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Sigarru  
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 More options May 27 2007, 3:58 am
From: Sigarru <Sigarr...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 00:58:02 -0700
Local: Sun, May 27 2007 3:58 am
Subject: Athena & Poseidon
ummm peress li qed nhossni nieqes minn practice fuq systems
programming hmmmmm... would poseidon & athena be available for us to
work on this summer and next year? ^0^

or else some1 will be scrapping our accounts there after this
semester? u le apparti c-cajt... nahseb some of us (including me)
wouldn't bother getting my hands dirty again on systems programming
when we'll have the chance...

Peace out


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Stefan Camilleri  
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 More options May 27 2007, 4:17 am
From: "Stefan Camilleri" <szc...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 10:17:44 +0200
Local: Sun, May 27 2007 4:17 am
Subject: Re: Athena & Poseidon

Considering that I have come across folders on athena belonging to friends
of mine who graduated back in 2000.... something makes me think that the
only way our accounts will ever really vanish from there is if some proxxmu
decides to donate a new sparc to the board of i.t., whilst poseidon is a
pretty top-notch system, so it will probably be around for eons.

...they might disable your account of course, which is a pity, I'm sure
we'll all sourly miss the late nights we spent staring at vi and typing
'ipcs' and 'ps -aA' so often that eventually we made exec automatically at
end of our program after cleanup :o)

Yet not to worry... I'm sure Joe will be very happy to give you a full blown
unix apt to do next year.. after all, lets face it, if you like real
programming, then logically, you must like swearing, be it audibly or not.

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Gigi  
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 More options May 27 2007, 4:17 am
From: Gigi <dand...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 08:17:58 -0000
Local: Sun, May 27 2007 4:17 am
Subject: Re: Athena & Poseidon
After what Athena put me through, I much prefer running Linux on my
machine...

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Sigarru  
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 More options May 27 2007, 4:40 am
From: Sigarru <Sigarr...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 01:40:09 -0700
Local: Sun, May 27 2007 4:40 am
Subject: Re: Athena & Poseidon
u le all in all nahseb it was a good run ta these 3 assignments,
obviously would have enjoyed doing them more if we had more time
availabe.... i really think systems programming should have more than
4 credits imma nsomma...

hehe insomma happy XMAS guys, enjoy the presents.... & gluck for
exams :P

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Stefan Camilleri  
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 More options May 27 2007, 5:37 am
From: "Stefan Camilleri" <szc...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 11:37:18 +0200
Local: Sun, May 27 2007 5:37 am
Subject: Re: Athena & Poseidon

preferably 60 ects hux ;o)

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Joseph Cordina  
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 More options May 27 2007, 6:16 am
From: Joseph Cordina <joseph.cord...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 10:16:45 -0000
Local: Sun, May 27 2007 6:16 am
Subject: Re: Athena & Poseidon
Well,
    this might be your last systems programming course you might ever
do. Who knows what APT will be on offer. In fact this year, there was
no sys related APT. As for athena access, I think you will have access
to your accounts as long as your university account remains valid.
Mine is still the same since the time I was a student !

Joe

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Sigarru  
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 More options May 27 2007, 6:33 am
From: Sigarru <Sigarr...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 03:33:58 -0700
Local: Sun, May 27 2007 6:33 am
Subject: Re: Athena & Poseidon
il istra mela ilu sir......

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Gigi  
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 More options May 27 2007, 7:40 am
From: Gigi <dand...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 11:40:07 -0000
Local: Sun, May 27 2007 7:40 am
Subject: Re: Athena & Poseidon
Ha nghidlek tkissirna pero this is most certainly the coolest subject
I've had so far. Making a game server... it's something I always
wanted to do. I don't know if we will ever apply such things in our
everyday work, but then again, most of the things that interest me
hold no future in Malta...

As has already been mentioned, more time (and credits) should be
allocated to sysprog. Ideally they should remove the maths,
probability and management and give it like 16 credits. :P Apparti c-
cajt, it is very evident that many subjects have more, or less,
credits than they actually should. Core Computer Science 2 is another
very obvious example.

Question: how much more work than the sysprog assignments can an APT
involve?

Another question: who decides on the APTs to be offered during a
particular year?

Btw... what needs to be done to make a computer accessible via ssh
like athena or poseidon?


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Joseph Cordina  
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 More options May 27 2007, 10:41 am
From: Joseph Cordina <joseph.cord...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 07:41:18 -0700
Local: Sun, May 27 2007 10:41 am
Subject: Re: Athena & Poseidon
Hi,
  as for the relevant importance and load for a specific unit, that is
up to the department, the board and the lecturers. As for which is
more important, that is up to the board and the department.

In terms of an APT, it would require more work for someone who has not
done any systems programming. Remember that if you had to build a game
server from scratch again it would take less than a quarter of the
time to build again. Systems Programming tends to be more about
thinking the approach that coding length. So once you know how to do
something in this area, you do it quite quickly the second time. So
the APT will just require more careful design and obviously more
research. As for who decides which APT gets offered up to the lecturer
and the departmental expectations. Also how many students take it in
the end has an effect if it gets offered.

To make a computer accessible via ssh, you need an ssh deamon
(server). They are available for all OS's for free, even for windows.
And if you want it accessible on the net, you need a public IP and an
open firewall to port 22.

Joseph Cordina

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