you for a while. Bye.
> ***When you a US dollar Bill,do you know was written there?GOD.
I think some words fell out of that hole in your head
before you finished writing your sentence. Next time you
hear that dull "plink!" noise of the words hitting the
table top: stop, collect your thoughts, then proceed.
--
-----------
Brian E. Clark
He just posted a link with several pieces of evidence against the
flood, did you miss that idiot?
Then post some. I won't believe you on just your say-so.
But you don't have any, do you?
While you're at it, explain how the supposed Noah managed to collect
Penguins and Polar Bears and return them to their habitat after the flood.
> When you are unable to discern
> and having bad knowledge,immature,how can you observed and reason like
> adults?
I can smell your bullshit from here, Frankie.
--
Smiler
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
All gods are bespoke. They're all made to
perfectly fit the prejudices of their believer
You have to pity puke, though.
The only times he has ever been anywhere near a female ass is by the donkey
enclosure at the zoo and when his mother 'gave birth' to him and forgot to
flush.
No. It was impossible by science and common sense.
Where? All she claimed is that you have no evidence *for* it and that all
your claims so far, have been disproven.
> Ok, big mouth,
> let's see your evidence. And this time, no plagiarism, please.
Ok, big mouth puke, let's see your evidence for the flood. And this time,
no beliefs, opinions or 'holy' book quotes, please.
What 'thoughts'?
Except the 'fellow' is female. You'd have known that if you knew who the
original Buddika was.
And except for the fact that atheists do not believe in any gods, no matter
what you claim.
>
> the rainbow is the " objective evidence "
Of course it is. It's objective evidence for the existence of leprechauns.
Where else would they bury their crock of gold if there was no rainbow's
end?
Oh, the god written by US treasury in their bills is proof?
Your brain must be full of shit when you yourslef can write the word.
Why do C Lee need to argue with a loon decently when he has no brain?
Stop drinking while posting on usenet.
You, OTOH, should stick to religion. Let adults deal with science,
history, archeology, biology, astronomy, etc., while you dutifully go to
church and pray to some idols.
Olrik
No, Free Lunch was right : you value your abject ignorance like it's
some sort of badge of honour. It's not. It makes you weak & deranged.
>Ex-creationist Glenn Morton has a page here:
>http://home.entouch.net/dmd/geo.htm
>which lists almost 50 items which disprove creationist claims, mainly
>about the fictional global flood.
>
>What scientific and/or objective evidence do creationists have that
>there was such a flood? Well they have their mindless chant that
>there was a flood - and that's it!
>
>Budikka
this fellow demonstrates his own incompetence in that he can only look to the gods of
Atheism to prove his point for him.
the rainbow is the " objective evidence " but you wouldn't know that because you need
> On Nov 9, 1:38�am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:57:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman
>> <noem...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>> >Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in
>> >news:a3c18590-9322-4ee7-952c
> -
>> >ad556af87...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >> Ex-creationist Glenn Morton has a page here:
>> >>http://home.entouch.net/dmd/geo.htm
>> >> which lists almost 50 items which disprove creationist claims,
>> >> mainly about the fictional global flood.
>>
>> > � �Why should creationist claims be disproven
>> >when they cannot be proven?
>>
>> > � �The ball is in their court.........
>>
>> Your queen of the leather teddies just made a solid statement.
>> �Challen
> ge her to
>> show her ass.
> So, you dislike truth?
> But let me ask you one question: "How did Noah go round the world
> capturing those animals?" and "How long did he take?"
Also: How could the water recede if the whole
world was covered in water?
> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:03:21 -0800 (PST), Budikka666
> <budi...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>>Ex-creationist Glenn Morton has a page here:
>>http://home.entouch.net/dmd/geo.htm
>>which lists almost 50 items which disprove creationist claims, mainly
>>about the fictional global flood.
>>
>>What scientific and/or objective evidence do creationists have that
>>there was such a flood? Well they have their mindless chant that
>>there was a flood - and that's it!
>>
>>Budikka
>
> this fellow demonstrates his own incompetence in that he can only look
> to the gods of Atheism to prove his point for him.
>
> the rainbow is the " objective evidence "
"objective evidence" - of what?
Why is the Rainbow objective evidence of Yahweh? Just because you say so?
How do you know it's not objective evidence of Nuwa sealing the sky?
Or objective evidence of Indra?
Or objective evidence of Asgard?
Or objective evidence of the existence of leprechauns?
>
> stick with the Evolution cartoons on Natgeo channel.
Clearly even they are above your level of understanding.
>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:03:21 -0800 (PST), Budikka666
>> <budi...@netscape.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Ex-creationist Glenn Morton has a page here:
>>>http://home.entouch.net/dmd/geo.htm
>>>which lists almost 50 items which disprove creationist claims, mainly
>>>about the fictional global flood.
>>>
>>>What scientific and/or objective evidence do creationists have that
>>>there was such a flood? Well they have their mindless chant that
>>>there was a flood - and that's it!
>>>
>>>Budikka
>>
>> this fellow demonstrates his own incompetence in that he can only look
>> to the gods of Atheism to prove his point for him.
>>
>> the rainbow is the " objective evidence "
> "objective evidence" - of what?
It is object evidence that savages didn't understand the refraction of
light and made a bullshit story that is believed to this day even
though educated people know about refraction.
The gods of atheism? WOW - that is SO fucked up!
>
> the rainbow is the " objective evidence " but you wouldn't know that
> because you need
> Glenn Morton to prove your point for you and you're obviously also
> incompetent in the Holy
> Scriptures.
How does anyone become competent with a bunch of deranged, delusional, and
false fairy tales?
The science behind the "Rainbow" was explained to us in grade school.
Obviously you haven't reached that level yet.
>
> stick with the Evolution cartoons on Natgeo channel.
Sure beats the psycho babble from your sick book.
Yeah, the rainbow is evidence of rainbows. But how about the flood?
>
> stick with the Evolution cartoons on Natgeo channel.
--
Hannele, A.A #2211
It is indeed. Objective evidence of the exisence
of Asgard, the rainbow being the bridge to
Asgard which only the gods and those killed
in battle may cross.
Of course, nothing lasts forever, and the rainbow
will be destroyed during Ragnarok.
Haiku Jones
You tell us, ignorant one.
PDW
YOU never have, liar.
PDW
Someone pulled the plug out :-)
It's very revealing that you describe a channel of scientific subjects
as "cartoons." Obviously, you value ignorance over knowledge. That's
sad.
>On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:03:21 -0800 (PST), Budikka666 <budi...@netscape.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Ex-creationist Glenn Morton has a page here:
>>http://home.entouch.net/dmd/geo.htm
>>which lists almost 50 items which disprove creationist claims, mainly
>>about the fictional global flood.
>
>>What scientific and/or objective evidence do creationists have that
>>there was such a flood? Well they have their mindless chant that
>>there was a flood - and that's it!
>
>You just made a definitive statement of "NO FLOOD". Ok, big mouth, let's see
>your evidence. And this time, no plagiarism, please.
>
There is far too much genetic diversity across the globe for there to
have been a world-wide flood in the last hundreds of millions of
years. The match of biogeographic distribution and fossil placement
shows there has not been a global flood for hundreds of millions of
years.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
You have yet to prove that this god thing existed, much less caused a
flood.
???????
And, over the many years that this lie has been floating around .........
how many times have YOU offered valid evidence (or even ANSWERED posts
asking for evidence)?
You have no right to demand anything from others, when you totally ignore
your responsibility to support YOUR claims!
Seriously. Frankie-stein drank mega amounts of the kool-aid.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net
Oh, horsepucky. The rainbow is a known phenomenon. We know what
causes them, and it ain't god-magic. You have no evidence that "the
rainbow" is evidence for your world-wide flood myth, and you know it.
Using your logic, I can point to the San Juan River as proof that
Navajo mythology is "true." I doubt you buy that, but you hope we'll
be so stupid as to buy into your assertion that the rainbow is somehow
supernatural in origin and therefor proves Noah's flood.
> Oh, horsepucky. The rainbow is a known phenomenon. We know what
> causes them, and it ain't god-magic. You have no evidence that "the
> rainbow" is evidence for your world-wide flood myth, and you know it.
Well, wait a minute, I think you need to consider the wider
theological
implications.
The rainbow in the sky is God's covenant that He will never again
destroy mankind with flood.
The rainbow you see over a waterfall is God's covenant that He
will never will never destroy mankind by pushing them over
the falls in seven billion barrels.
The rainbow you see when using your garden hose is God's
covenant that He will never destroy mankind with...um, with
moles. Giant moles. No giant moles.
And the rainbow you see over your dinner plate is God's
way of telling you you picked the wrong mushrooms.
Haiku Jones
> Oh, horsepucky. The rainbow is a known phenomenon. We know what
> causes them, and it ain't god-magic. You have no evidence that "the
> rainbow" is evidence for your world-wide flood myth, and you know it.
He doesn't. It's another fable in his bable and fits with his level of
education
It would appear that cretin science raises its ignorant head again.
> On Nov 10, 12:38 pm, SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Nov 8, 5:39 pm, old man joe <ne...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:03:21 -0800 (PST), Budikka666
>> <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
>>>> Ex-creationist Glenn Morton has a page here:
>>>> http://home.entouch.net/dmd/geo.htm
>>>> which lists almost 50 items which disprove creationist claims, mainly
>>>> about the fictional global flood.
>>
>>>> What scientific and/or objective evidence do creationists have that
>>>> there was such a flood? Well they have their mindless chant that
>>>> there was a flood - and that's it!
>>
>>
>>> this fellow demonstrates his own incompetence in that he can only
>> look to the gods of
>>> Atheism to prove his point for him.
>>
>>> the rainbow is the " objective evidence " but you wouldn't know that
>> because you need
>>> Glenn Morton to prove your point for you and you're obviously also
>> incompetent in the Holy
>>> Scriptures.
>>
>> Oh, horsepucky. The rainbow is a known phenomenon. We know what
>> causes them, and it ain't god-magic. You have no evidence that "the
>> rainbow" is evidence for your world-wide flood myth, and you know it.
>
> Well, wait a minute, I think you need to consider the wider
> theological
> implications.
>
> The rainbow in the sky is God's covenant that He will never again
> destroy mankind with flood.
>
> The rainbow you see over a waterfall is God's covenant that He
> will never will never destroy mankind by pushing them over
> the falls in seven billion barrels.
>
> The rainbow you see when using your garden hose is God's
> covenant that He will never destroy mankind with...um, with
> moles. Giant moles. No giant moles.
>
> And the rainbow you see over your dinner plate is God's
> way of telling you you picked the wrong mushrooms.
>
Or even the right ones. ;-)
>>
>> Using your logic, I can point to the San Juan River as proof that
>> Navajo mythology is "true." I doubt you buy that, but you hope we'll
>> be so stupid as to buy into your assertion that the rainbow is somehow
>> supernatural in origin and therefor proves Noah's flood.
--
Hannele, A.A #2211
> > I think we are dealing with one who is the "most deluded", far more
> > than duke.
>
> Seriously. Frankie-stein drank mega amounts of the kool-aid.
1 part cult Kool-Aid
1 part crystal meth
1 part peyote
Mix all ingredients into 1 cup Liquid Plumber. Drink until
you believe dinosaurs walked with men.
Noooo.... with HIS garden hose ...... which, in case you didn't know, is
larger than YOUR garden hose!
and 24 tv hours with Ken Ham, Pat Robertson, Sarah Palin, Father Guido
Sarducci, the pope, and any one of the thousands of pedophile priests.
and a whole day at "geezus camp".
I just realized that these people are NOT grasping at straws to defend their
(cough ... cough) religious beliefs;
They are all grasping for stupidity.
For some reason, one of these just isn't right:
>and 24 tv hours with Ken Ham, Pat Robertson, Sarah Palin, Father Guido
>Sarducci, the pope, and any one of the thousands of pedophile priests.
>and a whole day at "geezus camp".
Though he is the only one with a sense of humor.
Maybe we should quote somebody who Earl should have some respect for.
"Do I believe the flood story literal - no. A story from long ago about how
God
punishes evil and those that stand against him. Equally brought out in the
golden calf story and Moses."
"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:e00ta0h2c8v8nmtjc...@4ax.com...
On Fri, 21 May 2004 11:12:16 -0700,
Sad little man.
Double horse pucky. The idiot should read the bible and see what it
actually says.
9:13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant
between me and the earth. 9:14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a
cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
A RAIN bow in not in the clouds and is not seen everytime god brings a cloud
over the earth.
It only happenes under certain conditions and if you are in the proper
position.
It also shows that this god bears no relationship to the current concept of
a god.
9:16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may
remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of
all flesh that is upon the earth.
Does a god really have to tie a string around it's finger to remember such a
major promise.
Sounds like Reagon and his "who can remember" excuses. (First used when he
was under criminal investigation while active in teh movies industry
unions.)
I think we are facing more and more loony views from duke, Oldmanjoe,
and Frankstein Lee.
When age catches up, their reasoning seems to be wondering into
insanity.
Can you imagine a hard core right winger trying to, mentally, keep up with
Guido?
Why read a totally fabricated pile of delusional bull shit?
That water vaper refracts light along a limited color band. Nothing
more than that.
>Ex-creationist Glenn Morton has a page here:
>http://home.entouch.net/dmd/geo.htm
>which lists almost 50 items which disprove creationist claims, mainly
>about the fictional global flood.
>
>What scientific and/or objective evidence do creationists have that
>there was such a flood? Well they have their mindless chant that
>there was a flood - and that's it!
Nobody really knows if there was a flood or not in the 4.5 billion year history
of the earth.
Please, bud the dud, no plagiarism this time.
The Dukester, American-American
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>Budikka666 <budi...@netscape.net> wrote in news:a3c18590-9322-4ee7-952c-
>ad556a...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Ex-creationist Glenn Morton has a page here:
>> http://home.entouch.net/dmd/geo.htm
>> which lists almost 50 items which disprove creationist claims, mainly
>> about the fictional global flood.
>>
>> What scientific and/or objective evidence do creationists have that
>> there was such a flood? Well they have their mindless chant that
>> there was a flood - and that's it!
> How much room did Noah make on his ark for all the
>dragons the Bible keeps talking about?
None, there were no dragons.
> None, there were no dragons.
>
The Komodo would dispute that bit of bible bable.
If you're going to lie at least look up the facts before you attempt
to distort them
> Can you imagine a hard core right winger trying to, mentally, keep up with
> Guido?
I'd love to see such a person sandwiched between Father
Guido and Dave Allen.
> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:02:03 -0600, Mitchell Holman
> <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Budikka666 <budi...@netscape.net> wrote in
>>news:a3c18590-9322-4ee7-952c-
>>ad556a...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> Ex-creationist Glenn Morton has a page here:
>>> http://home.entouch.net/dmd/geo.htm
>>> which lists almost 50 items which disprove creationist claims,
>>> mainly about the fictional global flood.
>>>
>>> What scientific and/or objective evidence do creationists have that
>>> there was such a flood? Well they have their mindless chant that
>>> there was a flood - and that's it!
>
>> How much room did Noah make on his ark for all the
>>dragons the Bible keeps talking about?
>
> None, there were no dragons.
Your Bible talks about dragons at length,
and AFTER the flood.
Ergo, they had to have been passengers on
Noah's Ark to have survived.
Haven't you even read your Bible?
How do you explain this?
Isaiah 35:7
And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land
springs of water: in the habitation of dragons, where each lay,
shall be grass with reeds and rushes.
http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-dragons.html
Simple enough for you, Hollowman?
--------------------------
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hardly matters as far as sunburn goes. Just
like every other outdoor activity, use common
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that Couples, where nudist singles are welcomed, not
excluded. Try Club Orient, or Hedonism, or Diamond
Eden."
--------------- Michell Holoman, 2/12/99
Geologists know that there is no evidence of a worldwide flood.
That's why we call them 'suckers' for believing that nonsense.
Dave Allen, if you're referring to the atheist Irish comedian and not
someone else, is dead and buried.
Oh! I see what you mean......
http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-dragons.html
Simple? Yes.
Factual or meaningful? Absolutely NOT!
ANY invented, religious based web site that uses Ken Ham as a part of their
resources Cannot be considered either truthful or sane!
(No - I'm not saying the others are better - but with Ham - extreme lies,
distortions, and egomaniacal proclamations are guaranteed.)
>
> "Kurt Nicklas" <nick...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:1877c1b7-5a8a-446c...@37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com..
From the above cite: "The Bible is not
teaching that dragons ever truly existed."
Which, of course, is just a bald-faced denial
of what the bible says. Typical fundy denial.
> ANY invented, religious based web site that uses Ken Ham as a part of
> their resources Cannot be considered either truthful or sane!
> (No - I'm not saying the others are better - but with Ham - extreme
> lies, distortions, and egomaniacal proclamations are guaranteed.)
Bingo.
Like most of the other loonies he doesn't understand that there is
nothing to argue.
The imbecile came here and spewed a mixture of bullshit, stupidity and
nastiness, insisting that we give it sufficient credibility to argue
against.
We have been trying without success to educate and correct him.
And when that failed, he got treated like the aggressively stupid
idiot he told us he is.
Christians coming to atheists to "debate" evolution, abiogenesis,
cosmology and other origins related sciences have only themselves to
blame - it's no different than going to a railroad newsgroup and
insisting they "debate" the stalk theory of reproduction. Or a bowling
group insisting they "discuss" the flat Earth.
And then accusing us of being unable to "argue decently and properly".
Just who the fuck does he think he is?
Their first mistake is imagining evolution and other sciences they
don't like are anything to do with atheism or vice versa. When it is
really part of the knowledge base of anybody with an education or even
an interest in such matters, including non-fundamentalist theists who
outnumber atheists in the USA by almost ten to one.
They have been corrected so many times that repeating it is an
outright lie,
Their second is in insisting on their own meanings of the words used
to explain things, and their insistence that we start from their
position even though they come looking for us. They use dumbed down
vocabulary, meanings and logic which actively obstructs communication.
Their third is that they can't think outside the box. It's not just
that they have no understanding of the real world but it has turned
them into sociopaths with no understanding of people either. So they
invent all sorts of personal nastiness as "reasons" they get treated
like idiots. Like the loony who insists there is an "anti-Christ
movement", ignores explanations and invents further falsehoods to
"justify" it.
>On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:03:21 -0800 (PST), Budikka666 <budi...@netscape.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Ex-creationist Glenn Morton has a page here:
>>http://home.entouch.net/dmd/geo.htm
>>which lists almost 50 items which disprove creationist claims, mainly
>>about the fictional global flood.
>>
>>What scientific and/or objective evidence do creationists have that
>>there was such a flood? Well they have their mindless chant that
>>there was a flood - and that's it!
>
>Nobody really knows if there was a flood or not in the 4.5 billion year history
>of the earth.
By "flood" do you mean a flood of water that covered the entire
surface and killed all surface animal life? Yes, we do know there has
not been such a thing. You hand waving and wishing does not change
things.
>Please, bud the dud, no plagiarism this time.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
Why dont you do a google for the Noah Flood evidence , then youll have
it. Its readily available , but how hardened is your heart toward
the evidence for creationism, The Bible being true, and the Creator
of the Cosmos ? If its hardened, then there wont be any evidence
that you will look at, consider, or even read. Right ?!
months:
July 12th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/lldf56
August 16th,2009: http://tinyurl.com/kjjmn4
September 10th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/oasqn8
October 3rd, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ybvtw53
November 9th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yjlmbrf
End of you. Case closed.
Budikka
Any time you want to bring on your objective/scientific evidence for
this god, this creation or this flood, post it right here and I'll go
toe-to toe with you.
Otherwise you're nothing but a worthless windbag, just like all the
other vacuous, cowardly, ignorant creationists who post their pathetic
fairy tales in the atheist news groups, aren't you?
Budikka
We did. There isn't any.
Unmet challenge #2
Provide *positive*, *scientific* evidence *for* a creation. Not Bible
quotes. Not quotes from creationists or atheists or evolutionists.
Not divine revelation. Not juvenile unsupported ignorant assertions.
Not chants of 'no it isn't!'. Not counter challenges when you haven't
even met ours, but *positive*, *scientific* evidence *for* a creation.
Unmet challenge #3
Provide evidence that shows how DNA is the work of a creator. Show us
this evidence and explain how it demonstrates a creator.
Unmet challenge #4
Support claims that bacteria have never arisen from anything other
than bacteria/life has never arisen from anything but life.
Unmet challenge #5
Provide evidence in support of the creationist claim that information
cannot be added to a genome.
Unmet challenge #6
Define scientifically what the "genetic boundaries" are: specifically
what the mechanism is which (according to creationist claims) prevents
one species from evolving into another species over time.
Unmet Challenge #7
Provide your scientific evidence (as opposed to your LYING,
unsupported bullshit, which has been refuted repeatedly) to support
your creationist claim that life cannot arise from organic chemistry,
when scientists have repeatedly demonstrated that the truth is quite
to the contrary
Unmet Challenge #8
Prove that there's a god out there waiting to judge me when I die.
Otherwise you and your creationist fundie ilk are nothing but pathetic
LIARS and FRAUDS.
Unmet Challenge #9
Prove that we have a soul. Demonstrate scientifically where it is and
what its purpose is.
Unmet Challenge #10
Prove that this fictional Jesus isn't fictional and that he literally
died and that he came back to life and went to Heaven.
Here's a list of the strongest advocates of creation on Usenet WHO
HAVE FLED one or more of these challenges:
Chicken Adman
Chicken Andrew
Chicken Brother Ted
Chicken Codebreaker
Chicken Curtjester1
Chicken Duke
Chicken Gabriel
Chicken I'll Be Bauck
Chicken Pastor Dave
Let's face it, NOT A SINGLE creationist on Usenet has been able to
find the guts to face these challenges. This fictional god of theirs
has deserted every one of these liars and frauds That's what a sad,
pathetic and vacuous bunch of lousy, low-life scum they are.
Case closed. End of story.
Budikka
There is no scientific evidence for the flood of Noah. If you think
there is then it is up to you to provide it, not give some asshole
comment as to do a Google search.
Why does the imbecile expect us to do his work for him?
But we don't need to look for evidence - it's an impossibility. Even
if it were anything more than part of the myths and legends of a long
gone culture.
Puke has claimed this for years. The problem is he has claimed it but
hasn't offered any evidence that it is so. You know something else, he
never will. Puke is nothing more than a dickhead looking for a
convenient hole.
If it happened your god changed all the rules, caused the flood, hid the
evidence and then reinstated the rules.
*****There is no evidence to support "Noah's Flood"!
*****All those web sites offer is ignorant assertions that have no basis in
fact!0
*****There, also, is no evidence of a creator ....... specifically, the one
in your book of babble.
Your picture will be the first to appear!
Quote the Raven1: "Seriously, I've been on Usenet for 13 years, and
you have to be the
dumbest, most ignorant person I've run across in that time"
Correction. Everybody knows there were floods during the earth's
history. Fundy problem is there is no evidence of a "world wide
flood". Local floods happen every year.
Harry K
Well, you're the one that keeps pushing it off on the partial pressure of air.
That Raven hasn't been around much. karl from TO comes to mind as well as a
few who shall remain nameless.
Even today it's hard not to grant that award to Suzanne.
why aren't you answering the charge of how elements never alive came to life all by
themselves instead of trying to make yourself look good by name calling ?
we all notice how you changed the subject by saying it's up to Creationist's to prove God
to you, an Atheist because the Lord God passed you by for anything better, but you were
the one who posted first claiming your idea of science produced life and not God.
so instead of evading the subject produce an scientific answer as to how elements that are
not alive came to life all by themselves out of absolute sterility. don't call names but
answer what you started instead.
and why do you say that Creationist's post our garbage to your atheist groups all the
while you post your garbage to alt.creationism ? hypocritical double standards, huh.
And it's *bogus*. Those arguments have no scientific foundation.
We're familiar with them, Sparky; some fundy idjit or other comes in
here every other day hawking these "arguments."
> but how hardened is your heart toward
> the evidence for creationism, The Bible being true, and the Creator
> of the Cosmos ?
I Grew up a christian fundamentalist and a born-again christian. Then
I got a real education and learned what evidence is and how science
works.
I suggest you do the same. Fundy propaganda rots the brain.
> If its hardened, then there wont be any evidence
> that you will look at, consider, or even read. Right ?!
There is no evidence to consider. Every argument the fundies have
come up with has been solidly refuted. But will the creationists go
to the trouble to learn some science and actually *understand* why
creationism is bogus?
No, they won't, because they require Genesis to be factual so that
their recipe for everlasting life doesn't fall apart.
Brenda "Been There" Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net
>On Nov 12, 11:10�pm, "PepsiFr...@teranews.com"
><bobsyoung...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:6b0a58a3-3c00-4c62...@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 8, 8:03 am, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Ex-creationist Glenn Morton has a page
>> > here:http://home.entouch.net/dmd/geo.htm
>> > which lists almost 50 items which disprove creationist claims, mainly
>> > about the fictional global flood.
>>
>> > What scientific and/or objective evidence do creationists have that
>> > there was such a flood? Well they have their mindless chant that
>> > there was a flood - and that's it!
>>
>> > Budikka
>>
>> Why dont you do a google for the Noah Flood evidence , then youll have
>> it. � Its readily available �,
>And it's *bogus*. Those arguments have no scientific foundation.
>We're familiar with them, Sparky; some fundy idjit or other comes in
>here every other day hawking these "arguments."
But can you support the flood existence one way or the other. The answer is no,
no you can't. NEITHER option is supportable.
>> but �how hardened is your heart toward
>> the evidence for creationism, The Bible being true, and �the Creator
>> of the Cosmos ?
>I Grew up a christian fundamentalist and a born-again christian. Then
>I got a real education and learned what evidence is and how science
>works.
And yet you still can't establish the truth of the flood one way or the other.
>There is no evidence to consider. Every argument the fundies have
>come up with has been solidly refuted.
No more so that your own position.
> But will the creationists go
>to the trouble to learn some science and actually *understand* why
>creationism is bogus?
Can you define "creationism" as you think it applies?
>No, they won't, because they require Genesis to be factual so that
>their recipe for everlasting life doesn't fall apart.
Suppose Genesis is factual. BTW, Gen 12-50 does have a real-man basis.
>
>Brenda "Been There" Nelson, A.A.#34
>BAAWA Knight
>EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
>skyeyes nine at cox dot net
The Dukester, American-American
Because those questions have already been answered scientifically
beyond a reaosnable doubt. Quite clearly you're the ignoramus I
predicted you would be, otherwise you;d know this.
The real question here is why are YOU RUNNING AWAY from the the
perfectly reasonable questions I asked of you, and hiding behind dumb
ignorant questions that have long been answered and that only ill-
educated windbags ask any more?
And why have you farmed this out to ten news groups from the original
three in which I posted the challenge to you? Is it because you're
every bit the vacuous coward I predicted, and now you're desperately
begging for help from anyone who'll volunteer?
Just how pathetic are you? Old Man Joke is right. LoL!
Quite obviously you're *exactly* the cowardly, vacuous windbag I
predicted you'd be.
Budikka
Let's count them:
1. http://tinyurl.com/4dyok
2. http://tinyurl.com/664yu
3. http://tinyurl.com/apenc
And what was your response, Chick? Oh yes, **YOU RAN AWAY** and
started lying that you kicked my ass, but every time anyone asked you
for **EVIDENCE** for this fictional ass-kicking, what was your
response, Duck-Egg? Oh yes, **you came up with your usual big fat
duck-egg and then YOU RAN AWAY**!
And where was it I kicked your stupid, ignorant ass and ran rings
around you on scriptures? Oh yes:
http://tinyurl.com/3z47u
And what was your response, Duck-Egg? Oh yes, **you came up with your
usual big fat duck-egg and then YOU RAN AWAY**!
And where was it that I exposed your pathetic little cheap-ass
plagiarism LIE? Oh, here it is:
http://tinyurl.com/ablwm
And what was your response, Duck-Egg? Oh yes, **you came up with your
usual big fat duck-egg and then YOU RAN AWAY**!
And where was it that I exposed 16 of your lies in a simple list that
even you could grasp? Oh yes, here it is:
http://tinyurl.com/5zlzx
And what was your response, Duck-Egg? Did you refute the lies? No!
Did you even attempt a rebuttal of even one lie? No! What *did* you
do, Duck-Egg? Oh yes, **you came up with your usual big fat duck-egg
and then YOU RAN AWAY**!
And what happened, Duck-Egg when you demanded I start a thread on the
subject line of God, and I did precisely what you asked? Oh yes,
**YOU RAN AWAY OVER ONE HUNDRED TIMES (AND COUNTING) FROM THE VERY
CHALLENGE YOU BEGGED ME FOR**.
Sure we can, floods leave evidence and there is NO evidence that the
ENTIRE PLANET was flooded. If you throw out the lack of physical
evidence, you still have the nagging problem of little things like the
uninterrupted history of long lived civilizations, like the Chinese.
Want to try again?
Frankie Lee wrote:
> On Nov 9, 1:59 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:57:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman
> > <noem...@comcast.net> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
> >
> > >Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in news:a3c18590-9322-4ee7-952c-
> > >ad556af87...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com:
> >
> > >> Ex-creationist Glenn Morton has a page here:
> > >>http://home.entouch.net/dmd/geo.htm
> > >> which lists almost 50 items which disprove creationist claims, mainly
> > >> about the fictional global flood.
> >
> > > Why should creationist claims be disproven
> > >when they cannot be proven?
> >
> > Some of their claims are so reality-challenged that they were disproven
> > merely because scientists made discoveries, particularly in the 19th
> > Century. Creationism relies on ignorance.
> >
> >
> >
> > > The ball is in their court.........
> >
> > They'll never admit it. That would require them to admit that they are
> > lying when they teach their false doctrines.
> >
> > >> What scientific and/or objective evidence do creationists have that
> > >> there was such a flood? Well they have their mindless chant that
> > >> there was a flood - and that's it!
> >
> > >> Budikka
>
> ***The proves of the Flood is most easy.When you are unable to discern
> and having bad knowledge,immature,how can you observed and reason like
> adults?
Nice diversion Frankie
I really do have to ask you this:
"Do you have no SHAME ?"